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Hi, I have a small problem playing an mp3 file 
I have so far
player: "/Applications/Vox.app/Contents/MacOS/Vox"
thissong: "/Users/Arnold/Music/A song.mp3" 
thatsong: "/Users/Arnold/Music/A-song.mp3"       
And then 
call reform [player thissong]  
call reform [player thatsong] 

Playing thissong will start the musicplayer, but no music was found 
and playing  thatsong starts the player and is being played without 
problem.

Because most of my mp3's and directories they are in have spaces 
in their names so starting to play them from REBOL gets hard this 
way.

I tried to-file thissong but this produces "%/......&20song.mp3" 
so it was not successful. (Allthough thatsong just played without 
a problem) :(
Any ideas please?

Another thing, I want to make an 'application' using REBOL that plays 
an mp3, an mp3 with a story for kids and I want to display the pictures 
from the book depending on maybe a timer(file) so the pictures are 
displayed acoording to the storyline. This also could be a helping 
aid for making presentations. 

I do not want to binary save my mp3 in the source of the application 
or in any other rebol-script so I just want to use the mp3 file and 
not convert it.

Furthermore I do not want an external app to be started unless it 
can be done under the hood and/or it can be controlled by my app 
because the presentation could be paused by the user. Any ideas where 
and how to start such script.

Plugging in the mouse (non-usb port) seems conflicting with mounting 
my usb mp3 player. Unplugging the mouse made my mp3 player disks 
visible again.Well it is not consequent in this. After another try 
it took me some time to mount it because it didn't show up. After 
mounting I plugged in the mouse again. For else I cannot copy files. 
It worked. System hangs up on me or doesn't respond copying the 20th 
mp3. Enough testing for today.

I managed to send pdfs and mp3 larger than that with no errors ... 
and I think zip files so that it would test integrity but never did 
any checksum testing

Carl has been talking for some time about integrating streaming protocols 
into Rebol (probably like h264, mpeg4, mp3, wmv, etc.).  Is that 
something that could be plugged into the existing codebase rather 
directly, or will it take a lot of changes to make it work?

has anyone used the lame-enc.dll for converting stuff to mp3 ?  http://www.fi.muni.cz/~qruzicka/Smid/man.htm.iso-8859-1

Lame ain't an MP3 encoder

That's not what it says at mp3dev.org : "LAME is an LGPL MP3 encoder."

I want a way to generate mp3 voice mail .. this does the mp3 encoding.

there's  win32 program out there called mpegrec.exe which records 
straight from mic or line in to mp3

uses lame as well for the mp3 encoding.

this is pretty cool .. using lame.exe and mpegrec.exe I can record 
voice to mp3 .. now to see if I can get it done using Rebol to control 
it all.

simple as :   mpegrec -o c:\temp\graham.mp3

mp3 :)

Anyone else use quintessential mp3 player?

What I am simply a bit scared about is missing the chance by doing 
the things right this time. I would really hate to see someone pushing 
Carl to include mp3 inside, while the oter guy will complain he/she 
wants ogg, and next one will require something from Microsoft (wmv?):-)

if you want mp3 then you need to write a plugin for it. but we're 
talking about all the reblets that need to save their data somewhere

I have never met with anything I could not handle. Gee, we are complaining 
about REBOL parser not being able to handle ANY format, while even 
lamers as me are being able to use 'parse in opposition to regexp? 
Why this possession? What is exact deal breaker? Isn't it a bit naive? 
Brian, really - what fishermen are you talking about? For anything 
more complicated than one-liner, you have to come up with script 
anyway. And if you store code into script, you can write few parse 
rules, no? Well, maybe it is me, who never uses load (I don't like 
the fact it mysteriosly does decoding of few things here or there 
- libraries, jpg, which is fixed in R3), but with REBOL string parsing, 
you can do many things. I don't even agree to Max opinion, that parse 
will let you down. Well, if you want to parse streamed mp3 binary 
content, maybe so, but for some general data format, specifically 
delimited? Come on :-)

today you enter a secretary office there is windows XP  every where 
you enter a publisher/graphist maker you have apple every where? 
As there is less publisher than secretary  this explain as a short 
cut why there is sutch difference. When you enter a astronom office 
you have sun Sparc every where. As you get less astronom than plublisher 
you understand the difference betwin Apple and Sun :). Some people 
needs simplicity of use others need fiability of use. Then you have 
the rounding industry those building the sourrounded technologies 
in all cases they need to sell a lot this explain for example why 
a comon SONY MP3 sevice came with drivers to plug it to a PC equiped 
with windows and why they not giving apps and drvers to handle it 
under linux and unix.

As every one (non ingeneer ) needs simple systems they adopt windows 
in majority more as Sony MP3 devices are designed to be used in the 
simpliest way this explain why people focus on windows this is part 
of it's actual success but this not means that windows is the best 
system this not means too that the other existing systems are not 
relevant :)

I just found a file that I can READ but not OPEN a port to. This 
bug can be seen on old and new versions of Core 
and View:
>> read %"/j/anton/mp3s/more/test-copy.mp3"

== {ID3^C^@^@^@^@^F^NTMED^@^@^@^D^@^@^@DIGTLEN^@^@^@^G^@^@^@472006TCON^@^@^@^E^@^@^@miscTRCK^@^@^@^B^@^@^@5TALB^@^@^@^\^@^@^@Psych
o...
>> port: open %"/j/anton/mp3s/more/test-copy.mp3"
** Access Error: Cannot open /j/anton/mp3s/more/test-copy.mp3
** Near: port: open %/j/anton/mp3s/more/test-copy.mp3
>> port: open/binary %"/j/anton/mp3s/more/test-copy.mp3"
** Access Error: Cannot open /j/anton/mp3s/more/test-copy.mp3
** Near: port: open/binary %/j/anton/mp3s/more/test-copy.mp3
>> read/binary %"/j/anton/mp3s/more/test-copy.mp3"
== #{
4944330300000000060E544D454400000004000000444947544C454E00000007
00000034373230303654434F4E000000050000006D6973635452434B0000...

Jaime, why not treat the marketing differently.  Instead of marketing 
as a wireless router, market as a wireless chat server, or mp3 server 
with router facilities ?

Yes to save resources.  For example, what if I just read an MP3 file 
into a word? I want to free that word so that it no longer is allocated 
to that data.

If you want to load more MP3s, it would be a good idea to reuse the 
same memory area. An example:

>> f: func [/local blk] [blk: []]   
>> a: f
== []
>> insert a 42
== []
>> a
== [42]
>> source f
f: func [/local blk][blk: [42]]
>> clear a
== []
>> source f
f: func [/local blk][blk: []]


You see, A and BLK inside F points to the same memory. Next time 
you call F, you can put some more stuff in BLK (read another MP3).

If you want to be able to completely remove BLK, I would do that 
using an object. Build the MP3 player as an object, instead of just 
a function. Makes sense?

You still have to set the MP3 data returned from your function to 
none to release the memory (making the garbage collector to work). 
I would handle this situation either by making a refinement to my 
function or (probably better) creating the whole thing as an object.

Using ALSO returns some data. If your code look like this:

mp3-data: load-mp3-function


and that load-mp3-function ends with an ALSO, setting the local var 
to none, you still have a full copy in mp3-data. Actually you end 
up having 2 copies for some time, until the garbage collector frees 
the local version. Later in your code, you need to set mp3-data to 
none to free to memory (which the garbage collector does). Now, is 
this how you use ALSO and why you need it?

load-mp3-data: func [file /local contents][
	contents: read/binary file
	; <- modify contents here
	also contents contents: none
]

data: load-mp3-data %song.mp3

In the load-mp3-data function above, a large binary series is loaded 
and contents set to refer to it. The ALSO line returns the binary 
series and unsets CONTENTS so that it no longer refers to the binary 
series. The usage code below the function definition takes the return 
value (the binary series) and sets DATA to it.

So effectively the variable referencing the binary series has been 
switched with another one.

If the contents var is not unset and then the load-mp3 function is 
not anymre called.

Then, the garbage collector can't free the serie because it stays 
handled by the local var contents.

call %/d/something with (parentheses).mp3

here's one %/d/music/Astor Piazzolla/Astor Piazzolla - Adios nonino %28live%29.mp3

yes!  compress/RLA  compress/ZIP  compress/GZIP  compress/JPEG   
 compress/MP3

tried mplayer and all I got was the vid/no sound-yet it does play 
a mp3 ?

50mb and includes.. 


XMMS (MP3, CD Music, and MPEG), FTP client, Dillo web browser, links 
web browser, FireFox, spreadsheet, Sylpheed email, spellcheck (US 
English), a word-processor (FLwriter), three editors (Beaver, Vim, 
and Nano [Pico clone]), graphics editing and viewing (Xpaint, and 
xzgv), Xpdf (PDF Viewer), emelFM (file manager), Naim (AIM, ICQ, 
IRC), VNCviwer, Rdesktop, SSH/SCP server and client, DHCP client, 
PPP, PPPoE (ADSL), a web server, calculator, generic and GhostScript 
printer support, NFS, Fluxbox window manager, games, system monitoring 
apps, a host of command line tools, USB support, and pcmcia support, 
some wireless support.

foreach url [

 http://brokenbeatassault.com/depot/files/BBA_MusicShow_Podcast_001_March_Safire.mp3
	http://dlsvr05.asus.com/pub/ASUS/vga/nVidia/nv16921_Win2KXP.zip
	http://debeveiligingsupdate.nl/audio/bevupd_0003.mp3

 http://audio.wnyc.org/radiolab_podcast/radiolab_podcast501choice.mp3

 http://ftp.iinet.net.au/pub/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/8.04.1/MD5SUMS

 http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/dan_gilbert_researches_happiness.html
	http://events.ccc.de/congress/2008/wiki/Streaming

 http://sites.romkids.org/virgill/albums/Bestof PC Demoscene/like a childbirth.mp3
	http://rockfactory.us/files/rebol_song.mp3
][
	port: open/binary/direct url
	print [mold port/locals/headers/Content-Length url]
	close port
]

Will... I want to make a private mp3 stream server to play music 
on a local network. So it must be solved on the server side... read 
only enough sound data from disk to play and distribute it to listeners. 
I have already the mp3 parser to get for example enough data to play 
during specified interval of time. Now it's just how to distribute 
it and don't send more data than is necessary  for the listeners.

In the same time it was serving MP3 from modified micro-http service 
using something like:
    on-received: func [data][
		write-client rejoin[
			{ICY 200 OK} crlf
			{icy-name: LocalRadio} crlf
			{icy-genre: whatever} crlf
			{icy-url: http://127.0.0.1:811} crlf
			{content-type: audio/mpeg} crlf
			{icy-pub: 1} crlf
			{icy-br: 128} crlf 
			crlf
		]
		write-client path-to-mp3-file
	        close-client
    ]

to share audio and video we need 3 things 1) the shoutcast server 
(configured properly but this not the most enoyant part)  www.shoutcast.com/ 
 2) the NSV Tools that is used to share video stream from the webcam 
(use the VP3 encoder for video) and from the  microphone   (MP3 Lame 
encoder)  3) client use winamp software to see and listen the intervention 
in the conference ;)

for a windows based OS  you can use Shoutcast to broadcast audio/video 
streaming and the NSV TOOLS doftware to set up the audiovideo formats 
for the acquisition from you webcam and audio consol. The point is 
that shoutcast audio / video quality is far better than Quicktime 
... higher resolution higher depth lesser bandwidth used (audio = 
mp3 video = null software video format)

some body must be wearing an mp3 recorder around their necks!!

Ahh.. seems no one took my suggestion to make mp3 recordings of the 
talks and upload them :(

making some things possible that are currently infeasable .... like 
mp3 playback from within Rebol.

about the hype around rebcode, give me 10 reasons why this *MUST* 
to be ,1°  i would like to build my mp3 encoder in rebol ;-)

What is better for video podcasting, MP3 or MP4?

MP3 = audio; MP4 = video.

It's a shame I can not watch the videos with my DVD player. I  just 
bought a cheap (40 euro) dvd player that plays zones 1/2 and MP4. 
I've copied the NerdTV MP4 interviews (see links) and have enjoyed 
quite a lot watching that on TV rather than the monitor ... but the 
devcon videos don't play (probably because of the MP4 profile and 
the audio not being MP3/WMA)

Use headphones with this  http://www.holophonic.ch/archivio/testaudio/Cereni- Holophonic.mp3

I really don't mind that tax in principle, but only if it works to 
compensate musicians, not beaurocrats. And includes the computers 
as well, or at least any device for which the MP3 patents have been 
paid.

face it, you're only got one pair of those sense organs, and it doesn't 
seem to be fair to be taxed twice if you own two mp3 players

show me, how I can point sqlite to %/C/!mp3/mp3-list.db

because - original aproach sounds much clearer - simply db: sqlite-open 
%/C/!mp3/my-mp3-list.db

instead of db: open sqlite://localhost//C/!mp3/my-mp3-list.db - looks 
terrible ...

Narrow field? Why do you consider them being narrow? Is Action Scrip 
somehow limited? And look into most mp3 players, their UI, their 
games, etc. - everything Flash based. The market for such device 
starts being crowded. We will see what impact will there be on Android 
and Symbian in the future ...

And I bought the iTouch as MP3-player while running...  figured might 
as well get some extra goodies. Now that I have it: it turns the 
world upside-down. Buying a little app for e2 over your wlan with 
to taps, it's tasteful.

yeah the continous stream is the MP3 streaming part :P

shoutcast server goal are to broacast through internet MP3
(used for web radio and web TV ...)

but I don't know what exactly do you need, if the text info which 
you get in the browser or the mp3 data

if you need the mp3, than just use for example:
system/schemes/http/user-agent: "Winamp"

and  got the stream mp3

they take a sample of the MP3 sent then they extract the metatag 
part to get the song and artists

the HTML way is cool ... the MP3 way hangs  i don't know how to get 
only 1 sample to wor with it

after the ICY info there is MP3 stream which can contain ID3 tags

for MP3 use:
system/schemes/http/user-agent: "Winamp"

ok in my opinion the metatag data stack retreived from the MP3 is 
 faster and more beautyfull way than parsing HTML data

in that  stack i'm supposed to get  mp3 >metatag>mp3

I know:) but you should parse it using some better way, if you want 
to also store the MP3

oldes i don't care the MP3 i can't decode it with rebol ....

Flash might move to RIA (but who's interested to do real apps in 
Flash?) or - many mp3 etc vendors are doing their UI using flash. 
As for html 5, we are still talking vapor, unless it is supported 
by most browsers, which are used by most ppl IE still has 62% of 
share, and IIRC CSS3 and HTML5 are going to be supported in IE9. 
How long do you think will it take to replace those 60% of IEs out 
there by IE9? Well ... I know what you are trying to say ... it is 
inevitable ... but ... not yet, not yet :-) .... this probably belongs 
to advocacy though ....

BrianH - I am fine with whatever crap windows require. I have my 
most needed stuff on C:, in !mp3, !REBOL, !Foto etc. dirs. I run 
as an admin, so I don't care ...

wishlist2: background music, mp3

I have MP3 playing from R3 console using FMOD extension... at this 
moment just a very first test:) Must go sleep unfortunately.

wish for R3 / Topaz / Red / World:

Add possibility to extend "read" and "load" to let them transparently 
load also custom file types (.tiff, .mp3 etc.)
Use something like:
system/mime: context [
	JPG: context [
		extensions: [%.jpg %.jpeg ...]
		header: #{JFIF}
		open: func [...]
		read: func [...]
		load: func [...]
		save: func [...]
		write: func [...]
		close: func [...]
	]
	...
]

There's no easy way to add an MP3 type yet, because there's no audio 
type concept in R3 yet. But .jpg is supported already.

If he ported that C++ code, it's bound to Windows. But yes, it could 
be done with cURL. Leaves the small matters of binding sound in SDL 
and MP3 decoding :-)

Cross-posting jocko's reply from RebelBB french forum: 

There are two steps in this DLL: 


- first send a request to the Google api, for instance : http://translate.google.com/translate_tts?tl=en&q=hello+world
Google returns an audio file : translate_tts.mp3


- second, automatically open this file and play it. I use a DirectXShow 
filter (windows only), directly able to render the url. In the case 
of Linux, cUrl could do the first step, and, for instance VLC the 
second