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From: gerardcote:sympatico:ca at: 29-Aug-2002 14:07

Hi Rebolers, Not much answers to the former invitation, regarding a collective work to create an Extensible REBOL Development Framework ;-( - Summer must be a thing of the past or is it a sign of time ??? So how about a follow-on to the "naked objects" (http://nakedobjects.org) concept introduced here by Andrew a few day ago. To get a quick and dirty sense of all this - download the draft-book.pdf (Only 104 KB). Seems to me it's a Nice approach - return to the source - but with a new twist this time . Read-on to know more about it !!! All or part of this and/or other paradigms (I introduce some others below...) could/should be used as a basis ( or simply let them be our inspiring MUSES !!! if we can't find them any other utility ;-))) for helping our community to set a DEV FRAMEWORK standard and may be develop together our own Extensible REBOL Dev Framework (could be dubbed the ERF - not really an Elf but very close to it, isn't it? ;-))) May be someone could even suggest a bad solution - a first draft in other words - just to be enhanced by the other members of this ML. I would do it but I am surely not qualified enough for this kind of work but I can help recrute and support for the job while it is done. Who else want to be a part time coordinator/and/or collaborator for this task and help start this project - nobody has to start or finish it alone but someone must be in charge for the first draft on which we'll work after ?? Just for helping everybody to gear-up with this proposition, here are some more related ideas ... If you want to get some quick look at these other interesting concepts that have been applied elsewhere to help developers to deliver some nice and productive work, and the kind of tools that their producers gave to the whole World by letting them fall into the hands of "Content producers" after the Frameworks were up and running here are some refs : (Note that most of these products originate from some EDUCATIONAL need! and for the most part - the final "components" that are produced by the programmers are to be used by end-users and they must just PLUG-IN together like puzzle parts - this is precisely the metaphor used by the E-slate team- virtual puzzle pieces are worked with during the process of assembling software components together!) Name of the product or technology (Web link) =============================== E-slate (http://e-slate.cti.gr/Overview.htm) Don't miss the sections : Microworlds, Components and Developers Educational Object economy (alias eoe) http://www.eoe.org/foundation/projects.htm Look for the ESCOT project description GOE (http://goe.eoe.org/FMPro?-db=null.fp5&-format=goe/GOE_home.htm&-view) Get some look at a toolkit named GOE Educational Software components of Tomorrow (alias ESCOT) http://www.escot.org/resources/components/overview.html The same one I refered above : like a kind of toolbox we can hope to be able to develop easier using REBOL and its future Dev Framework ;-) SIMCALC (http://tango.mth.umassd.edu/) or http://www.simcalc.umassd.edu/NewWebsite/simcalcframe.html The Technology section at http://www.simcalc.umassd.edu/NewWebsite/software.html ============================================== A list of other tools of interest to EDUCATION aware ppl is referenced below for your convenience. It come from the RESOURCES section of the E-SLATE web site : Seems like I already saw some of them from my own searching ... Some are of great value ! Believe me... ============================================== AgentSheets (http://www.agentsheets.com/) Java Sketchpad (http://forum.swarthmore.edu/dynamic/java_gsp/index.html) Turtle Tracks (http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/~dazuma/turtle/index.html ) Comspec (http://www.oslo.sintef.no/comspec/ ) COLIDE (http://collide.informatik.uni-duisburg.de/ ) Inteligent Pad (http://www.pads.or.jp/english/index.html ) Exploratory project (http://www.pads.or.jp/english/index.html ) Hope it will shake-up some of us - me being the first on the list - whatever TO BE or NOT TO BE is done with this DEV Framework project I am submitting for adoption ;-) Regards, Gerard