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I removed the browser IDE example from the list of apps on our Redsite, 
because it is crashed by #428

Still a bit early for a prime time, as we don't have yet proper errors 
handling. One thing that would be useful though, for anyone trying 
Red, would be to dig out Peter's extraction scripts from the repo 
(in /docs), update/enhance them if needed and make a nice CSS for 
displaying the resulting list of actions/natives/mezz. Anyone?

Jerry: no, these are not yet supported. You can see what is missing 
for full floats support here: 


https://github.com/dockimbel/Red/wiki/Floating-point-support-todo-list

I find that the way Rebol handles it is more a limitation than an 
help. When checking for local words, you need to keep in mind two 
lists: one for the local words to collect, one for the iteration 
words, to leave apart. I prefer one simple rule rather than two rules. 
Making a few more keystrokes to add those iteration words to /local 
list is easier for me, than wasting brain processing power to tell 
apart which words I should collect, which one I should not.


Moreover, if I want the iteration words to be defined in the function 
or global context, I can't in Rebol...Looks definitely more like 
a limitation than an help to me.

Gregg: only set-words are localized. What you saw in _function/collect-words 
is the the conversion of spec block elements to words for the ignore 
list. The collection of words from body block happens in collect-deep.

The dataype comparison matrix is on my todo list but I haven't found 
time to start on it yet.

HELP and WHAT are next on my list.

Kaj, I did a Google search on isNaN and cannot find a list of C libraries 
that don't support it (or that do).  Do you have any ideas on how 
to do this check?

AdrianS: Unfortunately, it won't work for me:

From their FAQ:
1.3 Does Everything search file contents?

No, "Everything" does not search file contents, only file and folder 
names.


I find that I search within file contents at least as much as for 
filenames.  It shouldn't be too hard to write a Rebol-based standalone 
exe that would do this.  I'll add it to my growing list of scripts 
to write.

If I do this in the console:


foreach word system/words [print [mold word tab mold type? get word]]

I get a long list of words, that end with this:
...
do-console      function!
red-prompt      unset!
mode    unset!
switch-mode     unset!
eval    unset!
code    unset!
result  unset!
cnt     unset!
mono    unset!
block   unset!
q       function!
red>>


Now, if I paste a bunch of code in the console and do it again, the 
newly added words all come back as type datatype!.  e.g.
...
block   unset!
q       function!
Title   datatype!
Author  datatype!
File    datatype!
Tabs    datatype!
any-function?   datatype!
...

Red I/O full support is next on my list after the above mentioned 
tasks will be completed.

@PeterWood Thank you again Peter! 

Peter answered a question on the Red mailing list (all subscribe!) 
about me calling a function in Red like f(10) where it should have 
been f 10 and I didnot get this. The (10) part was being processed 
as a paren! type so the value was calculated before giving to the 
function f as input.

Looking at http://www.red-lang.org/p/contributions.htmlit seems 
to me, that Red has more bindings, than for R2 + R3 combined :-) 
Maybe just an impression, as I miss such a conscise list on rebol.com 
website ....

There is as I read this a different issue. Dock want Red to be as 
complete as posible, Kaj wants it to officially useable. Kaj really 
needs UTF-8 (and or Latin-1) character support, for getting this, 
I guess this has to do with the Syllable operating system amongst 
others.

I would like Red to support time and random functions as natives 
and (Gregg is one of your mezz funcs REJOIN ? I want that too) be 
able to connect to a MySQL database so I can dump PHP for some webdevelopment.

Besdies that we all love to see a VID (like) solution for display 
and creating apps. 

We have to be patient agreed 100% amongst everybody? Where the roadmap 
mentions all things to progress Red, above things are not on that 
list. I want Red to have enough to make it useable in production 
and after that expand, imho that is the way to really attrackt more 
funding/enthousiast programmers and make sure current support does 
not fade/ loose interest.

Refinements: these are a matter of cost vs added value. It costs 
significantly to add refinements support to routines and #call, and 
the added value is small. So, it is possible to add them, but it 
falls in the "nice to have" feature list, not "must to have", so 
they are very low priority.

I have consolidated the current Red/System V2 wish list  on the Github 
wiki - https://github.com/dockimbel/Red/wiki/Red-System-v2-Wish-List

Thanks Peter. Could you please add a message like "Wish moved to 
v2 wish list on wiki" to each related tickets and close them?

Quite extensive list. If there are no show-stoppers, I would proceed 
with Red first, e.g. getting us onto IOS, Android, bindings to native 
APIs, I/O, parse, etc. :-)

Nice list, Peter

Arnold: I haven't processed the list yet.

where does I/O appear in the list of priorities and timetable?

I/O support for Red is very high on the Red todo list  - basic I/O 
support is essential for Nenad for Nenad to write Red/System V2 (which 
itself is essential for "production ready" Red.

I believe that object! datatype and an improved 'LOAD function are 
pre-cursors to I/O in Red and the reason that i/O isn't top of the 
priority list. (Of ocurse, I may be wrong)

This really is a mega-wish list. It is very possible that adds far 
too much bulk to Red/System to be added in the language.


At least the list could be the basis for the spec for a Red/System 
lib to provide much of the functionality.

Just click on [Pages] menu to list all pages from the wiki.

I just looked up an example of how to e.g. obtain contact list, the 
official API way, not via some low level direct SQLite hacks. Found 
following link, since Android 2.0, there is ContactsContract class 
for that. But - those examples are more complex, e.g. obtaining cursor 
to DB and looping via returend list after sending a query.


As to understand our bridge - what we are allowed is mainly to wrap 
objects/classes and their methods. I mean - get them assigned to 
Red words. Then we have ability to invoke their methods. I wonder 
though, how one wraps such example as in the following link: 


http://www.higherpass.com/Android/Tutorials/Working-With-Android-Contacts/


Another question - would it be possible to create JAVA function on 
Red side, wrapping the sourcecode? Think inlining of ASM in C, or 
inlining of R/S code in Red?

So from that page, I get to https://github.com/mxcl/homebrew/tree/master/Library/Formula

a long list of stuff. Down there, I see gtk+.rb, click it, and I 
get to a page, which seems to be some description (or recipe, as 
you mentioned). Then what?

I don't remember which, but I think there are old computer systems 
that list available commands with WHAT

Arnold, isn't that what HELP (or the ? short) is used for? WHAT seems 
to "Prints a list of globally-defined functions.".

Yes, there is :-) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_programming_languages

Pekr, it is just up to you for Red to be in that list as we already 
have a wikipedia page for Red. ;-)

Red is now part of list of programming languages - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_programming_languages

There allready is a Red-playlist: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL595BBBBC4CD91581

I mean .. I think Bo mentioned that Carl had some questions .. .list 
somewhere...

I've added a few more wishes to the Red/System V2.0 wish list. If 
you have any comments please let me know.


Please remember these are wishes for Nenad to consider, not firm 
proposals.

Good to see nothing is rejected yet ;)

For completeness I add the link to the wish list, it is here https://github.com/dockimbel/Red/wiki/Red-System-v2-Wish-List

If register variables do improve performance I was going to add register 
variables to the Red/System V2 wish list.

I was going to add register variables to the Red/System V2 wish list.


This is not required as one of the first change I have in mind for 
Red/System 2.0 is adding a good registers allocation method to backend 
code emitters.

most probbly I will do so anyway ;-) Will the demo be hello world 
example, or more usefull one, e.g. getting a contact list item? :-)

Unsined integers is on the wish-list for Red/System v2 https://github.com/dockimbel/Red/wiki/Red-System-v2-Wish-List
point 29

Yes I understand now. Is it possible to have a page linking to all 
the Red repositories? 

Alternative is have a special Red-info group with all of the links 
to various Red sites. The repositories, Issue list, Wish list etc 
etc.

And there's a complete list of all my repositories in my download.r 
script, which you can use to download and update them all in one 
go:

(A correct entry for /etc/apt/sources.list, for reference.)

I'll check the sources.list file in 11.04 once I finish installing 
12.04.

Synaptic wasn't updating the sources.list file correctly, changing 
it manually seems to have fix it. At least, I can now install a JDK 
package.

Especially what good is the #system-global for then? Ah like #system 
in R/S documentation chapter 17
Also from this:

It will be possible to export some Red/System functions to be callable 
from the Red language layer. The method for such export hasn't been 
decided yet. Among possible options, it can be:

A special attribute 
in header that will list the functions to export
A function's attribute 
in the specification block
A compiler directive


I can taste that the integration is just around the corner. But which 
one? :)

Watching your video Arnold, great work!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qx-4K8F3VMM&list=PLr1rbtkaZDGDKtExuz8Q0nFDtDtUyyOHz

Ah, second video already online:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YPbEtG8mf0&list=PLr1rbtkaZDGDKtExuz8Q0nFDtDtUyyOHz

Yes, it needs to for appending. It's not a linked list of strings 
or something like that

BTW, Red is not present on Wikipedia list of programming languages.

BTW, Red is not present on Wikipedia list of programming languages.

Red - well, what list are you talking about? I checked http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_programming_languages
and it is present there ....

I know list of enhancements for R/S 2.0 exists, yet I don't expect 
it having more advanced series handling ...

Arnold, it is possible to extract such list from this script:

http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/Red-test/artifact/9aa61f0739992c5f6374f25cbc390dac9e34bcd2

directories under red.esperconsultancy.nl are according to the script 
download.r:

test common C-library cURL ZeroMQ-binding REBOL-3 Java SQLite SDL 
OpenGL GLib GTK GTK-WebKit OSM-GPS-Map GTK-Champlain 6502

I copied my list from my browser address field history. Should have 
noticed GLib (first I had tried GLIB and found nothing) was the one 
you asked for.

Kaj, I already several times tried to look for something, not being 
succesfull. I always need to look up for certain link. Why your main 
domain - http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/, displays just "not found"? 
Imo there should be some central page, displaying the list of your 
projects .... would really simplify the move between fossil mess 
...

here is a tool I built which allows one to set or remove the "always 
on top" flag of any opened window, dynamically.


http://www.pointillistic.com/open-REBOL/moa/files/window-controler.exe


when you start the app, it lists all windows, using both exe and 
window title, depending on what is viable for that window.  if you 
click on the title, that window becomes always on top (immediately), 
and if you press on the X besides it, it loose that flag. 


just close and re-open to update the window list... simple and stupid, 
but reallly useful.

The core-tests test framework available at
 
https://github.com/rebolsource/rebol-test

has been significantly revamped recently. Main changes:

* new core-tests added

* core-tests reordered so that all "chapters" are contiguous now

* the run-recover.r script is the way how to run the tests now

* the log-diff.r script can be used to compare differnt log files


* the log-filter.r script can be used to obtain just the list of 
failed tests


* the http://www.rebol.org/art-display-article.r?article=n28vxdocumentation 
article rewritten


Please, report any improvement proposals to me.

I updated our Redsite for the latest Red features, specifically runtime 
function creation in the interpreter (which executes the Redpages):

http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/index.red

I added a simple IDE example to the list of apps:

http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/examples/IDE.red


It's a cross between the standalone GTK-IDE example and Try REBOL; 
basically Try Red written in Red itself. There are two main areas: 
one for editing your code and one for showing the result. Since it 
runs on your computer, unlike Try REBOL, it keeps state between execution 
of code snippets.


To browse the site and the apps you need the latest binary version 
of the GTK-browser. See above.

This one's getting moved to the top of the list.

@Arnold What about  http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL595BBBBC4CD91581
?

In any case, you might find my attempts at a CMake-based build useful, 
as I explicitly list the `make prep` scripts and their dependencies 
there:

https://github.com/earl/r3/blob/wip-cmake/CMakeLists.txt#L109

1. Saphirion public source works that way, I didn't change anything. 
So if you have some trick to make it better, your are welcome to 
contribute. I use MinGW to compile it.


2. "official" R3 has no graphic support, R3B is the public Saphirion, 
so some investigation is needed.


3.  Thak you, but I never found a R3 editor, I don't know of what 
are you writing. Where is R3 editor?


3.1 I'm a total beginner and too much documentation is missing. I 
just copied the "on-key" area action. I would strongly appreciate 
if you send me your version.

3.2 TO-DO list


3.3 I added F5 shortcut to execute code, but I have trouble to add 
keys combinations. How to control CTRL+S for example? There is anymore 
the old event/control and event/shift.

I'll never blame R3GUI anymore.

I think Gabriele mentioned this many years ago on the mailing list

What's the proper (fast) way to do this?

    REBOL [title: "Anagram List"]
    a: copy []
    mix: func [str prev] [   
        repeat i length? str [
            picked: pick str i
            rest: head remove at copy str i
            append a rejoin [prev picked rest]
            mix rest join prev picked
        ]
    ]
    mix input: ask "Text:  " ""
    editor unique a

REBOL [title: "Anagram List"]


a:[]m: func[s p][repeat i length? s[append a rejoin[p k: s/:i r: 
head remove at copy s i]m r join p k]]m ask""""editor unique a probe 
length? a


a:[]m: func[s /local i][if 1 = i: length? s[append a copy head s 
exit]loop i[append s s/1 m next remove s]]m ask""editor a probe length? 
a

halt

So here is my code that is giving me some trouble:

file-list:	[]

read-dir:	func	[
	dir	[file!	]
	] [
	foreach file read dir [
		file: either dir = %./ [file] [dir/:file]
		append file-list file
		if dir? file [
			read-dir file
	]	]	]

inp-dir: request-dir/path	what-dir 

unless inp-dir [ask	">>> No directory selected, cannot proceed  (Enter)" 
 quit ]
cd :inp-dir


read-dir inp-dir		; <-- does not work as expected, must use cd and 
what-dir instead
;read-dir what-dir
new-line/all file-list on
print mold file-list

MaxV - that's an old song - Altme will be used by those, who want 
to use it, easy as that, no? Yes, public forum should be available, 
but please let's ppl use what they like or are used to. Some of us 
simply prefer IM nature, so we will either use Altme or IRC. That 
does not mean, that we will not participate in a forum, or mailing 
list. I can bet, that if ML was still active, many of us here would 
contribute. I quite miss ML a bit :-)

btw, andreas any plans for a tokyo/kyoto extension? if so, I could 
strike this from my todo list otherwise I would start after posix. 
(asking just to avoid double work)

why not just build a list and store them as a continuously growing 
setup on rebol.org?

Well, my gripes were with the architecture a bit - all those functions 
with replicated names - do-servise, open-service, close-service. 
IIRC, old IOS used rsp-* functions, it was easy to list in help, 
and it used even rsp:// port scheme IIRC. Other thing I did not like 
much was, that the code seems to be plain pure parse code, but surely 
if the need is there, it could be abstracted. Carl admitted, that 
he would somehow change the design, no specific things I remember 
about his thoughts though ...

thanks, have that one in the candidates list as well

I've always thought of QUERY as requesting metadata. READ is for 
content. If you, say, READ a directory (which I suppose I have no 
idea if it's still the way it works (tm)) to get all the files in 
that directory -- why would you use a different keyword to get a 
filtered list of, say files beginning with 'a'?

So there's no short list (i.e. not something that goes into the kind 
of detail Bindology covers) of documented changes? In the meantime 
I asked this on StackOverflow:

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14818324/is-there-a-summary-of-the-differences-in-binding-behaviour-between-rebol-2-and-3

Answered. There's still no short list - it had to be a long answer 
:)

yes, the problem is MINGW is using own 'custom' version of MAKE called 
"mingw32-make.exe" which doesn't behave well on the R3 makefile (at 
least from my experience).
So my Windows setup is:
-I installed CodeBlocks with MINGW support

-then I installed MSYS and extracted only 'necessary' files from 
MSYS/bin folder and put it into CodeBlocks\msys\bin\ folder
-then I deleted the MSYS instalation to not have bloat on my disk

-I set paths to CodeBlocks\MinGW\bin CodeBlocks\msys\bin in the WIndows 
console

-from now I can  just type MAKE ALL in the CMD console and R3 builds 
fine


Just in case here is the list of "necessary" MSYS/bin files I extracted 
(around 3MB of data):

cp.exe
make.exe
mkdir.exe
msys-1.0.dll
msys-iconv-2.dll
msys-intl-8.dll
msys-regex-1.dll
msys-termcap-0.dll
rm.exe
rmdir.exe
sh.exe

Ladislav: thanks, forgot to list that. And it's at least a place 
where we can add it right away.

ZIP support would be great. I've wanted it for a long time, but want 
more than just a "compress this value" function. i.e. it needs to 
work like a port or have an interface that lets us navigate, list, 
etc.

FOR has too many bugs in R2 for me to even want to list them all. 
Is this property something you mind about?

.git/info/exclude is a per-repository ignore list.

Oh good stuff -- the exclude list doesn't

I think that something as powerful as yours, but maybe a little friendlier 
for the newbies, and maybe with some REWORD-style thoroughness, might 
work. I think that we need to go beyond the old style of general 
loop though - we're competing against languages with list comprehensions, 
not just C-like languages :)

But CFOR can do list comprehensions easily, I do not see any problem 
with that

Not easy and flexible enough. You proved that we can do this already 
with the two-line implementation, but it doesn't have the syntactic 
sugar that the list comprehension fans need. So we might want to 
rethink the API but keep the power. Sometimes I think you're too 
smart for dialect design, Ladislav :)

Just as another perspective: COLLECT + FOREACH is a powerful, easy, 
and flexible list comprehension-like alternative.

1) I want less arguments than FOR has as Fork required - done

2) I want to specify the comparison used, not just in case when iterating 
over decimals - done

3) I want to specify as many "cycle variables" as necessary like 
Bo demanded - done

4) I want to specify more complex incrementation rule as Bo demanded 
- done
5) I can use COLLECT with CFOR

- does this list look like something not worth considering?

Ladislav, that's a feature list, not a dialect. It's a great feature 
list, and when we're building the dialect we should take all of that 
into account. But what you suggest in CFOR is not much prettier than 
FOR, and is almost as ugly as C's for loop. It's powerful, but not 
something we can point to and say "Look at how powerful we are!" 
to people who don't understand that surface stuff doesn't matter 
when you're talking about power. Imagine people who haven't heard 
of big-O notation or Turing completeness, but have used Python or 
Ruby. Especially Ruby because of how pretty it is but how much it 
sucks beneath the surface.

Ladislav, that's a feature list, not a dialect.

 - sure, feature list is not a dialect. CFOR is a dialect, though, 
 exactly like there is an object specification dialect or function 
 specification dialect. The fact that you do not see it is a dialect 
 does not matter at all

Hmm, to my big surprise I found my script in the list. But, after 
checking, FOR appeared really just in the COMMENT.

Apart from Unicode, we have no comparison over REBOL2 for new and 
better feature which could motivate the programmer.
 - wrong again, you surely heard about:
- essentially all cycles being natives in R3
- money implemented as a "truly decimal" format

- functions implemented differently to be compatible with multithreading, 
etc.
- closures implemented natively
- Parse improved significantly
- R3GUI improved
- new modules feature
- I do not even have the time to list all...

Could you please complete the list of changes in REBOL3 than REBOL2 
? Your is very valuable information.

Could you please complete the list of changes in REBOL3

 - that is a problem: I do not think such a list can be made "complete". 
 Some changes actually are "code cleanup", e.g. Also, there is a time 
 problem: I would have to browse R3 Chat, CureCode, AltMe, DocBase, 
 Carl's blog, Carl's R3 doc, GitHub, whatnot to do it. Why do you 
 think I am the one who has got the time to do it?

R3 extension will open the door to many usefull extensions now. We 
should collect the current status of existing extensions and of course
new ones we like to see. 
Quick check on current extensions (lib based) :
cURL, ZMQ, ODBC, FMOD, IMagick...


Another area is what is the best practice to create and maintain 
embedded extensions, how to integrate a dynamic built for this how 
to organize the source tree.

Currently I am working on a embedded cgi extension as a testcase, 
this will lead also into questions like: mezz or native, embedded 
or lib?

Extensions on my list:
CGI, JSON, POSIX, PCRE and some math libs.

Great, will setup a page the next days, to list the current extensions 
with description/download link to get a better overview.

Just running the first embedded POSIX prototype here with a bunch 
of usefull functions like pid handling, fork, nanosleep, popen, execve, 
sig, pipe etc.

With HRD comes higher performant GPUs but I'm not sure how CPU scales. 
Look at Adobe, they are almost dropping support for classic display 
list (rendered on CPU) and forcing everybody to use their Stage3D 
which uses GPU. It's not easy move as there is almost no tooling 
yet, but it's a must. CPU is not able to process so many pixels with 
the new screens (with high frame rate). I don't say we should drop 
AGG support, just that there must come GPU support using OpenGL/DirectX 
and let the AGG to do high quality rendering of assets.

I toyed with the idea of writing a C-based dll that could take all 
the information for rendering an entire data structure from R2 so 
R2 would only have to make one method call to a dll per frame instead 
of thousands, but couldn't get enough higher priority items off my 
list to get started on it.

This is a periodic posting of community links along with activity 
levels for discussion dedicated to Rebol and Rebol-like languages. 
The intent is to bring a dispersed community together by providing 
the current list of places where the community gathers along with 
reasonably accurate activity indicators for each place. This list 
will be posted in each location weekly or bi-weekly so that anyone 
dropping by will not have to look far in order to learn where else 
things are happening.


Currently the activity stats are gathered manually and postings are 
also not automated. This will hopefully change as the requisite scripts 
to scrape and post automatically are developed. This updated list 
will eventually be available at http://rebol.comas the site is cleaned 
up post Rebol open sourcing. 


# Chats

## R3 Chat

This is the primary forum for Rebol 3.0. It runs from any Rebol console 
in a text mode, but a GUI version is planned.
- Run R3, type chat and follow the instructions (all platforms.)

- Type "help" for more information or visit R3 DevBase Chat Forum 
(http://www.rebol.com/r3/devbase/index.html).

- To view public messages from any web browser go to RebDev mobile/phone 
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## AltME Worlds

A private instant messaging system where rebolers hang out 24/7. 
The current world dedicated to Rebol and Rebol-like language discussion 
is called REBOL4
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- connect to the 'rebol-gate' world with user/pass, guest/guest
- request account on REBOL4 world in the REBOL4 request group

Web archives of public groups, first to last in the most active world, 
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The only mailing list active is the f8bk one?

not sure - thought I remembered that the lists are defunct now. The 
Facebook spot is just a group - is there a mailing list somewhere 
there as well?

what is "f8bk"? You mean facebook? Fb is not a mailing list, I think. 
The

https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!forum/rebol

is