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[REBOL] Re: Language Popularity & Network Effects; Ruby & Mongrel

From: ale870:gm:ail at: 21-Nov-2007 17:23

Hello, central servers are a good way, for BIG companies, to "control" what you do, to control you and your PC (make publicity and money!). The same target are Ajax, GWT, Google OS, Flex, Adobe Air, etc... On Nov 21, 2007 2:37 PM, John Blake <> wrote:
> > SOA implementation. > I know it's an "architecture" but to be able to enable a service on > almost any server you have; and then write and deploy code to use that > service from any server you have; and be able to use the code from any > server you have; all with loading an app that's say 1 mg max? > > I cant wait for R3 so I can use the "services", dbase access and cli > part. > Then I'll stop using Perl. > > John > > -----Original Message----- > From: [] On Behalf > Of Carl Read > Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 3:55 AM > To: > Subject: [REBOL] Re: Language Popularity & Network Effects; Ruby & > Mongrel > > On Wednesday, 21-Novenber-2007 at 9:00:33 Petr Krenzelok wrote, > > > > >Carl Read napsal(a): > >> >From the fashion industry one... > >> > >> "Trained staff in a minority language are going to be rare. This does > not > >necessarily make them more expensive (nobody else wants them), but it > does > >make recruitment much harder and more uncertain. Alternatively you have > to > >train all your existing people in the new language. And for Functional > >Languages its not just another syntax, its a whole new way of > thinking." > >> > >> Two marks against REBOL there. > >> > >> Still, he did suggest a road to popularity - find a niche and own it. > > >What's a niche REBOL could create/take over? > >> > > > >Flash/Flex area - small, agile, distributed self-served PLATFORM, not > >just a language. There is long term plan - Altissimo - mixture of > >ViewTop, IOS, Altme, platform for small distributed apps. > > An online desktop then, but with no need of a central server owned by > others? > > A Google for "online desktop" turns up plenty of attempts, but I suspect > all of them are based on central-servers. In other words, designed for > lock-in. (No time to test them. I looked at the offerings a year or so > back, and some looked promising in that they were relatively responsive, > while others were horribly slow.) > > But won't those who don't like the central server approach also be the > ones who expect the alternative to be completely open-source? (REBOL > would also be great for a distributed social network, except those who > don't like the current social networks being central-server based are > not going to accept an alternative with software that isn't > open-source.) > > But yes, technically, REBOL would be great in both those areas. And > ought to able to attract those who would like an online desktop/platform > and don't care about how it's done. (I'm pretty sure a distributed > social-network's a non-starter though.) > > -- Carl Read. > > -- > To unsubscribe from the list, just send an email to > lists at with unsubscribe as the subject. > > -- > To unsubscribe from the list, just send an email to > lists at with unsubscribe as the subject. >
-- //Alessandro