World: r3wp

Recently (several weeks ago) we had masive crashes here after a MS 
update on diff computers.

However, AltME seems fine on my two XP laptops (diff designs and 
versions).

james: "When I exit the program...the app's window closes but the 
app stays around as a task"

hmm..does this your encapped program only when running from altme 
or als when you run it 'normally'?

If the second is true maybe you are using in your program something 
like:
view/new layout [...some layout here...]
forever [
	do [...some loop code...]
	wait <some time> 
]


If so the you need to properly handle the event when you closing 
the View window because othervise the window is only closed but the 
FOREVER (or any other) loop is still running. The solution is for 
example put before the "view/new" line:


insert-event-func func [face event][if event/type = 'close [quit] 
return event]


(ofcourse if your app is using multiple windows you need to add some 
more logic to decide which window should QUIT the app and which not 
when using the 'X' close button)

Thanks Cyphre. I believe with this app, this is the case as it is 
able to be launched from another script and then return to that script. 
Good catch. I will fix that. dekuji vám!

:-)

To think I had all those instances running all this time!

What about some easy way how to localize Altme?

I upgraded to 1.2.5 .. and everything turned red on me :(

It really really really needs a way to clear all the reds in one 
hit

weird, I had no problem when I upgraded-did you do a fresh install 
?

Lost password again ...

I just upgraded to the newest whatever (says 1.2.(3) on the splash, 
and 1.2.6 on the window border, on windows), and I had the same problem 
with loosing my password.

Same login name in 2 worlds, I was first in one, and changed to the 
second,  when I switched the worlds dropdown, it seems that the info 
on username and password has not been updated, instead the password 
on the second login has been updated with the password from my "main" 
login.
That's how it looked to me, no guarantee that it's what happened.
WinXP, not installed but "run from this location".

Updated to 1.2.6 automatically - first it said "download failed", 
I could see dialog with started initial download, but suddenly I 
was asked to restart with new update - all wen ok then ...

wen=went

same here.

I think that Cyphre or someone else could be contracted, to improve 
feeling to AltME in a big way - e.g. list-box with available worlds 
is simply awful - typical VID bug - you can't escape it by pressing 
escape, you can't escape it by clicking outside, you can't escape 
it in any way ... that just makes so bad impression here ....

Other thing - after all those years, list style could be updated, 
to allow keyboard scrolling, or even shortcut search of groups ....

I think that small things could make a real difference ... and I 
vote for some button to de-red groups at once :-)

Upgrade here went just fine though I agree with Graham heartily that 
we need they "Kill Red" button badly. I wonder what would happen 
if I read all the files and rewrote them?

is there a list of changes somewhere?

I kind of miss a list of changes in a window, when asking whether 
you want to upgrade

Ahh...just noticed that Altme upgrade wiped my saved userid and passwords 
:(

Upgrade to 1.2.6 seems to have gone fine for me.

I had no problems in upgrading. No lost passwords or anything.

+1 on everything Pekr just said, actually I'd give it at least a 
+10 ;-)

I just got an "Internet Busy..." and was disconnected. Is that new?

same here but I'm using a wireless card in my laptop at a truck stop 
and it show 1.2.8 here

there was indeed another update

one can wonder what the changes are :-)

http://altme.com/new.html<--- oh :-)

I do like to see the movement on altme development

Update to 1.2.8 went well.

playing around with file sharing here... is it wise to just allow 
to run DOS batch files without permission? when I upload a .bat file 
and click on it from another host, it immediately runs.

Runs on which machine ?

Not a good idea IMO. I guess its altme-filesharing and they use 'run 
for launch? aybe they should launch through the browser isntead, 
would that protect?

anton: standard XP box runs it immediately

with all the latest updates...

I meant, does it run on the machine from which you clicked, or does 
it run on the server where the .bat file lives. (after thought I 
suppose it runs on the machine from which you clicked.)

anton:


1. on Machine A, an XP box, I create a bat file and add it to my 
file sharing list on my world

2. on Machine B, also an XP box, I open AltME on that same world 
with the same user account and notice that a new file is ready for 
download.
3. on Machine B, I click it and it downloads.

4. on Machine B, I click it again, and it immediately opens a DOS 
shell window and runs.

A bit of a security hole.

but that 's it like telling, then someone sends me format.exe in 
email, I save it, and once I click it, it formats my HD :-) Or am 
I missing something? How is that supposed to be a security hole?

pekr, maybe I'm just too used to OSX, but OSX will ask for security 
permission before I run anything at that level.

there isn't even a requester saying "do you really want to run this 
app? could be dangerous. your computer could go boom." like webbrowsers 
do nowadays.

maybe I just don't understand the issue - what level do you mean? 
You downloaded .bat file, which is just that, .bat file. It now depends, 
what you can do under your XP box (user permissions)

well, so basically you are expecting altme to distinguish particular 
suffixes as .bat, .pif, .exe .cmd and prevent their direct execution?

yes, something like that. I think it's pretty standard policy to 
do that. What's this notorious single-click policy to run things 
in Rebol anyway? The viewtop does it too. :-)

you can run it by single click in altme? That is not probably good 
:-)

yes, that's what I'm complaining about :-)

then I do understand your concern :-)

Well with rebol at least you have some security. But I always preferred 
double-click to run an application.

Oh I see what you mean - single-click from AltME executes the .bat 
file.