docs for facets styles for vid?
[1/17] from: ben:brannen::gmail at: 10-Sep-2009 21:50
Where can I find a Rebol reference for all the modification that can occur
to an object
i.e. defined standard styles / facets?
text bold, italic, size, etc...
text-list ??????
button [color] [size] etc....
I can't seem to find a simple reference anywhere.
Remember the old BASIC reference manual of the '70-80's
PEEK ###
Retuns the value of the memory location specified. Can accept Hex or Decimal
values.
Example:
PEEK (16345)
>> $FF
PEEK $ABCD
>> $F3
-ben
[2/17] from: compkarori:gm:ail at: 11-Sep-2009 15:07
Ben
There never has been a comprehensive document on Vid .. the usual
excuse is that it is not Rebol, just a dialect.
You'll see several half finished documents on RT's various sites.
http://www.rebol.com/docs/view-guide.html
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Ben Brannen<ben.brannen-gmail.com> wrote:
> Where can I find a Rebol reference for all the modification that can occur
> to an object
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[3/17] from: ddharing:atronixengineering at: 11-Sep-2009 9:18
Another common response to this question is "Just study the source". Good,
comprehensive documentation is hard to write. You take it for granted until
it's not available.
If someone wrote a third-party reference guide for VID, I would buy it.
Graham Chiu wrote: Ben There never has been a comprehensive document on Vid
.. the usual excuse is that it is not Rebol, just a dialect. You'll see
several half finished documents on RT's various sites.
http://www.rebol.com/docs/view-guide.html[1] On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 2:50
PM,Ben Brannen<ben.brannen-gmail.com>[2] wrote: Where can I find a Rebol
reference for all the modification that can occu= r to an object =A0i.e.
defined standard styles / facets? text bold, italic, size, etc... text-list
?????? button [color] [size] etc.... I can't seem to find a simple reference
anywhere. Remember the old BASIC reference manual of the '70-80's PEEK ###
Retuns the value of the memory location specified. Can accept Hex or Decimal values.
Example: PEEK (16345) $FF PEEK $ABCD $F3 -ben -- To unsubscribe
from the list, just send an email to lists at rebol.com with unsubscribe as
the subject. --=20 Graham Chiu http://www.synapsedirect.com[3] Synapse - the
use from anywhere EMR.
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[4/17] from: ben:brannen:g:mail at: 11-Sep-2009 9:07
I would write it, if I knew where to look.
:-)
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 8:18 AM, David den Haring <
ddharing-atronixengineering.com> wrote:
[5/17] from: henrikmk:gma:il at: 11-Sep-2009 16:23
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Ben Brannen <ben.brannen-gmail.com> wrote:
> I would write it, if I knew where to look.
> :-)
I happen to know where to look.
This is another shameless plug for the VID Extension Kit, sorry. :-)
There will be updated docs and new build soon and with that there will
also be a style creation document, that explains those parts of VID in
details. This will also work for standard VID. If you can hang on for
a few days...
--
Regards,
Henrik Mikael Kristensen
[6/17] from: ben:brannen:gma:il at: 11-Sep-2009 9:43
looking forward to it.
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 9:23 AM, Henrik Mikael Kristensen <
henrikmk-gmail.com> wrote:
[7/17] from: brock:kalef:innovapost at: 11-Sep-2009 10:29
This link may be helpful
http://www.rebol.org/ml-display-thread.r?m=rmlTVCC.The last item in
the mail-list thread (courtesy of Anton) actually has commands to
display
o all the styles available
o the details of those styles
o the list of all available generic facets
o styles with style-specific facets
Brock
[8/17] from: anton:wilddsl:au at: 12-Sep-2009 1:29
Hi Ben,
The source can be mined:
foreach [style face] svv/vid-styles [print [style mold face/words]]
Some docs I wrote:
http://anton.wildit.net.au/rebol/doc/facets.txt
http://anton.wildit.net.au/rebol/doc/grow-facets.r
http://anton.wildit.net.au/rebol/doc/face-flags.txt
Those three docs together should cover almost all facets
you're likely to encounter with default VID styles.
Anton.
Ben Brannen wrote:
[9/17] from: carl:cybercraft at: 12-Sep-2009 11:02
On Friday, 11-September-2009 at 9:18:28 David den Haring wrote,
> Another common response to this question is "Just study the source". Good,
>comprehensive documentation is hard to write. You take it for granted until
>it's not available.
But when it's a commercial product, it's the job of those who produced it to provide
the docs for how to use it. It's also terribly inefficient to leave it to others to first
figure out how it works and then explain it. Those who designed it already know how it
works and why it works as it does, (hopefully), so they're the obvious ones to write
the docs. They'll be able to do it quicker and better than hundreds or thousands of users
all studying the source in the hope of figuring out how things work, most of who'll give
up before getting much of a grasp of how it works.
REBOL's supposed to be a better, quicker way to program. But how much time have its users
lost because the View/VID docs were only half done X number of years back and then left
at that stage?
-- Carl Read.
[10/17] from: moliad:gma:il at: 11-Sep-2009 21:48
Hi all,
The real reference documentation to VID/View is here:
http://www.rebol.com/docs/view-system.html
I refer to it often, still.
VID is just a dialect over view, and just about everything in view is
used directly by the code in VID, so just knowing what view can do, is
the best way to understand VID.
The init and feel code of most styles is also a VERY good place to
look to know how the various styles work. things like the obscure
face/colors & face/fonts block can be understood by looking at these.
-MAx
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 7:02 PM, Carl Read <carl-cybercraft.co.nz> wrote:
> On Friday, 11-September-2009 at 9:18:28 David den Haring wrote,
>
>> Another common response to this question is "Just study the source". Good,
>>comprehensive documentation is hard to write. You take it for granted until
>>it's not available.
>
> But when it's a commercial product, it's the job of those who produced it to provide
the docs for how to use it. It's also terribly inefficient to leave it to others to first
figure out how it works and then explain it. Those who designed it already know how it
works and why it works as it does, (hopefully), so they're the obvious ones to write
the docs. They'll be able to do it quicker and better than hundreds or thousands of users
all studying the source in the hope of figuring out how things work, most of who'll give
up before getting much of a grasp of how it works.
>
> REBOL's supposed to be a better, quicker way to program. But how much time have its
users lost because the View/VID docs were only half done X number of years back and then
left at that stage?
[11/17] from: moliad:g:mail at: 12-Sep-2009 1:02
by pure circumstances... I just came across this page which gives some
other data about stuff related to VID/View.
its like a user accumulated page of tidbits, FAQ & Howto... useful for
beginners & intermediate level REBOLers
very cool when using search function of a browser you can discover
many little tricks which aren't easily covered in reference manuals...
-MAx
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 9:48 PM, Maxim Olivier-Adlhoch <moliad-gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
> The real reference documentation to VID/View is here:
<<quoted lines omitted: 18>>
>>
>> REBOL's supposed to be a better, quicker way to program. But how much time have its
users lost because the View/VID docs were only half done X number of years back and then
left at that stage?
[12/17] from: ddharing:atronixengineering at: 14-Sep-2009 8:24
Max,
Which page are you referring to?
Maxim Olivier-Adlhoch wrote: by pure circumstances... I just came across
thispage which gives some other data about stuff related to VID/View. its
like a user accumulated page of tidbits, FAQ &Howto... useful for beginners
&intermediate level REBOLers very cool when using search function of a
browser you can discover many little tricks which aren't easily covered in
reference manuals... -MAx On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 9:48 PM, Maxim
Olivier-Adlhoch <moliad-gmail.com>[1] w= rote: Hi all, The real reference
documentation to VID/View is here:
http://www.rebol.com/docs/view-system.html[2]I refer to it often, still. VID
is just a dialect over view, and just about everything in view is used
directly by the code in VID, so just knowing what view can do, is the best
way to understand VID. The init and feel code of most styles is also a VERY
good place to look to know how the various styles work. =A0things like the
obscure face/colors &face/fonts block can be understood by looking at these.
-MAx On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 7:02 PM, Carl Read <carl-cybercraft.co.nz>[3]
wrote: On Friday, 11-September-2009 at 9:18:28 David den Haring wrote,
Another common response to this question is "Just study the source". Go= od,
comprehensive documentation is hard to write. You take it for granted untilit's not available.
But when it's a commercial product, it's the job of
those who produced i= t to provide the docs for how to use it. It's also
terribly inefficient to = leave it to others to first figure out how it
worksand then explain it. Th= ose who designed it already know how it works
and why it works as it does, = (hopefully), so they're the obvious ones to
write the docs. They'll be able= to do it quicker and better than hundreds
orthousands of users all studyi= ng the source in the hope of figuring out
how things work, most of who'll g= ive up before getting much of a grasp of
how it works. REBOL's supposed to be a better, quicker way to program. But
how much ti= me have its users lost because the View/VID docs were only half
done X numb= er of years back and then left at that stage? -- Carl Read. --
To unsubscribe from the list, just send an email to lists at rebol.com with
unsubscribe as the subject.
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Project Manager
Atronix Engineering, Inc.
3100 Medlock Bridge Rd. Suite 110
Norcross, GA 30071 [IMG][4]P 770-840-4045 x228 C 404-993-6973
F 770-840-4046
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[13/17] from: moliad:gm:ail at: 14-Sep-2009 12:52
Hi David,
Double Doh!! replied to someone privately, as they sent me a direct
mail asking for the link... didn't notice that...
here is the link for all to see:
http://www.pat665.free.fr/gtk/rebol-view.html
and while I'm at it, I'll add this excellent resource too:
http://www.codeconscious.com/rebol/
-MAx
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 8:24 AM, David den Haring
<ddharing-atronixengineering.com> wrote:
[14/17] from: vonja:sbcglobal at: 14-Sep-2009 9:55
I had the same question. Max responded with
http://www.pat665.free.fr/gtk/rebol-view.html
[15/17] from: nick:guitarz at: 14-Sep-2009 10:24
The info at this link should be helpful:
http://musiclessonz.com/rebol.html#section-6.1.1
Quoting David den Haring <ddharing-atronixengineering.com>:
[16/17] from: nick:guitarz at: 15-Sep-2009 18:35
I updated that section, and this script to include more about VID
styles, words, and facets:
http://www.rebol.org/view-script.r?script=quick-manual.r
Quoting Nick Antonaccio <nick-guitarz.org>:
[17/17] from: semseddinm:bircom at: 18-Sep-2009 10:56
Very nice, thanks a lot. I'll use this to add all words and styles to my
text editor's (editplus) auto-complete list.
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