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Group: Ann-Reply ... Reply to Announce group [web-public]
Graham:
30-Mar-2005
I don't really understand why Carl can't stay connected no matter 
when he is ... it's just a question of either a laptop with roaming 
services, or, an internet cafe.  I see that the pages now have a 
[edit] link on the bottom too.
Colin:
30-Mar-2005
Sunanda - those a good points. So search the rebol web server log 
and see what the key words were that got hits from the SE. Start 
building pages that maximize those key words, have links back to 
your main Rebol sites and feed the SE with these links. Its an interative 
process that takes time and effort. At the moment all we see is time 
being spent.
amacleod:
29-Dec-2008
PeterWood,

Hows the quality of the binding? Would it be better to buy the pdf 
version and have it printed and bound locally? I would not mind having 
access to the pdf too.
and..

There is nothing worse than a cheap bound where the pages start falling 
out...
BrianH:
24-Feb-2009
Data Exection Protection, a way to mark memory pages as data, not 
code. If you try to run code in these pages it stops you. Any code 
that requires DEP to be turned off to work is insecure.
Maxim:
20-Aug-2009
about www.reboltutorial.com , its one of the best rebol specific 
pages out there... There is a lot of very cool & unknown work on 
that page.... too bad the author hasn't put any of his stuff on rebol.org.... 
we would have more knowledge of it.   strange is that the author's 
name isn't anywhere on the site... even though we have a good clue 
as to who it is IIRC...
Maxim:
20-Aug-2009
pages = sites
Maxim:
9-Jun-2010
The styling mechanism is all up to you.  currently, the site is a 
mix of CSS, images and run-time html generation.


As I start adding dynamic content tags, I might start using some 
remark code within the CSS to keep the style programmable.


things like colors, texture-names, could all be resolved from remark. 
 Where and how that information is stored is totally separate from 
the engine.


remark tags are little dialects which are created & parsed dynamically, 
stored as sets, which are called document models.   Using a smart 
caching system and a feature I call "dialect Learning" you can *merge* 
different document models together and leverage code from a variety 
of sources.


In the above the <main-menu!> might generate markup containing remark 
tags which you define before or later, the menu will adapt its style 
for your needs.   so the same menu, will in fact generate different 
html output based on what mix of document models you are using.  
 one might build animated javascript, the other might be only static 
HTML.


the style is much more than just "looks" its actual content, but 
the nice thing is that your source HTML is totally unchanged, and 
there is no "Code" in your pages, only markup.
Maxim:
10-Jun-2010
this means a <!users-table> tag which is defined via <!table>  could 
actually generate different content if the <!user-list> tag from 
various document models are used in different parts of your site 
or one different sites.   


meaning that the same content pages, will ultimately adapt to the 
document models used, and not the other way around, which is how 
we are used to building web pages.
Group: I'm new ... Ask any question, and a helpful person will try to answer. [web-public]
Oldes:
3-Jun-2007
The true is... thay have very nice looking pages:-(
Group: Make-doc ... moving forward [web-public]
Normand:
5-Apr-2005
Did some one found a way to have a FAST Rebol editor.  I did remarked 
that the cursor is slowing to a crall on big texts in MDP-Gui.  It 
is also quite slow with VT-editor or ion-pe, or even with this very 
small editor in alt-me, the one with which I write now.  Tcl, for 
example, does have two tk texts widgets (text and C-text) to properly 
handle text.  Could there be a way to have a fast editor in Rebol, 
something that could handle a text of 100-200 pages in a manner that 
is as fluid as something like notepad.  I am a newbee and find MDP-Gui 
to be a nice course on how to play with text rendering.  Although 
I would rather have only one window, and alternate from the editing 
window to its rendered view.  Full window is nicer to write text. 
 Side by side is nicer to compare marked-up text to its rendering, 
but after a while, we know the rendering and simply want the fuss 
a a nicely rendered text.  I am fidling with this idea, but do stumble 
on the editor part.  I dont even know who is the culprit, area or 
the ctx-edit.  If someone has a simple solution to this, he should 
post it.
Volker:
19-Apr-2005
1a) i use "%" as marker, not camel-case. and store everything in 
file. currently i use this to add relative links to make-doc-pages

1b) a reblet could check all links, and suggest to create missing 
files.

2) i use the "%"-translator as a preprocessor, so i have not to patch 
the make-doc*.

3) Have a seperate work-folder for each user. so auto-downloads would 
not overwrite it. and then you can use your prefered merger if there 
is a clash. its all files then.
Group: PDF-Maker ... discuss Gabriele's pdf-maker [web-public]
Janeks:
25-Oct-2005
It is probably a bit funny, but I used to put both of following head 
part in my HTML pages:

    <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=windows-1257">

    <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-10">

It worked so that it was corectly displayed in M$ Exploer and Opera.

The Baltic Rim ( "Windows Baltic Microsoft code page – cp 1257") 
is the standart.

I will send to your e-mail couple of images with characters and codes.
Gabriele:
3-Apr-2006
the xref contains the location in the file of any pdf object (such 
as pages, fonts, and so on)
Gabriele:
3-Apr-2006
depending on how much you need to parse the original file, you may 
need to just read a few pages, or learn the whole spec
Janeks:
29-Jul-2006
Why I am getting this error?
>> do %pdf-maker.r
Script: "PDF Maker" (2-Jun-2006)
>> layout-pdf [[textbox ["This is some text."]]]
** Script Error: Cannot use add on none! value
** Where: make-pages
** Near: pid: (2 * length? pages) + i
foreach
>>
Janeks:
31-Jul-2006
REBOL/View 1.3.50.3.1 14-Oct-2005 Core 2.7.0
Copyright 2000-2005 REBOL Technologies.  All rights reserved.
REBOL is a trademark of REBOL Technologies. WWW.REBOL.COM
>> change-dir winpath-to-file "C:\rebol\scripts\pdf_maker"
== %/C/rebol/scripts/pdf_maker/
>> do %pdf-maker.r
>> myLayPdf: layout-pdf [[textbox ["This is some text."]]]
** Script Error: Cannot use add on none! value
** Where: make-pages
** Near: pid: (2 * length? pages) + i
foreach
>>
Janeks:
2-Aug-2006
There was a reason - already forgot it.

The only thing in user.r was the function above (except set-net) 
- and I removed it ;-)
But:
REBOL/View 1.3.2.3.1 5-Dec-2005 Core 2.6.3
Copyright 2000-2005 REBOL Technologies.  All rights reserved.
REBOL is a trademark of REBOL Technologies. WWW.REBOL.COM
>> change-dir to-rebol-file "C:\rebol\scripts\pdf_maker"
== %/C/rebol/scripts/pdf_maker/
>> do %pdf-maker.r
>> myLayPdf: layout-pdf [[textbox ["This is some text."]]]
** Script Error: Cannot use add on none! value
** Where: make-pages
** Near: pid: (2 * length? pages) + i


Could it be connected with that I am starting rebol with view.exe 
-i ?
Henrik:
4-Aug-2006
gabriele, I was more thinking about general page layout, not the 
lower level text flow functions, so you  can decide a general template 
for your pages on your own.
Gabriele:
4-Aug-2006
i.e. it's much more flexible than TeX actually, however there are 
a number of drawbacks; you can't apply a fit algorithm to pages (boxes 
in this case) if they are not all the same width.
Henrik:
5-Aug-2006
this question might not entirely be related to PDF Maker, but I had 
an idea of using Pages for MacOSX to create pretty PDF documents 
with areas where text can be put in by a separate program and then 
create a new PDF (not X-Forms) for printing. This would require the 
ability to search/replace text in PDFs. Is this possible with compressed 
PDFs?
Gabriele:
5-Sep-2006
yes... if you're typesetting a book, you'll want the quality; if 
you're typesetting an invoice, you won't care about justification 
with the total-fit algorithm (although, the total-fit algorithm could 
still help to break pages when there are tables)
Anton:
5-Sep-2006
An invoice usually wouldn't be more than one or two pages ! :)
Gabriele:
11-Sep-2006
this would also mean that the table's columns need to have a different 
width across pages. ie column 1 in page 1 has a different width from 
column 1 in page 2.
Anton:
11-Sep-2006
I think that could be useful. As tables get longer (and need to be 
broken across pages) it becomes more probable that it has data with 
a very wide range of widths. In that case, reproportioning the table 
for each page makes sense. But perhaps when crowding between cells 
occurs because of very wide entries, simply wrapping text within 
cells would allow the column width to remain the same for the whole 
table.

On the whole, I would prefer to have consistent column widths, but 
there might be cases where that's really annoying. I would probably 
put that as a lower priority feature for now.
DaveC:
31-May-2007
I've just downloaded pdf-maker.r and I'd really appreciate some help 
to get going quickly. I've rotated a page +90 to get into landscape, 
but the texbox still  renders the text in the same way as portrait. 
Do I have to rotate each textbox too?


I also downloaded pdf-tables.r too. Does a  table handle a page break 
itself?


Talking of page breaks, in a long table which spans many pages, I'd 
like to render the column headings on each new page. Is there a variable 
I can track or an event I can listen for that lets me know that the 
text is about to flow to the next page.

Thanks a lot.
Gabriele:
31-May-2007
pdf-tables lets you provide a function to create the pages, and you 
can still modify the output. so, you can create the headings separate 
from the table itself.
Gabriele:
31-May-2007
5th argument to render-pages is a function that is called to make 
the scheleton of each page.
Gabriele:
31-May-2007
also, since the result is a block of pages, you can modify the result 
and add anything after the layout process.
kib2:
14-Feb-2009
Gabriele: good to know it's alive, I was asking the question because 
the pages were not updated till 2006. Is that normal ?
Gabriele:
23-Aug-2010
what you can do is create a stream of text, and then flow it across 
multiple text boxes, or multiple pages.
Gabriele:
23-Aug-2010
then, the pages are defined as:

    any [
        textbox  10 29 90 248 from book
        textbox 110 29 90 248 from book
    ]
Gabriele:
23-Aug-2010
which means: "create ANY number of pages, as necessary, using the 
following as the template for each page"
Gabriele:
23-Aug-2010
you can have different templates for even and odd pages.
Gabriele:
23-Aug-2010
as you see, it determines the image size, then sets the text margins 
so that you can make it flow around the image. it's a "trick" but 
it works if the image is not fixed within the page but moves around 
with the text, and you know it won't be split across pages.
Graham:
24-Aug-2010
this is the end of the file 

endstream
endobj
8 0 obj
<< /Type /Pages /Kids [6 0 R] /Count 1 >>
endobj
1 0 obj
<< /Type /Catalog /Version /1.4 /Outlines 2 0 R /Pages 8 0 R >>
endobj
2 0 obj
<< /Type /Outlines /Count 0 >>
endobj
3 0 obj
[/PDF /Text /ImageC]
endobj
xref
0 9
0000000000 65535 f 
0000005180 00000 n 
0000005259 00000 n 
0000005305 00000 n 
0000000009 00000 n 
0000000111 00000 n 
0000000208 00000 n 
0000000414 00000 n 
0000005123 00000 n 
trailer
<< /Size 9 /Root 1 0 R >>
startxref
5341
%%EOF
Gabriele:
26-Aug-2010
no. v1 does not flow text automatically across pages, does not allow 
putting graphics within text, does not have the TeX engine, and so 
on.
Group: Parse ... Discussion of PARSE dialect [web-public]
Oldes:
26-May-2007
and anyway... 12 or 8 millions google rusults  is not a big difference 
if your page is not listed between first 20 pages:)
[unknown: 9]:
30-Jun-2007
We so need a Wiki for Rebol, and shove every word and example into 
it.  Just Parse needs 100 pages of examples and descriptions.
Group: Web ... Everything web development related [web-public]
Graham:
29-Mar-2005
and can you read non ssl pages thru the proxy with rebol?
Tomc:
18-Jun-2005
pages go from 01 thru 20
François:
8-Sep-2005
Pekr, I agree with you with pure cgi. Coding like that is from old 
days. But I think that Magic! (and FastMagic!) is a kind of mix between 
tamplate and rebol code. You can achieve good interaction with your 
web designer: have a look at the code of Rebol Directory: All rhtml 
pages starts with rebol codes, and then come the html. In the html 
section , there is not a single piece of application logic, except 
those specific for presentation (<rebol:if...>, etc...) So the idea 
is: your web designer provides you with the html and you just add 
the pure rebol code, without polluting the html sections. The design 
might change, but not the content, therfore, you web designer can 
modifier the rhtml, and the rebol codeur has nothing to do.
Brock:
9-Sep-2005
left nav area is standard on all pages actually, so Pekr's link would 
do  ;)
Volker:
11-Oct-2005
IIRC pdfmaker has some hooks for pagebreaks. gabriele has something 
which makes tables across multiple pages, and rows are keept together. 
And seems the basics are inbuild to pdfmaker. Maybe Gab can step 
in?
Anton:
2-Feb-2006
yeah, server-side aren't they Active Server Pages ?
Ashley:
2-Feb-2006
My online bank account uses ASP to generate monthly statements, which 
works fine from Opera, IE and Safari - but fails under FF with a 
"Could not open xyz.asp"; so I figured it had a problem with ASP 
pages in general.
Oldes:
13-Feb-2006
I'm administrating some pages where is a lot of text articles published. 
And because 50% of the trafic is done by robots as Google crawler, 
I'm thinking about that I could give the content of the page in Rebol 
format (block). Robot will get the text for indexing and I will lower 
the data amount which is transfered with each robots request, because 
I don't need to generate designs and some webparts, which are not 
important for the robot. What do you think, should I include Rebol 
header?
Sunanda:
13-Feb-2006
That's a form of cloaking. Google does not like cloaking, even "white 
hat" cloaking of the sort you are suggesting:
http://www.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=745


Better to respond to Google's if-modified-since header -- it may 
reduce total bandwith by a great deal:
http://www.google.com/webmasters/guidelines.html


Also consider supplying a Google Sitemap -- and that can have modification 
dates embedded in it too. It may reduce googlebot's visits to older 
pages
http://www.google.com/webmasters/sitemaps/login
Oldes:
13-Feb-2006
yes, no problem, and the issue with the bots - if the bot don't support 
cookies (non of them does), i can give him whatever I want, I'm not 
cheeting, I just may think, that it's somethink like LYNX and serve 
him pure text pages:) And if he don't like it so it's his problem 
(or its?) And with the robot.txt file - ugly bots will not respect 
robot.txt file anyway :)
Oldes:
15-Feb-2006
just run it and than I can do read pages and cookies are processed 
automatically
Chris:
17-May-2006
Updated: my 'Anywhere' style sheet for Make-Doc Anywhere.  Please 
contact me if you have any problems/weirdness with older pages...
Sunanda:
11-Sep-2006
Anyone else getting their logon pages nibbled by botnets?

Here's some (failed) REBOL.org logons from yesterday. Format is attempted 
user-name (truncated to 12 characters) followed by IP address of 
the perp:
hvrkme6mailr 203.113.13.4
wjn4r55ebayc 203.113.13.4
jsyqbrvebayc 220.124.170.169
mnpwtrugmail 220.70.88.162
orf9a3aaltav 220.77.210.71
lcfu7h2searc 217.10.190.36
djspeememail 211.170.204.237
zdgnhb9hotma 211.48.29.27
aown600micro 59.6.92.19


It seems sad that the level of intelligence of malicious bot writers 
is so low. I blame TV.
Anton:
30-May-2007
Pekr, I prefer the expanded menu, immediately available. I don't 
care if it's two or three pages long. If the section titles are bolded 
(eg. "Internet a site", "Kiosky" etc.) and obvious, then reading 
them while scrolling down the page is no problem. And I think your 
search bar should go at the top, to solve the problem of being too 
far down to be visible initially.
Maxim:
18-Jun-2007
what I want to do is build a tag which caches its parsed data unless 
a trigger even occurs.   this would, for example allow you to cache 
parts of pages or whole pages... depending on where you put the <cache! 
> tag.
Pekr:
18-Oct-2007
I would like to resolve following situation:


- on our kiosk, we have following set-up - Apache running locally, 
and once Windows starts, it runs http://localhostin full screen.

- I wanted operator to have more easy life (not taking wireless keyboard 
each time), so I wrote View script, which sits in the memory, and 
waits for USB drive to appear. Then it copies new stuff from USB 
drive to C:\kiosk dir.


However - we found out, that the presentation still returns old pages. 
They seem to be cached somewhere. What should I do about it? Improve 
script to:

- restart presentation?
- restart Apache service?
- disable caching somehow?
- flush the IE cache somehow? (could take long)


And remember - the aim is for the operator to have seamless operation 
- plug-in USB disc, wait for update, unplug disk.
Sunanda:
19-Oct-2007
Another option is to send the HTTP headers to say the pages are not 
to be cached.
Graham:
19-Oct-2007
If you make it all cgi, then your pages will never be cached.
Sunanda:
19-Oct-2007
That may be true for more intelligent browsers, Graham.
But, sadly, IE regularly caches pages with parameters.
Anton:
10-Jan-2008
Any DOM experts here ?

I have a frameset with two frames, and in the first frame there is 
a menu implemented with <ul>.

I am wondering if I can move the <ul> menu out of the frame into 
the top level document. (The frame exists only for the menu, so I 
should be able to size it to zero so that it does not obscure the 
top-level doc.)

This would mean I could keep the website frameset-oriented without 
doing the work of converting it to single pages. And frames allow 
pure HTML to include code efficiently.

I found document.body.removeChild(elem), but I get lost when I try 
to identify the new location and createElement.
Can anybody help with that ?
Brock:
2-May-2008
Robert, are the pages you are accessing static, dynamic or a combination 
of the two?
Brock:
2-May-2008
I don't think the method Doc provided will work for dynamically generated 
pages.  For dynamic content  you will need to use something like
	checksum http://www.rebol.com

However, you will need to maintain a list of the last time a page 
was checked.
Kaj:
15-Jan-2009
Would you write 20.000 similar web pages for a web store, or would 
you write one template and store the properties of the goods in a 
database, for example?
Pekr:
15-Jan-2009
I am always thinking from such perspective! My simple tagging system 
completly separates presentation from scripts. In such regards, concept 
like rebol server pages is something I can't absolutly agree with. 
So if QM uses RSP, then where is the separation?
Robert:
25-Jan-2009
Has anyone written a web-shopping cart system using Rebol? So a simple 
CGI api to add/remove stuff to a shopping cart? Felxible enough so 
that it can be integrated with existing web-pages and shopping cart 
content can be forward to different check-out system?
Robert:
25-Jan-2009
Yes, I know oscommerce (or xtcommerce which is IIRC a fork). I use 
Rapidweaver for Web-Pages so I would like to integrate all this.


The problem I have is, that all these shop system push you to use 
their layout engine etc. There is none I know, that just does the 
non-gui backend part.
Robert:
25-Jan-2009
Layout: Use what you like.

Item presentation: Dead simple integration into existing pages. No 
frills, simple to change.
Shopping Cart: Provides simple API that can be called via CGI
Payment Forwarding: Plug-Ins where to route the payment process
Robert:
25-May-2009
Forms: How do you make forms for web-pages? Do you use any "tools" 
or just hand-code them?
Andreas:
11-May-2010
the history pages are not supposed to be indexed
Andreas:
11-May-2010
the history pages being _read_ is fine, their content being _indexed_ 
is not :)
Graham:
11-May-2010
Finished now at 27k pages ...
Graham:
12-May-2010
33.36k pages indexed
Sunanda:
14-May-2010
Must be possible --- whe pages or sites are removed, or if they later 
post robots.txt exclusions.
Graham:
15-May-2010
Interestingly this search engine has a REST interface so you can 
wrap your own custom search around it.  95k pages and still going 
...
Graham:
14-Aug-2010
http://www.diigo.com


Looks like an interesting way to add annotations to rebol.com etc 
and share them with others without actually altering the pages
Ashley:
27-Jan-2011
Would using any modern word processor then saving as HTML be any 
worse than Frontpage? ;) I wouldn't do a complex site this way, but 
for a couple of static pages it may suffice.
Henrik:
27-Jan-2011
Just don't use Frontpage. If you end up having to edit the pages 
later by hand, it's faster simply to build them by hand.
Kaj:
27-Jan-2011
If Frontpage is the alternative, WebMatrix looks a lot better. However, 
it's focused on developers and complex backends. If the goal is simple 
web pages for a common user, KompoZer is probably better, and more 
in the ballpark of Frontpage
Maxim:
28-Apr-2011
a good resource I found to start using HTML 5 and help make those 
pages work somewhat backwards compatible on non html5 browsers.

http://diveintohtml5.org/
Group: Announce ... Announcements only - use Ann-reply to chat [web-public]
[unknown: 9]:
31-Dec-2005
The Gripe:


Go here www.Rebol.org, then go here: http://www.ruby-lang.org/en/, 
then here: http://java.sun.com/, hell even go here, http://msdn.microsoft.com/vbasic/, 
now go back to www.Rebol.com


Even if you don't know what the language is or does, do you want 
to go to Rebol.org?  The main page looks like the last page in the 
basement of a website.  Almost like an "error page"

O There is no single location for all Rebol information.

O Rebol.net, Rebol.com, and Rebol.org are spread out and run by RT. 
O There is no pizzas!
O I don't "feel" community when I visit these sites.


I know I'm not talking to my audience when I say; "think of this 
like a night club" but this is what this is all about.  People want 
to "be where the fun is happening."  Even programmers.

My Suggestion:

O We need a site controlled by the developers.

O We need a forum where people can bitch and meet each other, and 
feel welcome.

O The site needs to have a consistent dynamic attractive template.

O The site needs to be a clearing house for all other sites.  Teach 
and directing people to all the resources.

O The site needs to paint a picture as opposed to describe everything 
with a thousand words.

What is entailed:


O Start a new site, I would propose "RebolCentral.com"  I'm willing 
to pay for it, but I don't want to be in charge of it, I suggest 
we make it a committee.


O The main page should cover every topic and reason anyone would 
come to the site.  This means we support every country and other 
site.  The idea here is a clearing house of centralized information. 


O News: The site needs to gather news worthy information and post 
that at the top.  The site is not alive unless people have a way 
to post their information.  This means that there needs to be at 
least one editor, if not several that share the task.  Every time 
a product is updated, the new features are mentioned.  When Carl 
updates his blog, it gets a single sentence directing people there, 
unless it is news of a release of something.  Etc.


O Product Reviews:   This is key.  Products need to be rated, reviewed, 
categorized, voted on.

O Video Archive: All the videos of all the talks ever given   


O Tutorials:  there are a lot of tutorials out there, but which are 
best?  We need to review the tutorials, rate them by Beginner, Intermediate, 
Advanced.  


O Forum: Start with major topics, and then break it down.  The forum 
needs to direct people to other countries, or support the other countries 
right in the forum.  Great simple forum: http://discussion.treocentral.com/index.php?styleid=1


O Respect the real estate.  The #1 mistake people make is treating 
their websites like just pages.  This is just like real estate, location 
location location.  We need to place the content based on where people 
are going.  So you build the basic site, watch it for a couple of 
weeks, then shift things around based on where people are actually 
going. 


O More art, more photos, more community.   It needs to feel inviting: 
http://msdn.microsoft.com/events/pdc/

Stone soup:


I will pay for, host, and supply a fast linux system (w/archive). 
 

I will help design the templates, and provide (and buy if needed) 
great art for the site.

I will not run the site, nor control the content, but I expect there 
to be in place all the items outlined above, set up in a manner that 
it a) runs itself, b) puts the power in the hands of the developers.
Maxim:
21-Feb-2007
REMARK HAS NOW FINALLY BEEN RELEASED ON THE STEEL WEB SITE


REMARK is a robust web site building tool which allows you to construct 
your own custom tags using rebol values and dialecting.

The main difference of remark with other tools of its kind, is that 
the web pages do not contain code, they contain data or parameters 
to your custom tags.  Remark also persistently reparses tags until 
no more custom tags exist in the dialected tags you create. this 
means you can actually build up your pages with custom which use 
custom tags themselves... talk about leverage! 


at version 1.3.5 it support multiple site configs, ftp dumping, site 
specific configuration, and the very flexible remark engine itself. 


Creating tags is trivial and for simple templating, you don't even 
need to know how to code in rebol... just html content within stored 
files can be nested within your site's pages and will be included, 
by simply adding a tag which is called like the stored html.


Using differently named source file extensions you can even decide 
to parse the content differently, so that you can create different 
page templates or one can even decide to create a make-doc handler 
for example (its not included by default, just possible if you need 
it).


you can check-out the FULL documentation, including tutorial, example 
site, reference page and guides on adding new tags and templates. 


here: http://www.pointillistic.com/open-REBOL/moa/steel/retools/index.html
Group: SDK ... [web-public]
Geomol:
6-Feb-2009
You can have references to REBOL script, but also to HTML pages, 
documents, images, etc etc.
Group: !RebGUI ... A lightweight alternative to VID [web-public]
Volker:
27-May-2005
mixing vid with rebgui has also some api-problems. some i found:

 /action: has in vid this args: [face value]. value is something usefull, 
 like area/text, slider/tdata, first text-list/picked etc. maybe its 
 not needed, "value" saves not much to "face/text". but supporting 
 that arg would be compatible

 /init: in vid this is a block and 'done. in rebgui it is a function. 
 vid has the advantage that init can be easily extended in substyles, 
 just add to it. rebgui has locals because it uses a function.
 /init2: not called by vid. 

resizing: not in vid, but one could write a /resize and plug it in 
the vid-face.

also there are some global changes which may break other things (removing 
event-func and changing global face IIRC).


If there is interest in making such small changes, i would help with 
making the rest compatible. adding #xh - parsing to 'layout and such. 
for "keep small" rebgui could have a "load-time-flag" to decide about 
using vid-stuff or all own.

What i would really like is rebgui for complex style-building (area 
with slider etc). this is closer to raw faces. and vid for quickly 
writing "pages", IMHO it has a rest of advantages there. (maybe not, 
i am a rebgui-beginner).
Group: Rebol/Flash dialect ... content related to Rebol/Flash dialect [web-public]
Pekr:
17-Mar-2008
mostly a menu, and texts ... but some texts are on multiple pages, 
while still in one SWF. There is something like 30 pages, so it might 
be easiest to do screenshots ....
Oldes:
31-Dec-2009
What do you mean "reference page"? I was not making many web pages 
using the dialect as making the game was very time consuming. But 
in the past I used it for example to make this site http://miss3.cz/
Oldes:
3-Feb-2012
I should recover my old RSWF pages as it's being popularised: http://www.flashrealtime.com/how-to-join-swf-files-air-ios/
james_nak:
3-Feb-2012
Oldes, very cool. And you should keep those rswf pages alive. They 
were good stuff.
Group: rebcode ... Rebcode discussion [web-public]
BrianH:
19-Nov-2005
It would probably be better to do case-sensitive compares anyway, 
as it would allow you to compare binaries. Character case needs code 
pages and such to work anyway when you have Unicode, or languages 
other than English.
Group: Tech News ... Interesting technology [web-public]
Henrik:
31-May-2007
I'm watching an interview with Steve Jobs and Bill Gates that was 
posted on http://d5.allthingsd.com/yesterday. Jobs makes an interesting 
note at how much better network applications perform than web2.0 
pages, in context with Google Maps on the iPhone. I had thought that 
it was in fact a web2.0 thing in the iPhone.
Sunanda:
12-Sep-2007
new google search parameter to return what pages are newly indexed 
[almost the same as new] on the site:

http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/useful-google-feature-better-date-search/
eg, for rebol.net
http://www.google.com/search?q=site:rebol.net&as_qdr=d7
Kaj:
13-Sep-2008
http://development.syllable.org/pages/index.htmlpoints to the ORCA 
status document
Pekr:
5-May-2009
I hope such an app is 1-3 pages max in VID 3.4 :-)
Group: !Cheyenne ... Discussions about the Cheyenne Web Server [web-public]
Maarten:
10-Jun-2007
I am thinking of RSP pages.
Graham:
21-Jun-2007
I'm thinking that maybe I should be using RSP to create javascript 
pages that fetch the data using async http ...
Chris:
21-Jun-2007
This is one area QM has sought to resolve.  It's likely it can be 
done with Cheyenne app methods?  Use Hijax -- build an RSP hierarchy:

<template>
  <portion />
</template>


Access %template.rsp when requesting a full page, and %portion.rsp 
when you only want inline content.  Use JS to hijack links to full 
pages and replace them with methods to access and display inline 
content.
Pekr:
5-Jul-2007
then started cheyenne. It runs ok, as it serves my pages ... but 
no luck with test.php
Dockimbel:
12-Jul-2007
Cheyenne release v0.9.16 beta. Download at http://softinnov.org/tmp/cheyenne-r0916.zip

Changelog :

v0.9.16 - 12/07/2007
	
	o Localization framework added to RSP. API overview :
	
		- #[text] in static parts of RSP pages will be translated.
		

  - new function: say "data" : translate a string! value in the current
		  language.
		  
		- session's new 'lang variable can set the current language.
		
		- new config file options to control default language and 
		  locales resources folder.
		

 o Decode-cgi rewrote from scratch. Cleaner and 2-3 times faster than 
 before.
	

 o RSP request params decoding rewrote. Now GET and POST parameters 
 are unified
	  in request/content.
	  
	o BugFix for encapping %misc/mime-types file.
	

 o File upload support redesigned. Now big files (user defined threshold) 
 are

   directly written to disk in temporary files, instead of being held 
   in memory.

   The temporary files are deleted once the request is completed. So 
   now

   Cheyenne supports files upload up to 2Gb (R2 port! limitation).
	  

 o CGI execution extended to any scripts (not just REBOL). If found, 
 the

   shebang line (#!) is honored (on all platforms). Several perl scripts
	  added in %www/ folder as demo.
	  

 o Module's 'on-started event now fired only once, when multiple HTTPd 
 instances
	  are listening on more than one port.
	  

 o New module : mod-extapp for launching and managing external applications.

   Only the start and shutdown actions are currently supported. Load 
   balancing
	  will be included in future.
	
	o FastCGI protocol reliability improved and some bugs fixed.
	
	o RSP-API documentation updated.
Graham:
10-Sep-2007
This means I have to change the database name in all the rsp pages 
of my app, whereas if the name were confined to the web app, I would 
not need to do so.
Robert:
12-Oct-2007
What's the best way to do dynamic pages with Cheyenne and Rebol? 
Does it has RSP or something like this build in?
Group: !CureCode ... web-based bugtracking tool [web-public]
Dockimbel:
27-Jul-2009
Thanks to the new CSS, the look is now consistent across Chrome / 
FF / IE7, but I gave up on trying to hack the CSS to make IE8 render 
pages as the others. The time spent in making all browser render 
the same way is quite insane.
Henrik:
30-Aug-2009
no, but no pages are working at all, so I can't log in.
Dockimbel:
30-Aug-2009
Did you removed the admin user creation from the install script? 
You need that admin user in order to create new projects and manage 
them (the bug you just hit is in a code branch that is evaluated 
only if a non-admin user try to access manager pages).
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