• Home
  • Script library
  • AltME Archive
  • Mailing list
  • Articles Index
  • Site search
 

AltME groups: search

Help · search scripts · search articles · search mailing list

results summary

worldhits
r4wp708
r3wp7013
total:7721

results window for this page: [start: 801 end: 900]

world-name: r3wp

Group: I'm new ... Ask any question, and a helpful person will try to answer. [web-public]
Normand:
12-Apr-2005
Speaking of double bind, I have no clue of the how-to to this clue. 
 In Ocaml we can make co-recursive definitions, also with negation. 
 But when I try this on Rebol, it claims the value before I have 
the time to define it:  a: not b and b: not a.   Interp: ** script 
error, b has no value.  What is the method ?  Or are we out of paradise? 
 I could use that as a form of loop, or a form of lexical closure 
to model some linguistic phenomenas.  But how?  We know the problems 
of complement of complement, but as a function value it should be 
feasible.
Normand:
12-Apr-2005
A pair number cant be defined without impair. pair is impair +1 and 
impair is pair +1.  So we have to define both at the same time.  
In logic, the negation is a function where true is false and false 
is true.  Not and complement are native to rebol.  If I try a: not 
'b b: not ''a. asking the value of a, :a, does not return not b but 
false.   Something like this does not seem to work.  What I want 
is criss-crossed functions one defined by the other.  In principle, 
Rebol being functionnal.   It should be simple, a one liner, but 
I am too newbee to find the elegant way to do this.
Anton:
28-Apr-2005
Gosh, it's too hard for me to do in any reasonable time. I suggest 
looking at the code to figure out the method used, then see if you 
can make your own custom types.
Gabriele:
28-Apr-2005
maybe somedaye i'll have the time to finish this stuff and add docs...
Gabriele:
28-Apr-2005
and, i think an interpreted language would probably have a hard time 
at it, except for simple cases like the seasoning above.
Normand:
30-Apr-2005
Thanks for all those suggestions.   I was out for quite a while and 
am very happy of all those remarks. It will help orient my trials&errs. 
 About  objects, dynamic versus static, If I understand it, in Rebol 
it is static?  I never had to use them except to encapsulate the 
whole of an app.  Is there a trick to mimick something dynamic to 
hold changing values?  Maybee a copied block is enough?  I wonder 
because I regularly try to add code to a bibliographic database, 
a kind of a variation on bibtex (never ended, allways in progress), 
And I am not too far from aiming the storage mechanism and wonder 
what I should use to hold something like from 5 to 10 thousand references 
(my actual need is 3.5K)  I used endnotes in the past, but dreamed 
about my own.  It is a lot of work (more than I expected as it is 
my first app).   Up to now I think I will use simply name-value pairs, 
like Carl's cardex.  This kind of data is more like a ragged array, 
the fields and their numbers allways vary, and I may amend their 
list with time.  The idea of using an object would be nice but need 
something where I may add or retract variable names and change their 
values.  By the way, I thank Volker for his edit-tools, that may 
help to add a writing pad.  And his double slider is refreshingly 
new for such and old paradigm as an editor.
Normand:
30-Apr-2005
Thanks a lot.  It the kind of thing I normally learn the hard way, 
like the first time I was confronted to [ ] instead of copy [ ]. 
 Judging when it is better to use a block or object or structure, 
hash or else is not evident from a new eye.  The small Ladislav tutorial 
on blocks (series) is the kind of thing that helps a lot,, it help 
a newcommer realise how the language is articulated.
Group: CGI ... web server issues [web-public]
Tim:
21-Feb-2005
Chris: from what I see, it does not. Either the file has to be transfered 
and saved on the server with unix-style line enders or -q has to 
be there to make it work for me. Time will tell. Unfortunately I 
don't have a linux machine to download and compare.... Can you say 
"Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle"? :-) Anway, what works, works. 
I'll post more on this subject when I actually get back to programming. 
thanks.
BrianW:
28-May-2005
hrm. I get weird behavior trying to run a cgi.

Here's the code:

#!/usr/local/bin/rebol -c

REBOL [
	Title: "Server Time"
]

print "content-type: text/html^/"
print [<HTML><BODY>]
print ["Date/time is:" now]
print [</BODY></HTML>]


I get an Internal Server Error result in the browser, and here's 
the output in my error_log:


[Sat May 28 16:21:38 2005] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] *** Boot Error 
951: \r

[Sat May 28 16:21:38 2005] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] Premature end 
of script headers: time.r


If I run if with 'rebol time.r', it clears the screen and then displays 
this:

content-type: text/html

<HTML> <BODY>
Date/time is: 28-May-2005/16:24:42-7:00
</BODY> </HTML>
Aborted

What the heck am I doing wrong?
BrianW:
28-May-2005
[[wisti-:-localhost] cgi-bin]$ /usr/local/bin/rebol -c time.r
content-type: text/html

<HTML> <BODY>
Date/time is: 28-May-2005/16:47:35-7:00
</BODY> </HTML>
[[wisti-:-localhost] cgi-bin]$
BrianW:
28-May-2005
[[wisti-:-localhost] cgi-bin]$ unset DISPLAY
[[wisti-:-localhost] cgi-bin]$ /usr/local/bin/rebol -c time.r
content-type: text/html

<HTML> <BODY>
Date/time is: 28-May-2005/16:50:36-7:00
</BODY> </HTML>
BrianW:
28-May-2005
.oO(thinking it's time to downgrade)
Pekr:
6-Aug-2005
yes, although I did it long time ago ....
Ashley:
27-Aug-2005
Post codes in Australia (4 digits with the first indicating state 
... most of the time)
james_nak:
25-Oct-2005
I'm trying to set up rebol in my new host and I'm coming up with 
"Premature end of script headers" in the error log. "Server error 
500 " shows up in the browser, btw. I'm going through my usual  routine 
of error checking. Does anyone know what the permissions are for 
the cgi-bin directory are to be at. One time, long ago, I had this 
problem and fixed it with chmod. The files themselves are set to 
755.
Volker:
25-Oct-2005
most time path-issues then. some folderpath changed i guess.
Pekr:
5-Dec-2005
3) I have older version of rebcmd from linux sdk I bought. But it 
did not used 'read-cgi at that time (well, here we are with SDK coming 
late ;-) My question is - I uploaded rebol core into cgi-bin directory:
a) is it desirable aproach or should it be avoided?

b) how do I assure, that if I ftp rebol executable to cgi-bin dir, 
to have sufficient right of the target directory, so that it could 
be run?
Volker:
5-Dec-2005
No, the second time i do a wait. that should be slower.
Pekr:
5-Dec-2005
but you could flood server, running hundreds of instances .... keeping 
them in memory for long time ...
Pekr:
5-Dec-2005
advantage of having rebol in cgi-bin is, that you can update it yourself, 
not asking your ISP to update it for you each time new version is 
out :-)
Graham:
12-Dec-2005
This is an odd one.  I have a form that records a user's email address, 
the time they filled in the form, and their ip address.

A user did so, and got two subscription notices - timed 30 seconds 
or so apart.  So, both were his email address, but the ip address 
of the later one was from Google!
Janeks:
11-Aug-2006
I am trying for first time to setup rebol for cgi on  remote Apache 
web server on Linux.
I am working from WinXP
Site management is done with EnsimPro. Ftp does not yet working.
So what is done up to now:

Uploaded file Rebol from rebol-core-2602042.tar package for Linux 
to cgi-bin directory;

Set permisions to owner read, write, execute and for group and others 
to read, execute;
Test script -> write file read file,

Test script uploaded (throught web broeser by using EnsimPro web 
interface) test script:

#!/var/www/cgi-bin/rebol -cs

REBOL [Title: "CGI Basics"]

print ["Content-type: text/html" newline]

print "Hello!!!"

to cgi-bin directory;
Set the same permisions.


Pointing to the test file I am getting "500 Internal server errror" 
What else could be wrong?


Interesting that I have interpreters directory on this web server 
where are couple files regarding php and perl.
Could it be connected with my problem?
Graham:
22-Aug-2006
I'm using the com+ server at present stil as I wasn't able to get 
your script to work.  When I have time, I'll try again.
Graham:
22-Aug-2006
No time to figure this all out .. just ask users to install Imagemagick 
:)
james_nak:
25-Sep-2006
Does anyone have any ideas about how to approach a web-based gui 
that allows users to upload multiple files at one time without having 
a series of  "inputs?" I'd like to have users do a ctrl select when 
they are browsing for multiple files to send. Thanks.
Gabriele:
28-Sep-2006
afaik, the latest formmail.pl is "secure enough" (esp. if you configure 
it properly). it's not the best system out there, and being very 
popular it is also a popular target, but if you don't have time to 
replace it but can keep it up to date you should be fine.
Henrik:
22-Jan-2007
james, let me know if you come up with something. I was doing some 
session stuff for blogger.r, but stopped due to lack of time.
DanielSz:
26-Jul-2007
I played with Oldes script a bit, didn't get far. I think there's 
no other option than follow Graham's advice and delve in the http 
scheme. I had hoped to find something in the script archive, oh well... 
I saw that even in the Ruby and Python community there's some confusion 
on how to achieve multipart form submissions with CGI. (Python default 
http library also uses  "application/x-www-form-urlencoded" and not 
""multipart/form-data", but there's a library called HTTPFileUploader 
that does the job). Last time I tried to hack the http scheme I wasn't 
so succesful. This time, if I need help, I'll ask for help.
amacleod:
18-Sep-2007
I have a rebol view app that I use to acces a MySQL database. I had 
it working  and then ,y ISP decided to add security and no longer 
allow MySQL access unless its a script on the server. Ofcourse they 
did not inform me and it took some time to track down the problem..
Pekr:
8-Apr-2009
One of my clients updates his site via some tool, which always seem 
to add some space between the lines. After some time, the page is 
instead of 400 rows something like 13K rows - the size goes from 
cca 25KB to 100KB. So I wrote a cgi script, which reads index.html 
and removes blank lines. Everything is OK, when I run the script 
from the console. But when I run it via a browser as a CGI script 
call, it can't write the file. Dunno why - cgi-script is being run 
using -cs switch, I even put secure none in there, cgi-script has 
the same own, grp set as index.html, but I can't write it ....
Group: XML ... xml related conversations [web-public]
Pekr:
30-Oct-2005
Sunanda-  noone here talks about XML in-memory databases. XML databases 
are most of the time dirty tricks, as well as object ones ...
Christophe:
1-Nov-2005
About the choice of the right internal data-keeping structure: because 
we are manipulating big XML files (> 2MB), we had to find the most 
performant way to retrieve our data into a nested structure. The 
choice was block! / hash! / list! / or object! . after a few tests, 
it appears that block! is the most suitable in terms of retrieval 
time. Note that this is true only for nested structures. In case 
of one-level structures, the hash! is the most performant (see http://www.rebol.net/article/0020.html).
Christophe:
1-Nov-2005
When I say most perfomant, I mean the retrieval time is two times 
shorter.
Graham:
2-Nov-2005
It's being continually released all the time.
MichaelB:
7-Nov-2005
As Christophe told on the mailinglist - we actually need both SAX 
and DOM, because if you have a large document and are only interested 
in a sequence of appearings of elements one at a time, you don't 
need DOM, but if you need information about the overall structure 
of a document you have to read in the whole document and that's DOM. 
But if Christophe is doing DOM already - don't know to what extend 
- this would be very nice and might be ok for now.
Christophe:
7-Nov-2005
I was fighting today to find the best internal data format. Out of 
the tests seems object! the most performant when using nested data 
structure. hash! when not nested. but the problem with object! is 
that we cannot have a recurrent element in the  structure, like:
<aaa>
   <bbb>content</bbb>
   <bbb bbb_attrib="attrib1"></bbb>
</aaa>

because, of course, when evaluated the last definition of bbb overrides 
the others.
So, we are trying to work with hash!

We got a little diminution of the overhead comparing to XML, but 
the processing time compare to block! seems from 10 to 20% more.

I need some more tests about data retrieving in the structure to 
find the right combination;
Any suggestion is welcome !
Group: PowerPack ... discussions about RP [web-public]
Maarten:
23-May-2005
I am the lead (and have been working on this some time).  Any code 
that you have that you want included you can send to me by email.
shadwolf:
24-May-2005
Ashley I'm Absolutly agreed with your point of view  !!! The way 
to participate actively to a project can take a lot of shapes. 1) 
make doc 2) making code optimisation 3) adding brand new code 4) 
debugging 5) giving feedbacks and needs 6)  making translation 7) 
making sample code (as far as I saw in my peronnal experience it's 
easier to understand how to use a thing if you provide a sample code 
that's an illustration not a goal. Sample code alone are only accessible 
to yet powerred users. Documentation without sample code is abstract. 
That's for example what I like in the rebol documentation diccionnary 
it explains and shows you concretly little sample to pretty understand 
the cancept explain... Making good doc is a hard and painfull task 
... If it belongs only to one people my personnal expirence shows 
me that the effort is not made along a long time... so it's obvious 
that we need a doc commity where people emulates each others and 
fixe periodically new goals. In French speaking community we all 
share teh same point of view that' why we try to put at disposal 
of all the people some usefull tools like a dokuwiki in http://www.rebolfrance.org
and doc collectors in http://www.rebolfrance.frand http://rebdocproj.sourceforge.net/) 
our public is french speaking mainly but we are so few that we can't 
say hey our tools are for french speaking people only. So if those 
tools seems you usefull for any project and any information sharing 
or cooperative work go ahead use them ;)
shadwolf:
24-May-2005
but the weak point is that REBOL coding is so gorgeous that you mmost 
of the time prefer spend your free time to make script than documenting 
them ;)
shadwolf:
24-May-2005
for example on french scene forum the amount of information on rebol 
coding is so high that we can't easyly synthetise it into a meanning 
documentation. Why ? because structural we choose a forum based interface 
betwin coders without taking strictly the time to produce a syntetic 
documentation for every issues that were submitted and discussed 
on the solution apported from the very beginning (a participant number 
issue is in the scope  too )
Volker:
27-May-2005
The BSD-free, you are right, is old. at that time the GPL was standard, 
just not written. if you asked someone how something worked, you 
got answer, examples, etc. was a closed group, such programmers, 
no need to think big about licensing.
Group: PgSQL ... PostgreSQL and REBOL [web-public]
Oldes:
2-Mar-2007
I don't know, I don't have/use psql for quite long time
DaveC:
29-May-2007
Ok thanks. I'll double check the exact number tommorrow, but it's 
the 8.1 series. LIMIT would be a good idea, but the query returns 
only one row. It's the amount of data in the one column that is the 
problem. (Whole HTML reports in one chunk). I was thinking that I 
should split up the report into a set of smaller chunks as it gets 
generated  anyway.


I'll give you some more info tommorrow. I appreciate you are busy 
with Cheyenne, so thanks for your time.
Dockimbel:
28-Mar-2011
Yes, there's a few  insertions to do on lower-level parts. I'll take 
a few minutes to do it after lunch. Btw, I don't have any pgsql server 
available, nor have time to setup one, so I'll let you test and eventually 
debug the new version. ;-)
Group: RT Q&A ... [RT Q&A] Questions and Answers to REBOL Technologies [web-public]
BrianH:
12-Oct-2005
(By request, relayed from rebcode group) Could you add an APPLY opcode 
to rebcode?

    apply: ["Apply function or path to arguments, save result" word! 
    word! | path! block!]

In rebcode:
    apply x f [arg1 arg2 ...]
Is equivalent to this in REBOL:
    x: do f arg1 arg2 ...


The advantage to doing function calls this way is that the arity 
of the opcode is fixed, even if the arity of the function called 
can't be known ahead of time. The value assigned to the function 
word could be either a function or a path, or for efficiency you 
could have a seperate opcode APPLYP for path values (I'd prefer just 
one opcode for generality but it's your call).
Gabriele:
13-Oct-2005
Q: What does the world on Nov-15-2005 look like?


A: Our main goal is to get REBOL into the hands of more users, not 
just programmers and techies.... by the millions over time.  By doing 
that, we create a market for not only handy free REBOL apps, but 
also for commercial apps and entire businesses that are related to 
REBOL.



Q: Given that  window transparency is OS specific, will there be 
a dialect that covers both Windows, Linux and 40+ other OS?  In other 
words, does RT plan on continued support of so many languages, or 
are we entering a new era of specific OS support?


A: Our plan is to make that a window option that is part of the face/options 
for a window.  If an OS does not support this mode, then the option 
will be ignored, but the application will still be fully functional.



Q: I hope it is still valid that cooperation with RT is possible. 
I mean - last few weeks I play with some Win32 functions (thanks 
to Gregg) and I would like we would have proper app behavior in multi-monitor/multi-desktop 
environments .... so I wonder if any SIGs will be created, some ppl 
will be invited to participate, comment etc., or if RT is gonna cook 
it all themselves?


A: Yes, there are many such special interest projects currently going 
on. (Most of them are occurring via private projects in AltME and 
IOS.)  These days 90% of REBOL changes are done in cooperation with 
the REBOL community.



Q: Hi .... with recent Rebcode releases, we can see that internally 
new Core is marked as 2.7 and View is marked as 1.4 Is it just working 
"title" or will those products be marked as that? And if so, can 
we know, what other changes will go for 1.4 View release target? 
Will there be any AGG fixes/additions (to support SVG RebGUI progress), 
or even VID changes? I still think, that VID is missing few fine 
styles as tab, group-box, better list as was introduced on IOS Developer's 
server, (eventually tree, menu), to allow novices to start using 
VID/View more productively. Any chance RT can tell us, what is the 
plan for 1.4 release?


A: Regarding 2.7 and 1.4 question: we change the revision numbers 
(the second number) whenever there is a major change in REBOL that 
may be unstable.  The /core 2.7 kernel (that is in /view 1.4 as well) 
adds new datatypes to REBOL, and they are the first datatypes added 
in several years, so we consider this to be a major change, and marked 
it that way.
Yes, we do plan to be making a few AGG fixes very soon.

Oh, and regarding VID: we plan to be making very big changes there. 
More to come soon.


Q: Could you add struct! support to /Core?

I keep on having situations that would be made much easier by struct! 
when I don't need libraries. For instance, conversions from external 
binary data encodings to internal REBOL values, say for file formats, 
network protocols and so on. Now rebcode has added other forms of 
strong typing like the type-specific opcodes and the vectors. Having 
structs with their constrained field types, their specific data layouts, 
would be a perfect match for the low level operations of rebcode. 
They would be helpful later when implementing your own data types 
as well.


A: On structs: yes, we will enable this feature on core, but it should 
only be used for lower level code.  Objects are more powerful.


Q: Could you add an APPLY opcode to rebcode?

    apply: ["Apply function or path to arguments, save result" word! 
    word! | path! block!]

In rebcode:
    apply x f [arg1 arg2 ...]
Is equivalent to this in REBOL:
    x: do f arg1 arg2 ...


The advantage to doing function calls this way is that the arity 
of the opcode is fixed, even if the arity of the function called 
can't be known ahead of time. The value assigned to the function 
word could be either a function or a path, or for efficiency you 
could have a seperate opcode APPLYP for path values (I'd prefer just 
one opcode for generality but it's your call).


A: I'm not sure what is meant by the path for it. You mean for refinements?
That may actually slow down the apply interface.
Pekr:
13-Oct-2005
The Q for next weeks round is:

(note - my view may be influenced by insufficient knowledge in the 
area given) - last weeks I played with wrapping some Win32 functions. 
I started discussion on dll.so channel, to ask developers, if they 
would enhance interfacing to C libraries in some way, and there was 
few ideas appearing. We currently have also rather strange callbacks 
support (limited to 16) and I would like to ask, taking into account 
that DLL interface in Rebol was not changed/enhanced since it appeared 
long time ago, if RT sees any area in which it could be made more 
robust, developers friendly etc.?
Pekr:
13-Oct-2005
Some time ago I talked with Carl here on AltME and mentioned PhotoThreads. 
Carl wanted me to keep an eye on it. There is newer version now. 
What is PhotoThreads can be read here: http://www.sics.se/~adam/pt/about.html
.... maybe we are lucky enough to get concurency with Rebol 3.x family 
:-)
Gabriele:
11-Dec-2005
Q: (note - my view may be influenced by insufficient knowledge in 
the area given) - last weeks I played with wrapping some Win32 functions. 
I started discussion on dll.so channel, to ask developers, if they 
would enhance interfacing to C libraries in some way, and there was 
few ideas appearing. We currently have also rather strange callbacks 
support (limited to 16) and I would like to ask, taking into account 
that DLL interface in Rebol was not changed/enhanced since it appeared 
long time ago, if RT sees any area in which it could be made more 
robust, developers friendly etc.?


A: We are planning to do a lot more on DLLs. In fact, future versions 
of REBOL will expand on the way DLLs are used in REBOL.   For example, 
I would like to see DLL support for media loaders and savers, so 
if we do not directly support a specific type of media file (say, 
TIFF) then an external DLL can be provided to load it.  There are 
a few other DLL related features down the road, but it is still a 
bit early to talk about them.



Q: I realize that the open sourcing of the viewtop wasn't that successful, 
but do you still intend to keep releasing newer versions of it? AFAIK 
the current release is over a year old. I've experienced a lot of 
obvious bugs in the viewtop editor, which I think can easily be solved 
by people outside RT.


A: yes we will continue to release newer versions.  View 1.3.2 fixed 
a number of bugs in the Viewtop editor that were listed in on RAMBO. 
Any fixes and enhancements from the community are greatly appreciated 
(by everyone, not only RT!)  You can post them to RAMBO, and we will 
review and include them (if they look good).



Q: While reviewing the action! functions, I noticed the path action. 
The doc comment says "Path selection.". The parameters aren't typed. 
Does anyone know what this action does, and how to use it? Or whether 
it can be or should be called directly at all?


A: the PATH action is what the interpreter uses to evaluate VALUE/selector 
expressions for each datatype. It is an internal action and has no 
external purpose in programs. These kinds of words often appear as 
a sort of "side-effect" from how REBOL is structured.  Datatypes 
are implemented as a sort of object class, where the interpreter 
"sends messages" to the class to evaluate expressions. The PATH action 
is a message that tells the datatype to perform a pick-like or poke-like 
internal function.


Q: Is rebcode going to support paths and/or some kind of binding?


A: Certain rebcode can support anything we feel is important to put 
into it, but note: many things we add could slow it down, by a lot. 
 For example, if we were to allow paths as variables, I estimate 
that rebcode would be about two times slower than it is now.  Perhaps 
one way to solve this issue is for you to use COMPOSE prior to specifying 
your rebcode body.  Within the compose, you can use IN object 'word 
to "pre-compute" the context references for words. For example:

    add.i (in object 'num) 10


Your question about binding is not clear to me. Rebcode already supports 
binding. Your rebcode can be part of an object context, and rebcode 
function words are bound to the code context.  (Perhaps you are referring 
to an older bug that has since been fixed?)



Q: What do you think about  http://mail.rebol.net/maillist/msgs/39493.html
? Why not say a word in your blog, if you think that it's interessant 
for rebol developpment, and if you want to contact them ?


A: Recently, I had the chance to sit down and talk with one of the 
main people from the One Laptop Per Child project (he is a friend 
of mine from Apple Computer days).  The project has an interesting 
goal, but there are also many difficult issues around it (not just 
in the technical side, but also on the social and cultural sides). 
My current understanding is that the target software is Smalltalk 
based. Yes, it would be very interesting to allow REBOL on that system, 
but if you look at the list of principals for the project, you will 
see that such a revolution is unlikely.  Is it possible that perhaps 
REBOL could provide some additional capability in the future? I think 
so. We have some special plans that I think will bring REBOL to platforms 
like that in the future. But, this is too early to say more.



Q: 1. What is fixed/added in 2.6.2/1.3.2 (change-log, please) ? 2. 
What is planned for 1.4.0 (rebcode, rebservices, rich-text, RIF, 
and last but not least, fixed sound ...) ? 3. When can we expect 
1.4.0 ? Thanks.


A: 1. Gregg is preparing a summary. The document should be available 
this week. 2. We are evaluating a large variety of changes in REBOL, 
more than even the 1.4 release that we've talked about.  I hope to 
be able to say more about these plans soon.
Volker:
11-Dec-2005
Its about passing objects as parameters. Then binding is not known 
at compile-time, and changing anyway. It can be an ugly extra instruction.
Louis:
11-Jan-2006
I wonder if there is a C dll somewhere that would give unicode support 
to the SDK. I have been searching the web for one, but haven't found 
anything yet. I hate the thought of going back to C, as I haven't 
programmed in C for a long time.
Pekr:
26-Jan-2006
maybe because demo upload script was promissed to be on-line on 8th 
of January, but so far ppl don't know, where to upload their demos. 
But, as I suggested, I don't expect there will be more than 5 - 6 
participants, so instead of losing time to code such upload script, 
maybe it would be wiser to tell publicly an email address, where 
participants should send their demos :-)
Ingo:
1-Feb-2006
What's the current state and future plans of Rebol/Services? It's 
been a long time since there have been any news ...
Pekr:
1-Feb-2006
It's been long time since we heard any plans ...
Pekr:
26-Jun-2006
Gabriele - but maybe it would be worth to publish some blog article, 
about the state of Rebol 3. I know that every single project is delayed, 
but it starts to look strange once again - alpha in may, beta in 
June. It is end of June, according to another blog Carl is supposed 
to spend several weeks in France at that time, and no mention of 
when aproximately alpha will be out?
Gabriele:
28-Jun-2006
i guess it's just that Carl hasn't had the time. I did fix some mezz 
bugs for that release...
Group: Windows/COM Support ... [web-public]
Brett:
14-Oct-2005
It is wise, because it allows integration with what is out there 
right now (as opposed to two years time). Microsoft itself showed 
the importance of Word being able to integrate some years ago - helps 
people make a switch when they can still get to their legacy data.
Geomol:
14-Oct-2005
Then your work might not be vasted in two years time.
BrianH:
14-Oct-2005
I am not the one who does the work in Excel. Accountants do. It is 
not my choice to make, and the choice can't be made at all for historical 
records. At the time they switched to Excel, yes I was the one who 
championed it, but there was no OpenOffice then, no KOffice, no REBOL, 
no Windows 95 even. I am just called in to do the things that are 
over their head and when I'm done, these things usually don't need 
to be done again. Two years from now a new set of problems wil need 
to be solved and they will likely still be using Excel.
Geomol:
14-Oct-2005
It might be necessary to do the COM interface do to circumstances!? 
Maybe the company can't switch any time soon. I was just suggesting, 
that all the powder used to support COM might be better used.
BrianH:
14-Oct-2005
On that note, time to go off and think about this. Later!
Pekr:
14-Oct-2005
btw: IIRC DocKimbel did some work on ActiveX interfacing some time 
ago. Sadly he is not active nor does he respond to email, so dunno 
if we could start from some already existing codebase ...
Benjamin:
20-Oct-2005
yes i've to change all that in the examples, it will take some time 
... :(  and it will generate some erros im shure
Volker:
1-Nov-2005
time-limitation? YOu get as many 5-minutes-encapps as you want for 
free?
Henrik:
1-Nov-2005
time-limitation built into the encapped program?
Henrik:
1-Nov-2005
time limits are mostly annoying, but doesn't hamper usage in that 
time. I don't think the GUI or other things should be obscured
Volker:
1-Nov-2005
No, i thought a click-away-spashscreen and then normal app. But for 
$5-encap testing time seems best.
BrianH:
1-Nov-2005
Yes, so far Benjamin's been the only one with the expertise who's 
been able to put in the time to implement COM support.
Benjamin:
13-Nov-2005
sorry i've been out for a while, the as i said before im working 
on a solution for those who dont have the /pro license, im working 
on the security of such a client because it opens a gate on a tcp 
port, the security must be hight imagine why... the development time 
has take more than i've ever imagine ....
Benjamin:
13-Nov-2005
never the less i think it would be done in a cuple of weeks, i know 
i need to document as much as possible but i need time :( it will 
be here soon ...
Brett:
14-Dec-2005
Issue 2 - Photoshop method PrintOut only works the first time, subsequent 
calls are silently ignored.


I had a loop so my workaround was to Quit photoshop programmatically, 
then restart it with Call - bit of a sledgehammer but I generated 
my cards :)
Brett:
14-Dec-2005
Not a big issue for me now, but would be good to solve these for 
next time.
Brett:
14-Dec-2005
P.s both of these I tried at console and I think I did try a wait 
at the time.
Brett:
14-Dec-2005
On issue 2, I've done some more testing this time with VB script 
and same result - just one print.  However, trying a different printer 
- multiple prints work using VB script and REBOL/comlib. So it may 
be the printer driver that is causing me problems.
Anton:
28-Jun-2006
I will be checking out RebCall at some time to see if it can be used.
http://mortimer.devcave.net/projects/rebcall
Anton:
30-Jun-2006
Now is a good time because it's fresh in my mind.
Cyphre:
20-Jul-2006
Yes, with the DLL interface you can theoretically create native-like 
GUI system according to your needs if you have enough time/motivation 
;)
Pekr:
20-Jul-2006
I think time of "amiga" (in the sense of non traditional look to 
apps), is coming back in Internet age ...
Cyphre:
20-Jul-2006
...it should not be a luxury item either that you have to pay for

 Well, this all depends on the conditions.  You can expect this as 
 free stuff in Java world with much bigger developer base. But I don't 
 believe anyone here in our small comunity have enough time/resources 
 to spent hunderds hours on such project just to make some people 
 from the comunity happy and provide solution for their commercial 
 app for free ;)
Anton:
11-Aug-2006
Fourth. This time, I didn't receive any notification, so it was unexpected.
Group: Plugin-2 ... Browser Plugins [web-public]
JoshM:
4-May-2006
Here's my thinking on priority on the plugin project:

 1. IE plugin for 1.3.2 -- we'll have this online within a couple 
 of days.

 2. Mozilla plugin for 1.3.2 -- features equivalent to the IE plugin, 
 although we may need to chop a few things out (do-browser for instance).

 3. IE plugin for 1.3.3 -- the most important new features we can 
 include in a relatively short time-frame release.

 4. Mozilla plugin for 1.3.3 -- again, features equivalent to the 
 IE plugin, but this is equal priority with the next item.

 4. IE plugin for REBOL 3.0 -- new features that will ship with REBOL 
 3.0 (multithreading/multiple instances per browser, etc.)
	5. Mozilla plugin for REBOL 3.0 -- features equivalent to IE
JoshM:
4-May-2006
thanks for the feedback. i apologize if i conveyed the idea that 
security discussions are noise. What I mean is that I don't have 
the bandwidth to sift through pages of discussion and build the plugin 
at the same time. So, for my sake, we need some kind of itemized 
system where Carl and I can tackle the issues one-by-one.
Graham:
4-May-2006
I dislike being asked by my kids to install stuff for them all the 
time ...
Adrian_S:
5-May-2006
That's a great video - was totally amazed the first time I saw it
JoshM:
5-May-2006
Volker, that is true. But the problem here is not COM interface/version 
compatibility. The problem here is: "Which REBOL binary to load?" 
Very simply put, if a web site relies upon plugin version 1.3.2, 
we must make sure that 1.3.2 -- or a later version backwards-compatible 
with 1.3.2 -- loads on their computer. At the same time, we need 
to deliver critical security updates and other non-breaking updates 
to users in a seamless manner.
[unknown: 9]:
5-May-2006
If there is a problem after an update to a plugin, and you do not 
notify the user that there was a problem, there is no way for them 
to know what caused the problem, and they will waste thier time trying 
to hunt it down.  If you simply notify them when things are updated, 
they can connect the problem to the closest issue.
Pekr:
9-May-2006
I would make it also some 5% transparent, black and white design 
.... top bar displaying some basic buttons, date/time and progress 
dialog ... kind of minimalistic aproach ....
Cyphre:
10-May-2006
Henrik: event throtling: maybe you could use the event time filtering/compression 
made by Gabriele or Romano for that purpose? Or write your own.
Pekr:
11-May-2006
and under my WindowsXP, the plug-in is obtrusive - while it is installed,I 
get IE message each time, asking me if I want to allow activeX control 
- it happens on main plug-in demo page
Henrik:
11-May-2006
pekr, maybe it's related to how there can be only one instance of 
the plugin running at a time. maybe when reloading, the first instance 
is never shut down
Henrik:
11-May-2006
but why exactly is once instance at a time a problem? why is this 
limitation there?
Gabriele:
12-May-2006
i mean - i cannot fix it if i don't have the master source file. 
we can send improvements to carl, but i don't think he has time to 
consider them right now.
ScottT:
15-May-2006
Looks like Volker covered the security issues I'd note.  About Rebol 
as a COM server process--I would think that would be the way to go. 
 Pretty sure that is how Acrobat runs, too.  Basically, the first 
time you run into a PDF on the web Acrobat32 starts, and handles 
all instances.
Oldes:
16-May-2006
Rebol as a plugin is here more then 2 years. It was plenty of time 
to do evil things
Group: Games ... talk about using REBOL for games [web-public]
Pekr:
16-Jan-2007
Maxim - and my opinion is that we have to decide - either stop bothering 
Carl with old stuff, or getting R3 sooner. Carl is full-time on R3 
.... so ...
[unknown: 9]:
16-Jan-2007
I don't know where I put it, but I once built a detailed checklist 
of functions we would build for each game platform we worked on. 
 I designed the game interface for WebTV, which also did not have 
Key Up.

The basics are:


Input: Key up, and at least 3 simultaneous key overlap.  This is 
needed because during actual game place, people will press directional 
and fire buttons at the same time.


Video: Double buffer - triple buffer is better.  Without this, one 
needs to know where the beam is (called beam tracing) so that rendering 
happens on the sync.


Threading:  It is very difficult to write a game in a single thread. 
 At the very least it needs to be able to trigger functions.


Sound: Sounds need to be started, stopped, and volume changed on 
the fly.  Multiple channels (4 minimum) for a full experience.
Maxim:
16-Jan-2007
since game play is about improving your agents, and their statistics, 
this is done slowly and true evolution occurs.  you are free to create 
forks at any point too... but having many agents to update will obviously 
mean you loose time, but have better specialised agents... hehe all 
part of the strategy.
Maxim:
17-Jan-2007
I haven't had a lot to time to put on the development side of that 
concept.  so I never really tried to go into such detail.  I have 
to much to do these days, but as part of the time I put on "fun" 
coding, I eventually will get to it... especially since most of my 
low-level apis are comming to fruition  :-)
Mario:
4-Jun-2007
Some time ago I was writing an Ants game (originally written in Peter 
Language 1 player vs computer) and wanted to port it to REBOL with 
2 player (online too)
ICarii:
28-Jun-2007
ideally ill dust off terragen and make my own backdrops when i get 
a little more time
801 / 772112345678[9] 1011...7475767778