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Regarding the "portal", I fear I have to agree with sqlab so far. 
The approach of just wholesale copying in or duplicating information 
from other primary sources strikes me as particularly bad. 

For example:
http://rebol.informe.com/wiki/view/REBOL_2_Guide

This just copies over the "REBOL Programming" wikibook:
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/REBOL_Programming


However, it does so, without _any_ attribution at all, giving people 
no hint where as to the primary source for that information. Second, 
it is a one-off import which is not being kept up to date, so really 
just muddies the information out there. For example, Ladislav recently 
updated the "mold" article [1], but where is that reflected in the 
rip-off?

[1] http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/REBOL_Programming/mold


I strongly suggest that this wholesale importing of other information 
is stopped or maybe even undone. Otherwise you'll just create more 
stale information. Just a link to to the primary sources really is 
the better approach.


If you want this site to take off, create _new_ information; this 
way, you'll actually _add_ value.

Nick: in your business_programming.html page, I think your missing 
a % character in following code line:

    do mysql-107.rip

Well, thank Graham - he did all the work. All I did was rip it apart! 
:-)

like I said , right now I can't rip it out easily because a lot of 
the code is shared with the code it serves (which is not part of 
the open source package).   It wasn't built with the task of making 
it independent... but it can be done.  It just takes time, which 
I currently don't have.

Henrik, I was more thinking to rip the old zlib code out of Rebol 
and put there some more actual(or even smaller) implementation (latest 
zlib or miniz etc.)

I am fully for new, more standard way. I e.g. did not like .RIP format. 
E.g. Winamp uses normal zip format for their skin modules, etc. I 
would like to just hit enter or double click, getting into the archive/package.

Pekr, I don't think .RIP was meant for basic temporary compression, 
but a more fully fledged file format to store serialized REBOL data 
efficiently?

Henrik - RIP was crap :-)

Well, then I am wrong, ok. Not sure .rip format was anything in common 
with app state serialisation. I thought it was just plain and simple 
packaging mechanism - having a header, and binary container for compressed 
app modules/scripts ...

(and if it turns out, that it was not the goal with .rip, then the 
goal should be changed to do this)

Then we talk two different things though. But - don't push anything 
like .rip on me, just to package my app. I want more transparent 
way, a zip archive I can inspect in Total Commander, Windows Explorer, 
etc.

I would not want that a requirement for .rip anyway.

Oldes - we don't mix anything. It was zip vs rip discussion. I say 
- let's .rip RIP :-)

regarding zip versus rip - I can imagine runable zip - just add special 
file in it which would be used as a starter - actually that's how 
works for example APK, which is zip with different extension.

I say - let's .rip RIP :-)

 - how can you say this, when we want a way to store application states?

store them in zip, simply some storage format inspectable from other 
tools. I still don't understand, what is so special on rip, it is 
imo just a storage format, nothing special.

It's quite a long time I used rip last time so my memory may be faded 
out, what do you mean with the application states?

Henrik - maybe you meant a Rebin format? I really thoght, that .rip 
is just packaged scripts with header in order to being runnable? 
So I would like to ask about the app states too?

Well, rebin was not imo finished, even for R3, although maybe R3 
was closer to get to that idea. IIRC .rip appeared somewhere around 
IOS times, as a means of package scripts. It was imo a typical way 
of Carl, introduce his own way, instead of going with some "standard", 
e.g. zip.

OK, then sorry, I was wrong. As far as .rip is concerned, then it 
should be some kind of installer, for it to be justified.

I'm ALL for using a standard compression format.  Then with a little 
work, .rip files could basically be SFX files. That would enable 
a super simple packaging method for delivery of executable REBOL 
applications.

R3's existing compressed scripts feature is better than RIP already, 
so we can safely let that fall into history.

If this was a language designed to promote "proper" programming, 
I could see having constraints on every function to keep them from 
being used in new ways, and to promote the proper usage of the function. 
 However, in real life, flexibility is key.


Let me know if this makes any sense:  If I want to rip the fender 
off my car and fashion it into a medieval helmet, physics allows 
me to do so (if I had the requisite skill).  However, in programming 
languages, this type of thing would rarely be possible.


So what I'm saying is this: Try as much as possible to refrain from 
placing software developers in a box when it comes to how they might 
choose to use a function or a feature.

Also, what are the best tools to rip a DVD to an AVI file on Windows. 

The trick here is (well, a) Windows), but more importantly, that 
the AVI will have proper keyframes, which seems to be the problem. 
 All the systems we have played with produce AVIs you CAN'T skip 
through.

Two things:

= The subtle question = 


We have played with a lot of software, and ALL of them (that we have 
tried) have failed to produce a final product that works.  Meaning, 
all players (WMplayer, WinAmp, VLC, etc.) do not allow skipping, 
and, again, keep in mind, this is using Windows tools to Rip, and 
then encode (usually two products have to be used ).


I make this clear because I'm not questioning that this can be done 
correctly from Linux (or perhaps Mac even).


So my question is really "[are you sure] from windows you can produce 
a 700m avi from a DVD that allows skipping [keyframes] on Windows?"


Our search of forums tells us others have the same problem, and people 
eventually give up and go to linux.

(Warning, rant ahead) :)

= The law = 


First, we all have to recognize the laws are slightly different in 
each country.  Part of what makes this confusing is that America 
tends to set the "tone" for the rest of the world (since it makes 
the most profitable media in the first place.  Not the most media 
keep in mind, for example Iceland makes more books per person for 
example).  And what makes this really confusing is that America has 
state and local laws, which can conflict but will still be overruled 
by federal law.  Marijuana is a good example.  Some states say YES, 
and the Feds say NO.  So you are still committing a Fed crime if 
you use this stuff.


However in the case of copyright, it is the other way around.  Organizations 
say NO, and the Feds say YES!


But the REAL trick here is that software that cracks DVDs is illegal, 
but having the resultant backup is not.  How is that for confusing?


Bottom line, there is a fair use act, which stands, but another law 
that makes getting that fair use to work for you that is illegal. 
 I should probably blog this since I could not find a good example 
of this clear statement on the web. 


However, the best thing I could find was just the simple Wikipedia 
entry for the judge herself that both made the heavy blow, but also 
defended the other individual rights.  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Illston


Personally, she symbolizes to me the scariest type of person in power. 
 Which is, she became myopic and decided to just solve the one problem 
in front of her, as opposed to requiring that the issues be solved 
correctly higher up so that this small problem could be handled.


In other words, she saw a leaking toilet, and ruled that the water 
should be cut off to the bathroom.  Then turned around and said, 
but everyone has a "right" to use the bathroom.

It is people like this that allow tyrants to gain power.

(end of rant)

Reichart - if you want to have precise skipping etc. possibility, 
IIRC tools like Nandub, Virtual dub allowed something like that. 
Those are scriptable tools. But they work with AVI, they don't allow 
you to RIP DVD, so you would have to use two tools.

http://elliottback.com/wp/how-to-rip-a-dvd-a-tutorial/

'Load can rip you off when it comes to parse:

>> a: load [$10,000]
== [$10.00]

or use RIP :)

rip seems to work quite well  :-)

its actually making smaller archives than zip in my initial tests!

*.rip
requiescat in pace ?

I really hope we go through the CureCode tickets soon and collect 
all of the ones that make minor changes to core semantics, so we 
can do a rip-the-bandaid-off fix-them-all release soon. Before too 
much code is written that might depend on the unfixed behavior.

not influence, blatant rip-off (cough!) :-)

I see now what the problem is. Those REBOL types are hardcoded into 
view-request sources. 
But you can patch them away with

	remove find/only req-file/filter-list ["*.r" "*.reb" "*.rip"]

 remove skip find req-file/start-out/3 [fp: rty "Normal" "REBOL" "Text" 
 "Images"] 3

After that, request-file should come up without the REBOL types.

managed to find the .rip files... all is good.

I added an extra string for the title and now get this similar failure

>> filenames: request-file/title/filter/path {Select all files to 
read} {x} [*.txt] %/D/Rebol/X/!conf/

** Script Error: Invalid argument: *.txt * *.r *.reb *.rip *.txt 
*.jpg *.gif *.bmp *.png
** Where: request-file
** Near: done: local-request-file data: reduce

[tt/text ob/text clean-path where picked filt-names filt-values found? 
any [only]...

this is a serious flaw in R2... if you want to store encryption keys 
within an application and want to provide some sort of plugin interface, 
you are pretty much fucked... people can rip your application appart, 
and there is nothing you can do about it...


a part creating a dialect, which is complicated as hell if you want 
to provide do-like syntax.

But it's Rebol?pro version (using a dll) http://oldes.multimedia.cz/rebol/zlib_latest.rip

And if you are converting html-entities, you can find useful this 
http://oldes.multimedia.cz/rebol/html-entities_latest.rip

that goes the same for .rip - fine format - bug ugly .... I want 
to enter all common archives as a directory of some kind ... so I 
want rebol to handle .zip and get rid of .rip

Rip .. crazy.

RIP

rebmail 4.7.11 & associated helptext has been released (31/12/2004) 
...

Changes Since 4.7.8
4.7.9   - Bug Fix - emails without any @ symbols are invalid

4.7.10  - Enhancement - Seperate list of downloaded emails for each 
account
4.7.11  - Bug Fix - Deal with duplicate attachment names


rebmail.r can be found at .... http://www.upnaway.com/~philb/philip/pbmail/readmail.r

reabmail is also the following formats 

rip format at  .... http://www.upnaway.com/~philb/philip/pbmail/readmail.rip

zip format at  .... http://www.upnaway.com/~philb/philip/pbmail/readmail.zip


the archive containing rebmail.r & rebamail.html (rip = compressed 
self extracting rebol archive)
 
Any problems let me know.

rebmail 4.7.14 & associated helptext has been released (31/12/2004) 
...

Changes Since 4.7.11
Enhancement - re-work locale format (for security purposes)
Bug Fix - Correct Fetch All Error
Enhancement - Use load/all & Construct to load locale from file


rebmail.r can be found at .... http://www.upnaway.com/~philb/philip/pbmail/readmail.r

reabmail is also the following formats 

rip format at  .... http://www.upnaway.com/~philb/philip/pbmail/readmail.rip

zip format at  .... http://www.upnaway.com/~philb/philip/pbmail/readmail.zip


the archive containing rebmail.r & rebamail.html (rip = compressed 
self extracting rebol archive)
 
Any problems let me know.

rebmail 4.7.14 & associated helptext has been released (10/01/2004) 
...

Changes Since 4.7.11

4.7.12 - Enhancement - re-work locale format (for security purposes)
4.7.13 - Bug Fix - Correct Fetch All Error

4.7.14 - Enhancement - Use load/all & Construct to load locale from 
file


rebmail.r can be found at .... http://www.upnaway.com/~philb/philip/pbmail/readmail.r

reabmail is also the following formats 

rip format at  .... http://www.upnaway.com/~philb/philip/pbmail/readmail.rip

zip format at  .... http://www.upnaway.com/~philb/philip/pbmail/readmail.zip


the archive containing rebmail.r & rebamail.html (rip = compressed 
self extracting rebol archive)
 
Any problems let me know.

rebmail 4.8.0 & associated helptext has been released (07/02/2005) 
...

Changes Since 4.7.14

4.7.15  - Enhancement - Add name & email to substituion in reply 
text
4.7.16  - Bug Fix - Dont include name from Contacts list
4.7.17  - Bug Fix - Use From email address in Reply substitution

4.7.18  - Bug Fix - If no account is selected then display Alert 
when getting mail

4.7.19  - Enhancement - Process all picked acounts in Account Maintenance

4.7.20  - Enhancement - Request confirmation before deleting an account

4.7.21  - Bug Fix - If no Contacts exists program as failing on taking 
Contact menu item

4.7.22  - Enhancement - Process all picked acounts in Account Maintenance
4.7.23  - Enhancement - Make Contact Details a Dialog Box
4.7.24  - Enhancement - make new mail window title 'New Mail'
4.7.25  - Enhancement - Add no of days in search window
4.7.26  - Bug Fix - If password is blank then do not decrypt
4.8.0   - Enhancement - Update Version Number

rebmail.r can be found at .... http://www.upnaway.com/~philb/philip/pbmail/readmail.r

reabmail is also the following formats 

rip format at  .... http://www.upnaway.com/~philb/philip/pbmail/readmail.rip

zip format at  .... http://www.upnaway.com/~philb/philip/pbmail/readmail.zip


the archive containing rebmail.r & rebamail.html (rip = compressed 
self extracting rebol archive)
 
Any problems let me know.

rebmail 4.9.0 & associated helptext has been released (20/02/2005) 
...

Changes Since 4.8.0
4.8.1   - Bug Fix - Spelling mistakes in locale.r

4.8.2   - Bug Fix - Update location not found should not stop preferences 
being saved
4.8.3   - Enhancement - Add Resizing to main Contact Window
4.8.4   - Enhancement - Add Resizing of Delete Mail Window


rebmail.r can be found at .... http://www.upnaway.com/~philb/philip/pbmail/readmail.r

reabmail is also the following formats 

rip format at  .... http://www.upnaway.com/~philb/philip/pbmail/readmail.rip

zip format at  .... http://www.upnaway.com/~philb/philip/pbmail/readmail.zip


the archive containing rebmail.r & rebamail.html (rip = compressed 
self extracting rebol archive)
 
Any problems let me know.

rebmail 4.9.6 & associated helptext has been released (25/02/2005) 
...

Changes Since 4.9.0
4.9.1   - In Prefs - make use of on/offline flag

4.9.2   - Bug Fix - locale - gi_101: 'Update location not found. 
Continue?'
4.9.3   - Bug Fix - Correctly indicate if email has an attachment
4.9.4   - Enhancement - Add Readmail.jpg to about Window
4.9.5   - Enhancement - Add positioner to Mail maintennce
4.9.6   - Bug Fix - fix error if position.prf didnt exist


rebmail.r can be found at .... http://www.upnaway.com/~philb/philip/pbmail/readmail.r

reabmail is also the following formats 

rip format at  .... http://www.upnaway.com/~philb/philip/pbmail/readmail.rip

zip format at  .... http://www.upnaway.com/~philb/philip/pbmail/readmail.zip


the archive containing rebmail.r & rebamail.html (rip = compressed 
self extracting rebol archive)
 
Any problems let me know.

rebmail 4.10.11 & associated helptext has been released (18/06/2005) 
...

Changes Since 4.9.6
4.9.7   - Enhancement - Import emails" "Phil Bevan" 21/02/2005]

4.9.8   - Enhancement - Apply rules to a folder" "Phil Bevan" 30/05/2005]

4.9.9   - Bug Fix - Correct backdrop on getmail progress window" 
"Phil Bevan" 31/05/2005]

4.9.10  - Enhancement - decode ISO-8859-1 / ASCII-US encoded text" 
"Phil Bevan" 31/05/2005]

4.9.11  - Enhancement - allow Shift select to select multiple emails" 
"Phil Bevan" 01/06/2005]

4.9.12  - Bug Fix - Ensure download time is updated correcly" "Phil 
Bevan" 01/06/2005]
4.10.1  - Enhancement - Add options window
4.10.2  - Enhancement - Add rules maintenance
4.10.3  - Bug Fix - Remove Debugging info
4.10.4  - Bug Fix - Make Select Folder in Rules work
4.10.5  - Bug Fix - Apply send patch under View 1.3
4.10.6  - Bug Fix - Better Error trapping when applying fixes
4.10.7  - Bug Fix - Fix folder returned from unknown folder name

4.10.8  - Bug Fix - Do not try to copy email to itself when applying 
rules
4.10.9  - Enhancement - Add default inbox for incoming mail

4.10.10 - Bug Fix - Make Select Folder in Rules datila work for View 
1.2
4.10.11 - Bug Fix - Ensure preferences work on new install


rebmail.r can be found at .... http://www.upnaway.com/~philb/philip/pbmail/readmail.r

reabmail is also the following formats 

rip format at  .... http://www.upnaway.com/~philb/philip/pbmail/readmail.rip

zip format at  .... http://www.upnaway.com/~philb/philip/pbmail/readmail.zip


the archive containing rebmail.r & rebamail.html (rip = compressed 
self extracting rebol archive)
 
Any problems let me know.

rebmail 4.11.4 & associated helptext has been released (02/07/2005) 
...


For detailed changes http://www.upnaway.com/~philb/philip/pbmail/readmail.ver


rebmail.r can be found at .... http://www.upnaway.com/~philb/philip/pbmail/readmail.r

reabmail is also the following formats 

rip format at  .... http://www.upnaway.com/~philb/philip/pbmail/readmail.rip

zip format at  .... http://www.upnaway.com/~philb/philip/pbmail/readmail.zip


the archive containing rebmail.r & rebamail.html (rip = compressed 
self extracting rebol archive)
 
Any problems let me know.

rebmail 4.12.2 & associated helptext has been released (19/10/2005) 
...


For detailed changes http://www.upnaway.com/~philb/philip/pbmail/readmail.ver


rebmail.r can be found at .... http://www.upnaway.com/~philb/philip/pbmail/readmail.r

reabmail is also the following formats 

rip format at  .... http://www.upnaway.com/~philb/philip/pbmail/readmail.rip

zip format at  .... http://www.upnaway.com/~philb/philip/pbmail/readmail.zip


the archive containing rebmail.r & rebamail.html (rip = compressed 
self extracting rebol archive)
 
Any problems let me know.

rebmail 4.12.6 & associated helptext has been released (18/03/2006) 
...


For detailed changes http://www.upnaway.com/~philb/philip/pbmail/readmail.ver


rebmail.r can be found at .... http://www.upnaway.com/~philb/philip/pbmail/readmail.r

reabmail is also the following formats 

rip format at  .... http://www.upnaway.com/~philb/philip/pbmail/readmail.rip

zip format at  .... http://www.upnaway.com/~philb/philip/pbmail/readmail.zip


the archive containing rebmail.r & rebamail.html (rip = compressed 
self extracting rebol archive)
 
Any problems let me know.

rebmail 4.13.4 & associated helptext has been released (27/03/2006) 
...


For detailed changes http://www.upnaway.com/~philb/philip/pbmail/readmail.ver


rebmail.r can be found at .... http://www.upnaway.com/~philb/philip/pbmail/readmail.r

reabmail is also the following formats 

rip format at  .... http://www.upnaway.com/~philb/philip/pbmail/readmail.rip

zip format at  .... http://www.upnaway.com/~philb/philip/pbmail/readmail.zip


the archive containing rebmail.r & rebamail.html (rip = compressed 
self extracting rebol archive)
 
Any problems let me know.

readmail 4.13.7 & associated helptext has been released (05/05/2006) 
...


For detailed changes http://www.upnaway.com/~philb/philip/pbmail/readmail.ver


readmail.r can be found at .... http://www.upnaway.com/~philb/philip/pbmail/readmail.r

readmail is also the following formats 

rip format at  .... http://www.upnaway.com/~philb/philip/pbmail/readmail.rip

zip format at  .... http://www.upnaway.com/~philb/philip/pbmail/readmail.zip


the archive containing rebmail.r & rebamail.html (rip = compressed 
self extracting rebol archive)
 
Any problems let me know.

readmail 4.13.8 & associated helptext has been released (06/05/2006) 
...


For detailed changes http://www.upnaway.com/~philb/philip/pbmail/readmail.ver


readmail.r can be found at .... http://www.upnaway.com/~philb/philip/pbmail/readmail.r

readmail is also the following formats 

rip format at  .... http://www.upnaway.com/~philb/philip/pbmail/readmail.rip

zip format at  .... http://www.upnaway.com/~philb/philip/pbmail/readmail.zip


the archive containing rebmail.r & rebamail.html (rip = compressed 
self extracting rebol archive)
 
Any problems let me know.

Sorry .. this time without spelling mistakes ....


readmail 4.13.8 & associated helptext has been released (06/05/2006) 
...


For detailed changes http://www.upnaway.com/~philb/philip/pbmail/readmail.ver


readmail.r can be found at .... http://www.upnaway.com/~philb/philip/pbmail/readmail.r

readmail is also the following formats 

rip format at  .... http://www.upnaway.com/~philb/philip/pbmail/readmail.rip

zip format at  .... http://www.upnaway.com/~philb/philip/pbmail/readmail.zip

the archive contains readmail.r & readmail.html 
(rip = compressed self extracting rebol archive)
 
Any problems let me know.

readmail 4.14.3 & associated helptext has been released (23/07/2006) 
...


For detailed changes http://www.upnaway.com/~philb/philip/pbmail/readmail.ver


readmail.r can be found at .... http://www.upnaway.com/~philb/philip/pbmail/readmail.r

readmail is also the following formats 

rip format at  .... http://www.upnaway.com/~philb/philip/pbmail/readmail.rip

zip format at  .... http://www.upnaway.com/~philb/philip/pbmail/readmail.zip

the archive contains readmail.r & readmail.html 
(rip = compressed self extracting rebol archive)
 
Any problems let me know.

readmail 4.14.9 & associated helptext has been released (19/11/2006) 
...


For detailed changes http://www.upnaway.com/~philb/philip/pbmail/readmail.ver


readmail.r can be found at .... http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/view-script.r?script=readmail.r
or at http://www.upnaway.com/~philb/philip/pbmail/readmail.r

readmail is also the following formats 

rip format at  .... http://www.upnaway.com/~philb/philip/pbmail/readmail.rip

zip format at  .... http://www.upnaway.com/~philb/philip/pbmail/readmail.zip

the archive contains readmail.r & readmail.html 
(rip = compressed self extracting rebol archive)
 
Any problems let me know

let her rip or zip then :)

!!! Cookies-daemon script now allows to post data as a multipart 
!!!
do http://box.lebeda.ws/~hmm/rebol/cookies-daemon_latest.r
;sending single file:

read/custom target-url [multipart [myfile %somefile.txt]]   ;== same 
like <INPUT TYPE=FILE NAME=myfile>
;sending normal fields:

read/custom target-url [multipart [field1 "some value" field2 "another 
value]]
;sending multivalue:

read/custom target-url [multipart ["field[]" "some value" "field[]" 
"another value]]
;sending file with field value:

read/custom target-url [multipart [myfile %somefile.txt field1 "some 
value"]]


Source files (with modified %http-patch.r) are in this archive:  
http://box.lebeda.ws/~hmm/rebol/cookies-daemon_latest.rip

As it's part of the cookies-daemon, it should deal with the cookies 
automatically.


The script is trying to detect content-type of the file which you 
want to upload calling get-content-type function, which is not part 
of the cookies-daemon (at this moment)

zlib compressor/decompressor using zlib.dll (version 1.2.3)
  http://box.lebeda.ws/~hmm/rebol/zlib_latest.rip
and you will need this Ladislavs' script as well:
  http://box.lebeda.ws/~hmm/rebol/memory-tools_latest.rip

you can edit these to rip out the stuff you don't need.

a little self-extractor. kind of rip, but smarter (IMHO). could be 
used to zip the initial download. http://polly.rebol.it/test/test/mixlib/builder/selfextractor.r

Hmm.  To unpack Nenad's archive, you have to rename it to pgsql-r090.rip 
from pgsql-r090-1.rip

you mus just de-rip the file with rebol

do client.rip

anyway, you could use this: http://box.lebeda.ws/~hmm/rebol/zlib_latest.rip

there should be archive of mu ucs2 script which I use almost every 
day: http://oldes.multimedia.cz/rss/projects/ucs2_latest.rip

if it would come from any other company, it would get ignored. The 
same goes for Chrome - it is in no way unique, just a rip-off of 
others, plus minus few things done differently (tasks per tab).

http://blogs.everycity.co.uk/alasdair/2010/08/opensolaris-is-now-officially-dead-rip/

I fixed my StRIP packer (based on RIP but the result is enbased instead 
of binary data - I had a reason to do this) for R3. Packs directories 
and I added one refinement - /code - you can add additional code 
that is run after unpacking the archive. So you can use that directory 
just as a temp dir and then move files somewhere else or anything 
you want. It's basically  a package manager, a very spartan one, 
but good enough for me. Get form next line (to prevent that extremly 
old and stupid AltME links bug).

Pekr: from the geomol's link: "A PDF file is actually a PostScript 
file which has already been interpreted by a RIP and made into clearly 
defined objects. These objects are viewable on screen not in code, 
but in visual objects that everyone can see."

I try to keep this as short as possible.

Imagine you have this file, called %test.r:

==file==

REBOL[
    Title: {Simple extension test}
	Name: ext-test
	Type: extension
	Exports: []
]

map-words: command []{
    word_ids = RXI_MAP_WORDS(RXA_SERIES(frm, 1));
    return RXR_TRUE;
}

fibc: command[
    len [integer!]
]{
    RXA_TYPE(frm, 1) = RXT_INTEGER;

    i64 o = 0;
    i64 l = RXA_INT64(frm, 1);
    i64 i;

    for (i = 0; i <= l; i++)
        o = o + i;

    RXA_INT64(frm, 1) = o;

    return RXR_VALUE;
}

add5: command [
    a [integer!]
][
    a: a + 5
    return a
]

==end of file==


And now imagine that in R3 console you are in the directory where 
you have the file %test.r .
Now you type:

>> compile %test.r
>> import %test.dll
>> fibc 10
== 55
>> add5 5
== 10

And that's all.


If you want to try it, you need to have TCC (TinyC Compiler) - get 
it from http://download.savannah.nongnu.org/releases/tinycc/tcc-0.9.25-win32-bin.zip
The script expects it instaled to %/c/tcc/ but it can be changed.
Then go to r3 console and type:

>> do http://box.lebeda.ws/~rebolek/rebol/srec.rip
>> cd %srec/
>> do %srec.r


Then you can try COMPILE etc. (see above). %test.r is included in 
the archive.

SREC is shortcut for Simple REBOL Extension Compiler.
    
Enjoy! (if it works ;)

I've updated http://box.lebeda.ws/~rebolek/rebol/srec.rip.

The fibonacci function can now be written as:

fibr: command [
    len [integer!]
][
    o: 0
    repeat i len [
        o: o + i
    ]
    return o
]


and compiled to DLL. If you prefer c-code, just use string! with 
c-code in command's body, instead of block! with RebC dialect.

re console: i have some patches to the linux hostkit that rip out 
the custom R3 line reader

if the task! datatype is to be part of R3... which it currently is... 
and is laden with bugs, many unknowns and limitations... either we 
rip out the concept of tasking in R3 and limit the language's appeal 
or we fix the datatype and its api.

Dear shadwolf, please, notice that we have a special channel for 
frustration... it's called ~Vent. Use it. By the way, we already 
know that you "hate us soooooooooo much". And if REBOL is dead, let 
it RIP. And find a living toy elsewhere. Or at least ... use the 
~Vent if you are so addicted to be here.

You need to download and rip apart Xcode, amongst other things.

I'm studying the RIP archive format and am wondering:


Why does LOAD allow binary "junk" at the end of a file, if it has 
a REBOL [] header, while it does not, when the header is omitted?

ok, I've read the whole exceptions document and a few (very old!) 
tickets at least 3 times now.


I'll start by being honest and saying that some of this is going 
a bit deep into some details and I'm pretty sure that I'm not graping 
all implications.  The background for all the discussion hasn't "sinked 
in" yet, so its a bit hard to be totally conclusive about my evaluation 
thus far.


this being said... when I arrived at 5, i.e. "Definitional return 
only, with an option to not redefine RETURN and EXIT", it suddently 
starts making sense overall.  6. seems to be redundant and maybe 
even harmfull if we keep THROW dynamic.  This is scaled with CC#1744 
"fixed" and a wider use of THROW, encouraged, since it now allows 
custom escape/exception modeling by non guru-level Rebolers (and 
by guru I mean one of 3-4 rebolers on the earth... maybe not even 
including Carl ;-).


this means, that return does one thing, throw does another.  they 
become two completely different things, clear and conscice in all 
code.


the only real issue I have is that we seem to loose return in parse, 
 but if we keep throw dynamic, then that is moot, and we can just 
use THROW instead.  In fact, woudn't that be preferable, since its 
more accurate?  we are pre-empting the parse return and providing 
our own... which is what throw should be doing ... its more consistent 
overall.


so go ahead rip my arguments appart... it will only help me understand 
this completely.  :-)

there might be some ideas to rip out of that compiler.    my favorite 
low-level feature was that all types where natively the same size 
in ram and where all aligned to that size.     in E all datatypes 
where 32 bits in RAM


so for example, chars actually had 4 bytes which you could dump bytes 
into, making them ideal for many purposes which strings and numbers 
are commonly used instead.  you coud compare chars with LONGS as 
though they where both integers, etc.

Apparently, PuTTY has its own BSD SSL implementation, so that's interesting. 
But it's not structured as a library, but entirely integrated in 
the other protocols, seems somewhat limited and lacking in portability. 
The only way to use it would be to rip out the source code and make 
a portable library out of it, or reimplement it in Red