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And imap, and a JDBC bridge

I will provide the basic ones for Red: TCP, UDP, DNS, HTTP(S), SSL, 
SSH/SFTP, SMTP. Also, I would like to have a few more for remote 
or local storage builtin: Dropbox, MySQL, Postgresql. 


You are welcome to contribute other ones to that list (IMAP, SMTP, 
MongoDB, CouchDB would be nice additions).

REBOL [
	Title: "Local Index" 
	Type: 'index 
	dynamic: true 
	plugin-pane: 0.5
]

title "Local Files"
app 0.3

group "A" effect [multiply green] 
			 
group "B" icon %action.png

action "a\gitarre"    do [explore %/f/gitarre/]
action "a\view-root" do [explore view-root]
action "a\hamster"   do [call "H:\prog\Hamster\Hamster.exe"]

action "b\Internet" do [
	call "H:\Programme\offline-proxy-mm3\MM3-WebAssistant.bat"
	call "C:\Programme\discountsurfer\discountsurfer.exe"
	call "H:\Programme\Mozilla\Firefox\firefox.exe"
	call "C:\Programme\Opera75\Opera.exe"
] 


action "b\Firefox" do [	call "H:\Programme\Mozilla\Firefox\firefox.exe"] 
icon %web-surf-action.png

action "c\desktop"   do [editor view-root/desktop.r] 
action "c\imap"      do [editor %imap-handler.r] 

file "Info" %info.txt
file "T\Test" %test1.r 
file "T\Test2" %test2.r 
file "T\Test" %test3.r

; this is composed ----
file (form now/date) %dummy.r

action "Click me" #clickme do [
            alert "hi"

            [Text "This will be displayed within the desktop" [alert "ho"]]
          ]

action "Click me 2" #clickme2 do [
            alert "hi"
			; no return value, so nothing displayed in the desktop
          ]

action "PRINT" do [print "^/^/----------------------^/^/^/"]
action "prin somethin" do ["yea"]
file "t\Test" %dummy.r

; this will draw the plugin
app-draw [face /local cl-size][
   cl-size: to pair! reduce [face/size/x 50]
	face/pane: layout/offset[
		at 0x0 
	   text "00:00:00" cl-size center 255.155.40 with [
   		font: [size: 24]
	   	rate: 1
		   user-data: none
   		feel: make feel [
	   		engage: func [face action event i] [
		   		if user-data <> now/time [
			   		i: form user-data: now/time
				   	if 7 > length? i [append i ":00"]
					   face/text: i
   					show face
	   			]
		   	]
      	]
      ]
      text "TEST" 
		button "hi" [alert "you!"] 
   	button "CLOSE" [unview/all] 
	] 0x0 face/size 
]

; if you need to redraw after a resize, not yet used
app-resize [new-size][]

Given the trouble with the Mailing list as well (feedback), what 
about simply moving everything over to Gmail Groups?  All these problems 
have been solved by them already.  It has IMAP access, so you can 
still do ML archives.  And it is all free.  There are a few things 
about Gmail Groups I don't like (but I suspect all ML have the same 
problems), I simply don't like Email in the first place, so I'm biased.

I think a big move to Gmail would have many positive aspects:


-	Feedback problem is gone, since you can have multiple moderators 
that can check.
-	We have a centralized location for requests to AltME

-	We can make it public already, so you may be able to avoid some 
of the tools you have been using to do this.

-	We are working "with" other systems, as opposed to "invented here"

-	There are other services Gmail offers that might enhance the experience.

If only AUTH, would be hard to add CRAM-MD5 which is already supported 
in Rebol's IMAP ?

switch port/locals/access/type [
            list [
                port/locals/list: copy* []
                port/state/tail: 0

                imap-check port reform [uppercase port/locals/access/list {""}

                    imap-form-string port/locals/access/name] none [ok]
            ]
            box select-block
            iuid [
                do select-block
                port/state/tail: 1
            ]
            search [
                port/locals/msg-uids: copy* []
                do select-block

                imap-check port reform ["UID SEARCH" port/locals/access/search] none 
                [ok]
                port/state/tail: length? port/locals/msg-uids
            ]
        ]

(imap protocol)

paul, the new switch allows multiple cases, thus /all makes sense. 
actually, I was able to use that in the imap protocol, which was 
using a "trick" to obtain the same results. so, now it's more readable 
and more elegant.

Component: "REBOL Mezzanine Extensions" 1.2.0 (1-Aug-2004/22:34:12)

Component: "REBOL Internet Protocols" 1.71.0 (4-Nov-2004/21:08:24)
Finger protocol loaded
Whois protocol loaded
Daytime protocol loaded
SMTP protocol loaded
POP protocol loaded
IMAP protocol loaded
HTTP protocol loaded
FTP protocol loaded
NNTP protocol loaded
Component: "Command Shell Access" 1.9.0 (3-Jan-2005/21:08:57)
Component: "System Port" 1.4.0 (1-Aug-2004/18:58:28)

Does REBOL/Core (or any other version) support the IMAP protocol?

http://www.rebol.com/core-info25.htmlmentions IMAP and APOP

There is a difference between the IMAP protocol itself (RFC 2060) 
and the imap:// URL scheme (RFC 2192). At this time REBOL only supports 
the imap:// URL scheme, which has a subset of the full IMAP protocol 
functionality. It handles mailbox lists, message lists, retrieving 
and deleting of messages, and message searches, i.e. it is API-compatible 
to pop://, with added support for multiple mailboxes and searches. 
Move/copy/rename and other administrative IMAP functions are not 
specified in RFC 2192 and not supported by REBOL's imap:// scheme 
at this time.

Thanks, folks. I know that IMAP itself is a bit of a muddle (based 
on profanities that I overheard from somebody who was trying to write 
a complete IMAP client for another language), but a subset of functionality 
is more than I knew about.

there's a bug in imap as released in the current stable and beta 
versions which Scott and I fixed.

http://www.compkarori.com/vanilla/display/IMAP

How can I position the internal (imap) scheme position? I'm trying 
to do sth. along the lines of: 

i: open imap://....
insert i [get mail 7]

and want to get the 7th mail ...

You might be thinking of one of these:
>> first system/schemes

== [self default Finger Whois Daytime SMTP ESMTP POP IMAP HTTP FTP 
NNTP HTTPS]

Hi!
Does Rebol suport AUTH=NTLM in IMAP protocol?
Thanks in advance!

Thanks Pekr - I already saw it, but I am thinking how to use them 
in case of IMAP.

I am not arguing that REBOL/View should not exist.  And in fact though 
I am talking about how I like Gmail I do currently use Apple Mail, 
a native program, to read and send messages via Gmail's IMAP (usually). 
 I'm just saying that the reason people are targeting the browser 
now instead of native code is because browsers have one of the most 
important features--efficient multilingual text layout in a 2D space, 
with inline images and such.  I can't embed a YouTube video here 
in the text box... if I type in a hyperlink it's not clickable... 
right click can't copy text, etc.

http://rebol.wik.is/Rebol3/Schemes/Imap4
Updated to version 0.0.2 
Logs into Imap server using cram-md5 if available
Switches to inbox
gets inbox status for unseen messages
Retrieves the first 3 messages

and php script via imap

http://php.net/manual/en/function.imap-open.php


Works with Gmail's new IMAP function for personal and for Google 
Apps.


$mbox = imap_open ("{imap.gmail.com:993/imap/ssl}INBOX", "[username-:-gmail-:-com]", 
"password")
     or die("can't connect: " . imap_last_error());

That's just imap

sure if you modify the r2 imap protocol to use ssl

because the imap server thinks the time is wrong and keeps shutting 
down :(

uses an IMAP server to store the messages

I think it's just a very finicky imap server .. dovecut .. that I 
picked

got an imap server included?

No IMAP server, but it would be straightforward to compile one, such 
as Cyrus

then one could run the Rebol IMAP bbs straight out of the box

Kaj, there never was any documentation except the source code which 
is linked at the bottom.  and all you need is Rebol and an imap server.

Or can it use any IMAP server?

Any imap server

But you configured an IMAP database?

I did try using yahoo mail as the imap server but there was too much 
latency

Oh, IMAP of course

the main reason I am running this image is so that I have an imap 
server to use with rebelBB !

well, the only thing I have running is uniserve, and the imap server

My imap server kept shutting itself down.

Looks like my system clock was slightly fast by a few seconds.  When 
I reset the time using my script with nist.gov clock, the imap server 
saw that that the time went back by 10 seconds, and so decided to 
shut it self down to avoid causing problems!

I happen to run a server, so I might set up an IMAP server to store 
all my mail, it is the ultimate geek solution.

Anyone using Dovecot IMAP mailserver here? I need to know if I can 
delete files on the filesystem from the mailbox dirs without bombing 
the mailserver. I have a couple of duplicate files I need to get 
rid of.

I dont have access to an IMAP server, so it would have been ard to 
develop for.  I have no idea how hard it would be to implement or 
how much reesign would be necessary.

well Rebol's imap support is quite incomplete ...

If it can help you, french rebol uses an IMAP server  
http://www.digicamsoft.com/cgi-bin/rebelBB.cgi

Source code at  http://www.digicamsoft.com/cgi-bin/rebelBB.cgi?code=1

it doesn't use Rebol's imap protocol though

Gmail is an IMAP server.  Its free.

The answer is, annoying and hard!  We are doing it right now (finally!). 
 
Should be done in about 30 days.
We plan to support Gmail's tags (which are cool).

http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=10339


Gmail doesn't currently support IMAP access. As part of our ongoing 
commitment to give our users easy access to their email, we have 
introduced POP access. We look forward to announcing other new features 
as they become available.

Phil if you need an IMAP account on a server to test with, we can 
give you access to the one we set up to test Qtask's new Webmail 
interface.  The account contains lots of examples like large attachments, 
deep folders.  As we learn more, we fill it with ore examples.  Just 
shoot me a private message, and I will get you name and password.

My provider free.fr offers a .. free .. pop/imap server. I can open 
an account for test.

One thing I'm focused on is creating lots of examples of problems 
in IMAP.  Special charaters (languages), emails with lots of odd 
things about them.  No return address, etc.

We want to try to come up with every problem.  All info and examples 
are welcome.

What I found that Rebol could be used with Exchange by using IMAP 
protocol, but only with some authentication methods.
In my case it is NTLM and it it not supported by Rebol.

I'm not sure how well the IMAP implementation works.

Nicolas, try this:
do http://www.rebol.cz/~cyphre/scripts/r2/toys/imap-cli.r


this is very simple CLI for access to google IMAP server (others 
should work too).


Once you run it you can just type at thh prompt IMAP commands. Snippet 
of example session:

Script: "IMAP CLI in REBOL" (none)
{* OK Gimap ready for requests from 90.183.64.72 27if531665fxm.20
}
IMAP>>login user pass

{* CAPABILITY IMAP4rev1 UNSELECT LITERAL+ IDLE NAMESPACE QUOTA ID 
XLIST CHILDREN X-GM-EXT-1 UIDPLUS COMPRESS=DEFLATE
A0001 OK [user-:-gmail-:-com] authenticated (Success)
}
IMAP>>examine inbox
{* FLAGS (\Answered \Flagged \Draft \Deleted \Seen)
* OK [PERMANENTFLAGS ()]
* OK [UIDVALIDITY 2]
* 5989 EXISTS
* 0 RECENT
* OK [UIDNEXT 70472]
A0002 OK [READ-ONLY] inbox selected. (Success)
}
IMAP>>

Hope this can be useful...

These both work well with Gmail (extensively tested):

http://www.rebol.it/power-mezz/schemes/imapcommands.html
http://www.rebol.it/power-mezz/mezz/imap.html

Unfortunately the documentation is not very good, but it shouldn't 
be too hard to figure out where it differs from the actual code. 
Also, if you grab the repository from Sourceforge, there are a couple 
bug fixes to mezz/imap.r

Oh, by the way, it's called imapx-handler.r, and adds some handling 
of mail-folders and and the possibility to fetch only specific headers 
to the imap protocol.

Finally IMAP in GMail

secure imap

You need to activate IMAP before use, in Setting, "Forwarding adn 
POP/IMAP". At the moment it seems not to be available for all accounts, 
not for mine for example ;-(

the instructions I looked at say to use the ssl imap ports

 Take a peek under your Settings in Gmail, and click into your 'Forwarding 
 and POP IMAP' tab to see if you are one of the lucky ones who got 
 IMAP first.

thanks for mentioning that. I just use imap and would never have 
known anything about it

I have added some funcionality to the imap handler. I guess I will 
have to rework this?

(So far it is in no way in a state to be released. I've added some 
way to handle mailboxes, but I want to do access by uid, too.)

petr, what would having pop or imap change? (btw, ftp... that's a 
mess of a protocol. find someone wanting to write that one :P) i 
really don't understand the point. pop and imap are "trivial". VID 
is the focus. i can't wast time on pop now. that can be done later 
on. i must spend my time on what's important - VID. having an R2-like 
R3 is just crazy. R2 is already here.

It looks like from what Gabriele is saying, it's at a state where 
one can write their own protocols such as pop, and imap

You act like anyone is able to write imap or pop protocols themselves. 
And yes, ftp might be the mess, so we are not going to have one, 
right?

petr... yes... anyone is able to write imap or pop. i don't think 
i'm a god or something like that, you know.

If someone needs pop, imap or ftp now, probably he will write it 
self. If it's not good enough for official R3, discard it. Someone 
else will try again.

And Pekr, yes, everyone _can_ code a pop / imap / ... protocol in 
rebol. You may not yet be abel to, but you can. On the other hand, 
you can't code the port system, or view basics, because wou would 
need access to the c source code.

Ingo - I don't agree at all. It is like saying everyone CAN code 
in C, because you have plenty of free text editors available. You 
would not probably want to see My rebol code and surely you would 
not accept it being part of official distro. So really - No - not 
everybody CAN code pop, imap protocol. If so - why did it take so 
long to get proper FTP protocol ready? Apop? etc.?

wouldn't it be good to get pop3, imap, smtp and ftp back to work 
first?

There is the rebolBB codebase too.  I just wasn't that big a fan 
of the use of IMAP.  And Vanilla is still pretty cool if not a little 
but neglected.

I can't get it working anymore .. and it doesn't like MS's imap implementation, 
nor AOL's free IMAP server.

Now that there's a framework inside the main Cheyenne process, I'm 
considering adding more UniServe based implemented protocols to Cheyenne, 
like HTTP, POP3, IMAP and MySQL. There are of course all async.

HTTP is the most advanced, I use it in several apps in production. 
POP3 is beta. IMAP has just a few lines of code. MySQL is alpha, 
but working.

These were date strings being returned by an IMAP server in the rebelBB.cgi 
script.  And because parse-header-date barfed on this format, it 
kept returning today's date.

i put this on rambo a while ago (same reason, imap servers)

i worked around the problem in my imap parser. it's ugly though. 
i hope it gets fixed. :)

Gab. has mentioned an updated imap protocol that might be donated 
... dunno if that is still on or not.

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The existing IMAP protocol for R2 should have the parsers written 
already

As I said above I don't use imap, and am not familiar with the protocol. 
 All this does is login using auth=login and grabs the first mail 
in the Inbox
http://rebol.wik.is/Rebol3/Schemes/Imap4

The r2 imap protocol is pretty basic ... so I don't see that we need 
do more than that ....except perhaps allow users to pass custom commands 
to the server.

re imap: i don't think that much of anything is necessary for imap 
atm. once i'm satisfied with the pop protocol, adapting it to imap 
will be quick and easy

the more interesting questions would be about a satisfying user interface. 
mostly how to wrap imap folders nicely in something that feels natural 
in rebol

http://rebol.wik.is/Rebol3/Schemes/Imap4
Updated to version 0.0.2 
Logs into Imap server using cram-md5 if available
Switches to inbox
gets inbox status for unseen messages
Retrieves the first 3 messages

I've got the imap protocol to the point where
1. can authenticate using cram-md5 ( reused r2 code )

2. can select different mailboxes ( unlike r2 where you have to select 
at time of opening the port )
3. length? 
4. Pick messages

However, I don't like this timeout which is there ..

I thought yahoo had free imap service .. but can't find it now :(

Looks like AIM still has free IMAP ... signing up again!

Signed up, sent myself a couple of emails to that account, and then 
managed to login and download using the imap protocol

I started with daytime, moved to smtp, and then ftp, fax and now 
imap.  I am using pretty much the same template with changes appropriate 
to the protocol.

I do this in ftp, fax and imap .. but I should go back and do this 
for smtp as well

Ok, good... then I'll start with IMAP... since it's more recent.

One thing that is not clear to me is that if you write to the port 

eg. write imap-port [ dialect stuff ]

and then 
wait imap-port


it can return immediately ... and you don't get anything unless you 
put in a timeout

eg. wait [ imap-port timeout ]

Graham, instead of
    write imap-port [ dialect stuff ]
    wait [ imap-port timeout ]
could you try:
    write imap-port [ dialect stuff ]
    read imap-port
    wait imap-port
I think that should work.

Already debugging the IMAP thingie

Ok, fixed the IMAP proto so that no timeout is needed anymore. Stumbled 
over what seems to be a bug in R3's USE, though:

which is what I have in my imap scheme ... could use similar for 
ftp

For instance pop or imap might need a SEND-EMAIL function exported, 
and maybe a SET-NET. That's all.