AltME groups: search

paul  -- try it: you already can:

http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/search.r?find=sendmessagetimeout


There is already a win-api domain, so any script can be flagged as 
containing such commands:
http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/list-all-filters.r

Yeah I actually did try it after I wrote it and was not sure if I 
had luck or if it was somehow indexed that way.  That is cool.

Thanks -- looks like there is a problem with the content-length header 
 (I thought there might be as I remember problems in testing when 
trying to get a value that all browsers were happy with. I think 
I've made IE happy while bemusing Firefox).


I've re-uploaded the script. It now doesn't set a content-length 
header. So, if you try again, it should work. But you may not get 
a download progress bar (because your browser isn't told the length 
in advance)

My apologies for the problem!

Did you try the topic index -- it's intended to categorise what a 
thread is about rather than what words it contains:
http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/ml-topic-index.r?i=p

Sunanda,  I didn't try that.  I had assumed that search would use 
that index as a key.  Is there a way to search the topic index other 
than by clicking on a letter in the alphebetical list and relying 
on the browser's find functionality?

<< Is there a way to search the topic index other than by clicking 
on a letter>>
In theory:

http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/ml-topic-index.r?i=probe

takes you straight to the entry (if any) for 'probe.  But that looks 
broken right now....I'll look into it.


Other than that, no.  Only about 80% of the threads are indexed in 
the topic index. When we get closer to 100%. we'll enhance the existing 
search to take account of the topic index.....so results will include 
and be prioritised by the topic index. 

Well, you could try, in Google:
probe site:www.rebol.org inurl:topic

But that (as with any search anywhere) is dependent on Google having 
the page indexed.

Banner...I will try my first one..
--
Do you know....

'Dialects' is Rebol's greatest power ; it allows one to focus on 
expressing and model the the domain in its natural language.

As Reichart says somewhere, Altme REBOL3 is great for quick problem 
solving. But you have to find it first. Like most of the REBOLsphere 
it is close to invisible

(eg eFishAnt's recent serach for a REBOL hex editor. They exist: 
but can you find them?)


REBOL.org is just about the only exception to the invisibleness of 
the REBOLsphere -- try looking in Google for
   script library
as an example.

There is a bug in Repack script.


Each time I use it and I try to set the target directory, then clicking 
OK in the selection window terminate the script !!
ANNOYING !!!

Thanks for the error report.

It works for me.....At least on the versions of REBOL I am running.
What rebol.exe or view.exe are you running?
---

As a stop-gap, you could try running repack-core.  it's an ugly console-only 
version of repeck, but it should be less version-sensitive:
   do http://www.rebol.org/library/public/repack-core.r

Thanks.
That looks like a different problem to DideC's.

Your problem seems to be a traditional REBOL annoyance with paths 
that contain spaces....

qml-ed.r is tripping up over those spaces in "Dokumente und Einstellungen 
"
---

Could you try it in a folder whose path and name do not contain spaces 
to test that assumption?  Thanks!

but i try.

that rebol works here to. also when i start it from real console 
and logout. did you try really try the redirects of stdin and stderr?

I'm currently trying to filter IP addresses that try to log into 
my SSH server. For this I use a tool "swatch" and "iptables" to filter 
them.

Hi everyone,
I have a problem running the new view beta on suse 9.3.

I have libstdc++ 5, I can run rebol scripts (that need 1.3), but 
I can't start the desktop (I double-click the rebol icon, it just 
flashes -starts and stops immediatky-).
I'm new to Linux so this might be a known issue. 

I tried moving the VM to various places but same result at every 
try.
Maybe someone can help ?

Jonathan, try to launch rebol from the console rather than by double-clicking 
on the icon. Also, make sure you launch rebol from a place you have 
write access. For example, i installed rebol within /opt/rebol-cmd/bin 
but I do not have write access on this folder. So, from my home folder, 
i launch rebol like this: /opt/rebol-cmd/bin/rebview

I need to prepare some installation instructions for our polish partner. 
I will do some scripts to access mySQL on their server, using rebol, 
but I will not have access to the site. So I want to be well prepared, 
so they don't get annoyed after writing them tens of times "try that, 
try this" etc. :-)

try to download mpeg4ip, it is a mp4-only player/encoder. that should 
in theory work...

maybe you can do it by adding a new hd to the server. still a non-trivial 
task though, and i would try it on a local machine at least twice 
before attempting on a remote machine. :)

easy to use =  Xandros, linspire, mepis, pcbsd. I personally use 
linspire ( the only one that finds all my hardware and it works), 
mepis is real nice but it won't detect my 4 port lan ( only 2 ports) 
Xandros crashes with my video card, pcbsd ( freebsd) is very nice 
but right know it has issues with flat monitors, Oh Oh you can try 
PClinuxOS it is easy too and with a lot of eye candy.

When I try to encap it, it doesn't run anymore.

Try this How to - Quick & Easy CGI at http://www.rebol.com/docs/cgi1.html

or try it from one of the system-consoles, utside x.

OK. something else to try. clutching at straws. Sometimes illegal 
chars before rebol header. Try removing the blank line between !path-to-rebol 
& REBOL [] line

Not sure if I want to even try, if time.r doesn't work :-D

I will try to find my config .conf and send it to you by email ...

Hi Pekr, Rebol/Cmd works fine with lighttpd and LiteSpeed Web Servers. 
I configure succesfully those web servers to work with rebol/cmd 
as static server (i did not try as external server but this sould 
work too). But I did not succeed with Apache!

You are right. So i will try on Apache Linux. It shoud work as I 
succeeded with both lighttpd and litespeed. By the way, these two 
web server are very good and so easy to configure (specially LiteSpeed)...

i try that post-thing. hope graham is right.

another try, Pekr does not find a new file.

Yep, that was it.  Mediapartners-Google/2.1 submitted the form again. 
 It looks like if you have the Google search bar, it submits all 
your internet traffic to google, who then go and try and index that 
site - including submitting your email address to a form!!

500 Server Error

A misconfiguration on the server caused a hiccup. Check the server 
logs, fix the problem, then try again. URL: http://www.dayspringpublisher.com/cgi-bin/now.cgi

/home/daysprin/public_html/cgi-bin/now.cgi: Invalid shebang /dayspringpublisher.com/cgi-bin/rebol: 
Does not exist!

?? should be be rebol.exe at the end?
?? try an absolute path

try 
#!/home/daysprin/public_html/cgi-bin/rebol -cs

what is your precise mask for script itself? Try giving it 777 for 
a while, to see, if it is permission problem or not ... try to print 
newline at the end of the script ...

if it is .r, try to change it to .cgi for a while

ah, then this apache is configured strangely imo .... in Apache httpd.conf, 
you normally specify ScriptAlias for directory, where cgi is going 
to be placed. Then you can always manually set whatever directory, 
to perform cgi action by adding SetHandler cgi-script for specific 
directory .... but then all files in there are regarded being a cgi 
and Apache could try to run them ...

janeks, you could try to put .htaccess file into your directory, 
specifying e.g. AddHandler cgi-script .cgi for your directory .... 
it will override httpd.conf settings IF rewriteengine is set to enabled 
...

try your document root directory ...

Janeks,  here are some things to try:

1. Make sure you uploaded the rebol exe as binary and the rebol script 
as ascii.

2. make sure you chmod your rebol files, rebol and even the cgi-bin 
(755).

Hope that helps. I have seen the same thing as you many times when 
I first set up rebol.

Janeks,  I suppose it depends on what you want View to do. You can 
go ahead and put it in your cgi bin but It won't create interactive 
interfaces as you can when you run it locally. You can try the plugin 
for that kind of thing.

ldd rebol-view-executable

 under Linux could tell you what libraries are needed. If that is 
 not much (e.g. one library being dependant upon other etc.), you 
 could try to upload those libraries to where your view executable 
 resides. The question is, what is Linux OS strategy to look for libraries 
 - current dir, some central libraries storage path, elsewhere ...?

When I tried it, View seemed to want to try to install itself, and 
errored out when it tried to show an installation window. Various 
combinations of command line options were no help. I didnt try using 
old versions of view, or tricking view into thinking its already 
installed.

Do you have a linux box at home to play with ? You could try install 
Rebol/View on it without X running and see what error you get...

It's looks like I first try to negotiate with SP - probably he could 
help.

I'm using the com+ server at present stil as I wasn't able to get 
your script to work.  When I have time, I'll try again.

OK, I'm going to try it. Does the flash also handle the file saving 
portion?

if you have PHP on the server...you can try SwiftMailer.
http://www.swiftmailer.org/

Try to use Feedback - http://www.rebol.com/feedback.html- I don't 
think there is many people using Rebol with IIS

james, I am sure this has been discussed before and pekr and/or sunanada 
gave such an example... try doing a search or reading about it here 
in earlier conversations...

James: try this:

http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/view-script.r?script=acgiss.r

http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/documentation.r?script=acgiss.r

Max, we can't tell if we really need it until we get to try it out 
;)

well anyone wanting to pull up his sleeves a little and who doesn't 
mind getting started by chatting over the course of a week, to figure 
out things is welcome to try it out.   Remark is my most finished 
tool of all.  It has been release level for a long time...

Try control-F5.  In IE it is a "stronger" refresh than just F5. So 
it might be similar on Opera.

let me try all

that's right I was going to try to program -- testing

and altme chokes on me, whenever I try to save settings

css may well try to isolate presentation layer, but imo it fails. 
You have box aproach, but let's relate it to VID area - the text 
in css terms will hide, if it is longer than the visible area, but 
- where is scroll-bar? Correct me if I am wrong, but you simply need 
'if and other good functions to program it exactly the way you want 
...

Also, CSS designs are typically faster -- less code, not so much 
nested table calculation.  Try this book -- http://www.zeldman.com/dwws/

try e.g. http://www.dxt.czand choose whatever category on the left 
... products are placed in a grid (table). I wonder if you would 
use table or go without it ...

They are both divs so there is an implied newline between them.
Try adding
display:inline
to the footer.

Try putting the footer inside the other div:
<div class="processingtime">some processing time
<div class="footer">some trademarks stuffs</div></div>
and as inline or (in this case) <span>

D'oh!  The footer comes second.  Anyway, try --

.processingtime {width: 50%; float: left;}
.footer {width: 50%; float: right; text-align: right;}

stupid FTP client... try again :-)

Ashley I'm Absolutly agreed with your point of view  !!! The way 
to participate actively to a project can take a lot of shapes. 1) 
make doc 2) making code optimisation 3) adding brand new code 4) 
debugging 5) giving feedbacks and needs 6)  making translation 7) 
making sample code (as far as I saw in my peronnal experience it's 
easier to understand how to use a thing if you provide a sample code 
that's an illustration not a goal. Sample code alone are only accessible 
to yet powerred users. Documentation without sample code is abstract. 
That's for example what I like in the rebol documentation diccionnary 
it explains and shows you concretly little sample to pretty understand 
the cancept explain... Making good doc is a hard and painfull task 
... If it belongs only to one people my personnal expirence shows 
me that the effort is not made along a long time... so it's obvious 
that we need a doc commity where people emulates each others and 
fixe periodically new goals. In French speaking community we all 
share teh same point of view that' why we try to put at disposal 
of all the people some usefull tools like a dokuwiki in http://www.rebolfrance.org
and doc collectors in http://www.rebolfrance.frand http://rebdocproj.sourceforge.net/) 
our public is french speaking mainly but we are so few that we can't 
say hey our tools are for french speaking people only. So if those 
tools seems you usefull for any project and any information sharing 
or cooperative work go ahead use them ;)

Interesting: just downloaded this free ActionScript compiler http://www.mtasc.org/
and will try if it would be possible to integrate it with the rswf 
(so I could use *.as file for actions without need to parse it in 
Rebol)

Oldes, I'm still amazed at this dialect and the sites you have created. 
I wonder if you have a list of the commands that are being used. 
I've been going through the examples to try to figure out what does 
what but it seems like a list would be faster. Thanks.

Thanks Oldes, I will try that. The dialect and AS are becoming clearer 
now with all the info you have given me. I look forward to writing 
lots of cool things. Thanks for the hint about the two main parts. 
I wondered how they were connected as most of the AS tutorial have 
you create something with the GUI then add the AS part.

I've putted together the missing functions in /core 2.7.5, taken 
from /view in the swf-in-core.r file, try this:
move to the appropriate directory, then:
do http://reboot.ch/rebol/swf/swf-on-core.r

make-swf/save/html http://box.lebeda.ws/~hmm/rswf/examples/swf8/swf8-convolution1.rswf

I just fear one thing which tended to happen in the past - RT was 
silent before the release, release was done and then it was late 
for suggestions. Gabriele, please, try to avoid that :-) Tell Carl, 
please, that folks do need his attention here. You have some input 
in Rebol Enhancements group. In fact we don't know where to post, 
so some of us submit even to RAMBO. Everybody feels we are near freezing 
for 1.4/2.7, so please let's not cut some fine late enhancements.

as far as i remember, i wasnt able to try it out because the description 
was not obvious for a newcomer. maybe now i would succeed trying 
it

RT may want to try and replicate this install/uninstall inorder to 
confirm whether there is a problem with the installer.

And please feel free to hack at it, try exploting buffer overruns, 
etc.

Security Issues:

- We should to be able to restrict with the secure native what files 
and dlls the plugin can access.

- The default security of the RT-provided plugin (not encapped by 
a third-party) should prohibit any access to any local files or libraries 
at all, even in the same directory as the script, and prohibit access 
to third-party network addresses as well. Or at least ask.

- There should be some way to access the site's cookies from the 
plugin, because there shouldn't be any other way to store local data 
on the client computer's hard drive. Anything short of that will 
be a security hole.

- There should be no way to reduce the default security of the plugin 
through the use of plugin params.

- Any attempt to reduce access should prompt the user for permission, 
in terms a non-technical user can understand. This means rewriting 
the security dialogs to be more user-friendly.

- Any relaxation of these default security restrictions should require 
encapping the script.

- A user (or their lawyer) should to be able to (perhaps through 
RT) track down the author of any encapped script.

- An encapped script should count as a seperate plugin as far as 
the user is concerned, at least as far as permission-to-install is 
concerned.


Basically, the default security of the plugin should not allow scripts 
to do anything you wouldn't want your worst enemy to do on your computer. 
People will try to use this plugin for advertisements, for webbugs, 
for spyware, for every nasty thing that you aren't evil enough to 
think of. Avoiding that kind of thing should be the focus of the 
default security settings. Anything less will make the plugin unsafe 
to install.

Henrik, if someone wants to run an anonymous browser script in /View 
they are welcome to try, but the browser integration won't be there 
so the script may not work.

Hello Josh! I have one request. Try to run this:

under IE:
http://www.rebol.cz/~cyphre/plugin-ie.html

under Mozilla/FF etc.:
http://www.rebol.cz/~cyphre/plugin-moz.html


Drag the green box using mouse and try to move it quickly over the 
screen. You can see the time lag when the green box is updating the 
position.

Now try this from normal Rebol/View console:
do http://www.rebol.cz/~cyphre/plugin-moz-test.r


You can see there is no lag and the green box is updated very quickly.

Do yo have any idea what could cause this difference?

my specualtions: 

1. Are you always blitting the whole screen in the plugin versions? 
This could cause the slowdown as there should be updated only the 
part with green box on the screen.

2. Could be the slowdown cause by different(higher)  amount of mouse 
events which are pumped from browser to the plugin?

cyphre, try resizing the browser window to fit the plugin. it doesn't 
speed up, so it might be something with mouse events

I agree with Maxim. Most people out there in the world don't have 
any reason to trust Rebol or Rebol Technology. It might be just another 
spyware company for all they know. Why would they (initially) want 
to allow an automatic software corridor into their computer ? It's 
an issue of trust. First let them try it out, then when they like 
what they see, allow them to enable more automatic security updates 
if they want.

But I will try to express my opinion here for those various topics:

2) Installation - I like several versions installation - IIRC even 
Java can coexist? I use it with mozilla - I run Mozilla suite or 
Seamonkey, various versions from various locations - they do share 
profile - settings, sandbox .... 'Needs field could work for us too. 
If the app specifies it, try to locate particular version. If such 
version is not available, display dialog, where you preselect latest 
version and provide with list-box, with ability to manually choose 
from available versions ... and "run" button ....

Did anybody try Cyphre's http://www.rebol.net/plugin/moz-1/cyphre-demo.html
in Mozilla? In Seamonkey I get sligtly different results than when 
it is being run in View directly ... e.g no sound, the wheels (second 
sequence) are blinking strangerly, there some some white-page breaks 
with nothing displayed, whereas in View there is some text ... (IIRC 
e.g. Sea Dream in the beginning is missing in browser)

Pekr: actually, I'm sure there is, that's why you are asking. Can 
you explain the problem in a little more detail? You need that auto-config 
script interpreted? Maybe it would be easier to configure REBOL to 
rad the auto-configure script than to try to get IE to parse it and 
get the details via an API. Thoughts?

doesn't IE already do netscape-style plugins?  I've never had any 
troubles running any plugin with IE.  It''s always been the other 
way around, where IE was the only browser that did ActiveX, well, 
until Neptune.   I guess I should try to make demo page with latest 
Moz plugin release before I pipe up.

For me the plugin download on the page Josh sent a link for. However, 
when I try to run the examples, none of them will work. This is on 
IE.

Louis: try a restart of your computer. that may free up any IE resources 
that are in use.

Did you try the test page at http://www.rebol.net/plugin/tests/test.html?

Got the Plugin working with Firefox ... thanks for the help ... will 
try and code a couple of demos tommorow.

I tried setting the plugin up on opera, but it crashed, and now i 
can't seem to get it to load any more. does anyone have any idea 
how to tell opera to try to load the plugin again? (it is listed 
as registered in about:plugins)

Yes. You should try disabling third party cookies in your browsers 
and see how much stuff is leaked to  through that., easy enough to 
steal from a form a user just filled out ;-)

Try with the source version, not the encapped one.

I'm not sure, if you can run it from Rebol/Base, you may try it.

maarten, thanks, I'm needing it too.  if cheyenne can handle big 
loads, and SSL, there is a good chance I'll try to use it.  The release 
commes out at a really good time for me.

Will "Mike, I started using Apache and rebol as cgi, this is not 
suited for performances as on every call to the cgi, a new instance 
of rebol is  initialized, run and closed.

I thought about using fastcgi, but never came to a working solution.
Now I use uniserve as main webserver, here some advantages:

-it is fast! On my local machine I get +- 600 req/sec for static 
pages and a max of 160req/sec for dynamic rsp pages

-it is written in rebol, I could easly(less than 10 lines code) add 
a rewrite engine

-child process are persistent, this mean you can keep state of your 
web applications, implement caching, keep a pool of connection to 
databases open (in apache + rebol/cgi you'd have to open and close 
the connection for every request)
-it is written by Dock whom I may be the biggest fan ;-)

btw I'm running an unreleased version (have bought commercial support) 
 that support http 1.1, stuff like If-Modified etc..

If you have more specific questions, I'll be glad to try and answer."

Doc, I am also one of your fans. I've been going to your web site 
regularly to see if Cheyenne was released. I was excited to be able 
to download it. But I have a problem. Cheyenne loads fine, but when 
I try to test the links on the index.html page they fail. What am 
I doing wrong?

Thanks for your code, I'll give it a try. Btw, IE has 85% market 
share (according to a recent article on osnews.com).

If you're using cheyenne.r to try to start your service, that's logical 
: only the HTTPd service is loaded, see cheyenne.r source code. If 
you want to add your own service to cheyenne, add it to cheyenne.r. 
If you don't want cheyenne, just write your own launch script.

I will try to write to Carl :-)

if you promise that you'll try it out, I'll put it online.

actually I've read it, but have no time right now to try it. I'm 
still looking for some web managment so I can rework my web, but 
the time...that's the problem :) I'm using just "all groups" and 
check red groups for anything interesting :)

Ok. Definitely will try it .. why do they have a how to that's so 
difficult ??