World: r3wp

I've been getting lots of these errors lately for some reason ( Never 
had this problem before):

Invalid data type during recycle
** Press enter to quit...

That is what we call the "rebol" bug.

I'm wondering if it might be cause by not enough ram? I've installed 
too many programs that leave drivers running in memory.

We see it randomly so far.

I think it was caused by my setting message limit to 10000 per chat 
room so I could do some searching.

I changed it back to 100 per chat room, and now the problem is gone.

Cool!  That is actually pretty solid info then.  WE are going to 
simply cap to 100 except for single operations.  In other words, 
you can search the past, but then return to 100.

Thoughts?

Good idea. It happened because I forgot to change back after searching. 
...didn't realize it for awhile.

Thoughts, yes. I'm not sure, if you read all history into mem!? If 
you set cap to 100, it may be a good idea to only load 100 posts 
into mem for each group. Searching should then be smart and search 
on disk, only loading those posts in, that's needed.

Yes, it would be much better if a search could be done without the 
user having to change any settings. Otherwise most users will probably 
not do any searching at all.

I would also want a browse mode where i could broese all history 
--- and that 100 is pretty small 500 or 1000 should work. (and if 
they dont there is something else learned about the bug) but I am 
sure I have never run with less than 1000 lines of buffer and only 
rarely had the recycle bug  and then most likely because of searching 
prompted me to increase my buffer and I would only decrease it if 
things got too sluggish

My computer is really low on RAM, which might have something to do 
with this.

I have a lot of RAM, and I tend to leave the history at 500. Please 
allow the cap to be specified, and then have the whole of history 
available for search.

How about loading stuff with a load/next loop? its a block of blocks, 
so that would work. and the loaded portions would be smaller.

I think it's related the RAM (or the lack thereof) as well. I normally 
see that when I've hit my limit and venture in virtual memory.

I think its related to timing. A big operation takes to long. Using 
vmem takes even longer.

on the detective the GC used to crash a lot when invoked while inside 
an awake function. i worked around it by deferring actions. i guess 
this is the same bug or very similar, and it should be fixed in view 
1.3, so a new build of altme should fix it.

Ok, so a large amount of data processing, the creation of a large 
block perhaps, or lots of small ones, could cause the GC to kick 
in to free some older data.

It may also have something to do with the after-effects of a full 
virus scan.

New AltME release (must download, will not auto update to this):
www.altme.com/download/altme-b1203.exe
www.altme.com/download/altme-osx-b1203.tar.gz

If you have bugs or minor enhancements (no majors accepted right 
now), be sure to report them using AltME feedback.  We do not scan 
this chat group (sorry, not enough time!)

Current version is 1.2.3

We can now add filesharing to this world, because 1.2.3 does not 
auto-load all files.

Running 1.2.3 under OSX, and it seems to work ok. Who desides, if 
filesharing shall be opened?

It is to be decided by the admin users of this world.

I think they have all requested it. So as soon as people are upgraded 
to the new 1.2.3, we can turn it on.

note, that 1.2.3 most probably fixes the "recycle error" crashes 
many people have seen. if you used to get that problem, please try 
this new version and let us know if it still crashes. :)

survived 1 start with 1000 messages. but never tried, may have worked 
before. now how to scroll precisely? :)

hehe URL's are recognized, so I can just click them. Very nice!

Thanks Carl, Reichart and SafeWorlds!

New version works for me, seems to do a better job with URLs. Cool!

Nope, same problem with URLs. Example from Tech News: http://www.xml.com/pub/a/2005/11/16/introducing-sparql-querying-semantic-web-tutorial.html

Note that the blue doesn't extend to the end of the link.

Wrapping still isn't quite right either.

At least it isn't crashing or anything like that. Not that it was 
before for me, but a lack of regressions is nice.

Is the ability to open other Worlds in the top left corner new with 
1.2.3?  (I didn't try the latest releases)

It's new AFAIK - I noticed it right away.

Just noticed the drop-down used for the World selector doesn't close 
unless you choose a world.  And if you are already in that world, 
it reconnects.  This could be handled better.

Yeah, I noticed that too. Perhaps clicking outside of the box could 
close the box without changes?

As a suggestion I mean - it doesn't now.

I sent a feedback on the World selection drop-down usability.

Hmm, after sending a second feedback, AltMe shut down on me after 
pressing "Return to World"

My second feedback/request was asking to only have to type in user 
credentials once per AltMe session.  I don't auto-populate my userid 
and password as this computer is a multi-user computer that doesn't 
take advantage of the built-in OS multi-user features (setup as single 
user).  So, switching between Worlds requires me to login each time 
I visit worlds I was already logged into.

Anyone agree?  (or should I just setup more users on my OS?  ;-)

By the way, it's nice seeing these new icons appear in AltME.  I 
can't wait to see what Altissimo has in store for us.

I like to show newest messages first. But when I sort by users to 
find a particular user or group easier, and then click on status, 
the default has been changed to most active users first. I have to 
manually change it back to newest messages first. Is there any way 
to change the default?

Click the "M" column maybe !

No.

No problems so far for me with the new version.