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I don't know what you mean by that. A library or library-binding 
that is interesting to me? Okay let's say I find it important to 
use Red as I do with REBOL on my Apache driven website (no option 
to choose the server with my webhostingservice) to process rebol 
scripts and rsp scripts. I think there is a world of Red users to 
be won if Red could do this, at least we would be able to run Red/Redsp 
scripts on the apacheservers potential customers will have their 
websites hosted on, if you still can follow, they may not be too 
enthousiast changing websitehosting services only because we have 
some fun Rebol/Red scripting to offer. So where would I start?

Really nice website (red-lang.org) by the way.

The website needs an introduction/instruction section and a downloadlink 
to a zipped version of Red souces, so people can skip the github 
stuff.

Arnold: Red source zip links are on github since the beginning. Maybe 
you can write such presentation/instruction section, submit it in 
a gist, put the link here and on the Red ML, discuss with others, 
and when it's ready send it to me so I can review and publish it. 
I need to advance on Red construction rapidly now, so the website 
is currently lower priority to me.

Guys, remember the project current version number: v0.2.6, this is 
far from a v1.0.0, don't expect the website to look like if the product 
was finished. Maybe I should add an old-fashion "Under Construction" 
yellow gif banner on top of it? ;-)

Thanks for thinking about me, Nick. I'll refrain from asking for 
donations until Doc is in a good position, then I'll set up a website 
for the bindings to give sponsors a chance to influence my priorities

My own website is done with Cheyenne and the HTML dialect and is 
very easy for me to maintain: Makedoc files are rendered on the fly 
to each webpage. I can SSH to the server and edit files as I please 
and there is nearly zero HTML involved.


Granted, there is no blog or comments section, but is another example 
of how a small toolchain (one Cheyenne executable and a few script 
files) can be used to build a good website.

Thanks. A website is planned, but I haven't gotten around to it yet. 
I figure the time is better spent doing Red work

What I see as a first possible step is have a kind of Red website 
hosting where websites can be hosted using Red (cheyenne server) 
and a database behind it (MySQL or SQLite) and a possibility for 
digital payments (such a module could be additionally payed and kept 
'closed' source). This could obviously generate a modest cashflow.
There would be needed books etc.

There's not so many buttons on Github page ;-) But maybe Doc could 
add above link pointing to latest archive directly to his site, would 
make things for beginners easier. Well, looking at red website I 
now find it also a mistake not having download section ...

I believe redoing the website is on the list of things to do ...

Gregg - the ONLY thing which is really needed, is to add Download 
section to the Red website, pointing to the ZIP button of the Github 
website. That's for those who are not familiar with Git, or to whom 
the Git creates a headache to use. So - is adding one URL to a website 
so much of a challenge?

Looking at http://www.red-lang.org/p/contributions.htmlit seems 
to me, that Red has more bindings, than for R2 + R3 combined :-) 
Maybe just an impression, as I miss such a conscise list on rebol.com 
website ....

I'll be setting up a website for them later

FB has component to display news, twitter too. As for FB, I would 
not put it into your website, but maybe twitter could be corrected

It is that ppl outside of here can't know ... Well, many ppl will 
go via offical website and its contributions section. Maybe the script 
could be mentioned there, dunno. OTOH most of the bindings are listed 
there, so maybe there's no need to do so ...

I've also explained a number of times that I will make a central 
website for Red, but that I have been too busy so far with doing 
actual Red work

I wish it would be enough to state my position once. I know how others 
think about it. I'm making improvements all the time, but I haven't 
had time for a central website yet. Is that so hard to accept?

Half a year ago people complained about the Fossil websites, so I 
developed the download script for them. That will have to do for 
now. I'm sure that when I make the website, people will want something 
else again

I think that people will stop complaining when everything Fossil-related 
is gone (extremly confusing website, dependency, ...).

The central website is planned to become the index page. Until then, 
the index is in the download.r

The tests evaluated here are based on the Perl string related features 
which appear on the Perl Cookbook (pleac website).

Today I have put version 1.0.0 of the 10x10 checkers (damspel) out. 
The script on rebol.org points to the download location on my website 
(because it is a package of scripts more than a single script)
You can find it on http://arnoldvanhofwegen.com/stuff/damgame.zip

Please put in your agenda the weekend of saturday the 26th and sunday 
the 27th of january. Then we will have the DevCon 2013 in De War 
'Place for Pioneers' in Amersfoort, the Netherlands. This year we 
will combine the Syllable Winter Conference with the DevCon, Conference 
for the REBOL Programming Language Family, as they have much overlap. 
Presentations will be done by Nenad Rakocevic and Kaj de Vos. We 
are open to other guest speakers and presentations? Entrance is free, 
but donations are very much appreciated. Keep an eye on this website:
http://devcon.esperconsultancy.nl/(will be updated soon)
and this Twitter-account:
https://twitter.com/devc0n

It is easily reachable by airplane (Schiphol, Amsterdam Airport) 
and by international trains. 

It's an old matches factory marked 'Spullenmannen', which is now 
being used by artists.

DE WAR


DE WAR is a breeding ground for art, technology and sustainability 
in Amersfoort, and is host to  a wide range of activities. Since 
2002 the Spullenlab has been the headquarters of Spullenmannen, an 
artists\u2019 collective making theatre, installations, visual art, 
and purposeless contraptions. A  shared office space was set up in 
2006, with different working places, a meeting room, and other facilities 
shared by a number of cultural enterpreneurs. The OpenTOKO workshops 
started in 2008, as a series of \u2019open knowledge\u2019 workshops 
on the connection between art and technology. Since 2010, DE WAR 
has also been housing FabLab Amersfoort, TransitieLab, and Studium 
Generale Amersfoort.  Moreover, a performing space for small theatre 
productions has been set up in 2011.


DE WAR has been established in the old match factory on the river 
Eem.  The factory complex dating back in 1881 has, besides from other 
activities, operated as a production facility of the Dutch colour 
dye industry, and is also known by the name of its last owner, Warner 
Jenkinson. Nowadays owned by the municipality of Amersfoort,  the 
factory complex faces an uncertain future, either to be demolished 
or to be renovated. Besides DE WAR several other offices and ateliers 
are housed within the same factory complex.


DE WAR is initiative  of PLAN B, at the address KLEINE KOPPEL 40, 
3812 PH in Amersfoort,

I'm happy to announce a website for downloads of (unofficial) Rebol 
3 executables:

http://www.rebolsource.net/


Currently, binaries for Linux, OSX, and Win32 are created fully automatically, 
from Carl's latest R3 sources. So whenever Carl updates his Github 
repository, those binaries will be updated automatically (typically 
within ~10 minutes) as well.

Maybe they said some other name of code then. Thought it was Python. 
Is it not on the website anywhere?

well, with the basic build farm in place and the website launched, 
i'll maybe get to some more build process revisions (including debug 
builds) soon.

And it's just a S3 bucket confiured as a website which keeps my costs 
down.

Some conversion bridges, simple stuff - pullind data from multiple 
systems, generating excel files (via html) for customers, website 
generation to intranet, automated notifications, etc.

Also docs are not working from the Saphirion website, links throw 
some svn error. Maybe it should be pointed to github docs?

Hmm.  I was asked to setup a brand new laptop with windows 8 today. 
 Cousin needs Office 360  so I click on the install which takes me 
to website.  I enroll him into windows live and start the installation. 
 Which then fails 5x .. brand new latop.  system restore and uninstall. 
 WTF!

Thank you all for addressing my concerns and for your answers about 
my first coding question.


Ahh.. rejoin. Reading up on it makes me better understand how some 
things are to be done in Rebol.

 Continuing to the final goal...


I have to extract an email address from a GET transfer. The methoed 
of sending the info to me is completely out of my control. An email 
address will be entered into a form on a website not controled by 
me. GET methoed will send the data to my script. The people who created 
the form on the external site advised that they label the email address 
as "trnEmailAddress".


 So now I want to see if I am correct in thinking how to extract and 
 use the email address. Will using the decode a cgi form command (I 
 know they are not commands in the tradiational sense)  work. How 
 does it work, does it create variables out of the GET (or Post when 
 using Post, but I am forced to recieve the info via GET) stream?


The GET stream in my case will include "&trnEmailAddress=person%40example%2Ecom. 
So can I do this?

decode-cgi system/options/cgi/query-string

send trnEmailAddress "Thank you. Rest of message." 

Thanks for your help.

One of the few advantages of R3 is processing Unicode. It fixed the 
Russian Syllable website

I meant system. exec didn't work. I still prefer system above passthru. 
I have integrated my first REBOL module within my website. I needed 
to add a cookie section to obey the new cookie law anyway. I even 
used a REBOL script to generate all cookie pictures to the same size 
and png format.

so i copied the files over to a new directory, then when i try
>> do %uni-engine.r
>> uniserve/boot
...i get a bunch of errors saying cheyenne is not defined


using the old (0.99) sources on the softinnov website, i can use 
the starter.r script just fine. However, i set up a simple service 
and a module to process tasks, but get:

** Script Error: Cannot use path on none! value
** Where: process-task
** Near: if shared/pool-max > shared/pool-count [
    fork
    if verbose > 0 [log/info "launching new process"]
]

#! /usr/bin/env r2
REBOL []

here: what-dir

program: dirize clean-path here/../../../cms/files/program/PowerMezz

do program/mezz/module.r

load-module/from program

module [
	imports: [
		%mezz/trees.r
		%mezz/load-html.r
		%mezz/html-to-text.r
	]
][
;	print mold-tree load-html read http://osslo.nl/leveranciers

	make-dir %data

	for id 1 169 1 [
		print id

  page: load-html read join http://osslo.nl/leveranciers?mod=organization&id=
  id


  content: get-node page/childs/html/childs/body/childs/div/childs/3/childs/2

		body: get-node content/childs/table/childs/tbody
;		print form-html/with body [pretty?: yes]
;		print mold-tree body

;		item: get-node body/childs/10/childs/2
;		print form-html/with item [pretty?: yes]
;		print mold-tree item
;		print mold item

		record: copy ""
		short-name: name: none

		unless get-node body/childs/tr/childs/th [  ; Missing record
			foreach item get-node body/childs [

    switch/default type: trim get-node item/childs/td/childs/text/prop/value 
    [
					"Logo:" [

;						if all [get-node item/childs/2/childs/1  get-node item/childs/2/childs/1/childs/1] 
[
;							repend record

;								['icon tab tab tab tab		get-node item/childs/2/childs/a/childs/img/prop/src 
 newline]
;						]
					]
					"Naam:" [
						if get-node item/childs/2/childs/1 [
							repend record

        ['name tab tab tab tab		name: trim/lines html-to-text get-node item/childs/2/childs/text/prop/value 
         newline]
						]
					]
...					"Adres:" [

      unless empty? trim/lines html-to-text form-html/with get-node item/childs/2 
      [pretty?: yes] [
							street: get-node item/childs/2/childs/1/prop/value
							place: get-node item/childs/2/childs/3/prop/value

							number: next find/last street #" "
							street: trim/lines html-to-text copy/part street number

							unless empty? street [
								repend record ['street tab tab tab tab	street newline]
							]
							unless empty? number [
								repend record ['number tab tab tab tab	number newline]
							]
							unless place/1 = #" " [
								where: find  skip place 5  #" "

        repend record ['postal-code tab tab tab	copy/part place where  newline]

								place: where
							]
							unless empty? place: trim/lines html-to-text place [
								repend record ['place tab tab tab tab 	place newline]
							]
						]
					]
					"Telefoon:" [

      unless #{C2} = to-binary trim/lines html-to-text form-html/with get-node 
      item/childs/2 [pretty?: yes] [
							repend record

        ['phones tab tab tab tab	trim get-node item/childs/2/childs/text/prop/value 
         newline]
						]
					]
					"Website:" [

      if all [get-node item/childs/2/childs/1  get-node item/childs/2/childs/1/childs/1] 
      [
							repend record

        ['websites tab tab tab		trim get-node item/childs/2/childs/a/childs/text/prop/value 
         newline]
						]
					]
					"E-mail:" [

      if all [get-node item/childs/2/childs/1  get-node item/childs/2/childs/1/childs/1] 
      [
							repend record

        ['mail-addresses tab tab	trim/all get-node item/childs/2/childs/a/childs/text/prop/value 
         newline]
						]
					]
					"Profiel:" [

      unless #{C2} = to-binary trim/lines html-to-text form-html/with get-node 
      item/childs/2 [pretty?: yes] [
							repend record [
								'description newline
									tab replace/all

          trim html-to-text form-html/with get-node item/childs/2 [pretty?: 
          yes]
										"^/" "^/^-"
									newline
							]
						]
					]
				][
					print ["Onbekend veld: " type]
				]
			]
			write rejoin [%data/
				replace/all replace/all replace/all any [short-name name]
					#" " #"-"
					#"/" #"-"
					#"." ""
				%.txt
			] record
		]
	]
]

Hello, all.


 Back in May I was here asking for lots of help in creating a simple 
 CGI script in REBOL. Wanted to say thanks. It was most appreciated, 
 especially considering how rarely you get new people my questions 
 must have seemed so simple to the point of boring the crap out of 
 all of you hardcore experts. My regular job has insane hours and 
 months pass by in what seems like minutes. The person I was doing 
 it for suddenly had other things come up on his website and business 
 that required attention first so it fell by the wayside. I intend 
 to pick it up where I left off this week during an evening when I 
 have more time. While I had a few minutes I had to send my thanks.


 And I see REBOL might become open source... good to see it  moving 
 forward instead of stagnating.

Does anyone know where I can find the '%gui.r' in the 'do %gui.r' 
line of this program?

http://reb4.me/r/arrow-RebGUI-port


I have searched Christopher Ross-Gill's website and don't see it 
or where to find it.

Sujoy.....Link to Devcon 2007 videos.   Link is below, but you'll 
need a logon to the website. Someone else here will be able to advise 
you on that:

   https://www.prolific.com/quilt.fcgi#files?project=619&folder=2558

I want to change some data in a mysql database from a REBOL (2) program 
using DocKimbel's mysql-portocol.r When I use a .r script from my 
website I can connect to the database. I figured that when I ran 
a script from a console I would be able to quickly test my script 
but somehow I am stopped because the script cannot connect. This 
is the error:
** Access Error: Cannot connect to mysql-01.yourname.nl
** Where: open-proto
** Near:
Any ideas?

Got an answer from the provider. connection not from the website 
are blocked for safetyreasons. Only reachable by scripts on the website. 
The "admin" user for adjusting tables etc is not the admin user for 
granting access etc to users.

I am now going to experiment with interacting with a script on the 
website that can do what I want remotely. Talking about safety risks 
:)

aha, I hoped he meant that :) , but I only found 1.2.1 on your website

I'll schedule it for the next days, then. Maybe as an incrowd download 
first; writing articles and updating the website is a large part 
of the work

Yes, we track number of worlds, this is reflected on the website.

Yeah, it is on the list, I call it the Knock Knock feature.  The 
way it works is people can actually sign up before even getting into 
AltME from a website if they want.

On your website Romano?

Yes, I was hoping a yound webdesigner (kid) was available to give 
some suggestions.  He is really outstanding at webdesign.  Hoping 
to get some input from him as I seen him transform some website will 
some good insight.

The length is as shown in the website, but the file downloaded starts 
with some html, so I guess that some other part is missing.

Sunanda, I agree with Allen. The main reason I go to rebol.org is 
to search for scripts. May I also repeat that I think it's great 
that you're maintaining this website and that the search function 
is there to start with.

REBOLCentral is now nearly five months old as a project,

  it would be best to not connect the date someone begins talking about 
  something with when the "project began."


Separate than this specific example, I notice this comes up a lot. 
 I guess phrases like "Bob has been talking about fixing that for 
years now" just seem very odd to me.  Unless Bob himself set the 
end date….or start date.


Anyway…funny enough, we were just talking this week about what off 
the shelf tools we plan to use for RebolCentral.  Over the past 5 
months, we built a non-profit wonderfully successful website for 
another cause that has generated great usage and created a sense 
of community.  Now that it is pretty stable, we will be moving on 
to RC.

The first stage of having community links at REBOL.org would be meaningful 
content in personal pages.

We could the time them together or pull out highlights to make some 
overview pages.


If someone wants their website (etc linked to from REBOL.org), the 
first move is up to them.

so MAKE ME A FANCE BLINKING  WIDE  BUTTON ON THE MIDDLE OF MY PAGE 
AND BE SHORT NAME IT "UPLOAD A SCRIPT" !!! Focus on those 2 points 
and i will use rebol.org waaaaaaaaaaay much more. If you want to 
go crazy fancy and make it super cool you can add a picture + text 
describtion  for the GUI based script... Those are the details that 
separate a boring website noone use and a super website use widely 
!!

What is the main information I want people to get their eye ball 
catch on ?  this is what lead most of the commercial website now 
in day ... Just apply that pleaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaase !!!!

Don't you see that all the terrific information and all the effort 
to link things up is broken because of the  sad and sorry way to 
show things ? If Carl really want this boring website which won't 
surprise me since he can't  understand we changed century and that 
eye candy is the first thing then verywell do a side set of page 
with Eye candy modern rebol.org and put a borring  text button on 
your main page. Something like "If your are not an elite snobe click 
here this version of our website is for you"

maxim that's too easy to say that sunanda runs the things alone and 
that's the reason why rebol.org sucks ... when did sunanda call for 
help never ... when did he try to motivate people hating his website 
like me to participate. Last things my remarks about rebol.org are 
common sense. And they were made vastly in 2005 when it opens and 
when people style gived a damn. 6 years later rebol means nothing 
NOTHING it's lower than scrub and the recursive lack of work her 
killed rebol and any  initiative around it. Not only each time something 
cool is done in this community  Carl comes with a great announcement 
to ruin the effort but the  promise he makes never come to a reality.

I use IOS to keep version control of my website...so I usually have 
things integrated with that...but the GUI could make it easier...does 
it run makedoc2.r as well?

Working on a textile parser over here to build my 'parse skills and 
make it easier to build my website with Rebol

Now - sorry if I am breaking some licenses, but I will post some 
stuff to my website, and remove it once we are finished:

http://www.rebol.cz/mysql/mysql-protocol.r
http://www.rebol.cz/mysql/password.c

Now - sorry if I am breaking some licenses, but I will post some 
stuff to my website, and remove it once we are finished:

http://www.rebol.cz/mysql/mysql-protocol.r
http://www.rebol.cz/mysql/password.c

Now - sorry if I am breaking some licenses, but I will post some 
stuff to my website, and remove it once we are finished:

http://www.rebol.cz/mysql/mysql-protocol.r
http://www.rebol.cz/mysql/password.c

It's like a website -- two clicks and I'm out.

Festival is a software made in Scheme ( a Lisp clone) that allow 
voice synthésis (debian pakage are available on bedian.org website 
and can be acceded using Synapse GUI debian DLand Install software).

I wonder when Dockimbel is going to release his Cheyenne web server 
... it was slated for a Dec 04 release according to his website.

Try http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/ml-display-thread.r?m=rmlRDSC


But to be honest, I've been waiting for Graham or Dockimbel to notice 
the conversation.   My exposure to this sequence is purely "little 
think cut'n'paste" from the cookbook, since I'm REBOL in, REBOL out 
for the website I run.  :)

Anyone know the answer to this one? 

I have a cgi script that sends an email out. The problem is that 
I want to send to an address that has the same domain name as the 
website but whose mail server is not located there (It's an Exchange 
Server). Any other address works fine as expected. I think it has 
to do with the mx records but, the weird thing is that if I generate 
an email via php, it goes through. Therefore I'm thinking Rebol can 
do it too. 

I've used set-net  for the smtp server and have set it a different 
server completely but still no go.
And I'm in the process of having the MX records changed.

So, in terms of my website, if I put rebol executable e.g. into /rebol/rebol.exe, 
is it any different security-wise to /cgi-bin/rebol.exe?

Could anyone help me to understand following? We currently don't 
have time write own webshop, so few of our dealers offered us to 
be hosted. We simply want, that ppl visiting our hosted website would 
still see only http://www.xidyscomp.czin the url bar and not - http://xidys.ekatalog.biz/katalog.aspx

Ashley does an impressive communication work, both with this group 
and his website.

Ashley's website.

But we should not think that having DOM will allow us to manipulate 
website elements, as having document loaded into rebol DOM will not 
allow us to manipulate DOM tree loaded into browser :-)

John, I've downloaded it from your website - thank you!

One more question from an unexperienced REBOL-user:

What is the most commen way to enhance a block I've got with xml2rebxml, 
source is
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="iso-8859-1"?>
<chapter id="ch_testxml" name="Test XML">
  <title>A chapter with some xml tests</title>
  <sect1 id="sct_about" name="About my Tests">
    <title>What kind of tests I will do</title>
    <body>
      <para>Some simple paragraph.</para>
    </body>
  </sect1>
</chapter>

After read in the file with
my-doc: xml2rebxml read %test.xml

I'd like to insert a second sect1-element in the block my-doc, whats 
the best way - just to avoid some stupid mistakes.

Good points, Maarten about accessibility.


If I were looking for an alternative REBOL GUI and typed REBOL GUI 
into Google, I'd probably soon conclude that there wasn't one. And 
that might end my evaluation of REBOL.


Having many useful tools scattered across personal websites has other 
weaknesses too -- look at how hard it's been for people to find Gavin 
MacKenzies's XML libraries after his personal website went offline.

I'm going to start a new website project and am excited about designing 
some stuff. If I could only make the cool things you do...

thanks. btw how secret is this? if i put scripts on my not so popular 
website, would somebody mind?

Thanks for your offer, but Yeksoon has kindly set up a temporary 
website for us, and will set up a more permanent one after some server 
upgrading.

text to speech ? not added to website yet. The demo is supposed to 
show two different ways of getting text to speech; via MS Agent and 
via SAPI. I haven't got the MS Agent one working properly yet on 
my system.

Updated COMLib website a little bit.  Amongst other small changes, 
added demos/speech.r

COMLib website update:
Added outlook-calendar.r and outlook-contacts.r demos.
Fixed a few bugs in the main rebol interface file, COMLib.r
http://home.wilddsl.net.au/anton/rebol/os/windows/COMLib/

My website is down, so COMLib page is not accessible for now.
Migrating from http://home.wilddsl.net.au/anton/
to http://anton.wildit.net.au/

Anton, is this the third website you've shifted to?

Bear in mind that around 10% of all people do not have javascript 
enabled. That way be through choice, necessity, or following US government 
security advice.

Javascript usage stats: http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp

Before clicking on a link to a web site that you are not familiar 
with or do not trust, take the precaution of disabling active content.
:
http://www.us-cert.gov/cas/tips/ST04-012.html


With PHP all the oomph is in the server , so it is under your control. 
As you cannot guarantee that JS will be available in the client if, 
extra steps are needed to ensure the website works without it -- 
even though it may work spectacularly better with it.

a little dated already but i like the idea behind the opensource 
movie creation with blender.. here the website: http://orange.blender.org/media-gallery

it s about the movie not the silly website around it..

Ashley, just noticed the RebDB on your Dobeash website is not the 
latest version.

Anyone had any experience with SQLite (http://www.sqlite.org/), especially 
in conjunction with REBOL? What are the limitations of sqlite3-protocol.r 
(http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/view-script.r?script=sqlite3-protocol.r), 
if any?

I'm interested to see how folks have dealt with issues such as:


 1) Support for datatypes other than TEXT, INTEGER, NUMBER and BLOB?

 2) All tables in one DB, or one table per DB to improve concurrency?

 3) Multi-user access across a network, given this statement from 
 the SQLite website:


SQLite uses reader/writer locks to control access to the database. 
(Under Win95/98/ME which lacks support for reader/writer locks, a 
probabilistic simulation is used instead.) But use caution: this 
locking mechanism might not work correctly if the database file is 
kept on an NFS filesystem. This is because fcntl() file locking is 
broken on many NFS implementations. You should avoid putting SQLite 
database files on NFS if multiple processes might try to access the 
file at the same time. On Windows, Microsoft's documentation says 
that locking may not work under FAT filesystems if you are not running 
the Share.exe daemon. People who have a lot of experience with Windows 
tell me that file locking of network files is very buggy and is not 
dependable. If what they say is true, sharing an SQLite database 
between two or more Windows machines might cause unexpected problems.

Website out on the web should have *no* control over decision making 
- only suggestions.  Website on a corporate trusted LAN should have 
heaps of control.

Should we inform the user is a new update is avalaible?

I think this should be configurable for compatible updates. I guess 
some people might become nervous, if the plugin connects to the rebol.com 
site on every invocation. Even it is only looking for updates, well, 
you'll never know ...

On incompatible updates: The user should get a message along the 
lines: "You have installed the Rebol 1.3.4 plugin, this website needs 
the 3.0 plugin" of course only, if that is true.

I would ask for "download and install" for user convenience. Ver< 
few people would want to download and check the binary before installing 
it. Maybe you _could_ add a checkbox to "only download".

Well, I hate popups, but I hate not getting inmportant info even 
more ... so, I start downloadinf a webpage, while this page is loading, 
I open another tab, and work on this. Now I return to my first page 
later, and I find an embedded message "We're sorry, you first need 
to download the new plugin version" would make me go crazy :-) So 
I would like a popup in this case. 

Well, when there is a new security update, for maximum security, 
the plugin should stop to work until the user has answered, wether 
he wants to update, or go with the old plugin.

go, find whatever website flash plug-in part of website, press right 
mouse - you will see menu for controlling flash script itself ... 
that is what I am talking about - you will find flash player related 
menu, not app related menu. And IF context menu is supposed to be 
under MY control, I can't guarantee you, that there will be SINGLE 
item left to configure rebol plug-in itself .... so, for me, Flash 
context menu is nearly nonexistant = used for Flash player itself, 
not for the app ...

Q: go, find whatever website flash plug-in part of website, press 
right mouse - you will see menu for controlling flash script itself 
... that is what I am talking about -

A: That is a choice of the developers.  The fact that people leave 
it as "default"


Q: Reichart - and you imo overestimate Flash's importance - they 
can be milti-whatever company, yet I would have to see some noticed 
real-life app someone uses in corporate sphere :-)


A: "I" over estimate Flash?  Uh, er….you mean like how Yahoo over 
estimated Flickr (front end is Flash), and bought them?  


Or, while you might not like it, if you are looking at an animated 
ad on the web, there is a good chance it is Flash.  That would be 
a 500 billion dollar industry that is using Flash as their delivery 
mechanism.  That is the app, animated content with games and click 
through.


And if you use T-Mobile, then you are using Flash.  Yup, it "is" 
the interface for their cellphone content provider.



Pekr, I'm not a fan of Flash, or Macromedia…I'm simply stating that 
Rebol should consider Flash's model as a pathway to a clean install 
and plug-in interface.

Maybe I should post a news on slashdot stating that the RAMBO is 
released and point to REBOL.com website ? ;-)) Looks like this method 
works quite well ;-)

I just registered Carl and myself for the conf.  Does anyone know 
how many have registered yet? I wonder if we should have a list of 
attendees on the conf website or is that not a good idea?

More news on this soon on he website.

Website updated with some hotels data; it seems not possible to get 
a central place for everybody down there, for the reason given earlier.Sorry 
for that...

At this time, and I far as I know, there should be live video feed 
of the sessions available on the Net.

Th URL will probably be disclosed on the Devcon Website the thursday 
morning. And of course, on Altme.

I guess there will be also video recording, but can't say for sure.

IS this link on the DevCon Website also?

For the Icons at the top: Blue = Crystal Mines, Green = Forests, 
Red = Gold Mines.  These are your base resources that reproduce each 
turn.  They create stockpiles of Energy, Wood and Gold respectively. 
 These stockpiles are used to activate cards in your hand.


card.png is the 'hidden' or deck card face.  This is used to hide 
the computer's cards and the deck and discard piles.  card1.png is 
a sample of the format that the card images are in.  This can be 
used as a basis for creating new cards to the correct size.  (86x64 
pixel size with a 7x7 pixel offset into the card1.png template). 
  I have a card editor that can add in the card details to match 
their stats etc.


Regarding image names - ill compile a full list and place it on the 
website later today once i finalise the deck size :)

is there any website with more info maybe?

Chris, it would be cool to add a count down timer on the website 
though, and easy to do...

May I suggest that the following be added to the home page of REBOLConf.info 
website:

- Much bigger date and time.
- Link to the video conference.
- List of known speakers.