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[REBOL] Re: Teaching Rebol => was:{Re: Re: Parsing comment}

From: tim:johnsons-web at: 26-Sep-2002 7:49

Hello Jason: * Jason Cunliffe <[jason--cunliffe--verizon--net]> [020926 03:59]:
> Hi Tim > > > Despite the comments about documentation I think that > > rebol's help function is very accomodating for a new > > programming student. > > (and BTW I am also teaching python in a similar fashion) > > just try typing "help split" at the python prompt and see what > > you get. > > Yes that was precisely the initial point I made to Python Edu-Sig. > They tried to show me sophisticated Python help is. And of course it is. > My point was how direct and freindly rebol's help is, largely becuae it bundles > a search function. > > I'd like to hear more about your Rebol teaching experiences... > What age?
Eighth grade through senior.
> What kind of stuff you do?
Intro basics, but finishes with ftp email and cgi
> ..students reactions.
Completion is a problem...
> Do they use their programs together?
No. Not so far
> What probelms do they have?
Did I say that this is an online class? Anyway, that's really the main obstacle, how to proctor a motivate without physical presense.
> Is this their first prgarmmnig experience?
It is designed as a first programming class, but some students have had html, a little C++
> What is easy?
Teaching the class .... no commuting :-)
> What is hard?
Motivating them.
> What sort of materials you'd like to see to help your efforts?
I've considered a couple of things: 1)A tutor program like TCL uses. 2)Some simple chat bot routines But they are simple add-ons. The main issues really aren't specific to rebol. They are a factor of what is (to us here) a new medium.
> > But seriously, rebol is a very good first programming language. > > The absense of systems calls in rebol/core is a good thing. > > I don't have to have the student's parents sign one of those > > "If you broke it with your program it ain't our fault" kind > > of contract/disclaimers, as we are doing with python, perl and > > C. > > Thanks. A good point.
And to tell the truth, certain sysops and ISPs like that feature too....
> ^ > > SyntaxError: invalid syntax > > !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > yep I know the feeling. > > thanks > ./Jason > > -- > To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to > [rebol-request--rebol--com] with "unsubscribe" in the > subject, without the quotes.
-- Tim Johnson <[tim--johnsons-web--com]>