[REBOL] Re: InformIT.com Articles Introduction to Water™ A New Native We
From: robert:muench:robertmuench at: 30-Aug-2002 12:21
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> Subject: [REBOL] Re: InformIT.com Articles Introduction to
> WaterT A New Native Web Services
> Not much answers to the former invitation, regarding a
> collective work to create an Extensible REBOL Development
> Framework ;-(
> Summer must be a thing of the past or is it a sign of time ???
Hi, might be the message was to cryptic... I didn't got in the first
reading. Well, I'm working on a rebol-framework just now. It includes
the ideas of associative data model, nakedobjects ideas etc. I have an
idea about the GUI already, I have the basic building blocks running.
> May be someone could even suggest a bad solution - a first
> draft in other words - just to be enhanced by the other
> members of this ML. I would do it but I am surely not
> qualified enough for this kind of work but I can help recrute
> and support for the job while it is done.
I have a first draft. But I'm not sure if releasing it makes a lot of
sense at the moment. I'm an absolute fan of community development, but
there are two sides of it:
1. I need to make progress as I don't want to work on a never ending
project. I concentrate on doable ideas etc. Vision is good, but reality
needs a solution.
2. Getting the same understanding and agreement about how to continue
etc. is mostly impossible in a community process. This leads to the
danger of forks for the different concepts. IMO this is the worst thing
that can happen, we need to work on one framework.
Therefore I think it might be better to develop the idea up to a useable
level and release it than. I'm hoping that enough of the community will
jump on and follow this direction than... I don't know if it will
happen, we will see.
> Who else want to be
> a part time coordinator/and/or collaborator for this task and
> help start this project - nobody has to start or finish it
> alone but someone must be in charge for the first draft on
> which we'll work after ??
I can do this. But I can't spend a lot of time etc. We have a trainee
that will start to program some script for me in Rebol. But he will need
some time to ramp-up and doing framework development won't be his job in
the next month. He can test etc. But not more.
> If you want to get some quick look at these other interesting
> concepts that have been applied elsewhere to help developers
> to deliver some nice and productive work, and the kind of
> tools that their producers gave to the whole World by letting
> them fall into the hands of "Content producers" after the
> Frameworks were up and running here are some refs :
Thanks for the info. Robert