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Group: #Boron ... Open Source REBOL Clone [web-public] | ||
Kaj: 28-Feb-2011 | I don't know how that works on OS X. I only know that it just works on other Unixy systems such as Linux and Syllable | |
Kaj: 11-Dec-2011 | They should probably also stop using Chrome, Safari, OpenOffice, GCC, Linux and the like | |
Kaj: 11-Dec-2011 | All the ones I mentioned are LGPL and GCC and Linux are even worse: GPL. So if you don't want to use Boron because it's LGPL, you can't use all that other software, either | |
BrianH: 11-Dec-2011 | Not really. The main way that I learn a programming platform is to view the source, though on platforms where the source is not available (as for proprietary platforms like Delphi) or too complex to be of use (C++ compilers, office suites, most operating systems) then I try to go by the docs and experimentation. If I want to contribute, I need to see the source. However, if I learn anything by looking at the source, I have to be careful about how I apply that knowledge elsewhere if I might violate a license by doing so. So I use Linux, Java, OpenOffice and GCC like they are black boxes with no sources available, only because they are useful enough to be worth using without really learning from them. I wish I could contribute to Boron, but it might interfere with my ability to contribute to REBOL and Red. And I already have a good enough semi-black box in R3. | |
GiuseppeC: 15-Dec-2011 | Hi, I am interested into building an maintaining documentation for those programming languages based on REBOL. It would be nice to have a DOCBASE for them. What I search is: - Someone ABLE to SETUP the Linux and the Wiki Software - Someone which would share with me the cost of hosting. Do you like the idea ? Write me at [giuseppe-:-chillemi-:-eu] | |
Group: Core ... Discuss core issues [web-public] | ||
Maxim: 9-Feb-2012 | it may be higher on linux, I've never tested it. | |
Group: World ... For discussion of World language [web-public] | ||
Geomol: 6-Dec-2011 | Because I had no experience with LLVM, because I started World dev. on older MacBook, because LLVM was many MB download, because I wasn't sure, I could get LLVM on Windows and Linux easily. | |
GiuseppeC: 9-Dec-2011 | Now 3 years have passed since then and no upgrade took place. I am still with the same idea: I believe that documentation and communication is everything. If someone has the willingnes to setup a linux system with the proper wiki software I am ready to DONATE MONEY for hosting. | |
Geomol: 9-Dec-2011 | Disadvantages: me loosing focus and loosing time, when having to answer all kinds of questions and approve new developments. The horror of World being fragmented to 100 versions, where none of them are compatible. You wouldn't like that! I make sure, that doesn't happen. You need surplus of time and resources to open source things like this, if you wanna be sure, it doesn't run off rails. Look at how many ways, you can do any single thing in Linux. It's way too fragmented in most areas. | |
Kaj: 9-Dec-2011 | It's actually a lot like Linux. Every distro has something you need, but none of them has everything you need. If I want to build the Russian Syllable website, I can only use R3. If I need system integration and speed, I can only use Red. If I need to write web apps, only Topaz targets that. If I need open source, I can only use half of them. If I need dynamic binding, I can only use the interpreters. If I need infix operators, I can't use Boron, although I could use its predecessor. Etcetera ad nauseum | |
GiuseppeC: 15-Dec-2011 | Hi, I am interested into building an maintaining documentation for those programming languages based on REBOL. It would be nice to have a DOCBASE for them. What I search is: - Someone ABLE to SETUP the Linux and the Wiki Software - Someone which would share with me the cost of hosting. Do you like the idea ? Write me at [giuseppe-:-chillemi-:-eu] | |
Geomol: 15-Dec-2011 | There seem to be a problem with routines returning a handle. A library like MagickWand (part of ImageMagick) works this way. I'm not able to test it with MagickWand, as I'm not able to load that library for different reasons, and I don't wanna use too much time on it. So I'm after another library, that has a routine, which returns a handle, so I can test. A library easily to get for OS X, Linux and Windows would be nice. Any suggestions? | |
Geomol: 15-Dec-2011 | I was able to load MagickWand under Linux, and it seems to work with uint32 datatypes to hold the handle (a C pointer). But it doens't work so well when using the handle! datatype for that. It would be nice, if it worked, I guess. It's probably some type casting problem. | |
Geomol: 20-Dec-2011 | About copying from a port, I get a zero, if the port is closed, but just under OS X and Linux. Windows version seems to hang in that situation. Networking code is open source, and you're welcome to suggest changes. I consider using a lib for networking instead of coding it all by hand. | |
BrianH: 22-Dec-2011 | Andreas wrote this earlier, in response to your question about this: Is there a way to figure out, what directory a command launches from, which will work across platforms? Yes and no. There are platform-specific ways. This gist of it: - Linux: readlink("/proc/self/exe") - OSX: _NSGetExecutablePath - Win32: GetModuleFileNameW (We recently discussed this issue in relation to R3 as well.) | |
Geomol: 3-Jan-2012 | Under OS X, I get an empty binary, which is expected behaviour. Under WinXP, the process hangs here. The OS X and Linux version of World use standard BSD networking, the Windows version use MS networking, where an init is needed. You're welcome to suggest changes to the host specific sources. At this stage, I won't use a lot of time on Windows specific sources, as I don't use that platform very much. I consider using cURL for networking, as that could give a lot of features fast. If I find, it adds too much to the overall size of World, it could be cut along the way by moving features from cURL to World sources. |
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