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[REBOL] Re: RFC: Forms generator / RAD dialect

From: robert:muench:robertmuench at: 22-Aug-2002 9:40

> -----Original Message----- > From: [rebol-bounce--rebol--com] [mailto:[rebol-bounce--rebol--com]] > On Behalf Of Gabriele Santilli > Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 3:13 AM > To: Robert M. Muench > Subject: [REBOL] Re: RFC: Forms generator / RAD dialect > Mmm, looks like dbgui-wizard.r. :-)
Hi, never looked at it yet. I'll have to check out. Where can I find this script?
> It actually does better, by handling object-to-gui and > gui-to-object translation, and a few other things. > (When you insert a record in the db, any browser that shows > that table etc is refreshed to chow the new record, and so on.)
Ok, I see. This implies that you use a database in the background. I have thought about a concept to describe a data model that fits smoothly into such a dialect. Further the representation model of the data and the storage used should be customizable. I have come up with a very generic concept how to handle this. But it's not perfect yet, I still need some time and first have to test some prototypes.
> But I'm going further; there's some > chance I'll release, by the end of this week, a very > preliminary version of Road (Rapid data Oriented > Application Development), an IDE designed to automatically > create RDBMS-based applications.
This sounds interesting. Especially I will focus on the dialect and the concepts first and (maybe) later think about a GUI editor for this. I hope other will take the plunge and do it ;-))
> I warn you that this > preliminary version is not that great, and is not much > automatic, but it is a start. I'm not sure if it will be > useful to release it publicly, or wait for something more > usable first.
Golden rule of open-source software: Release early, release often ;-))
> (The final goal is to write a piece of software that, > given relational schema and some additional information --- > such as help text for the user, and so on --- will > create a REBOL or PHP application to browse-insert-modify the > data in that DB. I'm doing this for my degree too.)
Ok, I have done such a thing with JavaScript and PHP. We have made a complete framework. We even had some basic concepts from IOS, server callable functions etc. There was a framework debugger running on the client, that was implemented in JavaScript. Very cool! But my friend and I recognized that we reached the limit of what can be done with such a concept and the available web technology. That's why he had a deeper look into Curl and I into Rebol ;-)). And we now just start to think about a new version but this time with the better technology base. Robert