[REBOL] Re: IOS and presentations with Audio
From: gscottjones:mchsi at: 23-Oct-2002 8:02
> G. Scott Jones wrote:
> >As always, I find your comments interesting and evocative.
From: "Petr Krenzelok"
> or provokative? :-)
Now that you mention it, both. I used the word evocative mainly because the
response is more emotional. Provocative means to me generating a response
of any nature. Your interesting comments tend to evoke an emotional
response, but I don't feel provoked to respond in writing very often,
because misunderstandings can so easily occur, especially in the casual
writing style typical of e-mail mailing lists. And, this very issue reminds
me that I should have written more carefully because of the international
flavor of the list. :-)
I am being complimentary and sincere when I say that your comments and
criticisms are interesting and both provocative and evocative. What seems
to be lacking sometimes is the demonstration of compassion for the position
that RT is in. This may be due to language issues or just a personal style.
Personally, *I know* that you care very deeply about the fate/future of RT
and REBOL, so I tend to set aside some of the more negative emotions that
your comments sometimes evoke. I truly know that you mean well, so it is
easy to do. If a newcomer were to say some of the same things, I would tend
to see it as more of an outright attack. But, as far as I can tell, you
have been around from the beginning of the REBOLution, and you genuinely
seem to care.
SJ> > that spurred me to comment. (After all, you
SJ> > complained on Link that people don't respond
SJ> > enough to your comment, making you look like
SJ> > you are alone. So here I am! :-)
PK> Yes, but I complained from the different POV.
PK> Ppl here feel, that situation with rebol is strange,
PK> that RT is mostly not communicating with ml,
PK> there are no new official releases for far too long,
PK> no proper answers from feedback, no development
PK> roadmap, etc. etc. So I sometimes expressed my
PK> opinion, but only very few of you supported me. So
PK> in RT's eyes it could be translated as "Ah, Petr
PK> complaining once again, nothing new", while OTOH
PK> the problem was felt similarly by many of us here ...
I can see your point, and I can understand why you feel this way. It is a
bit hazardous to make assumptions about *why* people do or do not chime in.
Again, it may be more of a matter of personal style and/or reservations
about using this medium we call e-mail. People on this list seem unusually
courteous and respectful. To me, this is a "Good Thing." The flip side is
that people may seem complacent. Perhaps so. Or perhaps they are exerting
influence through a different style, one that is more subtle almost to the
point of not being obvious. The samurai is almost always visible and
obvious, but the Budhist monk can be very subtle and may fade into the
background. I have done the samurai act a few times in my career, and I
have lived to regret it. It hasn't worked for me. I think some people have
the charisma to use this method very effectively.
PK> PS: you should apply for RT's position of Marketing
PK> director ... you write and explain things so nicely, without
PK> the hype :-)
Thank you, Petr, that is a very nice thing to say.