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Graham, I think I never touched the Rebgui tab panel....

I'm sure you posted some code on how to dynamically remove tabs from 
rebgui panels

Yes, December 8th http://www.lexicon.net/antonr/rebol/rebgui/add-remove-tab-panels.r

Ingo .. check this as in http://polly.rebol.it/test/test/rebgui/../../test/rebgui/edit-area.r

Graham, now that you show me the code, which is now available here
http://anton.wildit.net.au/rebol/rebgui/add-remove-tab-panels.r
I can almost remember writing it !

Ok, the technique used to add/remove tabs from the tab-panel looks 
quite destructive, replacing all the old tab faces with new ones 
whenever a tab is added or removed.

Sorry, I have some connection problems, so here's the second part 
to above message ... again ... ;-)

When I run the above posted snippet, and click on the text-list, 
I get an output of "action", so the action block is run, not the 
changed engage function.

The 'probe shows, that the engage function has been changed in the 
way I have defined it.

So it seems, that RebGUI holds to an old version of engage for text-lists.

hello, where we can find the rebgui.grid done cyphre => http://www.xidys.com/rebgui-grid.jpg

http://trac.geekisp.com/rebgui- view existing tickets and if not 
there, please add it.

http://trac.geekisp.com/rebgui/report

Ashley, I have a bunch of changes to RebGUI. How to proceed? Should 
I mail them all to you? Should I just checkin our version to the 
Subversion repository?

from memory ...  /rebgui

Information on various SVN client software and the URL to use is 
on the main Trac page: http://trac.geekisp.com/rebgui


I've also added a section on "Making Source Code Changes" ... please 
read it before making changes.

Reichart, sort off. As I use for my apps, I have hired Cyphre (until 
you snapped him away) to make a bunch of extensions to RebGUI that 
I need.

Dead link update on this page:  http://www.dobeash.com/rebgui.html

old: 	http://home.wilddsl.net.au/anton/rebol/doc/create-a-rebgui-widget.html

new: 	http://anton.wildit.net.au/rebol/doc/create-a-rebgui-widget.html

I've tried to download RebGUI from REBOL Desktop (as suggested on 
http://www.dobeash.com/rebgui.html) but it crashes with:
** Script Error: Cannot use path on none! value
** Where: context
** Near: header/version

needs a few changes to rebgui as well ...

I expect Robert has RebGui which fits grid too, as it is all done 
by Cyphre, no?

hi,  i would like to include rebgui in a *.exe  with rebol/sdk.

someone have news about http://www.xidys.com/rebgui-grid.jpg?????

#include %ctx-rebgui.r

or run create-distribution.r to produce rebgui.r and then

#include %rebgui.r


Note that %rebgui.r is also available at http://www.dobeash.com/download.html
, but may not be the latest build.

Uploaded build#34 which closes the following tickets: 21,53,3,44,41,4,5

and fixes a few other problems:

1) Table dividers did not resize

2) Drop-list failed to display when items > available space and direction 
was 'downward
3) Replaced REBGUI-BUILD check with ctx-rebgui/build word

4) Added /caret-head and /caret-tail refinements to show-text (makes 
writing certain on-* type triggers easier)

Ok, here it is: 


rebol [
    title: "CRITICAL CHAIN To-Do List Maker"
    owner: "Louis A. Turk"
    rebol: none
]
either exists? %session-time.txt [   ;for digital timer
    session-time: to-time read %session-time.txt
][
    session-time: 0:00:00.000
    write %session-time.txt session-time
]
time-start: now/precise
do %rebgui.r
;WHAT IS rebgui-ctx.r and where do I get it?????????????
unless value? 'ctx-rebgui [
	either exists? %rebgui-ctx.r [do %rebgui-ctx.r] [do %rebgui.r]
]
set-colors
tab-size: 120x55
fonts: reduce [font-sans-serif font-fixed font-serif "verdana"]

if exists? %project-list.txt [project-list: read %project-list.txt][write 
%project-list.txt [] project-list: []]

do show-cc: make function! [] [
display "CRITICAL CHAIN To-Do List Maker Version 1.0.0" [

    ;HOW CAN THE FOLLOWING TWO LINES BE CONVERTED TO WORK WITH RebGUI????????

    ;banner "0:00:00" rate 1 effect [gradient 0x1 0.0.150 0.0.50] 115x24

    ;feel  [engage: func [face act evt] [face/text: copy to-string round 
    (session-time + (difference now/precise time-start)) show face]]
    tab-panel #HW data [
        "Projects" [
            label "Project Name:" project-name: field  144x5

            label "Priority:" priority: drop-list 30 #W "1" data ["1" "2" "3" 
            "4" "5" "6" "7" "8" "9" "10"] 10x5
            return

            label "Objectives:" label "                                      
                                                                             
                                        Exchange Rate" exchange-rate: field 20x5
            return
            area 200x50
            return
            label "Deliverables:" 
            return
            area 200x50
            return
            button "Save" [show-text ex-status "Saved"]
            button "Add" [show-text ex-status "Edit"]
            return
        ]
        "Tasks" [

            ;WHY DOES THE FOLLOWING LINE ALWAYS DISPLAY A BLANK STRING?????????

            label "Project:" t-project-name: text (either <> "" project-name/text 
            [(form project-name/text)]["ERROR: Project NAME field is empty."]) 
            80x5
            label "Task Name:" t-name: field 79x5
            return
            label "Description:" 
            return
            t-description: area 200x50
            return

            label "Vender/Work Place:" t-vw-place: drop-list "Mega Mall" data 
            ["Grand Hardware" "Mega Mall" "Pasar Lima"] 63x5

            label "Resources Needed:" t-resource: drop-list "Louis A. Turk" data 
            ["Bus to Manado" "Louis A. Turk" "Caleb Turk" "Samuel Turk" "Compaq 
            SR1520NX"] 63x5
            return

            label "Total Hours Required:" t-hours: drop-list data [0.2 0.4 0.6 
            0.8 1.0 2.0 3.0 4.0 5.0 6.0 7.0 8.0 9.0 10.0 11.0 12.0 13.0 14.0 
            15.0] 14x5
            label "Cost:" t-cost: field
            return
            return
            button "Save" []
        ]
        "Venders/Work Places" [
            label "Vender/Work Place Name:" vw-place: field 152x5
            return
            label "Street Address:" vw-street: field 171x5
            return
            label "City:" vw-city: field 103x5 
            label "State" vw-state: field 38x5 
            label "Zip:" vw-zip: field 23x5
            return
            label "Phone 1:" vw-phone1: field 29x5
            label "Phone 2:" vw-phone2: field 29x5
            label "Fax:" vw-fax: field 29x5
            label "Email:" vw-email: field 48x5
            return
            label "Contacts: " vw-contacts: field 181
            return
            label "Notes:" 
            return
            vw-notes: area 200x50
            return
            button "Save" []
        ]
        "Resources" [
            label "Name:" r-name: field 100x5
            return
            label "Cost:" r-cost: field 30x5 

            label "per" r-label: drop-list data ["Hour" "Day" "Week" "Month" 
            "Year"]
            return []
        ]
        "Make Lists/Charts" [
        ]
        "How To" [
        ]
        "Help" [
        ]
    ]
]
] ;end show-cc
do-events

1) Convert the next two lines to rebgui


;banner "0:00:00" rate 1 effect [gradient 0x1 0.0.150 0.0.50] 115x24

;feel  [engage: func [face act evt] [face/text: copy to-string round 
(session-time + (difference now/precise time-start)) show face]] 


(Note; to-string makes a copy for you already, so no need to copy 
again.

Actually, showing the face converts face/text to string for you automatically...)

Hmm, I'm running build#36 and get the following when running the 
test case from ticket# 53:

click on "A" to hilight, then "Probe":

["A"]
[1]

then click "Remove" followed by "Probe":

none
[]

Replace the display title with:

	display join "Build " ctx-rebgui/build ...

It should display "Build 36".

it will be good to insert cyphre widget (table and tree) into current 
version of RebGui !!

As for tree-view and menu - no need to reinvent the wheel - Cyphre's 
got really decent ones. The question is, how much would it take to 
redo them for RebGUI

what's the background color in rebgui ?  I want to place some invisible 
text ...

Would it be difficult to make Rebgui look by default as Network Detective? 
IMO this is example of nice and attractive app design, still close 
to OS and less funky than VID ....

Would it be difficult to make Rebgui look by default as Network Detective?
 ... Yes and no. Several things would need to be changed:

1) Default window background color and effect
2) Default color scheme
3) Default spacing, font and font size

which are all easy, and then some widget specific changes:

1) Tab-panel tabs drawn differently
2) Scroller effect added (so the background has a nice gradient)
3) Check-box and radio-button changes
4) Other widgets?


The hard part is to do all this and maintain a consistent look and 
feel. An added complexity is that RebGUI widgets are scaleable, which 
means it can't cheat and use bitmaps and pre-defined pixel metrics. 
Have a close look at the Apple user-interface guidelines ... they 
handle multiple widget sizes by hard-coding the pixel metrics for 
each pre-determined size. It looks great, but it's not a generic 
solution. You can't easily take the Apple interface and make it work 
on a mobile-phone ... or a 90" Plasma display.


I'm no graphics artist, but if someone can come up with a RebGUI 
style guide that plugs the values into the questions posed above, 
and a majority of folks think it looks "cool *and* professional", 
then I'll implement it. If it means taking a cue from Aqua, Vista 
or whatever then so be it. Anyone up to the challenge?

Is it possible to display an HTML page in a RebGUI window? Not display 
HTML code, but to display the formatted HTML page.

Spell check in Rebgui tour.r is not working for me. What am I doing 
wrong?

Download and install a dictionary file: http://www.dobeash.com/RebGUI/edit.html#section-4.2

Thanks, Ashley. I remember reading that now. RebGUI is very nice. 
I'm enjoying using it very much.

Build#39 available. Fixes the above issue and makes two other minor 
changes:

	1) Bumped the min required View version to 1.3.2

 2) Deleted the last line of %ctx-rebgui.r (which issued a halt if 
 the script was invoked in isolation - see Ladislav's comment in the 
 SQLite group from 2nd Nov)

I am trying to get an understanding of RebGui using the tour.r. Can 
someone assist me with  bit of code that will show 3 or 4 images 
down the left side of a window and a tabbed panel directly to its 
right. IE: Icons vertically down the left next to a panel that fills 
the remainder of the window.

http://www.dobeash.com/RebGUI/display.html#section-3.3.2

Graham, with regards to your resize question, the following should 
be enough to get you started:

	display "Test" [
		a: area #HW
		b: area

  button [ctx-rebgui/span-resize a as-pair b/size/x 0 hide b show a]
	]


If you want to take into account margin and gap sizes then you'll 
need to use values from ctx-rebgui/sizes

Two main ways:

	ctx-rebgui/colors/window: sky		; global change

	display "Test" [
		area
		do [face/color: sky]	; display-specific change
	]

can do similiar things with the effect facet as well.

Ok, problem is fixed in latest rebgui.

Ashley, please take a look at the xpeers RebGUI stuff. We have added 
a lot and should align the code lines.

Overall I think I have invested about 8000€ into RebGUI so far.

Robert - any screenshots? I do remember some of your older stuff, 
which looked pretty. I wonder if you use default RebGUI look, or 
you tweked it a bit, to something more pleasantly looking?

Again, if anyone want to merge my changes to RebGUI & document them, 
tell me.

Ashley, sent you our current RebGUI version with documentation.

Would someone please give me an example of how to feed data from 
a sqlite db into a rebgui table?

For your label problem, how many words are defined:

	...
	button [print length? ctx-rebgui/locale*/words]

Really? Even with code as simple as:

	display "Test" [label "AA:"]


The code that does the translations is nothing more than a simple 
select, which you can run manually by adding a halt to your code 
and doing the following from the console:

	select ctx-rebgui/locale*/words "AA:"

Build#48 committed to SVN, incorporating Robert's/Cyphre's extensive 
changes ((including new chart, drop-tree, grid, input-grid & panel 
widgets). Panel & Input-Grid added to %tour.r.


These new widgets (apart from panel) have an impressive range of 
options/features ... but scant documentation or usage examples. If 
Robert/Cyphre could post a few examples here that would help. If 
anyone reads the source code and figures something out then an entry 
or two here would be appreciated: http://trac.geekisp.com/rebgui/wiki/WidgetList

did you incorporated all changes or are there some left out?

 I left out the number-field widget and all references to it (as per 
 Cyphre's note in the widget source). Your button changes, especially 
 the addition of a click? word, were incompatible with mine so I left 
 them out as well. The rest of the changes were merged in pretty much 
 as they are; I have not had time to review/optimize the code in depth 
 ... although I fixed a few incompatibilities that prevented tour.r 
 from working. For your reference these were the minor changes I made::


 - instead of drop-list generating an error if it doesn't get a block 
 of strings, I changed it so it forms values within a block
	- radio-group does a reduce on the data block

 - rewrote panel widget so it works consistently and doesn't require 
 /origin changes to layout

 - the detect up feel in rebgui-display was failing with requestors 
 and an invalid mouse-down-offset so I added it as an extra condition 
 of the all block

 - tool-tip-time was incorrectly initialized to now, changed to now/time/precide 
 so it works on Mac/Linux

 - renamed tooltip-bkg to tooltip-fill and made tool-bar widget use 
 these new tooltip color settings (3 in total)
	- updated tour.r radio-group labels to strings
	- added panel and input-grid examples to tour.r
	- added place-holder entries in Trac WidgetList


My primary objective was to merge these changes ASAP before the code 
had diverged too much more. I'm happy with the merged result (it 
works and there are 5 new widgets), but it's probably not well tested 
or stable enough for a bundle yet.

The widget list at the rebgui trac site.

heh, Bobik is demotivated to use Rebgui because 1) text-list scroll 
under the horizont 2) area does not auto-scroll, when you hilite 
text by mouse. It is interensting, how various ppl feel about various 
"details"

re: area hilight. Refer rebgui-edit.r

	;added AREA too according to Robert's request -Cyphre
	hilight-on-focus: [area edit-list field spinner]

 caret-on-focus: [area drop-list edit-list field grid password spinner]
	action-on-enter: [drop-list edit-list field password spinner]


All of these can be modified at runtime by reference to ctx-rebgui/edit/<block>/<word> 
... the bigger question is what constitutes a reasonable set of default 
values.


re: radio-group. Robert's changes forced labels to be strings. I'm 
pretty comfortable with this change as label expects a string argument 
and a radio-group is a collection of labels. On the other hand, the 
reason I changed drop-list (to form all values) is that it is not 
reasonable to expect an arbitrary list of values to all be strings 
(e.g. a list of postcodes), and/or to expect the developer to maintain 
their string state. I'm open to counter arguments on this one though.

I had someone else email me with that exact same thought today! They 
wanted the ability to load and save RebGUI preference settings. Something 
I need to think about if we want to support a basic level of "skinning".

I've been thinking about Jean-Francois' comment. A simple but complete 
working example of a RebGUI + SQLite database would really help us 
those of us that are not professionals. If I start a new group for 
this, and reduce my program to just a few fields to make it as simple 
as possible, would you guys help me get it working? and we will just 
leave it in the public domain.

My preferred approach, which I'm working on, is to write an "official" 
document on interfacing RebGUI with SQLite (or any other database 
that returns its results as a flat block of values (i.e. does not 
store rows in sub-blocks)). I've had quite a few people email me 
with such questions recently.

Added a RebGUI cookbook with sections on SQLite integration and SDK 
app creation: http://www.dobeash.com/RebGUI/cookbook.html

of  course  our  final goal is to offert to RebGUI  community the 
first true  heavy fashonned Richt text editing widget

Impressive effort guys, and while it can enable things like WYSIWYG 
editors and HTML renderers it's not a priority for RebGUI inclusion 
at present. I'm comfortable waiting for an "official" solution in 
R3, but if folks need rich text *now* then they have at least two 
alternatives! ;)

I've added this to rebgui-edit.r feel -> engage -> switch

				alt-down [
					if face/type = 'area [
						face/action face
					]
				]

to allow me to bring up a context menu on the area widget.

Hmm, labels are Arial 12 in VID so the following should work in RebGUI:

	set-fonts/name "arial"
	set-fonts/size 12
	display "test" [label "Text"]

if not, check the font name and size used by VID;

	layout [a: label]
	help a/font

I prefer not to fork as it creates too much work merging back when 
Rebgui updates

I get an error message when running my Rebgui app on OSX. Works fine 
on windows Any ideas?

Fixed in build#46 (Desktop -> Demos -> RebGUI will fix it).

I am using the RebGui along with requests to a Rugby server. I am 
able to access functions on my Rugby server when calling from the 
action event of a button. Pretty straight forward. What I would like 
to do is call my rugby function async while on one of my RebGui tab-panels. 
I want to add the call to an event loop somewhere, but I don't know 
where to add it. Can you point me in the right direcion?

So, going to have to trap this in the 'current-word function in rebgui-edit.r

Ashley, I'm allowing users to create their templates by loading in 
their own rebgui display code ( I don't have a fancy layout editor 
like you do!).  This works, but I can't tab between the widgets though. 
 Is there some way I can get the focus system to work on user templates?

I looked at the nano-sheets but they use 'do which is not going to 
be safe.  Since this is not a Rebgui issue, I'll move this to the 
core group.

re Custom widgets and tabbing. You may want to have a look at the 
following blocks in the edit object:

	tabbed
	hilight-on-focus
	caret-on-focus
	action-on-enter

You can reference these within your init code as follows:

	insert tail ctx-rebgui/edit/tabbed 'my-widget

btiffin, feel free to interrupt, that's what this group is for. ;)

A simple example of sharing the same word is:

	v: "Hello World!"
	display "Test" [
		f1: field v
		f2: field v
	]


but once the display is substantiated then f1/text and f2/text contain 
their own copies of v. Tying them back is a manual process.


If you are copying values between a database and RebGUI "forms" then 
you may want to take a look at the get-input and put-input functions, 
they were added to make forms management easier (it saves you from 
having to assign widgets to words).

Probably not best practise, but I have scattered "attempts" throughout 
the Rebgui code to stop may apps crashing.

spinner widget now using alt click .. is that a problem for OSX
 Nope, OSX maps that to CTRL-click

The build I'm working on reverts spinner to a more "normal" behavior 
(I've worked out how to get half height arrows)
slightly anomalous behaviour ... modal requester

 The underlying View popup/modal system has some subtle bugs, some 
 of which will hopefully be fixed in R3.
scattered 

attempts" throughout the Rebgui code" ... Odd, I've never needed 
this. Is it only in more recent build(s)? I'd really like to identify 
and fix the underlying cause(s).

In the function 'current-word, in rebgui-edit.r

Hm. Getting this error with all my widgets derived from field

>> do %create-distribution.r
Script: "Create RebGUI distribution" (7-Oct-2006)
Script: "RebGUI system" (16-Feb-2007)
** Script Error: field has no value
** Near: dfield: make field [
    size: 7x5
] drop-list:

Hmm.  It worked in previous versions of rebgui .. I just had my fields 
after yours in the list of included widgets.

re: chevron. You'll also be glad to know that chevron will re-emerge 
as an option of arrow. The previous implementation didn't take advantage 
of AGG's new line-width command,and duplicated much of the code found 
in arrow anyway. I'm putting RebGUI on a diet and trying to remove 
some of the "fat" that has managed to creep in. ;)

ahh.. rebgui-ctx also has changed

rebgui-ctx has to be updated each build as that is where the build 
number is set (displayed in %tour.r).

Try moving your mouse over the big RebGUI logo in %tour.r ... then 
look at the very first line of the display block! ;)

Ok, pretty much the only thing I have changed is to use the latest 
rebgui .. and my app which normally used 0% of cpu, is now running 
0 - 20%, and sometimes 99% .. even when doing nothing.

Linked in an old version of rebgui and the cpu eating problem disappears.

Found the culprit! Set rebgui-ctx/effects/tooltips: false and things 
should return to normal. Next build will default to off unless I 
can fix this.

Some crude benchmarks with %tour.r

	tooltips: true		60-70% CPU
	tooltips: false		3%


Heavy optimization cuts the first one by 5% and the second by 1%, 
but the base cause of the problem is this line in rebgui-display.r:

	find-face event/offset event/face ctx-rebgui/tooltip-sensitive


which is needed to get around the View detect bug described here: 
http://www.rebol.com/docs/view-system.html#section-5.7

ctx-rebgui/effects/tooltips: false

Yes, adding some RebGUI stable release to a web-site is a good idea. 
I can do it, or Ashley do you want to do it on your web-site?

I get some propfind error, if I enter http://track.geekisp.com/rebgui

svn://svn.geekisp.com/rebgui

this information is on the page http://trac.geekisp.com/rebgui

American or British? Dictionaries can be found here: http://www.dobeash.com/RebGUI/edit.html#section-4.2

Few minutes ago I talked with cyphre, and he told me, there is a 
tree-view widget for rebgui, as he separated it from other widget 
code. IIRC Graham asked about tree-view widget few days ago. So, 
if Robert will agree with release, cyphre will upload it ...

is RebGUI widely used ?

i use rebGui 118 and rebDB203 to do it

it is just a simple example of a create refresh update delete of 
a pretty db rebdb with rebgui

i would like to optimize this with rebdb and rebgui

I would like to see proposals from the community to improve this 
point in R2 and rebdb, rebgui at first.
and later in R3!

Designing gui in rebol is quite simple, with rebgui even more....
So one aproach would be:
1. Make interface look like it shoud be
2. attach code to be executed on events

RebGUI already has support for forms

Thanks for the help, I am still digging around, will let you know 
the result. I will have to translate all that to RebGui though.

how is it that rebgui brought the shit out of me and that RMA just 
 let me unsensible  ?

do robert told you that in that era  (6 years ago) his make doc pro 
was one of the many spin off project  around carl ?  do robert tells 
you that slapping me  steeve and ashley on their face by totally 
ignoring rebgui  to do r3gui  wasn't the brightesdt idea ?

I was one of te  main contributor to RebGUI I was the one that  convinced 
ashley to do rebgui .... in fact here is how it went after a rebolday 
in paris france I ended talking with some in the time french gurus 
and then told me what is a core truth .... the strong point of rebol 
is VID  but VID isn't suited enought to stand on par with other products 
like wxwindows QT GTK+ or win 32