ANN: RIDE Beta Test
[1/9] from: ammon:rcslv at: 11-Nov-2002 2:01
Hi,
I am now accepting applications to beta test RIDE. For those of you who are not familiar
with what RIDE is...
REBOL Integrated Development Environment (RIDE) is exactly that an integrated development
environment for REBOL. The highlights are:
RIDE/View --- A GUI face building tool, currently the engine is basically done, need
some testing though and, ironically, its GUI needs some work before it will be ready
for a public launch...
RIDE/Core --- An editor with context sensitive autocomplete and help. In a somewhat complete
form, needs testing and some of the feature smoothed out.
RIDE/ObjectEditor --- An Object Browser similar to Annamonitor, but with the ability
to edit and save Objects to file (nice if you are working with a reletively large script
that you can break up into section in an object)
RIDE/Guru --- A help system that I hope will actually help. The information will mostly
be compiled from this mail list. Just in the making, but should be testable by the time
the beta begins.
The initial test will be on an IOS Server. A stand alone version of RIDE will be available
later, depending on how the IOS testing goes, hopefully before the end of the first quarter
2003.
Please do NOT reply to this message on the list to apply, but send an email to [ammon--nutronx--com]
Enjoy!!
Ammon
[2/9] from: ammon:rcslv at: 11-Nov-2002 10:53
Hi again,
I have receieved a couple of questions multiple times, so here are some
more details on the RIDE beta...
I will be hosting an IOS Server named RIDE, it will work just like any
other IOS Server, you will be able to Link up and comunicate with other
developers, it will eventual have some CVS tools and be a comunity much like
SourceForge, but with messaging capabilities that will far outdo SourceForge
for productivity.
You will not need to be connected all of the time, in fact only the
messaging reblets will require you to have a net connection active to use
them.
I would like to have a little information on your background if you
would like to beta test so that I kow your experience level. (i.e. how long
have you been using REBOL, how long have you been programing and what
languages...)
HTH
Ammon
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ammon Cooke" <[ammon--rcslv--com]>
To: <[rebol-list--rebol--com]>
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 2:01 AM
Subject: [REBOL] ANN: RIDE Beta Test
> Hi,
>
> I am now accepting applications to beta test RIDE. For those of you
who are not familiar with what RIDE is...
> REBOL Integrated Development Environment (RIDE) is exactly that an
integrated development environment for REBOL. The highlights are:
> RIDE/View --- A GUI face building tool, currently the engine is basically
done, need some testing though and, ironically, its GUI needs some work
before it will be ready for a public launch...
> RIDE/Core --- An editor with context sensitive autocomplete and help. In a
somewhat complete form, needs testing and some of the feature smoothed out.
> RIDE/ObjectEditor --- An Object Browser similar to Annamonitor, but with
the ability to edit and save Objects to file (nice if you are working with a
reletively large script that you can break up into section in an object)
> RIDE/Guru --- A help system that I hope will actually help. The
information will mostly be compiled from this mail list. Just in the making
, but should be testable by the time the beta begins.
> The initial test will be on an IOS Server. A stand alone version of RIDE
will be available later, depending on how the IOS testing goes, hopefully
before the end of the first quarter 2003.
[3/9] from: chalz:earthlink at: 11-Nov-2002 13:15
> Hi again,
Howdy.
> I have receieved a couple of questions multiple times, so here are some
> more details on the RIDE beta...
Cool, thanks!
> You will not need to be connected all of the time, in fact only the
> messaging reblets will require you to have a net connection active to use
> them.
Okay. I was almost afraid one would have to stay connected with IOS in the
background to use RIDE, considering the vast amount of resources you're
proposing - help, objects, GUI, etc. It would strike me that the help files
would take up the most space, considering REBOL's design and resultant size.
> I would like to have a little information on your background if you
> would like to beta test so that I kow your experience level. (i.e. how long
> have you been using REBOL, how long have you been programing and what
> languages...)
Perfectly fair. I have to say I'm still rather a novice with REBOL. I've
been using it more or less for about 2.5yrs now, I think. However, I don't use
it constantly, and so I haven't progressed very far. I haven't coded a simple
Hello World
in /View yet - I tend to stick to /Core as most of the scripts I
write end up being back-end and utility style. I can't say I write the most
elegant REBOL. My mind still tends to work in a C style. I first started
programming on a Commodore Vic20 when I was about 6 years old (I'm almost 25
right now). Eventually we ended up with a PC and I did GWBASIC and QBASIC, but
it's been well over a decade since I touched them. My first real, analytical
approach to coding came in the multi-user "MOO" environment roughly 7 years
ago, and I continue to use it to this day, though I'd have to say I'm a high
intermediate rather than expert or guru. My first semester of university
focused around C and C++ for Unix environments, but most of that has faded from
my mind, save for structure - which is why my REBOL tends to be big and
over-spaced. (However, I prefer readability over condensed code.) I also
dabbled in Java 1.1 and VRML 2.0 some 3 years ago, but didn't get far, and did
some VB5 about 4 or 5yrs ago.
I still say I'm a novice with REBOL, but not a newbie or beginner. However,
I feel that I can bring a couple talents to the table not everyone else can.
First, I've been trained as a proofer/editor in English. If I spot a typo,
spelling error, or grammatical error, you'll know about it. If you wish me to
be lax in my proofing, I can be very lax. If you wish me to be cranked right
up to "Anal," I will criticize every word, format and punctuation which does
not jive with me. I also have a tendancy to break things which no one else
has. Often times, code which has been run successfully for months at a time
will break under my hands under normal usage.
Anyways, </bs>. Mostly, I desire to try out new software which interests me
at every chance I can. I can give you suggestions on GUI and layout, spelling
and wording in general. Despite what some people say about the color scheme on
my personal homepage (neon green on black), I know what I like when I see it (I
purposely chose that scheme), and can tell you what's horrid about it. I
really would like to give this a shot. Right now I'm working on a project to
index 13MB of mailing list archive .txt files, convert them into HTML, and
provide an index of key words. Something with some more stomp than Notepad
would be appreciated. I usually use NoteTab Pro, but am constantly alt-tabbing
between it and about 3 other windows while doing REBOL code.
So, there ya go. If you find me satisfactory, rock on. If not, no big
deal, I'll wait until version 1.0.0 comes out ;) Thanks.
--Charles
[4/9] from: rebol665:ifrance at: 11-Nov-2002 19:25
Hi, Ammon
If I am correct, only people with IOS can test RIDE at the moment.
Pat
[5/9] from: ammon:rcslv at: 11-Nov-2002 12:38
Hi,
No, if you are selected to test RIDE, you will recieve a link client and
an account on the RIDE Server.
Enjoy!!
Ammon
[6/9] from: chalz:earthlink at: 11-Nov-2002 13:43
Son of a .... How did this end up over here?!?!?! Dammit!!
I'm sorry folks :(( I thought Ammon had replied directly to me, so I hit
'reply'. Nerts :(
[7/9] from: gchiu::compkarori::co::nz at: 12-Nov-2002 8:19
If Amon shelled out $2000 for an IOS server, he will have obtained 10
licenses that he can dish out to beta testers.
This I think applies to both non and current IOS users.
So, you can see why Amon has be to highly selective in his choice of beta
testers.
--
Graham
[8/9] from: reffy:ulrich at: 11-Nov-2002 13:58
Did I hear someone say there was a bunch of Nerts here ??
Who you callin a NERT ??
[9/9] from: chalz:earthlink at: 11-Nov-2002 15:04
Yearh, er, um, uh.. yeah... Nerts... ;)