AltME groups: search

hmmm one of those spastic images on that site is crashing my firefox

It'll go up in the next upload of the site.

Hm, our Syllable convention was reported on a Danish site, and it 
immediately spawned what I called an ABS movement (Anything But Syllable) 
in which every imaginable operating system was mentioned as an alternative, 
instead of responding to the subject. There could easily be an Anything 
But REBOL movement, as well...

guys, that is completly unrealistic as 1) RT's site simply sucks 
2) Announcement page contains broken links 3) It is still kind of 
vaporware announcement like Amiga Inc. did and bad habit of RT - 
announcing things BEFORE they are ready 4) if it would be ready, 
there should be some thought out code/service examples on-line, with 
real-life functionality exposed, so actually ppl could try something 
usefull 5) What is Scot doing as marketing manager if the position 
still exists? RT just can't mean it that way, right? Producing ultra 
cool sw will not help you, if not marketed properly, at least here 
in Europe

Here's the author's site, where you can read many of his essays:
http://www.walkablestreets.com

Badly designed cities are a problem......They need upgrading to the 
standards of the best.
Another site for some inspiration:
http://www.carfree.com/

OK, so 1) Is there a web site set up for the RDC yet? 2) The deadline 
is 31-12/11:59:59. Is it GMT? 3) I hope that 32kB limitaion is final. 
Is that true? 3) Will the submited demos be available publicly before 
deadline? (I vote no). Hm, I've got only 14 days left. I should better 
hurry up ;)

For things that do exist:

Resources:

- http://www.rebol.com- corporate site, you will find docs linked 
there

- http://www.rebol.net- developer's central. Sadly site was much 
more rich, but there was a server crash some time ago. But - still 
valuable rources - test releases, Carl's blogs, RAMBO bug database 
etc.

also - in Rebol/View, start desktop and go to rebol.com site to see 
some tools, demos. Right clicking them you can get to its source 
code ...

I believe in Carl's vision "REBOL is perfect for lightweight distributed 
applications". Users need light-weight responsive gui clients that 
can work both online and offline. The evolution of the Web is moving 
(slowly) in this direction, with AJAX/Flash/JavaFX as examples of 
a more responsive and rich gui clients, BUT it's too complex and 
unreliable. The industry is adding kludge upon kludge to "fix" the 
problems resulting in further complexity and code bloat, but what 
is needed is a clean approach that captures the essence of what made 
the web a phenomal success in the first place - any body could set 
up/develop a web site and they did. Enterprise data centers need 
scalable, reliable, manageable (server) applications that run 24x7 
on commodity hardware ata reasonable price. The user PC's should 
require zero management for the applications, which is the primary 
(only?) attraction of the web ui. Question if the application is 
simple to manage and delivers the functionality the user wants, why 
do they need a fat complex os? As an example my kids get online to 
play games, research homework, etc. and they hate it (so do I) when 
the PC/OS gets in the way. Also, that PC/OS is a major source of 
 trouble with viruses and lack of (simple) control to what my kids 
can access.

RayA; I'm of two minds on this one.  I'm attempting to show construction 
site bosses 

how to be 'good' REBOL programmers.  Very simple, data driven code 
sequences.

If you want to be a 'good REBOL' programmer, hang out here and watch 
for posts

from the likes of Anton, Henrik, Gregg, Ashley, well...most of the 
players here.


But a 'good' REBOL programmer can be anyone, in my humble opinion.

I've never heard of such a script, Steeve.

It does not seem to be on REBOLtech (a forerunner to REBOL.org). 
You could try some more detailed searches than I did if you want 
to look further
http://www.reboltech.com/library/scripts/
****

Sadly, a lot of good stuff gets published on personal websites, and 
when the enthusiasm for REBOL wanes, or the site is taken offline 
for some reason, the scripts are lost to the wider community.

helpers = suggestions ... historically there were 2 or 3 lists with 
various suggestions, to some of them even Carl said he could consider 
to add them. First one was Robert's site, next one was yours, and 
several times ono various altme channels?

Lots of other interesting stuff on that site.

use can use time-block to make sure (it's on my site)

I was just on the mySQL site and did a search for REBOL and was surprised 
to find 0 hits.

yes, we have very good mysql driver, I wonder why it is not submitted 
there. IIRC I talked to Doc about it, and he told me, that some time 
ago it was there, but then mySQL IIRC redesigned site or something 
like that. He wated to wait for 1.0 release. It is now released, 
works with latest incarnations, so maybe we could ask Doc to submit 
it to mysql.com folks? Or just to get his approval to do so? It would 
be nice, if rebol would be listed there ...

The new MySQL web site is much less third-parties friendly. It looks 
like MySQL doesn't want to give much attention on alternatives drivers. 
They want ppl to use their own drivers and nothing other. The new 
MySQL protocol licence is more restrictive than before. They described 
a GPLed protocol concept (which a IMO, a very stupid concept...) 
See : http://dev.mysql.com/doc/internals/en/licensing-notice.html

Of course, I didn't use the protocol documentation on the web site 
(due to license restriction and also because, the documentation is 
deeply flawed (intentionnaly??).

OOPS! didn't mean to hit ENTER. sorry. Anyway, there used to be a 
test site at http://powerofq.com- it is no longer available, I believe 
that the test module was 'mysqlprot. are those resources still available?

but in any case, rebol.org is a community space.  although the site 
H/W and domain is "owned" by RT ,  the actual service has no useage 
limits AFAIK.

I want that url to be returned internally by rebol cgi script, so 
that displaying source of main site will not reveal target site ...

now the only problem for me is, that in above code, I want to call 
cgi, so that looking at frame source target site is not easily revealed 
....

Could you post a link to site you want to get printed?

Sunanda: I quote you from another forum: Tim: A general purpose uploader 
would be very useful. I'll drop you some notes privately on some 
ideas for what it should/could do.....Looking forward to it! My idea 
is of a cgi upload script that for any cgi script, first checks a 
web site and compares timedate stamps, checking to make sure that 
dependencies are current and if not, makes them also available for 
upload. BTW: Some time ago on the rebol ML,

there was reference to an enhanced FTP module. Does that ring a bell? 
<grin> or was that you?

that web site reports the time in GMT

I really like the bit in the middle where they discuss the merits 
and flaws of JavaScript versus CSS for site interactivity.

I want a report to give me a good overview about the year, current 
month etc. AWStats looks good in this. I like the visits and sample 
trials reports of wusage. Shows how people browse your site.


Clicks-to-result must be as low as possible. Simple to install, configure 
and use.

read-thru: func [

    {Read a net file from thru the disk cache. Returns binary, else none 
    on error.}
    url [url! file!]

    /progress callback {Call func [total bytes] during transfer.  Return 
    true.}
    /update "Force update from source site"
    /expand "Auto-decompress after transfer."

    /check {Update only if version, checksum/secure, or date/size do 
    not match.} info

    /to "Specify a file target, not cache." local-file [file! none!]
    /local file data purl loc-path
][
    vbug ['read-thru url info]
    if none? file: path-thru url [return none]
    if local-file [file: local-file]
    if all [not update exists-thru?/check file info] [
        if error? try [data: read/binary file] [return none]
        return data
    ]
    if file? url [
        if error? try [data: read/binary url] [return none]
        return data
    ]
    loc-path: first split-path file
    if data: read-net/progress url :callback [
        if not exists? loc-path [make-dir/deep loc-path]
        if all [expand find/match data "rebpress"] [

            if error? try [data: decompress skip data 8] [return none]
        ]
        write/binary file data
        if all [check block? info info/2] [

            error? try [set-modes file [modification-date: info/2]]
        ]
    ]
    vbug ['read-thru-ok? found? data]
    data
]

I downloaded a page from a web site, but it will not display.  Could 
this have something to do with frames? What must I do to get this 
file to display?

Perhaps on the REP site ?

you're right.  worked first time today.  I had encountered it again 
through someone else's site, but when I went through rebol.com, it 
worked fine.  very good.

my mistake.  That samair site seems unaccessible to me.

see english translation on RIT site

Yes, the information has been encoded on the main site with a compression 
format (French) for which you don't have a decompression utility.

Good news / bad news

The good news is that MS are beta-ing Internet Explorer 7, so it's 
a good chance to see how well your website may look in that browser 
(like it or not it is liekly to become a dominent browser)
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/ie7/default.mspx


The bad news is  two-fold: they have fixed most of the well-known 
CSS hacks; if you use the hacks your site may not render properly 
in IE7.  Second, it is not easy to install IE7 alongside any existing 
IE version -- it's a reversible upgrade (in theory), so you might 
want to try it on a spare partition/machine.

Windows only at this stage, of course.

I use a number of sites which don't work in FF.  Annoying.. but ASP 
.. not seen that one as opposed to a site problem.

The web standards annoy me.  They are supposed to help make things 
more compatible but this isn't the case.  It is easy to build a webstandard 
complient web site that doesn't look ANYTHING like it should according 
to the standard in ANY browser.

guys, you are unbelievable bashers of Mozilla
 I'm not! ;)


I've been testing four different browsers on my Mac (Safari, Opera, 
Firefox and Firefox PPC - http://www.furbism.com/firefoxmac/) and 
while the PPC build is 9.5MB compared to Opera's 5.5MB (which also 
includes M2 mail), it is noticeably faster than the other browsers 
and has not crashed once since I installed it 2 weeks ago. The only 
problem I've encountered is with my !@#$%^& bank's IE-only site (even 
with Opera I have to change spoof modes depending upon which particular 
page of the site I'm at, and Safari works fine except when the site 
tries to open a PDF statement within the browser using an Adobe Reader 
plugin – never mind the fact that Mac handles PDF natively ... !@#$%&).

As I said, the RSS feed is explicitly intended to feed data to other 
programs for formatting, so it doesn't (perhaps can't) look nice.

All the info is available in human friendly ways elsewhere on the 
site, eg:

script library changes: http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/script-index.r

I am putting up a new web site. It works fine on my own computer, 
but when I send it to the remote server it fails to load one of the 
jpg files. The jpg is one the server. All the other jpg files load 
fine. Any idea what might be wrong?

Sorry about the CRLF ..... you don't want to be checking the timestamps 
on the server with a slow connection. Just hold the last updated 
value locally and if it changes then transfer the file.  Same for 
deleting ... else you spend all of your time checking on the server 
over a slow connection.    You could check the timestamps or hash 
the local value ... then if  the hash value of the source changes, 
transfer the updated version.     There's some code to do some of 
this in build-sie.r  http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/view-script.r?script=build-site.r
 but it's a rebol-ish task.

Thanks, Mike. I'm studying the build-site.r code now.

if you are on an unreliable or slow connection, you might experience 
timeouts which will in turn cause network errors. I recently worked 
on a similar system and you have to basically wrap all code that 
access the internet in TRY and do a lot of error trapping and possibly 
some retrying to ensure that uploads and downloads of entire filesets 
are done correctly. The code in build-site.r will not do that, so 
you have to restart the upload if it fails.

Hi. Is it possible Google does not index properly our http://www.jablunkovsko.cz
site, because links to particular subsites are burried in java-script 
menu? I created account with google, and checked my robots.txt allows 
engine to visit my site ....

example - try site:http://www.jablunkovsko.czbowling .... in google 
- only one link will show, whereas I would like the result to include 
(go to menu) "sport a relaxace"/bowling ....

pekr, link to site is dead

Javascript only links will stop pretty much every spider.....So you 
won't appear in many search engines at all.

You will also be breaking a lot of people's assistive technologies 
(like screen readers for visually disabled people).

Best to have a site that is fully navigable via plain HTML links. 
Then add the clever stuff on top of that.
Google's advice:

http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?answer=35769
http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/
***

A high score here usually means you have  a person-friendly and spider 
friendly website:
http://www.cynthiasays.com/

New REBOL FrameWork

The site http://agora-dev.orghave moved to http://rebol.dev.fr(international).

Our new site is release http://www.whywire.com(our router uses rebol 
inside) ;-)

Try this application to test Webservices: to spy and test HTTP protocols, 
or to test a site (client or server part): go at http://dev.fr/view.php?sid=164

I just updated the DevCon web site.

I would like your permission to publish some of the groups here on 
R3 to the web site. See:
http://www.rebol.net/article/0183.html


The only groups that will be published will be those that have descriptions 
that contain the string [web-public].


If I do not hear any objections (post them to "Carl Only" group), 
I will fire up the scripts and get this started.

This might be a stretch, a leap of faith or something that may fail 
or not. I've made an entry in Wikibooks for REBOL, which basically 
allows anyone to write a book about REBOL. There are books on many 
other languages on the site and I thought that this could give REBOL 
two things: 1. A book and 2. Exposure.


Start your text editors at this address: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Programming:REBOL

I made some changes to my site http://www.rebol.it/~romano/- added 
anamonitor 3 and other things.

Same in french / Le même en français : la traduction française du 
User Guide de REBOL Core est terminée. Elle est disponible sur le 
site du Rebol Documentation Project http://www.rebdocproj.org/article.php3?id_article=197, 
en version PDF. Enjoy !

I'm experimenting again with mediawiki .. previously this site wouldn't 
work as the host only had an early version of mysql.  Now, that they 
have updated it, it is live!

http://compkarori.com/rebolwiki

The Gripe:


Go here www.Rebol.org, then go here: http://www.ruby-lang.org/en/, 
then here: http://java.sun.com/, hell even go here, http://msdn.microsoft.com/vbasic/, 
now go back to www.Rebol.com


Even if you don't know what the language is or does, do you want 
to go to Rebol.org?  The main page looks like the last page in the 
basement of a website.  Almost like an "error page"

O There is no single location for all Rebol information.

O Rebol.net, Rebol.com, and Rebol.org are spread out and run by RT. 
O There is no pizzas!
O I don't "feel" community when I visit these sites.


I know I'm not talking to my audience when I say; "think of this 
like a night club" but this is what this is all about.  People want 
to "be where the fun is happening."  Even programmers.

My Suggestion:

O We need a site controlled by the developers.

O We need a forum where people can bitch and meet each other, and 
feel welcome.

O The site needs to have a consistent dynamic attractive template.

O The site needs to be a clearing house for all other sites.  Teach 
and directing people to all the resources.

O The site needs to paint a picture as opposed to describe everything 
with a thousand words.

What is entailed:


O Start a new site, I would propose "RebolCentral.com"  I'm willing 
to pay for it, but I don't want to be in charge of it, I suggest 
we make it a committee.


O The main page should cover every topic and reason anyone would 
come to the site.  This means we support every country and other 
site.  The idea here is a clearing house of centralized information. 


O News: The site needs to gather news worthy information and post 
that at the top.  The site is not alive unless people have a way 
to post their information.  This means that there needs to be at 
least one editor, if not several that share the task.  Every time 
a product is updated, the new features are mentioned.  When Carl 
updates his blog, it gets a single sentence directing people there, 
unless it is news of a release of something.  Etc.


O Product Reviews:   This is key.  Products need to be rated, reviewed, 
categorized, voted on.

O Video Archive: All the videos of all the talks ever given   


O Tutorials:  there are a lot of tutorials out there, but which are 
best?  We need to review the tutorials, rate them by Beginner, Intermediate, 
Advanced.  


O Forum: Start with major topics, and then break it down.  The forum 
needs to direct people to other countries, or support the other countries 
right in the forum.  Great simple forum: http://discussion.treocentral.com/index.php?styleid=1


O Respect the real estate.  The #1 mistake people make is treating 
their websites like just pages.  This is just like real estate, location 
location location.  We need to place the content based on where people 
are going.  So you build the basic site, watch it for a couple of 
weeks, then shift things around based on where people are actually 
going. 


O More art, more photos, more community.   It needs to feel inviting: 
http://msdn.microsoft.com/events/pdc/

Stone soup:


I will pay for, host, and supply a fast linux system (w/archive). 
 

I will help design the templates, and provide (and buy if needed) 
great art for the site.

I will not run the site, nor control the content, but I expect there 
to be in place all the items outlined above, set up in a manner that 
it a) runs itself, b) puts the power in the hands of the developers.

Viewtop-extenders: To get started: launch-thru/update http://polly.rebol.it/test/site-desktop.r

That desktop does not ask security-questions, some pathes patched.

That way you can put a personalized desktop on your site, which can 
be launched from the real one. It patches the inbuild one, so size 
is 1242 bytes.

http://www.compkarori.com/reb/download-manager.r


is a wrapper around Anton's batch download script.  It reads a configuration 
file(s) from a site and loads the data into the script.

This is as: file description url and then extended file description.

Defaults are embedded into the script and are used if the read fails.
You can use it to download iso files etc.

http://home.wilddsl.net.au/anton/rebol/util/batch-download.r

http://home.wilddsl.net.au/anton/rebol/util/demo-batch-download.r
  ; <--- this will get my SITE variable wrong, but look in it for 
usage

My site is operational once again (athough not all files available 
yet, lots of good stuff)
http://anton.wildit.net.au/

Site http://www.fm.tul.cz/~ladislav/rebol/updated (Spider.r, REBOL 
identity article). Tried to post the info to the ML, but didn't succeed

It's http://www.fm.tul.cz/~ladislav/rebol/rebol.zipunder 1.3 The 
contents of this site
Good work in documenting your articles.
Is there sample data to run for spider.r ?

REBOL [
    Title:   "Slideshow"
    Date:    12-Oct-2006
    Name:    'SLIDESHOW  ; For window title bar
    Version: 1.0.0
    File:    %slideshow.r
    Author:  "Louis A. Turk"
    Rights:  "Public Domain; use at your own risk."
    Needs:   "A version of REBOL/VIEW supporting sound"

    Purpose: {To make possible simple, easy to make narrated slide shows.

              Hopefully can be used with the REBOL plugin to show narriated slides
              on a web site.

              Hopefully can an effective tool to teach REBOL programming.
    }
    Note: {
        The concept and design originated with Louis A. Turk.

        DideC helped considerably by answering programming questions and 
        giving bits of code;
        it would not have been possible without his help.
	Josh also answered programming questions.


        You can make wav files using the free program Audacity. http://audacity.sourceforge.net


        Advanced JEPG Compressor does and excellent job compressing graphics 
        files so they load 
        faster, but is not free.
    }
    History: [
        1.0.0 [ "First release." "Louis"]
    ]

    Language: 'English
]

;Requires a data file named %slides.r containing lines of blocks 
in the following format:

;Each block must contain: (1) slidename, (2) overlay, (3) caption, 
(4) sound.

;Example block: [%slide1.jpg "Overlay text." "A caption!" %sound.wav]
;Use "" for no overlay or caption.


;file: request-file/title/only "Select the slides data file to use." 
"Select Data File"

file: %slides.txt ;uncomment the above line, and comment this one 
to select data files with different names.
slides: load file
narrate: func [talk] [ ;--- Manage the sound
    sound-port: open sound://
    insert sound-port load talk
    wait sound-port
    close sound-port
]

view/new win: layout/size [] 650x650 ;<= Set the max size you need
wait 0  ;---Initialize REBOL's internal event handler.
foreach slide  slides [ ;--- Start the slide show
    set [graphic overlay caption narration] slide
    lay: layout [
        origin 0

        banner center bold red "A REBOL Produced Narriated Slide Show" 
        image graphic overlay 500x400 frame black [unview] [quit]
        text 500 bold caption
        button "Quit" center [quit]
    ]
    center-face/with lay win
    append clear win/pane lay
    show win
    narrate narration
]
do-events

see the bottom of this page to have this information http://www.rebolfrance.info/utiliser_ce_site

load-thru/update site/rebgui/slider.r
do site/rebgui/demo-slider.r

site: http://www.lexicon.net/antonr/rebol/

>> view-root
== %/d/rebol/view/temp
>> site: http://www.lexicon.net/antonr/rebol/
== http://www.lexicon.net/antonr/rebol/
>> load-thru/update site/rebgui/slider.r
== [
    context [
        slider: [
            size: 4x40
            data: 0
            color: ctx-rebgui/colors/widget
    ...
>> do site/rebgui/demo-slider.r

** Access Error: Cannot open /d/rebol/view/programs/rebgui/rebgui.r
** Where: halt-view
** Near: do view-root/../programs/rebgui/rebgui.r
include [
    site/rebgui/slider.r [slider]
]
query/clear

I could handle it by keeping a distribution of rebgui on my site, 
unpacked.

site: http://www.lexicon.net/antonr/rebol/
load-thru/check site/rebgui/slider.r 1.0.4

do site/rebgui/demo-slider.r  ;<-- modify this file to point to your 
rebgui installation

site: http://www.lexicon.net/antonr/rebol/
load-thru/check site/rebgui/slider.r 1.0.5
load-thru/check site/rebgui/pair-edit.r 1.0.1

do site/rebgui/demo-slider.r  ;<-- modify this file to point to your 
rebgui installation

load-thru/update site/rebgui/slider.r ; (just now updated slider.r 
again, same version)

site: http://www.lexicon.net/antonr/rebol/
load-thru/check site/rebgui/slider.r 1.0.6
do site/rebgui/demo-slider.r

In teh readme.txt it could be usefull to make some text about your 
web site; You can find illustration about how to use rengu in tour.r 
file and you can refeer to http://www.dobeash.com/reguifor complete 
and detailled documentation. You can contact me directly for any 
suggestion bugreport improvement in AlteME REBOL3

Ashley, the very first web site I visited .. cnn.com, has these menus 
down the left hand side coloured in blue, with the active one in 
red.

If you click on the red one ie. the active one, it still refreshes 
the page for you.

th only person that can split the licence for a project is teh author 
it self and one import thing is to publish the work ... that way 
your GPL  work will gain public notority the date of publication 
into a tiers site like sourceforge or rebol.org can be recieved by 
the court as proof of the anteriority of your work upon the derivation 
;)

Pekr I don't think so if you see the AGG library web site you will 
see lot of example of you to use AGG with SVG ... But there we are 
working in C++ and not in REBOL ...

... all good things here - as working cooperation of dev community 
with RT should be used as marketing advantage and should be described 
on web-site as a good, working model .... that should happen on REBOL.com 
- but creating of new site needs real strategy, especially marketing 
wise ...

Yes. Something like this atomic modells. Each ball is a site and 
you can move along the connections :)

Sorry, the source _site_ has a lot of good source _code_ :)

just like we just SEND a mail, READ a web site, or WRITE an ftp server. 
 if we could also LOAD/SAVE any XML technologies (XML files, DTDs, 
Schemas, etc), then R3 would immediately get appeal in the corporate 
world.  It would actually have value to them .

I'm seeing some possibilities here ... for combining multiple tools 
to build web sites.  We have Max's Remark which can preprocess scripts 
which cuts down considerably on writing web pages, Cheyenne for serving 
them up, and Chris' QM to structure the site's logic/display.

I've converted my site to https as well using the above howto .. 
only took 2 mins.  As you say, I have to generate a new certificate.

https://www.compkarori.co.nz/

I just recently received whole new website for our Xidys site ... 
it is - templates, but there is some php code in there, and it sucks 
- they did not tell me ;-) Unfortunatelly, templates are easy. They 
did a trick, when whole top, bottom section plus left menu is one 
template, and content is "included" into the template, according 
to what item you choose in the menu. The advantage is - you don't 
have repeating part on more than one place. Disadvantage is - when 
you want to display the content part, you easily can't, as that template 
waits for inclusion, does not have headers, and hence it does not 
link to css - that aproach sucks, it does not work without whole 
production environment ....

Graham: there's some experimental stuff about that in mod-internal, 
but still needs some improvement to be ready to encap a complete 
web site in the Cheyenne binary. But that's a planned feature, I'll 
provide better support for that in a week or 2.

hmm.. followed the instructions.. uncommented the httpd.conf (need 
to comment out the others??)

[uniserve] Async Protocol FastCGI loaded
[uniserve] Starting task-master...
[uniserve] Starting HTTPd...

## Error in [uniserve] : On-received call failed with error: make 
object! [
    code: 303
    type: 'script
    id: 'expect-arg
    arg1: 'in
    arg2: 'object
    arg3: [object! port!]
    near: [if in site 'on-request [
            if site/on-request req params svc [return true]
        ]]
    where: 'handler
] !

Other question: how do I create a friendly URL mapping in Cheyenne? 
using the publish-site dialect?

If you're using Cheyenne in embed-mode, 'publish-site let you define 
whatever URL mapping you want. In standalone Cheyenne, there's no 
general way to define URL mapping, it's currently up to each module 
(CGI, RSP,...) to handle their specific mappings. I'm hoping that 
the future mod-rewrite will allow efficient and general URL mapping 
(there's a mod-rewrite published by Will, who could already do that).

Terry: that's the intended behaviour, if you request /testapp, it 
calls the 'testapp function in root object (or 'default func if 'testapp 
is not defined), it you request /testapp/, it calls the 'default 
function in the 'testapp object. But that's the demo "site", you 
can change the behaviour in your own "site" if it doesn't fit your 
needs.

mod-router: you mean being able to translate the request URLs for 
a whole site, based on a sitemap description ?

that could be useful when refactoring a whole web site that is already 
deeply indexed by search bots and want to keep  it's high ranking...

Or when you wat to translate: http://site?aap=noot&q=wto http://site/aap/noot/q/w

detective source should be somewhere on surfnet site... but i probably 
should put a zip on my site too.

As much as I like the idea of Cheyenne i thing the Rebol plugin is 
the future. The adobe and Microsoft solutions seem to bypass HTML. 
 If R3 can offer aht I think it promises why creat an html base site 
if you can make a rebol app and "plug it in"  to the site.

Perhaps this is more a chat related issue.  How would you feel if 
you went to a site  index.html  (explicitly .html)  and later found 
out it was actually an rsp  file with an .html filename.   Is that 
dirty-pool in web land?  I'm asking as Cheyenne .rsp makes it so 
easy to keep track of page hits and there are no <script> tags required 
and no redirects etc etc. I haven't turned it on in production peoplecards.ca 
as I think it's dirty-pool.  Looking for other's opinions.

I think it was just a demo. I don't know where a public link is, 
unless available from Cyphre's Viewtop site.

Yes, it's very lego-ish !!

But it's epic too, have a look here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaMTedT6P0I

Minecraft web site is currently down, so everyone can try it for 
free: http://www.minecraft.net/

http://achrongame.com/site/looks cool, i don't have the pc power 
for it right now

If you want to play online ... then http://www.playok.com/is an 
interesting site.  I think it's mainly populated by eastern europeans 
though as they chat in russian and other languages from that region