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[REBOL] Re: Why not forget about AltMe and Rebolist and use RebolTalk instead???

From: premshree:pillai:gmai:l at: 10-Jan-2005 3:55

On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 17:18:46 -0500, Bernie Schneider <berniegs-prodigy.net> wrote:
> Hi, > > I may have missed something in an earlier part of this > discussion, but I just don't understand why so many are down on > mailing lists. How can something be a "thing of the past"
Folks are testing out GooglGroups now. So those who like the ml format can get mails/reply/post/etc like a normal ml; those who prefer a web interface can do so thro' the website. The group's at http://groups-beta.google.com/group/Rebol
> without there being a "thing of the present/future" to replace > it, in terms of function, reliability and stability? > > I guess I need to be enlightened about what is lacking in the > present ML that makes it so "yesterday". As far as I can see, > this list, along with several others that I subscribe to, works > quite well. I'm getting the posts quickly and reliably right in
How can you be sure you're getting _all_ the posts to your inbox? There are times when I don't get the mails delivered to my inbox even though they've made it to thye DB (http://mail.rebol.net/cgi-bin/mail-list.r).
> my inbox, and I get to reply just as quickly and conveniently. > I'm becoming well informed and I'm staying up to date on Rebol, > thanks to this ML and the enthusiastic and knowledgeable folks > who participate here. The only problem I've had so far was when > I first enrolled in this ML, and that wasn't due to a > malfunction in the ML technology itself, but to a human error of > omission that directed me to a defunct site for this list, an > error that I believe has since been corrected. > > To me, it looks like a case of "If it ain't broke, don't fix > it", at least it doesn't seem to be as broke as some of the > alternative that I've seen discussed. What am I missing here? > Why do I want or need something else? > > Bernie Schneider > > The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being > overwhelmed > by the tribe. To be your own man is a hard business. If you try > it, you will > be lonely often and sometimes frightened. But no price is too > high to pay > for the privilege of owning yourself. > > -- Friedrich Nietzsche -- > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Premshree Pillai" <premshree.pillai-gmail.com> > To: <rebolist-rebol.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 1:39 PM > Subject: [REBOL] Re: Why not forget about AltMe and Rebolist and > use RebolTalk instead??? > > > > > Hi, all, > > > > Mail lists _are_ a thing of the past, agreed -- but somehow I > think > > it's much better than having a forum. My reasons follow: > > > > * Forums are good when you have a small group of people. Sure, > the > > number of REBOL users may not be huge, but REBOL is new, we > need to > > grow it by way of active discussions, marketing, etc. > > * The Rebol-talk forum has way too many discussion topics. > This is > > particularly bad for a person who is relatively new to Rebol. > He might > > end up posting all his queries at the 'newbie' discussion, > when he > > probably could've posted it to a more focussed forum. > > * Another problem with having such web-based forums is that > it's a > > major pain to keep track of all the posts in the forum (they > don't > > have RSS/Atom feeds that one could subscribe to) -- on a > mailing list, > > I can see the subject, then decide whether I want to see the > whole > > post, and stuff like that. > > * The forum -- Invision Power Board -- doesn't have threaded > > discussion. Now, this is _bad_. It's a pain to quote everytime > I want > > to post a reply. > > > > In conclusion I would say that forums are rather immature as a > means > > of discussion for something like REBOL -- something that needs > to > > grow, and has the potential to. > > > > Yes, there have been issues with the ml, but surely > *something* can be > > done about it? > > > > I am all for the mailing list. > > > > On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 10:27:51 -0800, carl-rebol.net > <carl-rebol.net> wrote: > > > This is a very good question, and I'm glad you ask it. I > have also been thinking a lot about it over the last year. > > > > > > First, in defense of AltME: it DID NOT crash. The Linux > hard disk crashed. AltME is an extremely stable and trustworthy > product, even as a 1.0 product. > > > > > > AltME is great for PRIVATE discussions, but what we want to > see (and what new users want to read) are PUBLIC discussions. > > > > > > Please read my public statement about this topic on > http://www.rebol.net/cgi-bin/blog.r?view=0089 > > > > > > Then, let's figure out a solution and make it happen! Maybe > its REBOL Talk, maybe not. I don't know. This is a community. We > need to decide this together. > > > > > > -Carl > > > -- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, just send an email to > rebol-request > > > at rebol.com with unsubscribe as the subject. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Premshree Pillai > > http://www.livejournal.com/~premshree > > -- > > To unsubscribe from the list, just send an email to > rebol-request > > at rebol.com with unsubscribe as the subject. > > > > -- > To unsubscribe from the list, just send an email to rebol-request > at rebol.com with unsubscribe as the subject. >
-- Premshree Pillai http://www.livejournal.com/~premshree