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anyway, i have the bootstrap node running right now. please try doing 
the test script if you can receive TCP connections on port 2222

You might try from CTRL-A at boot up when the SCSI bios message apears

Yeah do the backup regardless but I would suggest before you go further 
than that - that you try and clear the NVRAM of the card and wipe 
the disk config and rebuild both and try not to initialize unless 
it forces you to.  Then fail the second drive and see if you can 
rebuilt it then.  But get the backup first.

Try this:

Try the above image-fit.r program, set it to 2-points and then play 
with the SIZE pair-edit.

Ok, reorganised. Try image-fit.r again.

Anton: the new image color problem you have found is 'by design' 
at the moment ;) The bilinear filter needs image data with premultiplied 
alpha when you want to use image with alpha/transparency. Another 
possibility is to use IMAGE-FILTER NEAREST which doesn't need premultiplied 
alpha in this case. I'll try to think how to solve this 'inconsistency' 
so it doesn't harm performance too much.

Anton, according to the author of AGG the filter calculations would 
be much more complex and thus expensive if done in plain color space. 
Anyway, please submit a ticket to RAMBO I'll try to make the best 
to solve this issue.

Did he try the /as-is refinement to launch? That should solve the 
problem.

Did you try:
    launch/as-is {%t.r test}

It's annoying!

Sometimes just moving code around can fix it. Try making some local 
words global, for example.

you may try  recycle/off   and do it yourself

whith the patch above you should be able to do for example:

trace/net on

p: open/direct http://www.youtube.com/get_video?video_id=FVbf9tOGwno&t=OEgsToPDskKR0Ng6kANs3Z4VNG81T2tZ
error? try [close p]

i actually want to  try that out before july... but not sure i'll 
have the time.

+ platform + swing-widgets. But did not try yet.

Try this:
remove/part charset "abc" "a"

Can I get someone to try this before I report it.

foreach [e s] to block! {thing 'word} [compose [e (get s)]]

segfaults 1.3.2.4.2 and 2.7.5.4.2

Pekr, if ugly is ok, try this: block/("my string") ;)

Paul:try talking to Graham as his mailing list reader only dls the 
new mail and saves to the master.Probaly a way to modify for your 
task ? Graham ?

btw - what you think of following? - normally we can access paths 
in several ways ... block/5 (fifth element), block/literal (literal 
element), block/(expression) (expressionn to evaluate). Nonexistant 
elements do return 'none. But try block/("some string") - it returns 
error. Now the question is, if this is correct/consistent with other 
ways of how we access block elements, or not?

you could try
  1-1-1970 + unix-seconds
and see what happens.

You might be on to something.. I did unix time (now) and it returned 
24-Dec-13007.  However, maybe I need to subtract not add.  I will 
play with this SIMPLE solution.  (I always try to look at it harder 
than it probably needs to be).  Thanks.

try this - found some arcane version, hopefully it will work ...

I will look into it and try to post correct version ...

Try this one:

yes, it is, try MOD and MODULO functions, if you need a different 
behaviour

OK, try to put it there and let's see :-)

Lots to think about and try.  Thanks a bunch guys for your help.

Sunanda, do you mean sort on the second field? Try passing an integer 
or block of integers to the compare refinement of sort.

Almost, no leading zero. Try: now/time + 12:00

You can try multimethods.r

you lost me :-) but it's ok, I'll try something with build-path...

After that you may have hardware support problems, but there are 
several options to try in the boot menu

I'll try torrent

Ok, I renamed it with the bz2 ext and used 7zip to decompress. Buring 
now. will try again...

Did you try the alternative boot options?

I ran it for a few years to try it

#!/sbin/rebol  -qw
Rebol [
 file: %update.r

 purpose: {Update the system clock based upon the nist.gov time server}
 author: {Graham Chiu}
 date: 15-Apr-2007
]

get-nist-correction: func [/local nist-time cpu-time mjd hms] [
 nist-time: read daytime://time-a.nist.gov
 cpu-time: now

 parse/all nist-time [skip copy mjd 5 skip 2 thru " " copy hms 8 skip]
 nist-time: 17/Nov/1858 + to integer! mjd
 nist-time/time: to time! hms
 nist-correction: difference nist-time cpu-time
]

forever [
 if error? set/any 'err try [
 print [ "Current time was: " now ]
 current-time: now + get-nist-correction
 print [ "New time is: " current-time ]

 s: rejoin [ "date -s " {"} current-time/month "/" current-time/day 
 "/" current-time/year " " current-time/time {"} ]
 probe s
 call s 
 ][ probe mold disarm err ]
 wait 00:02:00 ;; wait 2 mins
]

I did try using yahoo mail as the imap server but there was too much 
latency

Kaj, please make a XEN DomU out of it. I will give it immediatly 
a try. I'm searching for a base distro that can be used to create 
a complete application stack.

Did he try Syllable Desktop or Syllable Server?

In any case, if you want to try you need our development build

Using Cheyenne to run tens of websites here, including Try REBOL

I really wish, I had more time, so I could also try this out. Well, 
hopefully some day, I'll see this in action.

the reason I want to try out syllable is that it seems to align with 
much of the sane Amiga principles while sheding those which seemed 
more closely related to religion.

would be nice to try to get the latest mesa project running on it 
with the gallium driver model.  that would get you HW accelerated 
gfx without the need for your own HW drivers.

If you could settle for an FTP server you could try Desktop, but 
you can't trust your files to be safe

I didn't Kaj, I will try again.

Is it possible to put the bootable ISO image onto a USB key to install 
from that? I would like to try both Syllable Desktop and Server on 
my Acer Aspire One. It doesn't have a CD-ROM, though.

We don't have an install image to put on a USB stick to install from 
there, but the steps from a USB install CD should be small. There 
is some preparation for it on the install CD, so if you know your 
way around such things you could try to complete that configuration

For REBOL people, Server is the only Linux distro that caters to 
their needs, shipping a collection of REBOL software preconfigured, 
including Boron and ORCA. The latter are hard to try out when you 
have to install them yourself, and because most REBOL people come 
from Windows, they generally have a hard time installing and configuring 
a REBOL server when they want to use Linux

Security could still be improved, but we are running the Try REBOL 
site on it to test it, which allows the public to run almost any 
REBOL expression, and although many tried, we haven't had any breaches 
yet :-)

I've upgraded the Try REBOL website

What kind of hardware is "Try REBOL" running on?

That snappy Try REBOL site is running on an old 650 MHz Pentium 3 
with 128 MB of memory. :-) The website itself is quite inefficient 
compared to regular sites, because each REBOL evaluation request 
needs to be run in its own Linux process under a separate user account 
for security

To see for yourself, try

I also hope that some REBOL oldtimers will give R3 a try. It is nice 
that there is at least one OS (Syllable), who openly mentions REBOL 
to the user-base. Maybe similar situation could be done for AmigaOS 
and/or Haiku.

It works quite well as long as you don't try to install extra software

Only when you try to install more software you're on your own, because 
there are often more missing configurations, or conflicts between 
binary packages

I'm eying ArchBang and the TinyME development releases to try out, 
but I don't know yet if they're suitable

Anyway, a year ago I decided to stop distro hopping if at all possible, 
and try to develop Syllable Server so that I could work on it myself 
on all my machines; which I've now succeeded at apart from that installation 
CD

I'll be sure to try it on my laptop and give you feedback...  :-)

Apart from the Alt-Function keys, did you also try the Preferences/Screen 
applet? I think the offered resolutions are a function of the video 
driver. Some drivers know some wide screen resolutions, but not many

I tried Preferences/Screen applet, there was just 640x480 and 800x600. 
I will try live cd on my desktop pc this weekend also, it is an old 
amd athlon.

so i think he might be happy to try it and would need just a little 
of your resources in form of a little guidance

It's not often that a PS/2 mouse doesn't work. Do you have another 
mouse you can try, maybe a USB mouse?

My OS of choice is however BlueBottle (bluebottle.ethz.ch) so I'd 
prefer to devote time to it. So that's a matter of time investments. 
E.g. I would not try hacking sources of Syllable...

Or maybe I will try to hack. I will decide later, now I must leave.

Ah. I got it. I will try to specify that "ppp/if" as a substitute 
for rp-pppoe.so.

I will try specifying "if" there, nevertheless. "man pppd" AFAIR 
says it's a privileged mode library

I will reboot and try. AFAIU it's installed.

And the next step would be to try to compile RP

I'll try to install Sy on a virtualbox...

That's a very long story. I can't speak for the motivation of the 
Haiku developers, and I can't predict the future of Syllable, so 
I won't try

Ok, played.  2.6.50.4.2  version insert takes word! series!  so

m: does [make image! 0x0]  f: rebcode [] [apply j m []  insert j 
[1]  return j]  will assemble and run, but I get a mungled image 
when I try it.   (Can't get the 256 count thingy to assemble)

Ok, I will try later

Try a search on Carl's blog (not R3 blog) with the word : "module 
". You will see a dozen of answers. See http://www.rebol.net/docs/modules.html, 
also. A first step to learn about modules.

Ok. Thanks. I'll try that.

Not yet. (The force of the explosion increases the more you try to 
contain it.)

Something to consider for REBOL 3: The current implementation strategy 
for symbols in REBOL has significant limits to the possible number 
of symbols available at one time. It might be a good idea to try 
a red-black tree for symbols instead - newLISP uses that strategy 
and can handle millions of unique symbols efficiently.

Well, you could always try seeing how hard it is to implement from 
the available souce snippets. I think by the time you've finished 
doing that you'd be an expert.

I had a few problems with 'join and 'rejoin in the beginning because 
I somehow expected them to be a bit like form and reform, using the 
same arguments as input. That's of course not logical, but I think 
that the 'word and 're-word naming of functions, doesn't entirely 
fit and actually limits the naming scheme, making it a disadvantage 
rather than an advantage.


Does 'recycle have anything to do with 'reduce? Or 'remove? No. One 
might think up a 'move function that does 'reduce. That would clash 
with 'remove, but 're- has two different meanings.


Words in rebol usually have sensible naming, something you can pick 
out of the dictionary and it'll make sense, except for those with 
're- in front of them. If you take them out of context and try to 
explain them, you have to know about 'reduce, but the dictionary 
meaning of the 're- words is something different. I don't have any 
suggestions on how to change this though, other than add a dash: 
re-form, re-join, re-mold...:-)

Years ago, I successfully argued to Carl that SWITCH's VALUE argument 
should go before the CASES argument. My reasoning today is the same 
- it is easier to parse visually when the smaller or less frequently 
changing parts of an expression go together. As you can see above, 
all the conjoins with the same PAD argument are easy to see, and 
the more likely to vary DATA blocks begin sometimes at the same horizontal 
position (thus, easier to compare). Just scroll up and compare with 
the tests for your version; look at each line and try to see what 
the differences between them are.

The reasoning that a standard argument order is a good memory guide 
isn't strong enough for me; there is always HELP, and I think the 
particularities of each function are more important when determining 
the order of arguments.

Anyway, I knew I would encounter some resistence to the argument 
order in this version. The argument order is less important than 
all the other features, even though I feel strongly about it. If 
I have to reverse argument order to get it through, I will. (But 
I will try to make you rebut my argument first.) I keenly await your 
analysis of both functions. Maybe there are some cases I haven't 
considered?

I try to avoid using extra variables. They can be a real pain when 
it comes to optimization and make things look messier. Of course, 
when using a variable the argument order becomes less important. 
It's only important when no variables are used and specified directly.

Looking at your conjoin with the /only and /pad-only refinements, 
it seems that with the /only you are trying to recreate the delimit 
function, but not as usefully. I thought of using pad as a variable 
name, but "delimiter" was more appropriate since padding functions 
usually pad outside the data, not within it. Let me try to add you 
fixes to my version and see what I get.

If you want to try something really fun, pass a no-argument function 
value as the delimiter argument. You can use this for all sorts of 
tricks, though if you are doing that the references to delimiter 
in the conjoin function should be put in parentheses for safety. 
Like this:

Anton, "I try to avoid using extra variables". In my scenario its 
not an extra variable. I have a block of data from elsewhere, so 
it is in a variable. I want that nicely formed, with delemiters. 
If i want  the data inline, i need no conjoin, i can join it by putting 
all in one string.

Sure, ieven AGG2.3 (which Rebol is using) supports high quality downscaling 
of images(among other types of image filters). As I know lot of Rebolers 
would like to generate quality thumbnails ;) I'll try to talk with 
Carl about including this in future versions of Rebol.

the lit-argument passing method is already present in the language 
(although I am against it, to express my preferences, since ++ 'count 
looks good enough to me being referentially transparent - try to 
write ++ pick [a b] 1 using the nontransparent argument passing method), 
so you are indeed requesting much more than that complicating the 
languge without offering an advantage that would justify it

but look at my last post and the code example  its VERY simple... 
if I had had THAT 5 years ago, I would have been able to build up 
from REBOL to be able to at least support an array of data from the 
start and then try to understand the concept of the grammar tree.

well, if the way you're doing it now is not working ... I suggest 
you try my ways :)

try sending some raw PCL to the printer to see what happens

it was wrong. please try again.

With the change, I can produce a PS file, but I still can't see the 
image. Will try some stuff...

I will give it a try on my OfficeJet thing. Pretty old and I'm mostly 
sure it won't work. Any good PS file for the test?

Pekr, do you try to open this?
http://www.fys.ku.dk/~niclasen/postscript/pdftest.pdf

Maybe encoding? ok, I'll try change encoding. one moment...

Pekr, try reload it again.

Geomol, did you try my VID->postscript conversion function? It might 
be able to do some of what you need.