World: r3wp

I do like to see the movement on altme development

Update to 1.2.8 went well.

playing around with file sharing here... is it wise to just allow 
to run DOS batch files without permission? when I upload a .bat file 
and click on it from another host, it immediately runs.

Runs on which machine ?

Not a good idea IMO. I guess its altme-filesharing and they use 'run 
for launch? aybe they should launch through the browser isntead, 
would that protect?

anton: standard XP box runs it immediately

with all the latest updates...

I meant, does it run on the machine from which you clicked, or does 
it run on the server where the .bat file lives. (after thought I 
suppose it runs on the machine from which you clicked.)

anton:


1. on Machine A, an XP box, I create a bat file and add it to my 
file sharing list on my world

2. on Machine B, also an XP box, I open AltME on that same world 
with the same user account and notice that a new file is ready for 
download.
3. on Machine B, I click it and it downloads.

4. on Machine B, I click it again, and it immediately opens a DOS 
shell window and runs.

A bit of a security hole.

but that 's it like telling, then someone sends me format.exe in 
email, I save it, and once I click it, it formats my HD :-) Or am 
I missing something? How is that supposed to be a security hole?

pekr, maybe I'm just too used to OSX, but OSX will ask for security 
permission before I run anything at that level.

there isn't even a requester saying "do you really want to run this 
app? could be dangerous. your computer could go boom." like webbrowsers 
do nowadays.

maybe I just don't understand the issue - what level do you mean? 
You downloaded .bat file, which is just that, .bat file. It now depends, 
what you can do under your XP box (user permissions)

well, so basically you are expecting altme to distinguish particular 
suffixes as .bat, .pif, .exe .cmd and prevent their direct execution?

yes, something like that. I think it's pretty standard policy to 
do that. What's this notorious single-click policy to run things 
in Rebol anyway? The viewtop does it too. :-)

you can run it by single click in altme? That is not probably good 
:-)

yes, that's what I'm complaining about :-)

then I do understand your concern :-)

Well with rebol at least you have some security. But I always preferred 
double-click to run an application.

Oh I see what you mean - single-click from AltME executes the .bat 
file.

I think it's part of Reichart's new philosophy to simplify everything 
to the lowest common denominator, which I'm not entirely sold on.

me neither

i guess he simply uses an os-call to launch the right app. Where 
the app is choosen by the os, based on filetype. And a *.bat runs..

I think Carl wrote this stuff ...

I would log it as a bug

I've just installed ubuntu on my desktop (15" LCD screen). The first 
application I've installed is AltME.

The text size in minute even with the large font selected. Any hints?

in -> is

is it a font issue?

I remember RT has document it somewhere that there are some libraries 
required to run REBOL/View on Linux

I don't know - the rest of the dekstop is fine - does Rebol require 
special fonts.

.. dekstop -> desktop

http://www.rebol.net/builds/lib-dep.html

how about the above link?

I saw 'freetype' as a requirement

It runs okay but the text is so small I can hardly read it. The large 
text seems to be about the same size as the small text on Windows 
(which is too small for us MAc users ;-) )

YEah, this is an ongoing problem, we need a wiki for this.

the problem is related to X-windows DPI settings, which seems to 
change on a whim with varying window managers and distributions.

I had to reconnect to this world again to get the latest updates. 
However, the last group I was sitting in was !RebGUI. After the update, 
it moved to the top like it should, because there was new posts in 
it, but it was not painted red and it was not selected after logging 
in, so it must have been tagged as read somehow.

I read it!

Which key combination do you use to copy text in AltME on Linux (Ubuntu) 
?

As in windows. But kde-programms will not see it, gnome-apps do.

Thanks, Volker. Ctrl-C and Ctrl-V work fine!! I think I must have 
been pressing Alt-C and Alt-V when I tried before (to used to Cmd-C 
& Cmd-V on my Mac!!).


I notice that right-click isn't supported. Scrolling seems better 
than under Windows though.

Just reinstalled system copied Altme folder to new location and I'm 
hapy to see, that Altme is one of these easy to move applications:-)

Anyone know how many world servers AltMe World servers will communicate 
while polling for changes?  I am just running a demo of a packet 
sniffer package  PRTG Packet Grapher and I get about 6-12 IP addresses 
connecting regularly with my computer.  The IP addresses all seem 
to end in either .69 or .223.

This should not be related with Altme at least I have have only one 
regular Altme connection (to www.rebol.net:5400) But I'm not running 
any world. If you have a world, you probably will see people connected 
to your world (altme) server

And it's not important how the IP ends, but how starts:-)

I agree with the starting part, but thought that they had servers 
located in more than one location.  The coincidence with the vast 
majority ending in the same digits has me wondering if the servers 
are not related to eachother.

Yes, I have a world running but it is just for personal chat between 
family and doesn't get used very often.

There are regular bursts of transfers as seen by the packet graphing 
utility, so that leads me to believe it is simply AltME connecting... 
but it sure would be nice to know.

This is a rather annoying bug with 1.2.8 ... not sure if it were 
present before .. but if you have something in the clipboard, then 
right click no longer copies anything to the clipboard.