World: r3wp

Thanks Maxim,

Waiting for your GLass/Liquid stuff to be completed...I would love 
to get a better inface on my app...right now I feel its full of hacks 
to get R2 view to do what I need it to do...


I looked at GLayout (and REBGUI) but I thought pure VID would be 
easier for me to make any needed workarounds to missing needed compoments. 


Once I get a solid version 1 out I will look into porting to R3 (If 
new VID is ready) or your stuff again if you release a new version...

We already have a R2beta world ... why not use that?

Seconded.

How do I get an account to R2Beta?

Ditto

Ask Gregg

Sorry, it's ask Gabriele, BrianH or Carl

Wow... .Gabriele you've been busy ....

Nice schemes Gaby.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mey8GokRFf4

Can you do an english version Steeve?

I don't know if it's possible without destructing the flow (lot of 
private jokes)

A literal traduction would mean nothing

Thanks, Gabriele!

Great stuff, Gabriele

I wonder how Hardball differs to Rugby? Does it cure Rugby's ocassional 
problems?

Lots of good stuff in the power-mezz .... thanks, Gabriele!
  http://www.rebol.it/power-mezz/

Ups.. should respond here.. power-mezz seems really awesome collections 
of stuff? I should take a week off and study all it offers!

Is this part qtask libraries? I saw qtask in the license now.

It looks like stuff Gabriele has done for qtask

collect seems an awesome idea :) .. what are macros about and that 
custom func ?

i need volunteers to help with the docs. there's a wiki in the sourceforge 
page...

also, patches are always welcome. just clone the HG repository from 
the sourceforge page. you are also welcome to publish your derived 
repositories, and i will just pull the things i like.

Thanks Gabriele. Good job.

Graham, how is Jaime doing? is he monitoring R3 for a come back?

I don't think he is monitoring R3 .. I've just been in communication 
with him recently

He's still scheming, and you can see what he is doing from his Linkedin 
profile

Excellent Graham. Thanks for pursuing that.

Replying to amacleod here: http://www.rm-asset.com/

This provides a good description.

It appears to be a studio of programmers that do development, not 
an IDE.

Please don't call me an IDE :-)

I would never do so, you are totally RAD :)

Uhm, thanks :-)

RAD was a term in the '90s that meant Rapid Application Development. 
It's a compliment, if a somewhat goofy one.

Yes, it was corny then too.

AFAIK the compliment only works because it was also a term in the 
80's meaning "cool".

Hence the pun, even when Borland coined the term. If you want to 
know what it referred to, look at every development environment nowadays 
which has a visual GUI designer, especially those that affect the 
code directly when you make visual changes. All high-end IDEs in 
modern times are cheap knockoffs of Delphi from the early '90s (back 
in the Win 3.1 days), even Visual Studio.

I suppose the NeXT guys didn't have much to say in that? Maybe my 
history is not good on that. When did Delphi come around?

Before NeXT by a few years.

But the modern IDE style folows the Delphi model. Especially the 
MS tools, since they licensed the patents (and poached Borland's 
employees).

Maybe that's one more reason why no-one bought NeXT boxes (aside 
from the price).

And also the Sun and Oracle tools, since the component model of Java 
was designed by Borland. And Eclipse, since it emulated the MS tools.

Developers did buy NeXT boxes to cross-develop for other platforms. 
And some apps got ported to Windows later (I miss Lotus Improv).

NeXT's visual form designer was based on Smalltalk's. Delphi followed 
a different model altogether.

Smalltalk came first, of course.

And I think NeXTSTEP preceded Delphi by several years, in fact. Of 
course, OSX's present-day interface builder app is a direct NeXTSTEP 
heritage. But we're way off-topic now, I guess :)

VB came before Delphi, and I think Interface Builder beat them both.

NeXT (85) came WAY before VB (91) and Delphi (93)

I still have my BW and Colour NeXT, I have my original copies of 
Windows 1, and VB, and Delphi...

Ah, OK, cool. I just have the last 3, was too young for NeXT then. 
Delphi was based on Turbo Vision, a DOS product that came out after 
Windows 1 iirc, but the GUI builder was new. Which came first, VB 
for DOS or VB for Windows?

It's really interesting the different approaches taken around that 
time. I was studying and writing UI frameworks in the early '90s, 
starting before VB and Delphi came out. It would have been cool to 
see a NeXT machine in more than magazine articles. The IB model is 
gaining acendancy with the newest platforms now: OS X, WPF, Glade 
(don't know about the Qt stuff). Most of the corporate-backed Java 
tools still follow the Delphi model though. Flash still seems to 
follow (an advanced version of) the VB model, but Flex probably doesn't.

I don't remember VB DOS/Win, but I recall odditites back then...