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I see it as a security risk, to allow such many important ppl to 
have on one plane. Sad event, I live 5 km from Poland border, we 
have many ppl with polish nationality here, we bear with them. And 
also strange symbol - they travelled to Russia because of past Katyn 
event, where Stalin killed 20 thousands of polish nationality - top 
politicians, military ppl, teachers, etc. - simply they killed polish 
elite of that time ...

(I heard, recently, that as far as Katyn goes, there were about 22 
thousands polish elites, and about 500 czechs too)

Yes, they simply eradicated all polish elite. This was an ultra-crime, 
and Poland will not forget it anytime soon. They were also first 
post-communistic country, who sacked russian army from their country 
IIRC.

still the sheer eeriness of the polish event is mind boggling.

all the parameters are perfect for a conspiracy theory  ;-/

Interesting article - with some polish this could be interesting 
to the http://lambda-the-ultimate.orgcrowd :)

Vincent I yet do it on resize event completion but it's during the 
completion of the resize event I need to have the refreshing to polish 
the UI eatch time the mouse pointeur is moved ..

Well.... quite frankly, I think we still need some spit an polish 
on those modals. Yep.

from the law pov, we should not sell non-localised products. And 
for our IOS system, we planned to plug-in czech, slovak and polish 
users, as we live close to both poland and slovakia. But RT told 
me they can't translate for such small project, so ....

Here's a handy-dandy little thing: http://rebol.hmkdesign.dk/vid-resize.r

Needs a bit of polish and some more testing, but it works.

My Russian is pretty basic ... but sometimes OK for chat as I read 
more than speak .. gets me by listening to Serb and Czech films (no 
ethno -lingual flames, SVP :-)   Polish should come next once I settle 
in here  ( also relatively easy for IT chat )

yes...I have some weak prototypes built, but hope to polish them 
this winter.

No luck finding a free polish - english translator..

I can translate a bit from polish

You might want to tell Micha that in something resembling Polish. 
:)

It needs to handle "" escaping too, but only in the case where values 
are quoted. Anyway, I have the function mostly done. I'll polish 
it up tomorrow.

>> db: open mysql://root:[gaia-:-127-:-0-:-0-:-1]/information_schema
connecting to: 127.0.0.1
>> insert db "select * from collations"
== none
>> length? copy db
== 124
>> probe copy db
none
== none
>> insert db "select * from collations"
== none
>> probe copy db

[["big5_chinese_ci" "big5" "1" "Yes" "Yes" "1"] ["big5_bin" "big5" 
"84" "" "Yes" "1"] ["dec8_swedish_ci" "

dec8" "3" "Yes" "" "0"] ["dec8_bin" "dec8" "69" "" "" "0"] ["cp850_general_ci" 
"cp850" "4" "Yes" "" "0"] [
cp850_bin

 "cp850" "80" "" "" "0"] ["hp8_english_ci" "hp8" "6" "Yes" "" "0"] 
 ["hp8_bin" "hp8" "72" "" ""
0

] ["koi8r_general_ci" "koi8r" "7" "Yes" "" "0"] ["koi8r_bin" "koi8r" 
"74" "" "" "0"] ["latin1_german1_c

i" "latin1" "5" "" "" "0"] ["latin1_swedish_ci" "latin1" "8" "Yes" 
"Yes" "1"] ["latin1_danish_ci" "latin1"

 "15" "" "" "0"] ["latin1_german2_ci" "latin1" "31" "" "Yes" "2"] 
 ["latin1_bin" "latin1" "47" "" "Yes" "1"

] ["latin1_general_ci" "latin1" "48" "" "" "0"] ["latin1_general_cs" 
"latin1" "49" "" "" "0"] ["latin1_spa

nish_ci" "latin1" "94" "" "" "0"] ["latin2_czech_cs" "latin2" "2" 
"" "Yes" "4"] ["latin2_general_ci" "lati

n2" "9" "Yes" "" "0"] ["latin2_hungarian_ci" "latin2" "21" "" "" 
"0"] ["latin2_croatian_ci" "latin2" "27"


 "" "0"] ["latin2_bin" "latin2" "77" "" "" "0"] ["swe7_swedish_ci" 
 "swe7" "10" "Yes" "" "0"] ["swe7_bin"

 "swe7" "82" "" "" "0"] ["ascii_general_ci" "ascii" "11" "Yes" "" 
 "0"] ["ascii_bin" "ascii" "65" "" "" "0"

] ["ujis_japanese_ci" "ujis" "12" "Yes" "Yes" "1"] ["ujis_bin" "ujis" 
"91" "" "Yes" "1"] ["sjis_japanese_c

i" "sjis" "13" "Yes" "Yes" "1"] ["sjis_bin" "sjis" "88" "" "Yes" 
"1"] ["hebrew_general_ci" "hebrew" "16" "

Yes" "" "0"] ["hebrew_bin" "hebrew" "71" "" "" "0"] ["tis620_thai_ci" 
"tis620" "18" "Yes" "Yes" "4"] ["tis

620_bin" "tis620" "89" "" "Yes" "1"] ["euckr_korean_ci" "euckr" "19" 
"Yes" "Yes" "1"] ["euckr_bin" "euckr"

 "85" "" "Yes" "1"] ["koi8u_general_ci" "koi8u" "22" "Yes" "" "0"] 
 ["koi8u_bin" "koi8u" "75" "" "" "0"] ["

gb2312_chinese_ci" "gb2312" "24" "Yes" "Yes" "1"] ["gb2312_bin" "gb2312" 
"86" "" "Yes" "1"] ["greek_genera

l_ci" "greek" "25" "Yes" "" "0"] ["greek_bin" "greek" "70" "" "" 
"0"] ["cp1250_general_ci" "cp1250" "26" "

Yes" "" "0"] ["cp1250_czech_cs" "cp1250" "34" "" "Yes" "2"] ["cp1250_croatian_ci" 
"cp1250" "44" "" "" "0"]

 ["cp1250_bin" "cp1250" "66" "" "" "0"] ["gbk_chinese_ci" "gbk" "28" 
 "Yes" "Yes" "1"] ["gbk_bin" "gbk" "87
 
 

Yes" "1"] ["latin5_turkish_ci" "latin5" "30" "Yes" "" "0"] ["latin5_bin" 
"latin5" "78" "" "" "0"] ["

armscii8_general_ci" "armscii8" "32" "Yes" "" "0"] ["armscii8_bin" 
"armscii8" "64" "" "" "0"] ["utf8_gener

al_ci" "utf8" "33" "Yes" "Yes" "1"] ["utf8_bin" "utf8" "83" "" "Yes" 
"1"] ["utf8_unicode_ci" "utf8" "192"


 "Yes" "8"] ["utf8_icelandic_ci" "utf8" "193" "" "Yes" "8"] ["utf8_latvian_ci" 
 "utf8" "194" "" "Yes" "8"

] ["utf8_romanian_ci" "utf8" "195" "" "Yes" "8"] ["utf8_slovenian_ci" 
"utf8" "196" "" "Yes" "8"] ["utf8_po

lish_ci" "utf8" "197" "" "Yes" "8"] ["utf8_estonian_ci" "utf8" "198" 
"" "Yes" "8"] ["utf8_spanish_ci" "utf

8" "199" "" "Yes" "8"] ["utf8_swedish_ci" "utf8" "200" "" "Yes" "8"] 
["utf8_turkish_ci" "utf8" "201" "" "Y

es" "8"] ["utf8_czech_ci" "utf8" "202" "" "Yes" "8"] ["utf8_danish_ci" 
"utf8" "203" "" "Yes" "8"] ["utf8_l

ithuanian_ci" "utf8" "204" "" "Yes" "8"] ["utf8_slovak_ci" "utf8" 
"205" "" "Yes" "8"] ["utf8_spanish2_ci"
utf8

 "206" "" "Yes" "8"] ["utf8_roman_ci" "utf8" "207" "" "Yes" "8"] ["utf8_persian_ci" 
 "utf8" "208" ""
Yes

 "8"] ["utf8_esperanto_ci" "utf8" "209" "" "Yes" "8"] ["ucs2_general_ci" 
 "ucs2" "35" "Yes" "Yes" "1"]

 ["ucs2_bin" "ucs2" "90" "" "Yes" "1"] ["ucs2_unicode_ci" "ucs2" "128" 
 "" "Yes" "8"] ["ucs2_icelandic_ci"
ucs2

 "129" "" "Yes" "8"] ["ucs2_latvian_ci" "ucs2" "130" "" "Yes" "8"] 
 ["ucs2_romanian_ci" "ucs2" "131"


 "Yes" "8"] ["ucs2_slovenian_ci" "ucs2" "132" "" "Yes" "8"] ["ucs2_polish_ci" 
 "ucs2" "133" "" "Yes" "8"]

 ["ucs2_estonian_ci" "ucs2" "134" "" "Yes" "8"] ["ucs2_spanish_ci" 
 "ucs2" "135" "" "Yes" "8"] ["ucs2_swedi

sh_ci" "ucs2" "136" "" "Yes" "8"] ["ucs2_turkish_ci" "ucs2" "137" 
"" "Yes" "8"] ["ucs2_czech_ci" "ucs2" "1

38" "" "Yes" "8"] ["ucs2_danish_ci" "ucs2" "139" "" "Yes" "8"] ["ucs2_lithuanian_ci" 
"ucs2" "140" "" "Yes"

 "8"] ["ucs2_slovak_ci" "ucs2" "141" "" "Yes" "8"] ["ucs2_spanish2_ci" 
 "ucs2" "142" "" "Yes" "8"] ["ucs2_r

oman_ci" "ucs2" "143" "" "Yes" "8"] ["ucs2_persian_ci" "ucs2" "144" 
"" "Yes" "8"] ["ucs2_esperanto_ci" "uc

s2" "145" "" "Yes" "8"] ["cp866_general_ci" "cp866" "36" "Yes" "" 
"0"] ["cp866_bin" "cp866" "68" "" "" "0"

] ["keybcs2_general_ci" "keybcs2" "37" "Yes" "" "0"] ["keybcs2_bin" 
"keybcs2" "73" "" "" "0"] ["macce_gene

ral_ci" "macce" "38" "Yes" "" "0"] ["macce_bin" "macce" "43" "" "" 
"0"] ["macroman_general_ci" "macroman"
39

 "Yes" "" "0"] ["macroman_bin" "macroman" "53" "" "" "0"] ["cp852_general_ci" 
 "cp852" "40" "Yes" "" "0
] [

cp852_bin" "cp852" "81" "" "" "0"] ["latin7_estonian_cs" "latin7" 
"20" "" "" "0"] ["latin7_general_ci
 

latin7" "41" "Yes" "" "0"] ["latin7_general_cs" "latin7" "42" "" 
"" "0"] ["latin7_bin" "latin7" "79" ""

 "" "0"] ["cp1251_bulgarian_ci" "cp1251" "14" "" "" "0"] ["cp1251_ukrainian_ci" 
 "cp1251" "23" "" "" "0"] [
cp1251_bin

 "cp1251" "50" "" "" "0"] ["cp1251_general_ci" "cp1251" "51" "Yes" 
 "" "0"] ["cp1251_general_cs
 

cp1251" "52" "" "" "0"] ["cp1256_general_ci" "cp1256" "57" "Yes" 
"" "0"] ["cp1256_bin" "cp1256" "67" ""

 "" "0"] ["cp1257_lithuanian_ci" "cp1257" "29" "" "" "0"] ["cp1257_bin" 
 "cp1257" "58" "" "" "0"] ["cp1257_

general_ci" "cp1257" "59" "Yes" "" "0"] ["binary" "binary" "63" "Yes" 
"Yes" "1"] ["geostd8_general_ci" "ge

ostd8" "92" "Yes" "" "0"] ["geostd8_bin" "geostd8" "93" "" "" "0"] 
["cp932_japanese_ci" "cp932" "95" "Yes"

 "Yes" "1"] ["cp932_bin" "cp932" "96" "" "Yes" "1"] ["eucjpms_japanese_ci" 
 "eucjpms" "97" "Yes" "Yes" "1"]
 ["eucjpms_bin" "eucjpms" "98" "" "Yes" "1"]]

== [["big5_chinese_ci" "big5" "1" "Yes" "Yes" "1"] ["big5_bin" "big5" 
"84" "" "Yes" "1"] ["dec8_swedish_ci
 
dec8" "3" "Yes" "" "0"...

I need to prepare some installation instructions for our polish partner. 
I will do some scripts to access mySQL on their server, using rebol, 
but I will not have access to the site. So I want to be well prepared, 
so they don't get annoyed after writing them tens of times "try that, 
try this" etc. :-)

They

 are getting there.  The open source army.  The polish on some of 
 the themes is getting very close to smooth.  art.gnome.org and other 
 such links.  tango resource standards.  Nice.

yes petr, i add things as i need them. i just don't have the time 
to polish it up and design a dialect for it

I've had recently the opportunity to dust off my experimental LDAP 
driver code, so I've decided to release it as-is, even if it's unfinished, 
at least querying the server and retrieving data is supported. Download 
at: http://softinnov.org/dl/ldap-protocol.r


The query dialect is probably not working 100%, but at least basic 
queries should do the job. I don't intend to implement more features 
now because I don't have any needs for a LDAP driver, but I'll try 
to fix the query dialect if required by users. I might accept to 
add the missing features and polish it under contracted work or bounty 
(if high enough).

Basic usage syntax and examples can be found in the file header.
Please use Ann-reply group for feedbacks.

I think I'll leave button for now, because I don't really know what 
else to add to it yet. I will probably go around all elements over 
time and when I reach the last one, I'll start going over them again 
for more polish.

Besides that - don't expect off-line video to come anytime soon - 
Gabriele was talking about weeks, as he needs to grab it, polish 
it etc.

Yes ... much better idea ...  I will do that testing while you polish 
off Red!

so far, I will do with calling external conversions routines for 
submitted strings from polish partner ...

I love the REBOL rarity lexical scanning.  Drove me nuts at first, 
it looked reverse

polish, as an ex-forther, that was a hard one to get round.  But 
now...no going back :)

Note that these are first impressions - I really don't know how much 
of a drag these apps are, or how much polish went into the particular 
apps I tried.

ofcourse it is a priority to polish parse ... but the thing is only 
car can try new feature...  having opensource accessible to all mean 
alot of tries can be done and shown and that's better than the 1 
to  X  relation we have. Mainly and i'm not the only one to say it 
we propose alot of things but since we can't show them they are. 
what do i want is a rebol that evolve faster ... it's been 2 years 
since rebol 3  enhancement started we lost alot of time in futil 
consideration like how do we name that and how about changing the 
name of this ... and we skipped during a loooooooooong time the main 
topic ....

Pekr, honestly... right now, a part from porting to another platform, 
there is too little documentation and oppeness for it to be very 
usefull to people in general.


I expect a few other platforms to get ported by Carl (he did a linux 
one this week), so he can continue to polish the OS independance 
of the code as much as possible.  


Supporting the extension model on other platforms seems to be a big 
priority.

I'll release a new Cheyenne version next week, probably on Monday. 
It will be v0.9.17, not yet rc1, still a lot of details  to add or 
polish for a v1. I'd like also to finish a working version of the 
control panel for the rc1.

Some of the R3 versions still need work, and I didn't have the time 
to review them to see which ones. I'll import the fixes that are 
solid for now, and the LIST-DIR after the R3 version gets some polish.

I need to move them into the R3 docs... so I'll polish them up during 
that.

Perhaps more logical to do so. But as I said, I can deal with this 
problem with no overhead.

When time will come  to polish Rebol we will manage it, but now there 
are still important missing features or bugs.
Just a matter of priorities.

Except if "test" really means "polish up for release".

If Carl indeed builds from the same codebase, then a binary release 
is identical with a core-only hostkit release except for above polish.

I will polish the test file and attach it to the bug report.

rebol in and of itself already does most of the low-level OS stuff... 
just two days ago... I used R2 as a delete function in order to polish 
a windows GCC script.  this strikes me as a similar situation where 
rebol could be used to probably replace a sizeable portion of the 
msys stuff... though it might not be as fast and optimised... that 
I do concede.

Well, it is a bit late now as Red/System implementation is reaching 
its end. I am trying to stick as close as possible to the REBOL syntax 
we are used to, if you have better propositions for the syntax, I 
am ready examine them, but I would like to finish on Red/System and 
start working on upper layers, unless you want me to polish Red/System 
for the next months and start working on Red 6 months later than 
I planned?