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ISO C 99

Being written in REBOL/View, ALTME encodes characters in the Windows 
codepage under Windows, MacRoman under OS X and UTF-8 (I think, it 
may be ISO-8859-1) under Linux. So if you use any character  other 
than standard ASCII characters, it will appear differently on differnet 
systems.

Andreas, yes for ISO images :)

I use my own functions, returns always in ISO format, YYYY-MM-DD 
HH:NN:SS


padz: func ["Pad to right with zero." s n [integer!] /left /with 
c [char! string!]] [

    head insert/dup either left [tail form s] [form s] first form either 
    with [c] [#"0"] n - length? form s
]

format-date: func [d [date!]] [

 ajoin [d/date/year "-" padz d/date/month 2 "-" padz d/date/day 2 
 either d/time [ajoin [" " padz d/time/hour 2 ":" padz d/time/minute 
 2 ":" padz to-integer d/time/second 2]] [""]]
]

Arnold: I believe that Rebol/View uses Windows Codepages under Windows, 
MacRoman on OS X and ISO-8859-1 on  Linux. Sadly this means it only 
really supports true ASCII characterrs cross platform unless you 
manage encoding your self.

and an iso along with anothe couple of files - .mf, .ovf

An ISO and a VMDK? That sounds wrong. Is the installation CD still 
in that ISO?

Is there anything in R3 to deal with UTF-16 text (file) ?

I have to modify Windows File in UTF-16 with BOM of #{FFFE}. There 
were previously in ISO, but no more :-(

has anyone used the lame-enc.dll for converting stuff to mp3 ?  http://www.fi.muni.cz/~qruzicka/Smid/man.htm.iso-8859-1

Terry, for want of a better way to handle this -- if you add the 
'accept-charset' attribute to the <form> tag, it will encode the 
way you want it:
accept-charset="windows-1252,iso-8859-1"

If it is an unencrypted DVD, try to make an ISO, then mount it with 
Clonedrive. From there on, I tend to use Nero and encode to MPEG-4 
- greatly reduces size and is almost universal, especially on mobile 
devices. Quicktime also support MPEG-4

REBOL broadly follows the ISO-8601 date format (though not with the 
strict yyyymmdd format): years are 4 digit, positive numbers only. 
ISO 8601 is not designed for acheology or astronomy.

True astronomocal julian dates of course change day at midday not 
midnight -- so be really sure you want to use them.

REBOL.org has a couple ISO date formatting funcs, though I think 
a lot of us roll our own, sometimes ad hoc. It depends, too, on how 
flexible--or accepting of various inputs--you want it to be.

as-utc: func [date] [
    if all [date/zone  0:00 <> date/zone] [
        date: add date negate date/zone
    ]
    date/zone: none
    if none? date/time [date/time: 0:0:0]
    date
]

to-ISO8601-date: func [
    "Converts a date! value to an ISO 8601 format string."
    date [date!] "The date to format"

    /T           {Use T to delimit time value, rather than a space}
    /no-zone     "Don't include the timezone"
    /local pad z
][
    pad: func [val /to len] [
        val: form val
        head insert/dup val #"0" ((any [len 2]) - length? val)
    ]

    rejoin [
        pad/to date/year 4 "-" pad date/month "-" pad date/day
        either T ["T"] [" "]

        either none? t: date/time ["00:00:00Z"] [   ;<< reusing 'T here!
            rejoin [

                pad t/hour ":" pad t/minute ":" pad round t/second
                either no-zone [""] [

                    either 0:00 = z: date/zone ["Z"] [  ;<< setting 'z here!
                        rejoin [
                            pick ["+" "-"] z/hour > 0
                            pad abs z/hour pad abs z/minute
                        ]
                    ]
                ]
            ]
        ]
    ]
]

I have one which converts iso-8859-1 to html and escapes characters 
where necessary.

Graham: you can find such function in Cheyenne sources in %UniServe/libs/html.r. 
It supports iso-8859-1 entities.

http://www.openldap.org/lists/openldap-devel/200304/msg00123.html


Anyone made a REBOL version of this? It's a UTF-8 <-> ISO-8859-1 
converter in C.

In forming iso-8601 dates , you need to add the sign of the time 
zone.

Would you believe that 

pick [ "+" "-" ] positive? now/zone

is 4x faster than this

either (1 = (sign? now/zone)) ["+"] ["-"]

>> str-enc-utils/iso-8859-15-to-utf-8 "aø"
== "" ; bad
>> str-enc-utils/iso-8859-15-to-utf-8 "ø"
== "ø" ; good
>> str-enc-utils/iso-8859-1-to-utf-8 "aø" ; hangs

It seems there are more bugs in the string conversion utilities. 
the problem also exists when converting from UFT8 to ISO-8859-1.

Results of a tiny bit of debugging on the ascii chars problem:
-- problem seems to be at the input stage:

     -- if you have exended ascii characters (top bit set, like the 1/4 
     used in the script) what we get from the webserver is bad (extra, 
     unexpected extended ascii chars)

    -- only download is (visibly) affected, although the extra extended 
    ascii chars are present in the text streams

     -- though there is some REBOL mezz code (decode-cgi) that may be 
     doing something I do not understand

    -- I can replicate the problem with both Apache and Xitami which 
    suggests the problem may be in REBOL rather than a given server.


-- the quick fix would be to add accept-charset="ISO-8859-1" to the 
<form ....> or <textarea ....>

    -- but that stops all extended ascii, including the ones we want. 
    So we won't do that.

-- the slower fix has yet to emerge from the available options.

there is a specific charset for western -iso, which ensure the extra 
127 bytes are correct.


<meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1">

I think the root of the problem is that when the Library system was 
first written, no account was taken of character encoding. As a result, 
not only is the data encoded as it was when originally submitted 
but the method of encoding is not even known.


Whatever charset is specified in the http header is not going to 
be correct for all scripts and messages. Using charset=utf8 seems 
to cause the least problems. Though for example, it will cause many 
ISO-8859-1 "high bit" characters to be incorrectly displayed.

Re. ISO-8859-1 - the most obvious problem is the limitation - 256 
chars vs. UCS-1+

Thanks everyone.

I think our first step is to add a warning to any download for scripts 
that contain UTF-8 chars.

So, for that I need a function:

     utf-8?: func [data [string!] [ ...]   ; returns true or false [and 
     perhaps "not sure" in ambiguous cases]

I've done the easy part :-)
Can anyone help with the difficult "..." part ?


It is not as simple as just looking for ASCII > 128 .... some high 
ASCII is acceptable as part of, say, ISO 8859-1

Although, only of dates that are in one of the ISO formats.

This adds leading zeroes to MM or DD -- you could use similar logic:

http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/view-script.r?script=to-iso-8601-date.r

Hi all -- I didn't mean to cause additional entries to other libraries 
-- just tried to format it in my own routine.  But since there is 
interest, I double checked the official IBM SQL reference manual 
for timestamps.

So for the record and for your information:


Although there are many many different forms (Japanese, Europe etc), 
I only focused on two elements, the ANSI  ISO timestamp, and IBM 
SQL timestamp standard.  So in the IBM book "DB2 UDB for iSeries 
SQL Reference V5R370" under "Data Types, Datetime values, table 10 
page 70":

_________________________________________________________________________________________________

Table 10. Formats for String Representations of Timestamps
Format Name			Time Format						Example

ANSI/ISO SQL standard	TIMESTAMP ’yyyy-mm-dd hh:mm:ss.nnnnnn’	TIMESTAMP 
’1990-03-02 08:30:00.010000’

IBM SQL			’yyyy-mm-dd-hh.mm.ss.nnnnnn’			’1990-03-02-08.30.00.010000’
14–character form		’yyyymmddhhmmss’					’19900302083000’

_________________________________________________________________________________________________


For the record, I think I confused the two types.  Notice the embedded 
space between the date and time as well as : separators for ANSI/ISO, 
while the IBM SQL standard contains it all (no embedded space) and 
uses periods to separate the time elements, which I will easily fix 
in my version. -- You may wish to do the same for any new form of 
date you have.

From the liitle time I've spent looking at the rebol.org system in 
respect of converting it to R3, the code changes required seem to 
be very small (I've only looked at the cgi and core code, no View 
or VID).


The biggest problem would seem to be the  need to change the source 
code to UTF-8. MUch of the rebol.org code is pretty old and was written 
without attention to string encoding. The newer code is mainly ISO-8859-1 
"aware" and seems to be ISO-8859-1encoded. Some of the Rebol.org 
code won't load in R3 because it contains invalid UTF-8 characters. 
Changing the source encoding is trivial but with that comes the need 
to change all the data stored in Rebol.org to UTF-8 for it to be 
processed properly.

It is probably a bit funny, but I used to put both of following head 
part in my HTML pages:

    <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=windows-1257">

    <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-10">

It worked so that it was corectly displayed in M$ Exploer and Opera.

The Baltic Rim ( "Windows Baltic Microsoft code page – cp 1257") 
is the standart.

I will send to your e-mail couple of images with characters and codes.

thanks. Gabriele, you specify A4 with as 211mm but it is 210mm http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/iso-paper.html

Regexlib has a different ISO-8601 date matching regex:
    http://regexlib.com/REDetails.aspx?regexp_id=2092

And the ability to enter any regex and target strings to test what 
happens:
    http://regexlib.com/RETester.aspx?

one recomandation under windows to unzip the syllable ISO image compressed 
in bz2 the best software to recommand to people is 7-zip (http://www.7-zip.org) 
it's free pretty performant and unix compression algo compliant unlike 
winzip :)

so, maybe you can "burn" the iso image to a virtual cd.

the iso image is compressed with bz2, and now I have to find a japanese 
web site that has lzarc to decompress the bloody thing

It defeats the purpose of having an iso image.  To make it easy.

suports: 7-ZIP, A, ACE, ARC, ARJ, B64, BH, BIN, BZ2, BZA, C2D, CDI, 
CAB, CPIO, DEB, ENC, GCA, GZ, GZA, HA, IMG, ISO, JAR, LHA, LIB, LZH, 
MBF, MDF, MIM, NRG, PAK, PDI, PK3, RAR, RPM, TAR, TAZ, TBZ, TGZ, 
TZ, UUE, WAR, XXE, YZ1, Z, ZIP, ZOO

If I download any other linux distro, I can get it as an ISO image 
etc.

but I suspected there might be a problem as when I tried to download 
it it had an htm extension which I removed to save as an iso extension

If you could burn it, it should have been an ISO. But there should 
not be an .htm extension

Did you burn it as an ISO image, not as a data file?

yes as an iso...if you click the link it brings me to a web page 
with jibberish on the screen as if its displaying binary data so 
I saved and changed the name removing the htm.

That most probably doesn't yield a proper CD ISO. It says to rightclick

the iso was 6.8 megs

Many bugs were fixed, including several regressions from earlier 
releases. The window decorators don't destabilise the system anymore. 
The installation procedure is greatly enhanced with options to fix 
hardware support problems. The native web browser is replaced with 
Webster, based on a newer version of the WebKit engine. Many enhancements 
were made to standards support, leading, among others, to the ability 
to run QEmu - so now you can run virtual machines. The documentation 
was improved and several translations were added. Read more in the 
full release notes: http://downloads.syllable.org/Syllable/i586/systems/Desktop/0.6.6/README-SyllableDesktop-0.6.6.txt
ISO CD images, (VMware) emulator images, an upgrade pack and documentation 
are available from the download page: http://web.syllable.org/pages/get-Syllable.html
Extra software is available here: http://web.syllable.org/Syllable/downloads.html

Is it possible to put the bootable ISO image onto a USB key to install 
from that? I would like to try both Syllable Desktop and Server on 
my Acer Aspire One. It doesn't have a CD-ROM, though.

perhaps you need this carl -> https://euronode.com/On demand Iso-image 
 building online for debian...

example:
ISO20060306174904

Debian GNU/Linux system                         100.00 Euros

Unix Tools                                       25.00 Euros
- CD Recorder                                     5.00 Euros
- DVD+RW Recorder                                 5.00 Euros
- ISO FS maker                                    5.00 Euros
- GNU GCC compiler                                5.00 Euros
- GNU GDB debugger                                5.00 Euros
- Python language                                 5.00 Euros
- Ruby language                                   5.00 Euros
- NMAP security scanner                           5.00 Euros
- Tcpdump traffic dumper                          5.00 Euros
- Vi IMproved                                     5.00 Euros
============================================================
TOTAL                                           175.00 Euros

No, I downloaded an ISO image before and burnt that.

But if you have our 0.6.2 ISO, why not install that in VMWare?

Must have been 6 months or more ago that I downloaded the ISO.

When you install suse from cds .. and you need to install other packages, 
it may ask you for the installation cds.  is there a way around this? 
 mount the cds as iso images?

Where do I get a minimal Debian ISO with XEN installed from? Any 
links? I did a search already but was not so successful with it.

I think the Debian people would say that any Debian ISO is a minimal 
one. If you do a custom server install, you can easily start with 
the minimum and just add Xen

Debian allows you to start with an ISO image as small as 32 Mb, as 
seen here: http://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst

I have put eeeBuntu on a LiveUSB (the base version was only about 
600 Mb ISO ) and may install that as my debian

Well, in Rebol/View 2.7.6.4.2, I can paste the multiply sign (copied 
from ascii-math.r) straight into the console and it shows correctly. 
In a field, however, it shows incorrectly, eg. if I try to paste 
it in the field:
	view layout [f: field]
I get two characters,  'Ã' and a dotted box, displayed instead.

The binary information is correct, it's just not rendered correctly, 
for if back in the console I do:
	probe f/text
then I get the multiply symbol displayed correctly again.

So it looks like View face/text rendering is expecting 8-bit ascii 
of some encoding.
Probably ISO/IEC_8859-1

On more close inspection, what I see here in a Rebol/View 2.7.6.4.2 
view face/text looks very much like ISO/IEC_8859-1.

The A with tilde on top is what I see here in Altme in wine on linux. 
(Makes sense.)

Thanks Gabriele. I wanted to know in case we convert the Script library 
to utf-8 what conversions we would need to support Library Data Services. 
I already have a utf-8 to iso-8859-1 conversion function.(It on't 
be as good as yours or one of  Oldes but it works).


(When I say if we convert the script library, I really mean Sunanda 
as he does all the hard work).

http://download.tuxfamily.org/slitaz/iso/2.0/flavors/

With Apache 2.x (normal CGI), we have: make object! [ 
	server-software: "Apache/2.0.54 (Fedora)" 
	server-name: "localhost" 
	gateway-interface: "CGI/1.1" 
	server-protocol: "HTTP/1.1" 
	server-port: "80" 
	request-method: "GET" 
	path-info: "/sample01.rhtml" 
	path-translated: "/var/www/html/sample01.rhtml" 
	script-name: "/cgi-bin/magic.cgi" 
	query-string: "" 
	remote-host: none 
	remote-addr: "127.0.0.1" 
	auth-type: none 
	remote-user: none 
	remote-ident: none 
	Content-Type: none 
	content-length: none 
	other-headers: [
		"HTTP_HOST" "localhost" 

  "HTTP_USER_AGENT" {Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.10) 
  Gecko/20050720 Fedora/1.0.6-1.1.fc4 Firefox/1.0.6} 

  "HTTP_ACCEPT" {text/xml,application/xml,application/xhtml+xml,text/html;q=0.9,text/plain;q=0.8,image/png,*/*;q=0.5} 
		"HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE" "en-us,en;q=0.5" 
		"HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING" "gzip,deflate" 
		"HTTP_ACCEPT_CHARSET" "ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7" 
		"HTTP_KEEP_ALIVE" "300" 
		"HTTP_CONNECTION" "keep-alive" 
		"HTTP_COOKIE" "PHPSESSID=7f84fd7766f23e1462fed550ecbbfda4"
	] 
]

Hi all,

Is it possible to decode iso-8859-1 subject in the pending emails 
window ?


Maybe this script can help http://www.reboltech.com/library/html/utf-8.html

From Didier

	; decode ISO-8859-1 / ASCII-US encoded text

 decode-iso8859: func [str /local ascii non-ascii char text emit quoted-printable 
 encoded-word res b e] [
		emit: func [v][append res v]
		ascii: charset [#" " - #"^(7f)"]
		non-ascii: complement ascii
		text: exclude union ascii non-ascii charset ["="]
		char: exclude ascii charset ["?_=^-"]
		encoded-word: [
			"=?" ["ISO-8859-1" | "us-ascii"] [
				"?q?" some quoted-printable |
				"?b?" b: to "?" e: (emit to-string debase copy/part b e)
			] "?="
		]
		quoted-printable: [
			"_" (emit #" ") |
			b: some char e: (emit copy/part b e) |

   b: "=" (emit do rejoin [ {#"^^(} second b third b {)"} ]) 2 skip
		]

		res: make string! length? str

  parse/all str [any [encoded-word | "=" (emit #"=") | "^/ " | b: some 
  text e: (emit copy/part b e)] to end]
		res
	]

Thanks Graham ... I already decode ISO-8858-1 in the main window 
using this code .... I think Fabrice wants the same code to be used 
in decoding the subject lines in the pending mail window.

What I need is an example .... but I need to know its coming as I 
dont want to delete it from the server when I fetch my mail .... 
:-)

Received: from web26108.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.10.232])

        by mail.prosygma-asp.com (Merak 7.5.2) with SMTP id 1TI26716
        for <[me-:-you-:-com]>; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 04:58:31 +0200

Received: (qmail 67900 invoked by uid 60001); 26 Apr 2005 02:58:30 
-0000

Message-ID: <[20050426025830-:-67898-:-qmail-:-web26108-:-mail-:-ukl-:-yahoo-:-com]>

Received: from [81.248.68.164] by web26108.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via 
HTTP; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 04:58:29 CEST
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 04:58:29 +0200 (CEST)
From: Rodrigue <[you-:-me-:-com]>
Subject: Re: Erreur lors de l'enregistrement d'une news
To: Admin Rebol <[me-:-you-:-com]>
In-Reply-To: 6667
MIME-Version: 1.0

Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-370637848-1114484309=:67141"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0517-0, 25/04/2005), Inbound message
X-Antivirus-Status: Clean

--0-370637848-1114484309=:67141
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Salut Fabrice,
 
Peux tu me redire sous quel format je dois envoyer les photos

Rodrigue

Admin Rebol <[me-:-you-:-com]> wrote:
Bonjour Rodrigue,

>Salut Fabrice,

>contrairement à ce que je t'expliquais hier soir, les news ne s'enregistrent 
pas.
>voilà le message d'erreur : 

Peux-tu m'envoyer ce que tu veux mettre en ligne par @ ?

Je vérifierais directement avec tes données car il n'y a pas de problème 
de mon côté pour ajouter les news.

Merci.

-- 
Fabrice

		
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Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

<DIV>Salut Fabrice,</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>

<DIV>Peux tu me redire sous quel format je dois envoyer les photos<BR></DIV>
<DIV>Rodrigue</DIV>

<DIV><BR><B><I>Admin Rebol &lt;[me-:-you-:-com]&gt;</I></B> wrote:</DIV>

<BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; 
BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Bonjour Rodrigue,<BR><BR>&gt;Salut 
Fabrice,<BR>&gt;contrairement à ce que je t'expliquais hier soir, 
les news ne s'enregistrent pas.<BR>&gt;voilà le message d'erreur 
: <BR><BR>Peux-tu m'envoyer ce que tu veux mettre en ligne par @ 
?<BR>Je vérifierais directement avec tes données car il n'y a pas 
de problème de mon côté pour ajouter les news.<BR><BR>Merci.<BR><BR>-- 
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rebmail 4.10.11 & associated helptext has been released (18/06/2005) 
...

Changes Since 4.9.6
4.9.7   - Enhancement - Import emails" "Phil Bevan" 21/02/2005]

4.9.8   - Enhancement - Apply rules to a folder" "Phil Bevan" 30/05/2005]

4.9.9   - Bug Fix - Correct backdrop on getmail progress window" 
"Phil Bevan" 31/05/2005]

4.9.10  - Enhancement - decode ISO-8859-1 / ASCII-US encoded text" 
"Phil Bevan" 31/05/2005]

4.9.11  - Enhancement - allow Shift select to select multiple emails" 
"Phil Bevan" 01/06/2005]

4.9.12  - Bug Fix - Ensure download time is updated correcly" "Phil 
Bevan" 01/06/2005]
4.10.1  - Enhancement - Add options window
4.10.2  - Enhancement - Add rules maintenance
4.10.3  - Bug Fix - Remove Debugging info
4.10.4  - Bug Fix - Make Select Folder in Rules work
4.10.5  - Bug Fix - Apply send patch under View 1.3
4.10.6  - Bug Fix - Better Error trapping when applying fixes
4.10.7  - Bug Fix - Fix folder returned from unknown folder name

4.10.8  - Bug Fix - Do not try to copy email to itself when applying 
rules
4.10.9  - Enhancement - Add default inbox for incoming mail

4.10.10 - Bug Fix - Make Select Folder in Rules datila work for View 
1.2
4.10.11 - Bug Fix - Ensure preferences work on new install


rebmail.r can be found at .... http://www.upnaway.com/~philb/philip/pbmail/readmail.r

reabmail is also the following formats 

rip format at  .... http://www.upnaway.com/~philb/philip/pbmail/readmail.rip

zip format at  .... http://www.upnaway.com/~philb/philip/pbmail/readmail.zip


the archive containing rebmail.r & rebamail.html (rip = compressed 
self extracting rebol archive)
 
Any problems let me know.

Yes, like this:

>> s: read http://www.rebol.com
URL Parse: none none www.rebol.com none none none
Net-log: ["Opening" "tcp" "for" "HTTP"]
connecting to: www.rebol.com
Net-log: {GET http://www.rebol.com/HTTP/1.0
Accept: */*
Connection: close
User-Agent: REBOL Command 2.5.6.3.1
Host: www.rebol.com
}
Net-log: "HTTP/1.0 200 OK"
Net-log: ["low level read of " 2048 "bytes"]
Net-log: ["low level read of " 2048 "bytes"]
Net-log: ["low level read of " 2048 "bytes"]
Net-log: ["low level read of " 2048 "bytes"]
Net-log: ["low level read of " 2048 "bytes"]
Net-log: ["low level read of " 2048 "bytes"]
== {<html>
<head>

<meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html;charset=iso-8859-1">
<title>REBOL Technologies</title>
<style ...

http://www.compkarori.com/reb/download-manager.r


is a wrapper around Anton's batch download script.  It reads a configuration 
file(s) from a site and loads the data into the script.

This is as: file description url and then extended file description.

Defaults are embedded into the script and are used if the read fails.
You can use it to download iso files etc.

Added Czech dictionary file (see http://www.dobeash.com/it/rebgui/roadmap.html) 
and dat files provided by Bobik (see http://www.dobeash.com/files/CzechWin.dat
and http://www.dobeash.com/files/CzechLinux.datfor different char 
encodings - win-1250 & ISO-8859-2 respectively).

Chris -- I don't get that problem,

But you did make me look closer, and my earlier statement was wrong.
I'm using

http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/download-a-script.r?script-name=xml-object.r
Which is similar to xml-parse, but not identical.
Example of usage:
probe: first reduce xml-to-object parse-xml
     {<?xml version="1.0" encoding="ISO-8859-1"?>
      <xxx>11</xxx>
     }

John, I've downloaded it from your website - thank you!

One more question from an unexperienced REBOL-user:

What is the most commen way to enhance a block I've got with xml2rebxml, 
source is
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="iso-8859-1"?>
<chapter id="ch_testxml" name="Test XML">
  <title>A chapter with some xml tests</title>
  <sect1 id="sct_about" name="About my Tests">
    <title>What kind of tests I will do</title>
    <body>
      <para>Some simple paragraph.</para>
    </body>
  </sect1>
</chapter>

After read in the file with
my-doc: xml2rebxml read %test.xml

I'd like to insert a second sect1-element in the block my-doc, whats 
the best way - just to avoid some stupid mistakes.

MichaelB: about unicode handling. That's a point we didn't think 
about, because we're working in iso-8859-1 (western european) and 
not utf-8 or-16. So we've to see what would the cost be of it. If 
here is any suggestion about how to handle this, those are mostly 
welcome ! (I handled a similar problem with a simple replace/all, 
but i don't know if it's the best approach)
About a port-approach... What should be the advantages ?

RebXML: I did some testing with rebxml, the documents I used can 
be found here:
 http://www.simplix.de/rebol/resources/xml/xmltests.zip

There is also a simple script that reads the XML docs in and writes 
them back.

Some problems I found:
- empty attributes, I have fixed this in the zip

- entities in content: all should be escaped, because they can be 
found there, otherwise a " gets "
- comments after last element missed
- comments before first element - missing line feed
- missing PIs in output


Another question: encoding - it seems that all output files will 
be written in iso-8859-1 ?

but first load correct charset, for example:
ucs2/load-rules "ISO-8859-1"

Pekr: Czech sort does not have anything in common with Unicode. It 
is complicated (much more complicated than useful in computer era). 
Any code (Unicode, ISO Latin2, Windows 1250, ...) can be used, the 
sort algorithm needs to be implemented in any case.

Gabriele: I checked the support of capital letters and found out, 
that all Czech capital letters found in ISO Latin 2 were supported, 
i.e. case conversions were supported. This is somewhat simpler than 
Czech sort.

rebol's internationalisation support is pretty weak in that regard

 - if you mean that REBOL does not support Czech sorting, then you 
 are right. Otherwise Rebol supports Czech coding supporting ISO Latin 
 2 as mentioned above

Adobe Systems today announced that it has released the full PDF (Portable 
Document Format) 1.7 specification to AIIM, the Association for Information 
and Image Management. AIIM, in turn, will start working on making 
PDF an ISO standard.

It wouldn't recognise my dvd drive or something.  So, maybe i need 
to install from ISO image.

ISO votes no for first round of Microsoft's Open Office XML bid

http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,136711-c,techindustrytrends/article.html

Of note, about 20 years ago I wrote up a paper to build a camera 
with a 100x100 CCD that could capture huge images by vibrating the 
aperture (which would be small than a standard pin hole).  The speed 
of your CPU would control the time it took, thus faster computers 
= higher ISO values, that simple.


You would also be able to point it at something far away, and tell 
it to focus on that region, thus getting a clear image even at a 
very far distance.


This is still worth building today.  A $10 camera that takes 10Kx10K 
image in about 1 second, not bad.  Through software you could remove 
things that moved as well, for example cars that park over night, 
people walking around, etc.  Over several days you would end up with 
a crystal clear image of anything that was not moving.

YYYYMMDD is the short form of the iso date, 
otherwise it should be YYYY-MM-DD, if I remember.

it's also covered by ISO 8601
YYYY-MM-DD hh:mm:ss
or compact 
YYYYMMDDhhmmss
 I use mostly the compact form in my scripts.

geomol, I once had the idea that you could define ISO units as kind 
of datatypes and do scientific calculations on them

ubuntu will save us all dl live-cd iso brun iso restart computer 
with the new CD in it and VOILA :P

Even if the server is running on R2, all the strings could be stored 
with a consistent encoding method, such as ISO-8859-1. Of course, 
there'd be a lot of work detecting the client encoding method and 
converting all input strings to the chosen consistent method. Most 
of this work would be needed even if the server supported Unicode 
strings.

REBOL.org shows a ? because if blindly emits all Alte pages as charset=utf-8.

If (this works in Firefox....You change your default for the page 
-- view/character encoding / western iso-8859-1) then:
-- Peter's post shows a GBP [for his char 163]
-- Chris' post shows a 1/2 [for his char 189]

Maxim's suggestion might work syntactically, but we would lose the 
money! syntax, which is the ISO standard syntax for currency. If 
we added a unit! type with Maxim's syntax we could use the same implementation 
internally for both money! and unit!.

The $ is part of the ISO standard, as is the limit of 3 alphabetic 
characters preceeding it.

yes, but how do you then prevent: read http://somewhere.com/16GBiso.iso
?

I also think the "default" user text format should be configurable. 
  I have absolutely no desire to start using utf-8 for my code and 
data, especially when I have a lot of stuff that already is in iso 
latin-1 encoding.

Yes on Czach machines ..... I think its Windpws codepage 1250. I 
beleive the default codepage on most US machines is 1252 (MS's extended 
version of ISO-8859-1).

Seems a bit complicated to get ISO-8859-1. What about other languages?

I reinstall plugin but it is the same - here some more explanation:

I can not to get to run the new version of script in rebol plugin 
- always getting old version, despite I changed version values in 
both files (web page and script)

Yestrday I solved it so that I saved script with new name - than 
it worked - I could by changing version values run new version of 
script in plugin.
But today with the same file can not.

I have web page for plugin:
>>>>>>snip<<<<<<<<<<<<<
<html>
  <head>

  <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-10">
    <META HTTP-EQUIV="PRAGMA" CONTENT="NO-CACHE">
    <META HTTP-EQUIV="CACHE-CONTROL" CONTENT="PRIVATE">
  </head>
  <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF">

<OBJECT
ID="RPluginIE"
CLASSID="CLSID:9DDFB297-9ED8-421d-B2AC-372A0F36E6C5"

CODEBASE="http://www.rebol.com/plugin/rebolb7.cab#Version=1,0,0,0"
WIDTH="240"
HEIGHT="85"
BORDER="1"
ALT="REBOL/Plugin"></center>
<PARAM NAME="LaunchURL" value="rmapsconsole03.r">
<PARAM NAME="Version" VALUE="1.5.0">
</OBJECT>
  </body>
</html>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>snap<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

and script in the same directory

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>snip<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
REBOL [
	Title: "Rebol Web Kartes"
	Version: 1.5.0
	Author: "Janeks Kamerovskis"
]

mapsize: 400x300
imgType: "JPEG"

mainWin: layout [
	t1: text "AAA"
	button 200x20 "Atvçrt" [
		do smoething
	]
	do [
		t1/text: "Text changed"
		show t1
	]
]

view mainWin
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>snap<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

It's not a short paste...
[HTTPd] ================== NEW REQUEST ==================

                                                         [HTTPd] Request Line=>GET /testapp/ HTTP/1.1

                                                                                                     [HTTPd] Request Headers=>
Host: localhost:8080

User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.3) Gecko/20070310 
Iceweasel/2.0.0.3 (Debian-2.0.0.3-1)

Accept: text/xml,application/xml,application/xhtml+xml,text/html;q=0.9,text/plain;q=0.8,image/png,*/*;q=0.5
Accept-Language: en-us,en;q=0.5
Accept-Encoding: gzip,deflate
Accept-Charset: ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7
Keep-Alive: 300
Connection: keep-alive


[HTTPd] Phase url-to-filename done ( mod-alias )

                                                [HTTPd] Phase url-to-filename done ( mod-rsp )

                                                                                              [HTTPd] Phase url-to-filename done ( mod-fastcgi )
   [HTTPd] Phase url-to-filename done ( mod-static )

                                                    [HTTPd] Phase access-check done ( mod-action )

                                                                                                  [HTTPd] Phase set-mime-type done ( mod-action )
    [HTTPd] Phase make-response done ( mod-rsp )

                                                [HTTPd] Response=>

                                                                  HTTP/1.1 302 Moved Temporarily
Server: Cheyenne/0.9.11
Connection: close
Location: /testapp/login.rsp


[HTTPd] Phase logging done ( mod-static )

                                         [HTTPd] Phase clean-up done ( mod-rsp )

                                                                                [HTTPd] Connection closed

[HTTPd] ================== NEW REQUEST ==================        
                                        /

                                                         [HTTPd] Request Line=>GET /testapp/login.rsp HTTP/1.1

                                                                                                              [HTTPd] Request Headers=>
Host: localhost:8080

User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.3) Gecko/20070310 
Iceweasel/2.0.0.3 (Debian-2.0.0.3-1)

Accept: text/xml,application/xml,application/xhtml+xml,text/html;q=0.9,text/plain;q=0.8,image/png,*/*;q=0.5
Accept-Language: en-us,en;q=0.5
Accept-Encoding: gzip,deflate
Accept-Charset: ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7
Keep-Alive: 300
Connection: keep-alive


[HTTPd] Phase url-to-filename done ( mod-alias )

                                                [HTTPd] Phase url-to-filename done ( mod-rsp )

                                                                                              [HTTPd] Phase url-to-filename done ( mod-fastcgi )
   [HTTPd] Phase url-to-filename done ( mod-static )

                                                    [HTTPd] Phase access-check done ( mod-action )

                                                                                                  [HTTPd] Phase set-mime-type done ( mod-action )
    [HTTPd] Phase make-response done ( mod-rsp )
[HTTPd] Response=>
                  HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Server: Cheyenne/0.9.11
Content-Length: 482
Content-Type: text/html
Connection: Keep-Alive

Set-Cookie: RSPSID=EISPOMAZTPDFKVIWJAFONZDE; expires=Sat, 02 Jun 
2007 11:54:30 GMT; path=/testapp; HttpOnly
Pragma: no-cache
Cache-Control: no-cache, must-revalidate
Expires: Thu, 01 Dec 1994 16:00:00 GMT


[HTTPd] Phase logging done ( mod-static )

                                         [HTTPd] Phase clean-up done ( mod-rsp )

                                                                                [HTTPd] Phase task-done done ( mod-rsp )

[HTTPd] ================== NEW REQUEST ==================        
                                                       \

                                                         [HTTPd] Request Line=>POST /testapp/login.rsp HTTP/1.1

                                                                                                               [HTTPd] Request Headers=>
Host: localhost:8080

User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.3) Gecko/20070310 
Iceweasel/2.0.0.3 (Debian-2.0.0.3-1)

Accept: text/xml,application/xml,application/xhtml+xml,text/html;q=0.9,text/plain;q=0.8,image/png,*/*;q=0.5
Accept-Language: en-us,en;q=0.5
Accept-Encoding: gzip,deflate
Accept-Charset: ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7
Keep-Alive: 300
Connection: keep-alive
Referer: http://localhost:8080/testapp/login.rsp
Content-Type: application/x-www-form-urlencoded
Content-Length: 23


[HTTPd] Phase url-to-filename done ( mod-alias )

                                                [HTTPd] Phase url-to-filename done ( mod-rsp )

                                                                                              [HTTPd] Phase url-to-filename done ( mod-fastcgi )
   [HTTPd] Phase url-to-filename done ( mod-static )

                                                    [HTTPd] Posted data=>login=test&pass=letmein

                                                                                                [HTTPd] Phase access-check done ( mod-action )
 [HTTPd] Phase set-mime-type done ( mod-action )

                                                [HTTPd] Phase make-response done ( mod-rsp )
[HTTPd] Response=>
                  HTTP/1.1 301 Moved Permanently
Server: Cheyenne/0.9.11
Connection: close
Location: /testapp/

Set-Cookie: RSPSID=YDADUIONKJPHLFBWEDZDFCXN; expires=Sat, 02 Jun 
2007 11:54:37 GMT; path=/testapp; HttpOnly


[HTTPd] Phase logging done ( mod-static )

                                         [HTTPd] Phase clean-up done ( mod-rsp )

                                                                                [HTTPd] Phase task-done done ( mod-rsp )

                                                                                                                        [HTTPd] Connection closed
    [HTTPd] ================== NEW REQUEST ==================

                                                             [HTTPd] Request Line=>GET /testapp/ HTTP/1.1

                                                                                                         [HTTPd] Request Headers=>
Host: localhost:8080

User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.3) Gecko/20070310 
Iceweasel/2.0.0.3 (Debian-2.0.0.3-1)

Accept: text/xml,application/xml,application/xhtml+xml,text/html;q=0.9,text/plain;q=0.8,image/png,*/*;q=0.5
Accept-Language: en-us,en;q=0.5
Accept-Encoding: gzip,deflate
Accept-Charset: ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7
Keep-Alive: 300
Connection: keep-alive
Referer: http://localhost:8080/testapp/login.rsp


[HTTPd] Phase url-to-filename done ( mod-alias )

                                                [HTTPd] Phase url-to-filename done ( mod-rsp )

                                                                                              [HTTPd] Phase url-to-filename done ( mod-fastcgi )
   [HTTPd] Phase url-to-filename done ( mod-static )

                                                    [HTTPd] Phase access-check done ( mod-action )

                                                                                                  [HTTPd] Phase set-mime-type done ( mod-action )
    [HTTPd] Phase make-response done ( mod-rsp )

                                                [HTTPd] Response=>

                                                                  HTTP/1.1 302 Moved Temporarily
Server: Cheyenne/0.9.11
Connection: close
Location: /testapp/login.rsp


[HTTPd] Phase logging done ( mod-static )

                                         [HTTPd] Phase clean-up done ( mod-rsp )

                                                                                [HTTPd] Connection closed

                                                                                                         [HTTPd] ================== NEW REQUEST ==================

                     [HTTPd] Request Line=>GET /testapp/login.rsp HTTP/1.1

                                                                          [HTTPd] Request Headers=>
Host: localhost:8080

User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.3) Gecko/20070310 
Iceweasel/2.0.0.3 (Debian-2.0.0.3-1)

Accept: text/xml,application/xml,application/xhtml+xml,text/html;q=0.9,text/plain;q=0.8,image/png,*/*;q=0.5
Accept-Language: en-us,en;q=0.5
Accept-Encoding: gzip,deflate
Accept-Charset: ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7
Keep-Alive: 300
Connection: keep-alive
Referer: http://localhost:8080/testapp/login.rsp


[HTTPd] Phase url-to-filename done ( mod-alias )

                                                [HTTPd] Phase url-to-filename done ( mod-rsp )

                                                                                              [HTTPd] Phase url-to-filename done ( mod-fastcgi )
   [HTTPd] Phase url-to-filename done ( mod-static )

                                                    [HTTPd] Phase access-check done ( mod-action )

                                                                                                  [HTTPd] Phase set-mime-type done ( mod-action )
    [HTTPd] Phase make-response done ( mod-rsp )

                                                [HTTPd] Response=>

                                                                  HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Server: Cheyenne/0.9.11
Content-Length: 482
Content-Type: text/html
Connection: Keep-Alive

Set-Cookie: RSPSID=RTJSUKAVYBNOLCJCJBSTNUHP; expires=Sat, 02 Jun 
2007 11:54:37 GMT; path=/testapp; HttpOnly
Pragma: no-cache
Cache-Control: no-cache, must-revalidate
Expires: Thu, 01 Dec 1994 16:00:00 GMT


[HTTPd] Phase logging done ( mod-static )

                                         [HTTPd] Phase clean-up done ( mod-rsp )

                                                                                [HTTPd] Phase task-done done ( mod-rsp )

Output from a Ice Weasel  http://dev:8080       - dev.rsp redirects 
to show.rsp...
Back

Timestamp: 2-Jun-2007/19:37:48-4:00

Request parameters :

    * HTTP Method: GET
    * HTTP Port: 8080
    * Client IP address: 192.168.1.102

Request headers :

    * Host : "dev"

    * User-Agent : {Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.3) 
    Gecko/20070310 Iceweasel/2.0.0.3 (Debian-2.0.0.3-1)}

    * Accept : {text/xml,application/xml,application/xhtml+xml,text/html;q=0.9,text/plain;q=0.8,image/png,*/*;q=0.5}
    * Accept-Language : "en-us,en;q=0.5"
    * Accept-Encoding : "gzip,deflate"
    * Accept-Charset : "ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7"
    * Keep-Alive : "300"
    * Connection : "keep-alive"

Request variables :

    * No variable passed

Session :

    * No session

Same error after upgrading Chromium, here's the verbose 5 log of 
the request:


3/4-01:38:00.891-[HTTPd] ================== NEW REQUEST ==================

3/4-01:38:01.531-[HTTPd] Request Line=>POST /ecg/blah.rsp HTTP/1.1

3/4-01:38:02.109-[HTTPd] Trying phase method-support ( mod-static 
)

3/4-01:38:02.828-[HTTPd] Trying phase url-translate ( mod-static 
)
3/4-01:38:03.062-[uniserve] Calling >on-received< with {^M
Host: localhost:8080^M
Connection: keep-alive^M
Us}
3/4-01:38:03.547-[HTTPd] Request Headers=>
Host: localhost:8080
Connection: keep-alive

User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US) AppleWebKit/530.5 
(KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/2.0.173.0 Safari/530.5
Referer: http://localhost:8080/ecg/blah.html
Content-Length: 153149
Cache-Control: max-age=0
Origin: http://localhost:8080

Content-Type: multipart/form-data; boundary=----WebKitFormBoundaryEv3SZArZWdjyznJZ

Accept: application/xml,application/xhtml+xml,text/html;q=0.9,text/plain;q=0.8,image/png,*/*;q=0.5
Accept-Encoding: gzip,deflate,bzip2,sdch
Accept-Language: en-US,en;q=0.8
Accept-Charset: ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.3



3/4-01:38:03.797-[HTTPd] Trying phase url-to-filename ( mod-alias 
)
3/4-01:38:04.031-[HTTPd] => request processed
3/4-01:38:04.766-[HTTPd] Trying phase url-to-filename ( mod-rsp )
3/4-01:38:05-[HTTPd] => request processed

3/4-01:38:05.469-[HTTPd] Trying phase url-to-filename ( mod-internal 
)

3/4-01:38:05.719-[HTTPd] Trying phase url-to-filename ( mod-static 
)
3/4-01:38:05.969-[HTTPd] => request processed

3/4-01:38:06.453-[uniserve] >> Port: 3789, low-level reading: 17520

3/4-01:38:06.703-[uniserve] >> Port: 3789, low-level reading: 17520

3/4-01:38:06.953-[uniserve] >> Port: 3789, low-level reading: 17520

3/4-01:38:07.437-[uniserve] >> Port: 3789, low-level reading: 17520

3/4-01:38:07.906-[uniserve] >> Port: 3789, low-level reading: 19980

3/4-01:38:08.391-[uniserve] Calling >on-received< with "------WebKitFormBoundaryEv3SZArZWdjyznJZ^M^/Content-"

3/4-01:38:08.875-[uniserve] >> Port: 3789, low-level reading: 16680

3/4-01:38:09.344-[uniserve] >> Port: 3789, low-level reading: 17520

3/4-01:38:09.844-[uniserve] >> Port: 3789, low-level reading: 17520

3/4-01:38:10.312-[uniserve] >> Port: 3789, low-level reading: 1149

3/4-01:38:10.797-[uniserve] Calling >on-received< with {037.17923" 
"4429 SUNNYSLOPE RD SW" "Port Orchard" }

3/4-01:38:11.266-## Error in [uniserve] : On-received call failed 
with error: make object! [
    code: 303
    type: 'script
    id: 'expect-arg
    arg1: 'insert
    arg2: 'series
    arg3: [series! port! bitset!]
    near: [insert/part tmp/port s skip e]
    where: 'process-bounded-content
] !
3/4-01:38:11.734-[uniserve] Port closed : 127.0.0.1

this is the request


GET /md/creategoogledoc.rsp?gdoc=simple-letter.rtf&patientid=2832&encounter=none 
HTTP/1.1
Host: gchiu.no-ip.biz:8000

User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.2) 
Gecko/20090729 Firefox/3.5.2 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729)

Accept: text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,*/*;q=0.8
Accept-Language: en-us,en;q=0.5
Accept-Encoding: gzip,deflate
Accept-Charset: ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7
Keep-Alive: 300
Connection: keep-alive
Referer: http://gchiu.no-ip.biz:8000/md/Listgoogledocs.rsp
Cookie: RSPSID=QZPTPCZIWWMMYBKWHWRQETGM

In addition :

- custom charset can also be set (default to ISO-8859-1").
- attached files are supported.

<Stating 20:00 UTC is like saying nothing ...>

Part of the idea behind ISO 8601 is that everyone should be able 
to convert their local time to UTC and vice versa. So times specified 
as UTC are unambiguous. Anything else, in an international context, 
is mis-interpretable.
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