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[REBOL] Re: OT, was Re: What's Native

From: g:santilli:tiscalinet:it at: 24-Jun-2004 15:19

Hi Petr, On Thursday, June 24, 2004, 12:49:01 PM, you wrote: PK> I am not so sure. Things start to slow down when parsing protocols. All PK> those html, xhml, whatever-ml :-) REBOL wouldn't be slower than anything else. Parsing is not the bottleneck at all... PK> We don't have SINGLE 100% compliant PK> parser of higher protocols in rebol, so .... ;-) Did anyone need it? :-) I needed a simple xhtml parser for Temple and I did it. It's a few lines of code. It works well enough for my needs. If you need more, you're free to enhance it or write your own... PK> What about PK> certificates? Even Command can't import them - every browser/mailer can ... I think this was just left out because it wasn't needed at the moment. After all, SSL was mainly needed for HTTPS. Having a more complete SSL implementation would be nice, but has nothing to do with the language itself. PK> Simply put - Rebol kernels slept for way too long time and with new PK> strategy coming from RT you can bet on pekr asking for strenghtening PK> those universal engines, I simply don't want to see RT working in PK> mezzanine level - that can be done by community members like you, PK> Romano, Doc, Cyphre, Ladislav, Gregg and others who produce high level PK> quality code. RT should really open Rebol kernels by implementing things PK> like full VM or at least area-specific VMs (like draw dialect is), PK> finish proposed language components, think of full async modes PK> (including console) or even threading etc. I think the main "problem" for REBOL is that it wasn't really meant to be a general programming language, Carl didn't probably want to write web browsers or business applications with it. But these are mainly implementation issues. The language itself is general enough, much more general than most languages. So the discussion is no more if REBOL would be good for doing these things, but what the priority if for RT to implement the necessary native features, if they fit the vision and so on. The question is not if we can write something like Mozilla, the question is, should we? Regards, Gabriele. -- Gabriele Santilli <[g--santilli--tiscalinet--it]> -- REBOL Programmer Amiga Group Italia sez. L'Aquila --- SOON: