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Good site with alot of good info - >  http://www.doctorfungus.org/index.htm

Read that guys site on the left under his symtoms

Well, if folks are going to be paying attention to that, then I might 
as well seed my site. "Lies, damn lies, and statistics" I'm telling 
ya.

The only statistic I have to gauge things by is hits on my Web site. 
The Rebol pages are getting more unique visitors than my Ruby pages 
right now.

Wow, I've just been blown away by the amount of flak I've gotten 
from some folks about my attempt at a simplistic Perl tutorial. Same 
steps and concepts as the others I've written (kind of a theme on 
my site), but apparently some folks feel that Perl is not appropriate 
for children.  Hm ... maybe they have a point :-)

As far as I see on the site RASTA is dedicated to outdoor application 
like neighbour of houses

on the web site I mean

He doesn't need to specify it there, but we can point it out on another 
site. assuming you're okay with that jaime

As a new REBOLer, I want to "gather" every bit of information I can 
get, especially from the posts, but the groups which I believe would 
be very helpful to me have more than 1000 posts. Through the web 
site, I can't read the earlier posts, and I get disconnected from 
the world everytime AltME resyncs these groups. I have noticed that 
groups with less than 500 posts do get resynced w/o being disconnected; 
although I had to "force" the resync (that's why I had to post the 
dot in several groups, as posting in the dot group doesn't sync me 
to all of the groups).

Wow.........it crashes!?!  


OK guys, you need to shove all this into the Feedback, becuase all 
I do is copy and paste this stuff over to the site myself, since 
it is built to track all of this.

Please send that to AlteME feedback.  In fact since our system for 
tracking bugs is really good from the site, that is the best place 
to post bugs.  If you have a question though, you are always welcome 
to ask me directly, I will try to answer what can be answered.

My World quit working this last week or two.  Has anything changed 
at the site that does world validation?

such face-lift would not hurt for RT's site :-)

there is a little release-blog on altmes site.

Yes, Hooray for Romano's FTP!  Just remember to disable your previous 
Romano FTP patch (if you have one) from your user.r.  I added a version 
check around mine:

 if (system/version * 1.1.1.0.0) < 1.2.110.0.0 [ ; View1.2.110 has 
 Romano's FTP handler built in.

  do load-thru site/patch/ftp-romano-patch/ftp-patch53.r  ; the old 
  patch
	]

To whom it may concern, on ticket -304 (currently) I misunderstood 
the purpose of the Fix field and filled it with prose with no line 
breaks. Could somebody fix this, perhaps by moving the prose to the 
Description section? The Fix section doesn't wordwrap, my entry messes 
up the layout of the Rambo web site.

Then my user.r contains this:

        use [args] [if args: system/options/args [do first args]] 
        if value? 'do-anton-user? [
            use [site contents url] [
                site: http://www.lexicon.net/antonr/rebol/

                if contents: load-thru http://www.reboltech.com/index.r[
                    site: select contents [folder "Anton"]
                ] 
                clear find site %index.r 
                if none? do load-thru url: site/anton-user.r [
                    print ["Couldn't load-thru" url]
                ]
            ] 
            unset 'do-anton-user?
        ]

(The SITE stuff I have there is so I can keep anton-user.r part of 
my public distribution. You may not need all that though.)

Let's see, anton-user.r...
if find form system/product "view" [


 if (system/version * 1.1.1.0.0) < 1.2.110.0.0 [ ; View1.2.110 has 
 Romano's FTP handler built in.
		do load-thru site/patch/ftp-romano-patch/ftp-patch53.r
	]

not anymore... I'm not setup for this anymore... unfortunately, I 
don't have a lot of time tonight... I have to test cheyenne and start 
putting my web site back online in order to get slim, glayout and 
liquid  "out in the open".

Joe, not that I know of.   Try to learn the 'Parse word.  There are 
a lot of parse experts hanging on this site... (not that I am one 
of them..)

how can i know how many data is beeing uploaded to a site when using 
write ftp://........we have the read-net or read-thru to know how 
many data is beeing downloaded but what about writing ???

Is there anybody here who manages Rebolforces web site ?

This page look very interesting for Newbies, but images are not there 
:
http://www.rebolforces.com/archive/view099users.html

I suppose the %image/ folder was not moved with the page. May be 
they are still on the site, somewhere.

do load-thru site/gui/demo-scroll-table.r

site: http://www.lexicon.net/antonr/rebol/

Funny: 
downloaded an old /View beta (0.9.9) from web.archive.org

http://web.archive.org/web/20000830122735/www.rebol.com/downloads/view/rebol909031.exe

and started it. Pushed "Check REB Site": Before /View desktop, "REB 
Services"!

(sorry, message cut by altme?) ... lanched /View 0.9.9, clicked on 
"Check REB Site": Before /View desktop, "REB Services"!

You want to use =image with an URL? That's possible.

For example:

	=image %myimage.png http://mysite.com


click on the image to go to the site. I don't think the MD2 standard 
currently supports this.

MDP-GUI 1.3 can be found here:  http://www.agora-dev.org/forums/view.php?site=rebol&bn=rebol_prjnvxprod&key=1106873711

So, I have made some enhancements to MDP and put a beta online. You 
can find it at: http://www.robertmuench.de/download/make-doc-pro.r

The following changes have been made:
*Bugs fixed:*

#State tracking flags weren't correct, could lead to strange results 
when using tables where cell text used inline markup. Especially 
in site-mode.

*New Features:*

#Code can now be included via ~=include code <filename>~ where the 
included code will be automatically indented and hence handled like 
an example by the output format emitter.

*Programmatic changes:*
#Celeaned up the global word pollution (Thanks to Ahsley Truter)

#Renamed ~generate-files~ function to ~scan-doc~ to meet MD2 wording

Kernel rebuilds are great...you'll be able to puff out your chest 
when you are done.   But.  have you scoured google and the vmware 
site for patches?  My first kernel rebuild was an all nighter.

Heehee.  I caved, installed Wine to test the site with IE last Thursday. 
 I was moving

some windows around and just noticed the Icon that got installed 
on the KDE desktop.

Heeheehee. The big blue E upside down, spinning down the drain...had 
to chuckle.

Or try a 2.4-kernel. someone said they have drivers on their site

@Chris, I made a HTML3.2 dialect in REBOL at one point. It uses keywords 
for the optional parameters, and the order or parameters is irrelevant. 
You can find it, if you start REBOL/View desktop and goto http://home9.inet.tele.dk/johnn/index.r


Not much documentation there, I'm afraid, but you can see a small 
example in the text file at the site. The good thing with the html32 
dialect is, that it'll always produce 100% correct html code. If 
the input has error, you'll see a message.

I use this guide as a base for the BASIC interpreter: http://www.nvg.ntnu.no/bbc/doc/BBCUserGuide-1.00.pdf
I found it on this site: http://www.nvg.ntnu.no/bbc/docs.php3

Fork, you should make a sort of white paper on the power of Dialecting 
in REBOL using Rebmu as a reference.  Your language shows just how 
powerfull REBOL's Domain Specific Language capabilities are. Its 
a result of applying dialecting to a very specific Domain, but its 
still pretty much General Purpose .


I think that If its well written, without bias and personal opinion 
on REBOL itself,  it would make the cut for a nice article on REBOL.com's 
web site as an article on the subject.


its just my POV, but marketing information on this, with factual, 
non-trivial, examples is very scarce on the REBOL web site.  I think 
Carl would welcome such a complete example.  you've litterally transformed 
the semantics of the language, yet can still interpret it within 
REBOL.

Will, if you have contact to conference organisers, please urge them 
to do something with DevCon preparation. Som of us have to plan our 
plane or bus few months ahead. I would like to see site updated ...

very interesting tool ... i go to do a site on it

One option is to provide commentary text, images and links a few 
seconds after they are shown.

For synchro skating competitions that we can't attend, we follow 
them using Team Germany's Live Ticker.
http://www.teamberlin-1.de/live_frame.php?ev=2&lang=en

This is a very slick PHP application that has photos taken at the 
arena and broadcasts them  a few seconds later.

Some dedicated fans from Germany were providing the photos (JPEGs), 
scores and bilingual (at least English and German) commentaries.

When new content is published, a message appears at the top to inform 
the viewer that it is available.

They hit the refresh hyperlink and they are up-to-date.   From the 
timestamps, our lag time to Canada was sometimes as low as 45 seconds 
after the event occurred i.e. we are getting commentary results about 
a given team's skating while they are still on the ice.

This site reports http://www.teamberlin-1.de/en/cup-of-berlin/that 
4,000 viewers followed the Berlin Cup in Jan-2005 using Live Ticker.

Maybe something like that would work for DevCon2005.

web site updated! http://www.colellachiara.com/devcon05/index.html

Pekr, that is not true ($1000 diff).  You must be comparing Toshiba's 
list price from the site to HP's street price.  It more like a hundred 
bucks.


But...I agree the HP specs are much better.    Finding the right 
laptop is a lot of work.

Just a shameless plug from my site.

Follow the links off rebol.org Articles page
to Brett Handley's site...
http://www.codeconscious.com/rebol/

i just found the site of anton i go to read all that, it looks like 
what i wanted :)

http://www.computer.org/portal/site/computer/menuitem.5d61c1d591162e4b0ef1bd108bcd45f3/index.jsp?&pName=computer_level1_article&TheCat=1005&path=computer/homepage/0506&file=cover1.xml&xsl=article.xsl&
<--- interesting link from that site.

the flash version of lzpix definitely works.. follow the link from 
the home site...  :-)  its very fluid.

I think that Viewtop was not bad idea - but when you look at public 
section, you see rather static/dead/non-live section .... it is like 
with rebol site Reichart was working on .... it needs to show evidence 
of life ...

Opera plans to put their widgets on mobile devices, TVs, game consoles 
.... http://www.apcstart.com/site/dwarne/2006/07/799/opera-to-put-widgets-on-mobile-phones

I don't want to register at yet another site to post comments there 
thought. :-\

they don't. That is the old site, where some ppl felt that Genesi 
owes them something, so they put up the site IIRC. But then some 
ppl decided to develop it further. 1.5 version is near, and it should 
be pretty much legal ....

http://www.oreillynet.com/onlamp/blog/2007/01/adobe_acrobat_javascript_execu.html
huge security risk if you site hosts pdf files

huge security risk if your site hosts pdf files apparently.

Actually that does not work, for a lot (insert misc. dead humans 
and animals in line of site here) reasons.

By the way Ashley, your site redesign is very nice.  Good work.

Louis: if you are on os x, this one work pretty neat http://www.hexcat.com/deepvacuum/index.html
, it will dl the whole site and rewrite urls to make them relative, 
or you coud try with acrobat pro if you want a pdf version of the 
site

as long as you use wget in the same location as where you put your 
downloaded files temporarily, you don't need to set the environment 
variables.

Then it's just in a DOS prompt:

wget -r -l <depth> <some site>

And it will download the site to <some site>/ directory

sqlite.com contains a general domain site.

but now I have another question to brainstorm - I wanted to popularise 
rebol a bit on OSNews.com - they are very open and their site is 
being visited some 100K hits a month. I wanted to post View 1.3.2. 
news, but asked for advice here on AltME, as OS-X port may not be 
ready for public adoption. On the other hand, other products get 
posted even with much smaller updates. So the question is - should 
we post REBOL 3.0 news? Some may say - pots, once there is some product 
to download. But - REBOL 3.0 is also about documentation, and the 
announcement Carl posted asks also for C coders and other kind of 
help. As a side note, we could point ppl to try View 1.3.2 - at least 
Windows and Linux users could be attracted. What do others think? 
Should we wait further? But that way we will not get any publicity 
ever ....

which orca-site? trac (but timeline says nothing), campfire or altme?

sqlab: maybe not what you mean, but there is a project to handle 
Rebol syntax in DotNet (first named as Spirit, but now known as RLike)

Sorry for you, but it's done by a Belgium guy, sot the site is in 
French.

PostScript normally uses units of "points" for placing graphics on 
the page. I find it more convenient to work with centimeters. I got 
the following snippet of PostScript code from a public domain program 
called "GLE" which I believe is available at any large ftp site; 
I recommend this graphics program. By examining the PostScript output 
of that program I collected the following piece of PostScript code:


matrix currentmatrix /originmat exch def /umatrix {originmat matrix 
concatmatrix setmatrix} def [28.3465 0 0 28.3465 10.5 100.0] umatrix


What this basically does is rescale the page so that now all following 
commands will work as if the centimeter is the basic unit of length. 
This places (0,0) near the bottom left of the page and (21,24) near 
the top right of the page.


If you don't do this, then (0,0) is the bottom left corner of the 
page and (612,792) is the top right corner of the page (if you are 
using an 8 1/2 inch by 11 inch sheet of paper). These are the default 
PostScript units; 72 of these to an inch. 28.3465 to a centimeter, 
thus the numbers above in the last line of PostScript code.

Opening a tv-program site from a danish tv-station made NeoOffice 
(a Mac version of OO) loop. I'll try with www.rebol.com

Using Internet Explorer 

Init with:

var rebPlug = new ActiveXObject("Rebol.Application");
rebPlug.LaunchURL="http://site/script.r";

After use it in html something like:


<input type="button" value ="Execute" onliclick="rebPlug.eval('myrebcode 
[a b c]') />

Is the plugin served from an HTTPS site? It would be nice to avoid 
man-in-the-middle attacks. I'm always a little wary of putting non-SSL 
sites on the trusted sites list.


For that matter, when you have one site serving the html and script, 
and another serving the plugin, which site needs to be trusted, as 
far as the major browsers are concerned? I would think just the plugin 
serving site, but I don't quite remember right now...

Here's a few general notes:

 * You absolutely MUST uninstall the previous release completely (by 
 closing down your browser, maybe restarting, etc.) before attempting 
 to install the new release. Otherwise, you're asking for major trouble.
	* You must change LaunchURL in *both* the EMBED and OBJECT tags.

 * Old demos don't work with the new plugin, and practically no existing 
 site will work with FF. This is because FF requires the EMBED tag.

Josh - could rebol plug-in release be coordinated with us here? Sometimes 
RT simply released stuff suddenly, so we could not comment further. 
Mine idea is to get some kind of coordination for plug-in script 
submission page.  It is in unpleasant state. I vote for carefully 
choosing WHAT script will be presented on main site. We have now 
chance for kind of wow effect, which will not be created, if we don't 
choose coolest scripts imo. We should look in various demo sections 
of Desktop, as well as contest and simply be sure, that posted stuff 
works out of the box ....

It will be public when I put it on my web site.  Once I am sure it 
will work with the plugin I will release the source here.

or post it on a reb site ?

but you are right the other demos on the rebol site don't work

but if the plugin had a properties page, we could allow some scripts 
domains or ip addresses specific rights.  all set to off by default. 
 and all prefs values encrypted when saved of sent to registry, so 
that no virii or other nasty can allow its site to run unhindered.

I want to use it to show a narrated slide presentation on my web 
site. Can it safely be used for that?

the plugin version i used wasnt the good one for the demo on the 
site, but i could use the chat on compkarori.  Can someone tell me 
how much version of the plugin exists and wich is the last stable 
one ?

hi guys, I can't find ANY example of calling javascript within the 
plugin !    can any one just give an example where I get some values 
from the DOM (I'd like to retrive the current URL from which the 
plugin was called, so I can talk to the server... a tool I built 
needs to be setup for each site... (without changing the code... 
its compressed.)

the fax is on a remote site and will be converted to png by imagemagick

I looks like events are flowing too much. I guess events have to 
"traverse" the browser and then go to view.dll.

Maybe you should try an event filtering like romano/gabriele's one. 
eat.r is in rebol.org, but is old. I think there was an earlier version 
somewhere (Romano's web site : url ?)

Yikes.  Don't like hearing this.  My site is live.  Only four days 
old now.  Haven't
experienced it - yet.  Don't want to.


Are you running Linux or Windows?  If Linux check out the init.d 
scripts or

http://cr.yp.to/daemontools.htmlfor hints on getting automatic failover.

In the daemontools, check supervise.  If Windows, I'm not up on the 
how-to

anymore, but I think it can be done with services...or some other 
web freebie.

I hope I can do a good enough job on the actual site to keep REBOL 
is a nice light :)

Should I post mine photo too? Well, I could, I just realised this 
channel is web-public and oficially linked to DevCon site ;-)

sunanda,  specifically, that site is not the relavance site.  maybe, 
its a local reseller of the technology.

it sounds mighty interesting, but given the depth of information 
(or lack thereof) on their web site it doesn't surprise me that the 
hordes aren't storming in ...

This site is good for color picks http://www.colourlovers.com/

I have downloaded Curecode source.

The func is defined in "db-abstract.r" and has the missing refinment 
!
So what ? Is just the installed file on the site not up to date ?

I tried to register again and get this "Sorry, this page cannot be 
displayed. Try again or contact the web site administrator."

Doc, curecode site is nice and fast - good work!

After adding a ticket to CureCode I can no longer  get the ViewTickets 
page.
I just get  


Sorry, this page cannot be displayed. Try again or contact the web 
site administrator.

Go back to home page

Sorry, this page cannot be displayed. Try again or contact the web 
site administrator.

I don't like to clear the cookies an my primary browser - I end up 
having to log into a ton of sites. I can't clear just one site's 
cookies.

Nick, you might want to change the password for your site though.

Reichart, I would be happy if the regular Qtask worked better with 
Chrome - it's the only site I frequent that needs another browser.

I will soon have 30Mbit of spare throughput on our site. However, 
I am not ready with my new server yet. Need to buy machine, install 
vmware esxi, install linux. So, in future, yes, not now ...

Pekr,  I did post here and the mailing list.  The whole idea of the 
virtual DevCon evolved quickly and informally, so I apologise if 
it's been confusing.   Since the idea was suggested very near the 
proposed DevCon date, I tried to help organize things a bit at http://rockfactory.us/events/devcon.html
, but my efforts have been personal and not necessarily agreed upon 
by any of the community.   We probably should have appointed an official 
group of organizers and created a web site first, but in the interest 
of trying to things done, I just moved ahead and posted my suggestions 
here and on the mailing list - I hope there've been no disagreements 
or concerns about any of that.   DideC,  as it  stands, my intention 
is to make 100-150 connections available to http://rockfactory.us/rooms/room22
.  At this point, it seams reasonable to leave it open - if anyone 
thinks we should expect more than 100 people, then I'll need to know 
soon.   I'd appreciate a head count of people in the French community 
who plan to attend.  Amacleod, the broadcast system at http://rockfactory.us/rooms/room22
seems to be the best available solution.  I'm leaving that room available 
until the event, so that presenters can become familiar with it. 
 To make it easier for others to use the system, please remember 
to close the broadcast page when you're done using it, and please 
try to conserve bandwidth to only what's necessary to become familiar 
and comfortable with the system.  Please let me know if you have 
any questions!

Thanks, Chris is more talented than me, he ight take a swipe at it. 
 I think this one is a little too "blocky" and a bit childlike. But 
it might be a good start, and it is designed to be SUPER simple to 
build as a site, with nothing but flat HTML files.  In fact, I could 
build this out of just several Wikis.

I really like the idea of the virtual DevCon.  It would be neat if 
we could then build ourselves a site similar to this Microsoft's 
LEARN site.    http://www.asp.net/learn/default.aspx?wwwaspnetrdirset=1

I'm completely open to whatever the community decides to do :)   
It's probably not such a bad thing to keep this first presentation 
smallish, and to consider it a learning experience.   One thing that's 
clear so far is that it'd be good to decide on one or several people 
to manage operations officially, and to create a web site to organize 
future events.  For the time being, this event does appear to be 
shaping up well, for the short matter of days we've spent contemplating 
it :)  There are 19 live attendees signed up at http://rockfactory.us/events/devcon.html
.  We appear to have a viable way to make the presentation, and I'm 
looking forward to seeing anyone who has the time and motivation 
to speak about REBOL related topics :)

late to the party.


so, where to I go to sign up to join the DevCon? Or do I just pop 
into some web site and view the presentation?

Chris, your site also needs a link to the conference location, perhaps 
in the Where section.

I don't know the url of the video conference. That is why I was looking 
at your site in the first place (though it's nice).

Btw: it seems that the url for the 2007 DevCon has changed.  I'll 
try and keep http://2007.rebolconf.infopointed to the correct site...


Alternately, if whoever maintains the 2007 DevCon pages wishes me 
to host them under the above address, I'll be happy to...

I suggest another addon to the Devcon site called MyDevCon where 
people can post their own videos of demostrations of their products. 
 I know Graham has done video presentations of his efforts before. 
 Would be nice to see how some of these projects work in the interim.