[!AltME] Discussion about AltME
Anyone ever seen a "Too Many Recent Servers" error when attempting to start a world? And is the limit 5 or 3 worlds running on a single PC?
Altme has always struggled to show me the latest messages in some groups...That's the reason why some people have used "." a lot to force a group-specific resync. I've just noticed some red groups that have updated themselves for post in March this year and December last year. I guess that's good that they arrived without further prodding from me. But apologies if you're still awaiting some replies from me: I may never have seen yiur post.
I havne't seen it, but I recall the available server ports on one machine to be 5400 and believe it to only go to 5405, but could be wrong.
Brock, yes that's what I thought. I'm wondering if the problem is that I requested "Too many Servers" from the Altme world-creator itself. I'm talking about starting worlds that I have consistently used for years and one more (to make four) that is new. You've given me another thought though, maybe my own machine is causing this to happen(?) At this point I can only run two of the three existing worlds and never the newest one. Hmmm.
Make sure all worlds are open when you create a new one, otherwise it won't use a new port number. It always goes to port 5400 if it's not already serving another world.
Brock, do you know if the port is stored with the lookup server? That is, once created, will that world always serve on the alternate port, even if it's the only world running?
yes, the port is stored with the lookup server
It is also placed in your config files on local machine - however, no matter how you try, if you registered new world without old ones running, altme registers it to existing port and then you will face strange situation, when your client is choosing to new world, but is connected to another one ...
Pekr is correct from my experience.
Thanks guys! That's very helpful information.
Yeah, it is. That's probably why it doesn't work. And worse, now one of my old worlds can't be started. I guess I'll have to wait until the others die.
hi everybody ... i met some problems with altme : problems with a dataset file
anybody got the same annoyment ?
I've seen various annoyances. Can you describe yours in more detail?
I think I found the trick to serving multiple worlds, even if they weren't set up correctly at first. In the info file in %altme/servers/<your-world>/, change 5400 to, e.g., 5401. When you start the world again, it seems to use that port. I haven't tried it with a shortcut start yet.
I believe the file is config.txt in Windows. There is a server-port option.
sorry... host-addr. Good find Gregg.
Let me start over... host-port is what Gregg is talking about. There is also a host-addr setting that might be the source of my worlds becoming unavailable all of a sudden even though they are used on a daily basis. I'll have to check that out next time my world locks me out.
Thanks. I waited a couple of days an now it is fine (4 worlds running). Since I didn't do anything on my side I'm wondering if the Altme server has something to do with it. Who knows? I'm just glad it works now : )
Does copy and paste not work on AltME running under Linux?
It works in the input box, but as far as I can tell, nowhere else. So we can't copy/paste code that somene else posted
Double-clicking on a link doesn't open a webapge in your browser either....and you can't even copy the URL to paste it in the browser.
I suspect that quite a few of the AltME Linux users run the Windows version using WINE
Hummm. I'll try it under wine to see how it works out. Thanks.
Command: wine altme.exe -w rebol3
Some observations for Reichart on making ALTME more viral. 1. Host all worlds for free but unsecured. 2. Tier packages 3. Enable one click access from external sites to ALTME worlds 4. Ads Tier 1) Regarding #1 - I think if you host all ALTME worlds for free that people will sign up quickly. What would drive someone to fork over the cash is going to be traffic. I can bet that once someone starts getting traffic to their world and generating content they are going to want to keep it. ALTME owns the content of the worlds until someone secures it with payment for the hosting account. (Major incentive that rewards growth). 2) Make product tiers that target hosting accounts towards gaining income and visibility for their hosted safeworlds. 3) Think of going to a website and it says something like JOIN the DISCUSSION and then says click here and has a small ALTME logo that launches you into ALTME and then takes you directly to the particular safeworld. and if someone doesn't it have it - it takes you to ALTME download link. Almost all other messaging mediums have this capability. 4) This is an excellent idea to compliment number 2. One tier that can be offers for additional costs would allow ADVERTISEMENTS within the safeworld framework. For example, consider many online forums generate revunue from Google Adsense by placement of ads in their content. ALTME could offer this type of capability as well. This is really an area where I think that REBOL can get great exposure. If advertisements are required to be put forward in REBOL code this means that Google would have to have REBOL programmers develop delivery content to interface with ALTME. I have no doubt in my mind that they would do it. ALTME can boast that it has www.rebol.com as a marketing partner and REBOL.com according to marketleap.com is a "contender" class website showing that ALTME can get the word out if it really wants to.
It _is_ possible to copy/paste in linux, but altme mangles the two different paste buffers, so ... you have to copy by using ctrl+c, and to insert the text in any other app than altme, use middle mouse click. Works for me on ubuntu 7.10
Does anyone know where the world is stored in MS Vista when you have UAC on ? I've searched my hard drive and can't find it
I wish to open up the directory where files are shared but the windows explorer doesn't open.
I believe, because I installed Altme into the programs directory, that the data etc is in some virtual drive system to sandbox everything.
AltME should change the default install directory and not choose the Programs directory in Vista.
Or, get AltME signed .. that might help.
If i turn UAC off, it downloads all the world data again.
I don't want to see a sea of red
Re virtual dirs; try C:\Users\<you>\AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program Files\Altme\...
You may need to tweak Search (and these options are buried deep enough that I can't remember) to include non-indexed data. And I like this one; from wikipedia User_Access_Control --- However, David Cross, a product unit manager at Microsoft, stated during the RSA Conference 2008 that UAC was in fact designed to "annoy users", and force independent software vendors to make their programs more secure so that UAC prompts would not be triggered. --- Smart company; annoy a billion people to get 1000 to play nice with Microsoft. I say we get out the torches and chase down Dr. Frankenstein. :)
That makes me Cross
If you are on Vista (or for that matter any Windows from 2000 up), install AltMe in %appdata%\AltMe. AltMe's directory usage is not Windows 2000 compliant.
I moved my AltME from program files to it's own directory so I can now browse the downloads. Now I get a security requester each time I start up Altme ... I guess because it has not been signed.
That may be from the security alternate data stream. Get AOD from http://tp.lc.ehu.es/jma/win95.htmland see.
AOD -> ADS
Not sure if this has been suggested before but a Search [By Group|By Person|All] would be very helpful in Altme especially when combining threads/posts from disparate groups/users - this would also bring us more in line with web based forums for usability :)
erm ignore that.. i finally discovered the magnifying glass..
never noticed that before :)
I think i am so used to looking for a textbox next to a search button that i totally overlooked it. Perhaps that is something to consider - new users to altme who have come from a web background will be expecting a textbox where they can type something in and then press search. Having it 'hidden' behind a button may cause confusion for some of us ;)
what's the logic in segregating some buttons top right and some top left??
top right seem to all be group/message related so they form a logical grouping. As for the top left buttons they seem generic functionality based - whether they are easier than a menu functionality i'm not sure - one has to hover over them to determine their immediate usage
so chat settings is in the wrong place!