[REBOL] Re: Why not forget about AltMe and Rebolist and use RebolTalk instead???
From: berniegs:prodigy at: 9-Jan-2005 17:18
Hi,
I may have missed something in an earlier part of this
discussion, but I just don't understand why so many are down on
mailing lists. How can something be a "thing of the past"
without there being a "thing of the present/future" to replace
it, in terms of function, reliability and stability?
I guess I need to be enlightened about what is lacking in the
present ML that makes it so "yesterday". As far as I can see,
this list, along with several others that I subscribe to, works
quite well. I'm getting the posts quickly and reliably right in
my inbox, and I get to reply just as quickly and conveniently.
I'm becoming well informed and I'm staying up to date on Rebol,
thanks to this ML and the enthusiastic and knowledgeable folks
who participate here. The only problem I've had so far was when
I first enrolled in this ML, and that wasn't due to a
malfunction in the ML technology itself, but to a human error of
omission that directed me to a defunct site for this list, an
error that I believe has since been corrected.
To me, it looks like a case of "If it ain't broke, don't fix
it", at least it doesn't seem to be as broke as some of the
alternative that I've seen discussed. What am I missing here?
Why do I want or need something else?
Bernie Schneider
The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being
overwhelmed
by the tribe. To be your own man is a hard business. If you try
it, you will
be lonely often and sometimes frightened. But no price is too
high to pay
for the privilege of owning yourself.
-- Friedrich Nietzsche --
----- Original Message -----
From: "Premshree Pillai" <[premshree--pillai--gmail--com]>
To: <[rebolist--rebol--com]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 1:39 PM
Subject: [REBOL] Re: Why not forget about AltMe and Rebolist and
use RebolTalk instead???
> Hi, all,
>
> Mail lists _are_ a thing of the past, agreed -- but somehow I
think
> it's much better than having a forum. My reasons follow:
>
> * Forums are good when you have a small group of people. Sure,
the
> number of REBOL users may not be huge, but REBOL is new, we
need to
> grow it by way of active discussions, marketing, etc.
> * The Rebol-talk forum has way too many discussion topics.
This is
> particularly bad for a person who is relatively new to Rebol.
He might
> end up posting all his queries at the 'newbie' discussion,
when he
> probably could've posted it to a more focussed forum.
> * Another problem with having such web-based forums is that
it's a
> major pain to keep track of all the posts in the forum (they
don't
> have RSS/Atom feeds that one could subscribe to) -- on a
mailing list,
> I can see the subject, then decide whether I want to see the
whole
> post, and stuff like that.
> * The forum -- Invision Power Board -- doesn't have threaded
> discussion. Now, this is _bad_. It's a pain to quote everytime
I want
> to post a reply.
>
> In conclusion I would say that forums are rather immature as a
means
> of discussion for something like REBOL -- something that needs
to
> grow, and has the potential to.
>
> Yes, there have been issues with the ml, but surely
*something* can be
> done about it?
>
> I am all for the mailing list.
>
> On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 10:27:51 -0800, [carl--rebol--net]
<[carl--rebol--net]> wrote:
> > This is a very good question, and I'm glad you ask it. I
have also been thinking a lot about it over the last year.
> >
> > First, in defense of AltME: it DID NOT crash. The Linux
hard disk crashed. AltME is an extremely stable and trustworthy
product, even as a 1.0 product.
> >
> > AltME is great for PRIVATE discussions, but what we want to
see (and what new users want to read) are PUBLIC discussions.
> >
> > Please read my public statement about this topic on
http://www.rebol.net/cgi-bin/blog.r?view=0089
> >
> > Then, let's figure out a solution and make it happen! Maybe
its REBOL Talk, maybe not. I don't know. This is a community. We
need to decide this together.
