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Those were just tries. Any of the above logo is imo better than what 
Graham originally posted. But I am not satisified either. Here's 
my take, what needs to be considered for the logo to actually "work":


- you should define a brief - namely a description of qualities/characteristics 
of Red. What is Red, what sets it apart, what does it mean to you, 
what should it mean to ppl, what differentiates it from others, etc.


- type of logo - only letters? Letters plus pictogram? Shoul pictogram 
only decorate logo, or is part of the name? Pictograms are often 
related to the business, but I am not sure, if you are easily able 
to relate pictogram to "red", as it is a name of the color. Nor am 
I sure, if pictogram would express a programming language. What I 
would suggest, would be either - pictogram contains "R", which also 
works as a filetype icon. Or pictogram expresses some quality - e.g. 
>> (REBOL/Red prompt), [R] block as one of the main concepts (series)


- color scheme - not much options with something named Red, right? 
:-)


- usability - you should think about the color scheme, and logo in 
various forms - normal, inverse, black&white, icon, letterhead, business 
card, ppt presentation, etc. You can look for inspiration to how 
I aproached 2zone media logo with the agency - http://www.xidys.com/pekr/2zone_media_logotypes/

Doc - how goes your presentation for the Devcon? Interested in the 
Roadmap slide, which surely will be there :-)

We also have a presentation by the WebODF author every year :-)

In this DocumentFreedomDay-2012-playlist you can also find the film 
of Kaj's presentation about Red bindings with WebODF, LibreOffice 
and PDF last week in the Royal Library in The Hague, the Netherlands.

Have a look at these ones:
- http://static.red-lang.org/red-system-specs.html#section-1

- slides 7 to 13 in my SFD presentation: http://www.red-lang.org/2011/09/red-at-software-freedom-day-2011.html

Reichart - I suggest general About page, there is nice presentation 
Doc did for Reborcon - http://www.red-lang.org/p/about.html

Robert, Nenad's intial plan was for the Red compiler to directly 
generate machine code. So his first presentation reflects that. It 
was a few months after the launch that he decided to generate Red/System 
code from the Red compiler.

I'll tell Bas to schedule a Red presentation at Software Freedom 
Day coming week

Kaj, great! I'm looking forward to watch the videos of your presentation. 
:-)

Arnold: Red source zip links are on github since the beginning. Maybe 
you can write such presentation/instruction section, submit it in 
a gist, put the link here and on the Red ML, discuss with others, 
and when it's ready send it to me so I can review and publish it. 
I need to advance on Red construction rapidly now, so the website 
is currently lower priority to me.

That would be great. Otherwise I don't have a presentation :-(

So it's going to be a traditional Red/System presentation, with little 
Red and contexts

Here are the two movies of the presentation "Red running on the Raspberry 
Pi" done by Kaj during the first Hardware Freedom Day 2012 at the 
TkkrLab Hackerspace Enschede on saturday the sixth of october

Jerry: symbol! datatype is not reachable for Red users, it's an internal 
feature. I might also add series! and context! datatypes, it will 
be for internal use only too. You can see the types hierarchy at 
page 22 of this presentation: 

http://static.red-lang.org/Red-SFD2011-45mn.pdf

(the types in italic are internal types, not accessible for Red programming).

Does this mean no GUI or just gui done in different way?

 See all the presentation slides for Red, a native GUI system will 
 be provided. Also a web server with a new web framework will be part 
 of Red stack, so modern style web apps will be supported.


The GUI will probably be done in different way than R3 underneath, 
maybe a gob!-like datatype will be a good match, but such implementation 
detail is not known until implementation starts. Also, it is possible 
to extract R3 GUI code, wrap it in a shared library and plug it in 
Red (but I won't be the one doing that and maintaining such wrapper).

I have to wait to start programming my Raspberry Pi until I actually 
get it from Sinterklaas. After that I can try to test Red on it. 
I watched your presentation on programming in Red on the Raspberry 
Pi. No Syllable yet? WHat Linux did you use on the Rasp again Kaj?

Docs are always a hard question. I have always appreciated the docs 
that Carl and others spent time and care creating; the old Core manual 
appeals to me. Wikis are good for many things, though I seem to lose 
or confuse wiki logins more than other accounts, and their presentation 
rarely impresses me. It's an easy way to make things open for contributions 
though.

So - it might seem, that I contradict what Doc wants. I think I don't 
do so. He wants to be native on those above platform. And that makes 
sense. But - are those above platforms done in GTK? Enlightenment? 
Look at Microsfot - I just yesterday was watching their 5 hours of 
SharePoint plus Office 2013 presentation - most of their new stuff 
is becoming - HTML5. They are even scratching Silverlight for the 
typical desktop ...

I don't know how it stands up to "modern" standars wrt interactive 
documentation, but I know that Gigaspaces won some kind of award 
for the organization/presentation of their developer documentation 
- this was a few years ago when I was investigating the technology.


http://wiki.gigaspaces.com/wiki/display/XAP91/XAP+9.1+Documentation+Home

The Rde presentation shows the use of the binary Red. In it shows 
how to compile to get a cgi and a dynamic library. Are these also 
implemented in the current compile scripts? In that case that holds 
a good argument to update the Redcompiler.r script. It needs some 
work anyhow I noticed, it is rather location dependent atm.

That it is a target I can see now I have viewed the presentation 
a second time. Do you have a faint idea of a timeline when various 
stages of Red could become part of the real world? So version 4 in 
april and the first binary Red in 2015?

Last week Red presentation in The Netherlands, remastered by HostileFork: 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjPKj0_HBTY

Bas is still couching the presentation together :)

Arnold: the devcon in July will suck up a lot of my coding time, 
as I need to prepare the presentation and that's something I'm very 
slow at.

What's your presentation going to be one?

Very slow in making presentations? http://www.rebol.org/view-script.r?script=presenter.r

Well I know all about that, making a decent presentation takes a 
lot of time.

Kaj made a big breakthrough today on the commercial project we are 
using Red to develop.  That means we are close to getting paid.  
In turn, that means that Doc is close to getting as big a donation 
as we can afford for creating Red and helping us develop the functionality 
we needed in Red.  And if we can successfully market the product, 
Doc will be getting a donation for each one sold.  We are doing a 
presentation of the product on August 19th to people in the Computer-Aided 
Design industry toward that goal.

Bas published the videos of my Red presentation on Software Freedom 
Day at the Science Park in Amsterdam:

MaxV, the Prezi way of presentation is cool indeed. Only problem 
for me to use it is that you need to be online when viewing. Been 
hoping this woul dbe possible using REBOL itself. Btw can you point 
me to the code of the example with the moving road?

My game, Stunt Ace, has been released to iOS (iPhone, which also 
works on iPad).


Stunt Ace is a retro type game. REBOL was used in the development 
process to make a prototype and for the level editor. I also used 
the REBOL DRAW dialect to create the logo, icon and presentation 
graphics.


Stunt Ace can be found on Apple's App Store. The Android version 
can be found on Google Play.

Homepage: http://niclasen.name/stuntace.html

Stunt Ace was made using:
- Deluxe Paint on an Amiga
- GIMP
- Waldorf Pulse analogue synthesizer
- TimewARP 2600 analogue soft synth
- Roland A-90 keyboard
- A Mac
- A PC
- REBOL
- In-house software

Have fun!

I released a camera app for iPhone today.


The DRAW dialect of REBOL was used for all interface graphics. Also 
the presentation graphics was made using DRAW (except the actual 
photos, which were taken using the app). See:
http://niclasen.name/gcam.html


I like the results of the iPhone 4S and iPhone 5 smartphone images. 
It's hard to see, they're made with DRAW and not just photos.


GCam is waiting for review at Apple and will be available on the 
App Store typically within a week from now.

Beautiful presentation Jerry.

Ah, found a verbose: 1 left in natives.reds thanks to your presentation...and 
the code is missing a macro....funny way to debug/improve my own 
code. ;-)

Thank you for your presentation Kaj! I've enjoyed it, but I guess 
I'm too involved to be objective. ;-)

Arnold, you can downlad the Prezi presentation as a presentation, 
but you need internet for youtube videos. http://prezi.com/xyuhedfy0wmu/rebol/

Thanks Scot - I'm putting together a presentation to introduce this 
text, so that would be really helpful!

@NickA: About enhanced r3 chat, have a look to %wchat.r in the %OpenMe/ 
folder of this Altme world.

Basically its %chat.r but it act as a proxy between the Devbase server 
and the browser. The goal is that the browser replace the CLI interface 
: not typing command in CLI but cliking link in the browser.

Its just a start. There is some work to do to handle POST request 
and then allow posting. + enhancing HTML presentation.

now you're talking maxim! Presentation stuff ;)

Another thing, I want to make an 'application' using REBOL that plays 
an mp3, an mp3 with a story for kids and I want to display the pictures 
from the book depending on maybe a timer(file) so the pictures are 
displayed acoording to the storyline. This also could be a helping 
aid for making presentations. 

I do not want to binary save my mp3 in the source of the application 
or in any other rebol-script so I just want to use the mp3 file and 
not convert it.

Furthermore I do not want an external app to be started unless it 
can be done under the hood and/or it can be controlled by my app 
because the presentation could be paused by the user. Any ideas where 
and how to start such script.

Presentation is important.
Completeness is important.
Explanations are important.
Examples are important.

Presentation, please nothing fancy with popups on mouseover events. 
(besides who uses mice on tablets in future)

But needed is a good design, graphical eyecandy, make it attractive.

The approach needs to provide tools so easy you can layout an app 
as easily as making a powerpoint presentation, but with the power 
underneath to do absolutely anything.

In a classroom, imagine if the "powerpoint" allowed students to connect 
their smart phones to the presentation and control aspects of a weather 
simulation, or control a point on a Cartesian coordinate plane.  
The trick is to make this so easy to do that teachers can do it like 
they make power points.

EfishAnt lot of capabilities in nano-sheets I like ver mutch the 
presentation article

another presentation of the same effect:

mostly a spare time, but look at Carl's presentation - he sumes it 
up there too. There are few developers, doing REBOL full time:


- few top developers present here work for RT on contractual basis. 

- there is a company called SafeWorlds (Reichart's company) - he 
employs tens of ppl IIRC. Their new system is http://qtask.com, 
front end is web 2.0, but whole back-end is REBOL based.

- few developers working on their own - Henrik, Ashley, DocKimbel 
(mySQL, postgress cool protocols, Uniserve, Cheyenne)

anyway, i'm glad you like the presentation :) if you spot any typos, 
or find parts that are not clearly explained etc. (aside from the 
still missing parts), please let me know. the better that gets, the 
more people can work on it, fix bugs, add new features and so on 
 :)

Maarten - now looking into build-markup - sorry, it is just strange 
was of doing things .... noone will place rebol code into template, 
that will not work ... btw - the code is 'done? What happens if someone 
uploads template with its own code? I want presentation and code 
separation.

here is a short and concise presentation about sphinx http://www.scribd.com/doc/2670976/Sphinx-High-Performance-Full-Text-Search-for-MySQL-Presentation

I tried playing the presentation on Mandrake and all I got was the 
vid/no sound ? Which player are you guys using that will play a mp4 
?

As mentioned, you can parse in two different ways in REBOL: string 
parsing and block parsing. Recently (after using REBOL for years!!! 
Yes, you always keep discovering new things in REBOL.), I start to 
think about the two different ways of parsing, before I make a dialect. 
It's rather crucial, which way you choose, creating a dialect. String 
parsing is good for dialects, where you allow the user to type almost 
anything ... where you give lots of freedom. Block parsing is good, 
when you want the rules to be more narrow ... when you want the user 
to think in terms of works and symbols.


Latest I made the math dialect for NicomDoc. I choose string parsing 
giving lots of freedom. The dialect ended up specifying presentation 
more than semantic. The dielect is good to produce the formulas, 
just like you want them visualized. If (when?) I would make a math 
dialect, where I would put weight on the semantic (the meaning of 
the mathematical symbols), I would choose block parsing.

css may well try to isolate presentation layer, but imo it fails. 
You have box aproach, but let's relate it to VID area - the text 
in css terms will hide, if it is longer than the visible area, but 
- where is scroll-bar? Correct me if I am wrong, but you simply need 
'if and other good functions to program it exactly the way you want 
...

Pekr, I agree with you with pure cgi. Coding like that is from old 
days. But I think that Magic! (and FastMagic!) is a kind of mix between 
tamplate and rebol code. You can achieve good interaction with your 
web designer: have a look at the code of Rebol Directory: All rhtml 
pages starts with rebol codes, and then come the html. In the html 
section , there is not a single piece of application logic, except 
those specific for presentation (<rebol:if...>, etc...) So the idea 
is: your web designer provides you with the html and you just add 
the pure rebol code, without polluting the html sections. The design 
might change, but not the content, therfore, you web designer can 
modifier the rhtml, and the rebol codeur has nothing to do.

I hope Gabriele can post the vidceo for my presentation soon, so 
that you can see how it works and its capabilities.

Ammon :when I type rebgui in the firefox 1.0.4 location bar I get 
the redirection to the rebol france article (in french) I wrote ;) 
king of little presentation for french readers

I meant to do a call for papers/presentation abstracts earlier, but 
have been busy, the time is still good.

I will not be able to make it to DevCon2005... but here's my input.


It will be good if 'virtual audience' can have access to the speakers 
papers or presentation maybe the night or even as they are presenting.


That way.. we can listen and digest from the presentation on hand...

Robert - +1 for topic 1? Is that your topic? :-) So you want to have 
presentation about possible advantage of open-sourcing Rebol? Or 
am I missing something?

The title doesn't state "advantage of open-sourcing Rebol", the presentation 
will about if it's mandatory to get commercial success.

Gabriele, is it too late to add a presentation slot for me? (I thought 
I already had one (-  ) Topic would be:

	Building & selling REBOL-based solutions - theory and practice.

or if folks preferred:

	Building REBOL-based community projects - RebGUI case study.

Someone here wanted to prepare presentation about business possibilities 
and using certain language (REBOL). Here's one article regarding 
"The economics of programming languages" - http://www.dedasys.com/articles/programming_language_economics.html
(taken from osnews.com)

I have ordered my guys to prepare new notebook for me. Recently I 
have Core Duo Dell, but one month after purchase keyboard broke and 
now USB ports don't work well. Vista today ruined my whole REBOL 
USB pen directory, damned. It finds my usb pen on some ports every 
30 secs. What is more, I have 7200rpm drive, battery lasts only some 
two hours. Now I will have well, Dell once again, this time with 
slower HD but 2 GB RAM. I was at VMWare presentation for our datacenter 
just yesterday and I really liked it, so I am putting it on my notebook 
too ...

yes, I always see html as a "presentation" layer .... one of them 
...

denismx - look up Devcon 2005 videos and Gregg's presentation on 
Dialects ... nice explanation of Logo dialect and iirc I even saw 
somewhere (dunno if in the same presentation) Excell dialect ...

Just asking, as I noticed them being mentioned during Carl's presentation. 
Dunno if they are priority now? :-)

pekr, of course all these things are already available for OSX and 
have been for a long time. One thing that kind of surprised me is 
how many apps surpass Windows equivalents in quality, simply because 
the underlying foundation with Cocoa is incredibly strong. You can 
tap into a lot of amazing functions and the OS itself can do things 
where Windows would need third party software to do the same.

For example, look at Jaime's presentation from the REBOL conference. 
It was done in Keynote which is a presentation program made by Apple 
which makes Powerpoint look like a silly joke. It uses full 3D hardware 
acceleration and can apply pixel shader effects to the presentation 
through Core Image. By having a very strong set of video functions 
as well, presentations can be exported to a lot of different videoformats 
from DV to H264 or MPEG4, etc. in any size or framerate. You can 
also convert parts of it to a PDF document or a bitmap image. All 
this is possible, because OSX does this in Cocoa and is available 
at the developer's fingertips. This is also what made apps like iMovie 
possible, because they integrate into OSX.


Often the wrong question to ask is "Does program X exist for OSX?", 
because the programs are different and often of much higher quality. 
A lot of programs don't even have Windows equivalents. The community 
reminds me a bit of what bedroom programmers did during the old days 
of the Amiga, when they used the hardware and made beautiful demos. 
There are a lot of small, free apps available that do 2-3 things.

Ajax is a clear combination of four components protocol (http), data/interface 
(html), presentation (css) and behaviour (js).  You can create a 
functional web app with the first two.  Then you can optimise by 
modifying behaviour.  Then (or from the beginning) make it look good 
with CSS.

With an architecture where the presentation code is written purely 
in code, and not a combination of code and markup, and is delivered 
as a single simple download to run in a real language runtime, then 
things can be simplified significantly.

I want to use it to show a narrated slide presentation on my web 
site. Can it safely be used for that?

Petr: RSP can emit XML if you need to separate content from presentation. 
Btw, I'd be happy to see an XSLT lib done in REBOL.

Doc - all I need is my gfx man to work separately - that is way most 
templating systems don't suit me well. They are ugly mixture of code 
and presentation. I want only tags, and then parsing and replacing 
stuff.

Useful hint for those preparing a DevCon presentation :-)
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/04/04/powerpoint_bad/

Content of Carl's presentation was updated:

Introducing REBOL 3.0
 by Carl Sassenrath

(The content will be spread in probably more than one session)

Opening and a historical note.


What makes a system popular? Is it the language, the platform, or 
the applications? The bigger picture: the virtual OS. Moving beyond 
conventional OS models. Being a latform. The core of modern applications 
- it's not what you think.


The motivation for R3. The guiding theme. Portablity and extensibility 
- the R3 open foundation. Overview of R3 features.


Environments - embedding REBOL. Building your own version of REBOL 
- within a standard. Plugins - extending REBOL. The IO device model 
- how to create a device.


New datatypes. The Module architecture. Tasks, threads, and more. 
The new graphics system. All new port design. New debugging methods. 
New object tricks. DB access nd indexed files. IPv6 discussion. Compatibility 
- taming the lion. What's next? When and where can you get a copy? 
The goal of DevBase and DocBase.

Thanks Chris: great idea!

I've updated  the Latest Info page, and added a page about the Library 
presentation ... including a link to the presentation itself. Please 
feel free to read it a ay in advance.

yes, first presentation of Carl is over. It was "Historical note" 
... next one, "The mMotivation for R3" should be in 3 hours cca ...

Presentation is based on these docs:
http://www.rebol.it/steel/

I was actually looking forward to your presentation Reichart... too 
bad for the tech issues.

I'm on .... Library presentation available as a PDF

-- the verbose versions have (some) explanatory notes. Terse just 
have images and bullet points

-- the lr (low res) versions are 1.2 meg. The hr (high res) are 4.4 
meg
***

http://www.rebol.org/library/public/devcon2007-library-verbose-hr.pdf

http://www.rebol.org/library/public/devcon2007-library-terse-hr.pdf

http://www.rebol.org/library/public/devcon2007-library-verbose-lr.pdf

http://www.rebol.org/library/public/devcon2007-library-terse-lr.pdf

Excellent presentation, Sunanda. Well prepared.

Max said he had 400 people connected during his presentation yesterday.

So what is Quilt in general? Sorry, was not here for the most of 
the presentation. Is that just Qtask infrastructure "front-end" for 
browser client?

That presentation makes me think RT is still betting heavy on the 
desktop

I mean - after seeing Don's presentation ....

Christian, I had a good look at their website when it was mentioned 
first here in rebol-land. I am pretty sure you can find the whole 
presentation there.

if we're smart (and have the time) the presentation tool will be 
rebuilt so that the presentation can be broadcast

I'd say we need a presentation tool that relays layout data to a 
number of people along with streaming audio. That's my biggest issue 
with the experiences we've had with devcon videos.

Yes, just sat through a Microsoft Live Meeting presentation.  It 
was a very nice user experience.

I would like to see a presentation system with concurrent audio feed 
from the presenter.

I was thinking that and certainly calling from Skype is possible. 
I just received an email from Nick Antonaccio who offered his hosted 
flash media server. Along with that we has videoconference/presentation 
applications.

Hi James,


I've got 20 rooms set up already that I use to do live online music 
lessons on a daily basis.  I think the existing format of those rooms 
could work very well as they stand.  I'll create a special room just 
for Rebol Devcon.  I'd like to show you what I've got, to see if 
it'd work for your needs.  The audio/video conference software works 
on PC/Mac/Linux, in any browser that has a fairly recent version 
of the flash plugin installed (I believe version 6 onward will work 
- 8+ will definitely work).  Aside from flash, there's no installation 
required to use the system - just go to the designated web page. 
 It will allow anyone in the room to take turns jumping onto the 
mic/camera to speak (admin can ban unwanted users), there's a text 
chat, and I've got a really simple way of sharing screen shots already 
installed in the existing room setup.  It should take only a minute 
or 2 to show presenters how it works...


I've being doing daily live online music lessons as a part of my 
commercial music lesson business for the past 4.5 years, and this 
system is the most stable and simple that I'm aware of.  It'll work 
through just about any router/firewall configuration, and it's dead 
simple to use - visitors just go the url, and they'll hear and see 
the speaker.  If they want to be seen on camera and speak, they just 
need to have a web cam and microphone installed and working.  If 
flash is running in the browser, it'll work immediately, no download 
or installs to do.


There's a video that I send to students which explains a little about 
it:  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sx5qI0GWig


The online lesson page for my business, which has basic info about 
web cams, microphones, and headphones, is here:

http://rockfactory.us/OnlineLessons.html

Please let me know if you have any questions :)


> If someone will email me personally, I can start putting together 
some 

> suggestions about how to organize and manage the presentation. 
 I need

> to get an idea of what sort of software components will be needed: 

> white board, text chat, file sharing, 1-to-many/many-to-many video 

> conferencing, etc...  I'd also need to get a close estimate beforehand

> of the number of people attending, to make sure I prepare enough 

> bandwidth and available connections for the live event (If you'd 
like,

> I've got a little Rebol sign-up script that I use in my business 
to 

> let people sign up for events, you're welcome to use that if you'd 

> like, to help organize things).  Please let me know whenever you 
get a 
> chance!
>
> - Nick Antonaccoio

I thought it was adequate for a presentation.

The next step should probably be organizing presentation times and 
topics.  I've only seen the names posted on the mailing list (http://www.rebol.org/ml-display-thread.r?m=rmlCWZC).

Amacleod, as it stands, I've taken the screen grab app out of the 
presentation setup.  It was a Windows only solution that seemed to 
add potential complexity.  It appears that the best solution is to 
prepare screen shots beforehand, and upload the images to the file 
area.  Of course, screen shots could also be uploaded to that same 
area in real time...   If any presenter needs help with that part 
of the presentation, or if that solution will not work for anyone, 
please let me know.   I also have a whiteboard app installed at  
http://rockfactory.us/rooms/other/livepresenter/LivePresenter-admin.htm
  http://rockfactory.us/rooms/other/livepresenter/LivePresenter-viewer.htm
 .  I haven't used that application much more than just to try that 
it's installed properly, but I'm happy to add it to the setup if 
anyone wants to use it for the presentation.

Now is the time for presenters to please let me know of plans to 
present.  I'm reserving a special amount of bandwidth for the event, 
so want to get as close an estimate as possible.  Even a few hours 
of constantly streaming video, to many viewers, ends up being hundreds 
of gigs, so I'm hoping to estimate the presentation times as closely 
as possible.  Thanks!

I'm completely open to whatever the community decides to do :)   
It's probably not such a bad thing to keep this first presentation 
smallish, and to consider it a learning experience.   One thing that's 
clear so far is that it'd be good to decide on one or several people 
to manage operations officially, and to create a web site to organize 
future events.  For the time being, this event does appear to be 
shaping up well, for the short matter of days we've spent contemplating 
it :)  There are 19 live attendees signed up at http://rockfactory.us/events/devcon.html
.  We appear to have a viable way to make the presentation, and I'm 
looking forward to seeing anyone who has the time and motivation 
to speak about REBOL related topics :)

I do need a final list, by Wednesday, of all presenters, along with 
an estimate of  the amount of time required for each presentation. 
 If any presenter has a particular requirement for when in the order 
their presentation needs to take place, please let me know.  This 
must to be finalized now so that I can reserve necessary bandwitdh 
for the event.  Thanks!

Chris, if you click on my presentation, all my information is in 
there.  Photo, Bio, Topic, and Description.

Thanks to everyone who made DevCon2008 a reality.
****
A couple of follow-up points:


-- How about doing an eDevCon twice a year, whether or not there 
is a physical one too.

-- And plenty more notice so some Devolunteers can help with with 
set-up and promotion.


-- Chris's presentation would have seriously benefited from some 
sort of screen reader / whiteboard system....A camera pointing at 
the screen was not ideal.

May have slipped off on the 'Live' group, but Nick suggested a screen-capture-as-a-camera-source 
product for Linux and Windows (though I used a Mac for my presentation...)

With any luck the next online DevCon will have more preparation time. 
I look forward to your presentation, Terry :)