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[REBOL] Re: Articles Introduction to Water™ A New Native We

From: robert:muench:robertmuench at: 30-Aug-2002 12:21

> -----Original Message----- > From: [rebol-bounce--rebol--com] [mailto:[rebol-bounce--rebol--com]] > On Behalf Of Gerard Cote > Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 8:08 PM > To: [rebol-list--rebol--com] > Subject: [REBOL] Re: Articles Introduction to > WaterT A New Native Web Services > Not much answers to the former invitation, regarding a > collective work to create an Extensible REBOL Development > Framework ;-( > Summer must be a thing of the past or is it a sign of time ???
Hi, might be the message was to cryptic... I didn't got in the first reading. Well, I'm working on a rebol-framework just now. It includes the ideas of associative data model, nakedobjects ideas etc. I have an idea about the GUI already, I have the basic building blocks running.
> May be someone could even suggest a bad solution - a first > draft in other words - just to be enhanced by the other > members of this ML. I would do it but I am surely not > qualified enough for this kind of work but I can help recrute > and support for the job while it is done.
I have a first draft. But I'm not sure if releasing it makes a lot of sense at the moment. I'm an absolute fan of community development, but there are two sides of it: 1. I need to make progress as I don't want to work on a never ending project. I concentrate on doable ideas etc. Vision is good, but reality needs a solution. 2. Getting the same understanding and agreement about how to continue etc. is mostly impossible in a community process. This leads to the danger of forks for the different concepts. IMO this is the worst thing that can happen, we need to work on one framework. Therefore I think it might be better to develop the idea up to a useable level and release it than. I'm hoping that enough of the community will jump on and follow this direction than... I don't know if it will happen, we will see.
> Who else want to be > a part time coordinator/and/or collaborator for this task and > help start this project - nobody has to start or finish it > alone but someone must be in charge for the first draft on > which we'll work after ??
I can do this. But I can't spend a lot of time etc. We have a trainee that will start to program some script for me in Rebol. But he will need some time to ramp-up and doing framework development won't be his job in the next month. He can test etc. But not more.
> If you want to get some quick look at these other interesting > concepts that have been applied elsewhere to help developers > to deliver some nice and productive work, and the kind of > tools that their producers gave to the whole World by letting > them fall into the hands of "Content producers" after the > Frameworks were up and running here are some refs :
Thanks for the info. Robert