World: r3wp

today you enter a secretary office there is windows XP  every where 
you enter a publisher/graphist maker you have apple every where? 
As there is less publisher than secretary  this explain as a short 
cut why there is sutch difference. When you enter a astronom office 
you have sun Sparc every where. As you get less astronom than plublisher 
you understand the difference betwin Apple and Sun :). Some people 
needs simplicity of use others need fiability of use. Then you have 
the rounding industry those building the sourrounded technologies 
in all cases they need to sell a lot this explain for example why 
a comon SONY MP3 sevice came with drivers to plug it to a PC equiped 
with windows and why they not giving apps and drvers to handle it 
under linux and unix.

As every one (non ingeneer ) needs simple systems they adopt windows 
in majority more as Sony MP3 devices are designed to be used in the 
simpliest way this explain why people focus on windows this is part 
of it's actual success but this not means that windows is the best 
system this not means too that the other existing systems are not 
relevant :)

for example here in france macs are pretty well implented in university 
because they are simple to manage in hight number. In hoght schools 
you get windows but you get lesser computer to manage (In my hight 
school in 1997 they was only 30 computers equiped with windows with 
a controled acces for the students you can use it only on certain 
days of the weeks durring a gived time. When I ingress to university 
they was 200 macs for every one  to use every time 100 windows pc 
to be used on restricted time and 20 Alphas/linux debian + 10 Sillicon 
graphics 02 with IRIX + 3 data severs (2 sun ultra 1 (X11 sharing) 
 + 1 dec 50 (NFS, mail, web ) + 40 Xteminal box for former computer 
ingeneer  ) MAc and PC was used for office application LINUX/UNIX 
computers was used to form computer ingeneer .This shows pretty well 
I think the world clivage in informatic :)

EfishAnt lot of capabilities in nano-sheets I like ver mutch the 
presentation article

Thanks, Gregg did a lot of writing.  Nice collaboration, using all 
REBOL tools.

(Gregg did a lot of scripting, too)

They let us do the sidebar, which should get some publicity for "why 
REBOL?

Kru and Christian -- Both excellent!

Thank you very much, Gregg! I just uploaded a version with menu-bar 
style included, hope you'll like that one too :-)

very great great news that the version  1.3  is out and that it's 
quality is very high  !!!!

A million thank to all the people involveed to the 1.3 procession 
1.3 is the best of ever REBOL virtual machine ;)

From the opinion of a casual developer:  I just downloaded 1.3 and 
played around with the demos.  I have to say that I'm really impressed 
and that I think this release strengthens REBOL quite a bit.  Congratulations, 
and thanks for all the hard work to all of those involved.

Yes, demos are really nice, except Caluclator and maybe even Easy 
Vid, which is cool, but would deserve a bit more fresh look :-)

My old time friend, who tried to use rebol some few years ago, left 
it because of following reasons - weak View documentation, incomplete 
styleset, occassional View crashes. He complained about missing styles 
mainly, as as a newbie, he was not able to produce his own styles. 
He tried to look into styles source, but all those mysterious "init" 
and other things, you will agree - are not for newbies to start with. 
Then I digged out one old doc from my archive, basically describing 
View-without-VID - faces, events, their description etc. He then 
started to create his own styles, without VID. Then he left rebol.....

He tried to give a try to other environments, as Delphi etc., but 
he missed the beauty and freedom of rebol, forever :-)

So he is active for last few months once again, and once I pointed 
him to latest betas, it really made his day.

maybe you made his life.

But once again I think, that from newbie rebol coder perspective, 
the most important things which should follow is - additional, more 
complex styles, docs, and SDK featuring latest developments. Hopefully 
we will get there soon, but we are almost there with 1.3 - good work 
was done!

It let's you have menus in VID. Menu-bar and others.

The demo does nothing

Calling it "System" is propably hype ;-)

none of the buttons respond

using >> system/version
== 1.2.125.3.1

Any error messages?

nope

no menus appear

And you have both files in the same dir?

the menu-system is local, and the demo is remote

Put them into the same dir, if possible.

same problem

the only response I see is that the hilite appears above the buttons 
and menus

I'll check my user.r if that's what causes the problem, wait a second, 
please ...

the other thing is that if I close the demo window down, it doesn't 
return to console unless I use ESC

Yes, that's true, that's one of the remaining bugs.

A question: When you started the script, was there disk activity?

I tried an earlier version, and it worked as advertised

The demo tries to read system/options/home to build a menu that reflects 
the structure beneath that dir. Maybe that's what the problem causes?

My system/options/home is my rebgui directory, which has some subdirectories

before, it was my rebol/view directory

Before means: before you run the script? And the script changes it?

no, just when I last tried the demo out.

I have since installed later version of  view.

No, that shouldn't be  the cause.

I just installed view and no change.

But you got the demo window on the screen, together with a console 
window saying "Menu-System Demo" ?

Also, the demo window takes 2 clicks on the X to close it down.

correct

>> do %menu-system-demo.r
Script: "Menu-System Demo" (10-Jun-2005)
Script: "Menu-System" (11-Jun-2005)
Menu-System Demo

Ha, that's a hint: for some reason the menu may show invisible ...

Let me have a check ...