[REBOL] Re: Why not forget about AltMe and Rebolist and use RebolTalk instead???
From: premshree:pillai::gmail at: 10-Jan-2005 3:55
On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 17:18:46 -0500, Bernie Schneider
<berniegs-prodigy.net> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I may have missed something in an earlier part of this
> discussion, but I just don't understand why so many are down on
> mailing lists. How can something be a "thing of the past"
Folks are testing out GooglGroups now. So those who like the ml format
can get mails/reply/post/etc like a normal ml; those who prefer a web
interface can do so thro' the website. The group's at
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/Rebol
> without there being a "thing of the present/future" to replace
> it, in terms of function, reliability and stability?
>
> I guess I need to be enlightened about what is lacking in the
> present ML that makes it so "yesterday". As far as I can see,
> this list, along with several others that I subscribe to, works
> quite well. I'm getting the posts quickly and reliably right in
How can you be sure you're getting _all_ the posts to your inbox?
There are times when I don't get the mails delivered to my inbox even
though they've made it to thye DB
(http://mail.rebol.net/cgi-bin/mail-list.r).
> my inbox, and I get to reply just as quickly and conveniently.
> I'm becoming well informed and I'm staying up to date on Rebol,
> thanks to this ML and the enthusiastic and knowledgeable folks
> who participate here. The only problem I've had so far was when
> I first enrolled in this ML, and that wasn't due to a
> malfunction in the ML technology itself, but to a human error of
> omission that directed me to a defunct site for this list, an
> error that I believe has since been corrected.
>
> To me, it looks like a case of "If it ain't broke, don't fix
> it", at least it doesn't seem to be as broke as some of the
> alternative that I've seen discussed. What am I missing here?
> Why do I want or need something else?
>
> Bernie Schneider
>
> The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being
> overwhelmed
> by the tribe. To be your own man is a hard business. If you try
> it, you will
> be lonely often and sometimes frightened. But no price is too
> high to pay
> for the privilege of owning yourself.
>
> -- Friedrich Nietzsche --
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Premshree Pillai" <premshree.pillai-gmail.com>
> To: <rebolist-rebol.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 1:39 PM
> Subject: [REBOL] Re: Why not forget about AltMe and Rebolist and
> use RebolTalk instead???
>
> >
> > Hi, all,
> >
> > Mail lists _are_ a thing of the past, agreed -- but somehow I
> think
> > it's much better than having a forum. My reasons follow:
> >
> > * Forums are good when you have a small group of people. Sure,
> the
> > number of REBOL users may not be huge, but REBOL is new, we
> need to
> > grow it by way of active discussions, marketing, etc.
> > * The Rebol-talk forum has way too many discussion topics.
> This is
> > particularly bad for a person who is relatively new to Rebol.
> He might
> > end up posting all his queries at the 'newbie' discussion,
> when he
> > probably could've posted it to a more focussed forum.
> > * Another problem with having such web-based forums is that
> it's a
> > major pain to keep track of all the posts in the forum (they
> don't
> > have RSS/Atom feeds that one could subscribe to) -- on a
> mailing list,
> > I can see the subject, then decide whether I want to see the
> whole
> > post, and stuff like that.
> > * The forum -- Invision Power Board -- doesn't have threaded
> > discussion. Now, this is _bad_. It's a pain to quote everytime
> I want
> > to post a reply.
> >
> > In conclusion I would say that forums are rather immature as a
> means
> > of discussion for something like REBOL -- something that needs
> to
> > grow, and has the potential to.
> >
> > Yes, there have been issues with the ml, but surely
> *something* can be
> > done about it?
> >
> > I am all for the mailing list.
> >
> > On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 10:27:51 -0800, carl-rebol.net
> <carl-rebol.net> wrote:
> > > This is a very good question, and I'm glad you ask it. I
> have also been thinking a lot about it over the last year.
> > >
> > > First, in defense of AltME: it DID NOT crash. The Linux
> hard disk crashed. AltME is an extremely stable and trustworthy
> product, even as a 1.0 product.
> > >
> > > AltME is great for PRIVATE discussions, but what we want to
> see (and what new users want to read) are PUBLIC discussions.
> > >
> > > Please read my public statement about this topic on
> http://www.rebol.net/cgi-bin/blog.r?view=0089
> > >
> > > Then, let's figure out a solution and make it happen! Maybe
> its REBOL Talk, maybe not. I don't know. This is a community. We
> need to decide this together.
> > >
> > > -Carl
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> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Premshree Pillai
> > http://www.livejournal.com/~premshree
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