Mailing List Archive: 49091 messages
  • Home
  • Script library
  • AltME Archive
  • Mailing list
  • Articles Index
  • Site search

[REBOL] Re: Rebol SDK vs Command

From: greg::schofield::iinet::net::au at: 15-Sep-2007 11:06

Carl, I for one see problems with core code becoming open-source. Bloat and extras, have a terrible effect especially on a language like REBOL, I would not like it to folloow Python. On the other hand LUA has managed to keep its core "pure" and small and effectively the source available to anyone - its problem seems to be that it has become a language imbedded in a lot of software but not cohereing into an environment. I am obviously very new and ignornant, but one way I see REBOL standing out is as an application environment, indeed a see it as having a possible future as THE application environment in a lot of areas. Diverse hosting is a problem, small OSes need to easily have REBOL ported to them without central responsiblity for doing it. Another way of seeing things develop, business and technology wise is to find a good niche for REBOL's Wildman project - that is a fixed architecture machine/console with a large enough market to supply the capital to port hosted REBOL consistantly over all OSes, more or less, without exception. Obviously I am thinking of the PS3 and PSP market and ancillaries to this as a begining point, but a modest number of PDAs and powerful multipurpose Phones and other fixed-architecture HW would form a strong starting base. The problem then is to have at least common productivity software genres, and familar functions and extensions, to make REBOL Wildman worth buying. The thrid option, is to make REBOL core source available, on an as is basis - a licensing agreement (how the hell it would be enforced I don't know) where the source can only be used for porting and only "adpated" for that purpose. But once released there is no getting things back, multiple slightly incompatible REBOLs, or REBOL itself bloating because of innovations elsewhere with the source code would in my opinion be no good. I prefer the Wildman approach, one because it is sorely needed. A miniscule OS and a script based application environment resting on generalised compiled "plugins" is my idea of the future for computing - I believe we have reached the end of a blind alley with OS development in its current form - the Wildman approach seems to cut through bloat elegantly. Bloat and application quarantine (each app being a world unto itself) seems to me the major issues before the industry. REBOL's business future, and langauge future seems bound into one. Greg Schofield Perth Australia --- Message Received --- From: Carl Read <> To: Reply-To: Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 11:53:06 +1200 Subject: [REBOL] Re: Rebol SDK vs Command On Friday, 14-September-2007 at 12:01:28 Gregg Irwin wrote,
>I'm not sure what products are what anymore,
Which succinctly sums up RT's problems as a 'business'. It doesn't open-source, so REBOL can't become a popular language, and it doesn't do the business basics to make it succeed as closed-source software. -- Carl Read.