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Group: #Red ... Red language group [web-public]
DocKimbel:
30-Nov-2012
VID-like: definitely. Not only because it is a simple and efficient 
way to build GUI, but also because it nicely shows the power of dialecting, 
applied rightly, so it "validates" the whole concept behind REBOL 
and Red. 

I was planning two approaches:


- prototype a VID dialect for cross-platforma native GUI once we 
have the right interfaces between Red and Red/System. (That part 
will include also mobile platforms, if possible, else, they will 
have rely on a mobile-oriented GUI dialect). I will probably start 
to play with it around Christmas, and try to reach an alpha/beta 
in Q2 2013.


- prototype a VID dialect for HTML frontend, having GUI frameworks 
as backend targets (Sensha, jqueryUI,...). The hard part here is 
abstracting the client-side coding, Topaz would be great for that, 
if Gabriele can find time to continue working on it. Else, I will 
need to work on my own Red to JS compilateur.


It would be also nice to have a wrapper over R3/View or a Red/System 
port of it, but it would need contributors to take it in charge. 
There are also more possible GUI options.
Pekr:
30-Nov-2012
Well, as for me, it is easy as that - f*ck off native controls :-) 
What does that really mean today? I have really no intention seeing 
GTK or other crap. Either use your own GUI, or HTML, that's almost 
the only standard, which will prevail anyway. We should ask ourselves 
- how relevant is e.g. the Gnome GUI guide? And who cares in the 
big picture? So - for easy embedded stuff, just give me a small GUI 
system, for bigger picture, give me a  HTML5. I e.g. don't understand, 
why Kaj tries to port something like Enlightenment. I really miss 
the big picture. Who and why should ever use it? For personal purposes, 
or some specific stuff - why not, but that's not imo a strategic 
direction ...
AdrianS:
2-Dec-2012
One example of a reference that I find very useful is the Clojure 
cheat sheet. The one one clojure.org doesn't have tooltips, but some 
do. The nice thing is that all link to the clojuredocs.org site which 
is a great for crowdsourcing usage examples, including notes, caveats. 
For sure Red should have something similar.


http://jafingerhut.github.com/cheatsheet-clj-1.3/cheatsheet-tiptip-cdocs-summary.html

http://clojuredocs.org
AdrianS:
3-Dec-2012
I think I'm seeing a different trend Brian. Non-active styluses were 
first used on the not tablet pc tablets because it's the cheapest 
solution and the first tablets had relatively low rez screens and 
were primarily meant for consuming content. When you start doing 
any serious content creation palm rejection is a big issue and the 
non-active styluses do a relatively poor job of this. BTW, the Surface 
Pro looks to have an active stylus - not sure where you heard otherwise. 
Also see the Samsung Galaxy Note tablets (hugely popular)  which 
also have an active stylus. IMO, you're just going to see more and 
more tablets support these as screen resolutions go higher and people 
start doing real work on their devices. 


http://forum.tabletpcreview.com/microsoft/54066-microsoft-announces-surface-pro-pricing.html
Jerry:
4-Dec-2012
Doc, Is is possible to support something like VFS in SQLite (http://www.sqlite.org/c3ref/io_methods.html), 
So we (OK, me) can develop a simple RDBMS on Red, instead of doing 
it using Red/System
DocKimbel:
15-Dec-2012
Red 0.3.1 released: http://www.red-lang.org/2012/12/red-v031-functions-support-added.html

- function support
- path get/set notation support
- refinement support for native functions
- expressions in parentheses compilation

- new datatypes: function!, paren!, path!, lit-path!, get-path!, 
set-path!

- new actions and natives: find, select, copy, reflect, type?, halt,...

- extended mold, form and comparison operators to all new and existing 
datatypes
- many new mezzanines functions

- modulo and remainder operators on floats implemented for ARM backend
- Quick-Test testing framework ported to Red
- a truckload of new unit tests
- many bugfixes
- about 200 new commits to the Github repository
- updated Red/System formal description document
Gregg:
15-Dec-2012
Is http://www.red-lang.org/p/roadmap.htmlcurrent? You've been making 
so much progress, I'm guessing it's a little out of date.
Jerry:
21-Dec-2012
Endo, what you want is described in Section 17 in the Red/System 
Spec   http://static.red-lang.org/red-system-specs.html#section-17
PeterWood:
22-Dec-2012
There is a probable issue with value alignment as explained in http://static.red-lang.org/red-system-specs.html#section-4.7

I'm not sure how to handle "packed" stucts in Red/System.
DocKimbel:
2-Jan-2013
Fast forwarding Red history: http://www.red-lang.org/2013/01/fast-forwarding-red-history.html
Kaj:
8-Jan-2013
http://www.red-lang.org/p/contributions_20.html
Pierre:
11-Jan-2013
I looked into the docs subdirectory, ran
rebol makedoc2.r 

It made red-system-quick-test.html, but then I got my eyes sore with 
the black background, so I wanted the light version, clicked and 
... oops:

Firefox ne peut trouver le fichier à l'adresse /home/pierre/heaume_pierre/developpt/Red/docs/$LIGHT$.
Pierre:
11-Jan-2013
REBOL []

do/args %makedoc2.r 'load-only
doc: scan-doc read file: system/options/script
set [title out] gen-html/options doc [(options)]

file: last split-path file
replace file ".txt" ".html"
file2: copy file
insert find file2 "." "-light"
replace out "$DARK$"  file
replace out "$LIGHT$" file2

write file out
replace out "dark.css" "light.css"
write file2 out
DocKimbel:
11-Jan-2013
BTW, you can find these documentations already generated online here: 
http://www.red-lang.org/p/documentation.html
GrahamC:
11-Jan-2013
Can you add a link to the makedoc files on each html page?
GrahamC:
11-Jan-2013
Regarding docs, the issue for me, and perhaps others, is that reading 
html on your portable device requires an internet connection. So, 
an offline version such as epub or pdf is an advantage
Pierre:
11-Jan-2013
GrahamC: yes, I totally agree. I am quite often out of Internet connexion 
for long periods, so I do appreciate long html pages that I can save, 
rather than bunches of small html pages. A large pdf is even better. 
Or a large .txt file, actually.
Henrik:
12-Jan-2013
My own website is done with Cheyenne and the HTML dialect and is 
very easy for me to maintain: Makedoc files are rendered on the fly 
to each webpage. I can SSH to the server and edit files as I please 
and there is nearly zero HTML involved.


Granted, there is no blog or comments section, but is another example 
of how a small toolchain (one Cheyenne executable and a few script 
files) can be used to build a good website.
Arnold:
14-Jan-2013
With the implementation of a random function on Red/System I have 
some questions:

#DEFINE seems to become obsolete towards version 2, no preprocessor 
anymore, so any progress on a decision? https://github.com/dockimbel/Red/wiki/Alternatives-to-Red-System-pre-processor-%23define


How are you supposed to implement an array, I can figure out some 
things about using a pointer, but I cannot believe it will work with 
the example value of 40000000h 

http://static.red-lang.org/red-system-specs.html#section-4.8(.3)

I do not have a clue if this is a realistic value as a memory-address, 
that is why a simple array could come in handy.


At this moment I will not worry about support of a L(ong) or 64 bit 
type, I'll work with 32 bits for now.
GrahamC:
28-Jan-2013
Doc, would you update this page of yours http://www.red-lang.org/p/documentation.html


to indicate that Red chat is occuring at http://chat.stackoverflow.com/rooms/291/rebol-and-red
Kaj:
11-Feb-2013
http://www.rebol.com/r3/docs/concepts/funcs-defining.html#section-1
Pekr:
4-Mar-2013
Bo - I can suggest you to look into following slides - http://www.red-lang.org/p/about.html
Kaj:
5-Mar-2013
http://www.fossil-scm.org/download.html
DocKimbel:
20-Mar-2013
As is "Red" name:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_(Taylor_Swift_album)
http://www.sfr.fr/telephonie-mobile/series-red-de-sfr.html
and many more...
Kaj:
30-Mar-2013
http://web.syllable.org/news/2012-11-18-20-47-Red-high-level-programming-language-first-alpha.html
Kaj:
3-Apr-2013
http://www.gnu.org/software/libc/manual/html_node/Floating-Point-Classes.html
DocKimbel:
10-Apr-2013
For Red header, I've made it case sensitive on purpose as, unlike 
Rebol which is a very uncommon name, Red is very common, the risk 
of a false header detection is much higher (for scripts embedded 
in HTML, makedoc document, etc...). So the case-sensitivity would 
lower the number of false positives. An added benefit is that it 
forces users to write Red name correctly, so not RED or red.
Kaj:
10-Apr-2013
It was my understanding that string/rs-head returns a UTF-8 cache 
of a string. How can I get this value?


I'm trying to get UTF-8 back that I fed in. The problem I'm having 
is the following:

write %syllable.org.html read "http://syllable.org"

This writes out just one character instead of the expected file.
Oldes:
11-Apr-2013
If you check http://www.red-lang.org/p/roadmap.htmlyou can see that 
GC is made just from 10%. You are allocating large memory blocks, 
but do not free them posibly.
Pekr:
25-Apr-2013
Looking at http://www.red-lang.org/p/contributions.htmlit seems 
to me, that Red has more bindings, than for R2 + R3 combined :-) 
Maybe just an impression, as I miss such a conscise list on rebol.com 
website ....
DocKimbel:
28-Apr-2013
4) "It was announced last year that Unicode support was implemented 
in a week. What I found first is that Unicode support is useless, 
and now I've found that only ASCII is really supported." Unicode 
support has been implemented exactly as stated in (will get back 
to that point later):
http://www.red-lang.org/2012/09/plan-for-unicode-support.html
DocKimbel:
7-May-2013
Goals are stated since the beginning here: http://static.red-lang.org/red-system-specs.html#section-1
Kaj:
8-May-2013
http://web.syllable.org/news/2012-11-18-20-47-Red-high-level-programming-language-first-alpha.html
DocKimbel:
9-May-2013
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jdk7-downloads-1880260.html
Gregg:
28-May-2013
Think of Red as REBOL that can be compiled. The main docs are for 
Red/System at this point. 

http://static.red-lang.org/red-system-specs.html#section-19.2
Pekr:
28-May-2013
Geomol - you can watch some slides about what actually is Red - here 
- http://www.red-lang.org/p/about.html
Pekr:
3-Jun-2013
Geomol - try to understand your example. Imagine html file for e.g. 
Your [to a | to b ...] is wrong ... imagine 'a is at the end of the 
file. Simply "to a" will find it, before "to b" is even given chance 
to be applied. What we want is - find what is first - 'a or 'b ....
Arnold:
17-Jun-2013
I copied this from the documentation: http://static.red-lang.org/red-system-specs.html#section-4.8
paragraph 4.8.3 Dereferencing
Kaj:
17-Jun-2013
http://static.red-lang.org/red-system-specs.html#section-4.8.8
Geomol:
19-Jul-2013
What's the easiest way to try Red/System? I see do/system and #system 
[ ... ] suggestions in the docs:
http://static.red-lang.org/red-system-specs.html#section-17

, but I don't seem to get it to work.
Kaj:
24-Jul-2013
http://web.syllable.org/news/2012-11-18-20-47-Red-high-level-programming-language-first-alpha.html
Group: Announce ... Announcements only - use Ann-reply to chat [web-public]
Robert:
1-Jan-2013
We have updated our web-site http://development.saphirion.comto 
now include documentation from our SVN. The documentation is written 
in MDP format, dynamically read from the SVN (so you always get the 
latest version), and converted to HTML for inclusion on the page.
Kaj:
18-Jan-2013
http://rebol.esperconsultancy.nl/documentation/how-to-use-Fossil.html
MaxV:
21-Jan-2013
Nick Antonaccio made a beautiful advanced guide: http://re-bol.com/business_programming.html
go to see it.
Kaj:
18-Feb-2013
I upgraded the Fossil server for the Red bindings to the new version 
1.25. There are some nice new features in it:

http://www.fossil-scm.org/download.html

They also have a new short introduction guide:


http://www.fossil-scm.org/index.html/doc/trunk/www/fiveminutes.wiki
MaxV:
21-Feb-2013
Some updates on Rebol 3 Bazaar:  http://rebol2.blogspot.it/2013/02/rebol-3-bazaar-evolution.html
Kaj:
11-Mar-2013
I've updated the Red test binaries with the latest Red features, 
including the new support for the file! type:

http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/Red-test/dir?ci=tip


As a reminder, here are instructions for downloading them in one 
go:


http://web.syllable.org/news/2012-11-18-20-47-Red-high-level-programming-language-first-alpha.html


All programs for Syllable, Linux and Windows are supposed to work 
now. If you want to help improve the quality of the upcoming Red 
release, please test them and report bugs you find.
GrahamC:
26-Mar-2013
I have written a primer on how to wriite a network scheme in Rebol 
3 .. http://www.r3gui.com/Writing_a_Network_Scheme.html

Let me know if you spot any errors so that I may correct them
Kaj:
5-Apr-2013
The ReadLine library is available for Android, but hard to install, 
so I made an attempt to build a red console for Android that doesn't 
use it. I have no idea if it works, so I would really like someone 
to test it:


http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/Red-test/doc/trunk/Android/Red/red-core


There may also be issues with the paths to the cURL and SQLite libraries. 
They should be included in Android, but if the paths are different, 
I would like to know that, too. Remember Doc's blog about how to 
start Red executables on Android:

http://www.red-lang.org/2011/12/arm-support-released.html
MaxV:
6-May-2013
Welcome back editor:  http://rebol2.blogspot.it/2013/05/r3b-update-welcome-back-editor.html
Kaj:
20-Jun-2013
As an example, the interpreter to run messaging scripts on a Raspberry 
Pi without GUI is here:

Linux-ARM/Red/red-core-message


The interpreter to develop GUI scripts on x86 Linux to communicate 
with a Raspberry Pi is here:

Linux/Red/red-message


A similar interpreter to develop GUI scripts on Windows to communicate 
with a Raspberry Pi is here:

MSDOS/Red/red-message.exe


As always, for Windows you also have to download the libraries that 
are included in the repository, according to the instructions here:


http://web.syllable.org/news/2012-11-18-20-47-Red-high-level-programming-language-first-alpha.html
Kaj:
10-Jul-2013
Remember Doc's instructions for running command line programs on 
Android:

http://www.red-lang.org/2011/12/arm-support-released.html
Group: Ann-Reply ... Reply to Announce group [web-public]
GrahamC:
22-May-2013
http://www.fltk.org/doc-2.0/html/index.html
Group: Rebol School ... REBOL School [web-public]
Sujoy:
10-Oct-2012
i'm trying to extract article text from an awfully written series 
of html pages - one sample:


http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/vadra-/a-little-helpmy-friends//489109/
Sujoy:
10-Oct-2012
there are 160 </table> tags!!
worse, article contents are scattered throughout the html mess
Sujoy:
10-Oct-2012
yeah - thanks Endo

that works great for well formed html docs - but this site is an 
absolute nightmare!
Kaj:
10-Oct-2012
I've used the HTML parser from PowerMezz to parse complex web pages 
like that
Sujoy:
10-Oct-2012
note from the python code that there are styles and javascript specified 
inside the <p> element!
i was wondering about Gabrielle's HTML niwashi tree
Kaj:
10-Oct-2012
#! /usr/bin/env r2
REBOL []

here: what-dir

program: dirize clean-path here/../../../cms/files/program/PowerMezz

do program/mezz/module.r

load-module/from program

module [
	imports: [
		%mezz/trees.r
		%mezz/load-html.r
		%mezz/html-to-text.r
	]
][
;	print mold-tree load-html read http://osslo.nl/leveranciers

	make-dir %data

	for id 1 169 1 [
		print id

  page: load-html read join http://osslo.nl/leveranciers?mod=organization&id=
  id


  content: get-node page/childs/html/childs/body/childs/div/childs/3/childs/2

		body: get-node content/childs/table/childs/tbody
;		print form-html/with body [pretty?: yes]
;		print mold-tree body

;		item: get-node body/childs/10/childs/2
;		print form-html/with item [pretty?: yes]
;		print mold-tree item
;		print mold item

		record: copy ""
		short-name: name: none

		unless get-node body/childs/tr/childs/th [  ; Missing record
			foreach item get-node body/childs [

    switch/default type: trim get-node item/childs/td/childs/text/prop/value 
    [
					"Logo:" [

;						if all [get-node item/childs/2/childs/1  get-node item/childs/2/childs/1/childs/1] 
[
;							repend record

;								['icon tab tab tab tab		get-node item/childs/2/childs/a/childs/img/prop/src 
 newline]
;						]
					]
					"Naam:" [
						if get-node item/childs/2/childs/1 [
							repend record

        ['name tab tab tab tab		name: trim/lines html-to-text get-node item/childs/2/childs/text/prop/value 
         newline]
						]
					]
...					"Adres:" [

      unless empty? trim/lines html-to-text form-html/with get-node item/childs/2 
      [pretty?: yes] [
							street: get-node item/childs/2/childs/1/prop/value
							place: get-node item/childs/2/childs/3/prop/value

							number: next find/last street #" "
							street: trim/lines html-to-text copy/part street number

							unless empty? street [
								repend record ['street tab tab tab tab	street newline]
							]
							unless empty? number [
								repend record ['number tab tab tab tab	number newline]
							]
							unless place/1 = #" " [
								where: find  skip place 5  #" "

        repend record ['postal-code tab tab tab	copy/part place where  newline]

								place: where
							]
							unless empty? place: trim/lines html-to-text place [
								repend record ['place tab tab tab tab 	place newline]
							]
						]
					]
					"Telefoon:" [

      unless #{C2} = to-binary trim/lines html-to-text form-html/with get-node 
      item/childs/2 [pretty?: yes] [
							repend record

        ['phones tab tab tab tab	trim get-node item/childs/2/childs/text/prop/value 
         newline]
						]
					]
					"Website:" [

      if all [get-node item/childs/2/childs/1  get-node item/childs/2/childs/1/childs/1] 
      [
							repend record

        ['websites tab tab tab		trim get-node item/childs/2/childs/a/childs/text/prop/value 
         newline]
						]
					]
					"E-mail:" [

      if all [get-node item/childs/2/childs/1  get-node item/childs/2/childs/1/childs/1] 
      [
							repend record

        ['mail-addresses tab tab	trim/all get-node item/childs/2/childs/a/childs/text/prop/value 
         newline]
						]
					]
					"Profiel:" [

      unless #{C2} = to-binary trim/lines html-to-text form-html/with get-node 
      item/childs/2 [pretty?: yes] [
							repend record [
								'description newline
									tab replace/all

          trim html-to-text form-html/with get-node item/childs/2 [pretty?: 
          yes]
										"^/" "^/^-"
									newline
							]
						]
					]
				][
					print ["Onbekend veld: " type]
				]
			]
			write rejoin [%data/
				replace/all replace/all replace/all any [short-name name]
					#" " #"-"
					#"/" #"-"
					#"." ""
				%.txt
			] record
		]
	]
]
Endo:
17-Oct-2012
I've setup a new Cheyenne (r179) with html-008.r included, playing 
with html dialect.
MaxV:
6-Nov-2012
However if you have trouble with more "classic" distro, let me know, 
so I'll correct the installer packages. See also this: 
http://rebol2.blogspot.it/2012/09/linux-packages.html
afsanehsamim:
16-Nov-2012
guys ,i explained my mini project in database and game room ...they 
suggest me this room ! plz help me . my project is about one crossword 
which should show on web page !  i created html form and cgi file 
... when user enter value and press submitt it should save in database 
! my problem is i can not save value from form into database(MYSQL)... 
i am using mysql driver...i can make connectivity and retrieve data 
but i ca not save values ! plz guide me ,i do not have experience 
in REBOL... :(
Andreas:
16-Nov-2012
Basically, you create an HTML file and put it on your webserver. 
Let's call it "form.html":


<form action="form.cgi"><input type="text" name="word"><input type="submit"></form>


Then you create a REBOL CGI matching the "action" used above, so 
"form.cgi", and also put it on your webserver:

#!/usr/local/bin/rebol278 -cs
REBOL []
cgi-values: construct decode-cgi system/options/cgi/query-string


;; Now you can access the "word" value submitted via the HTML form
;; as cgi-values/word.

;; Let's echo the value back to the user, as an example:
print rejoin [
  "Content-type: text/html" crlf
  crlf
  cgi-values/word
]
BrianH:
23-Nov-2012
show
 in this case means formatting your own HTML.
Ladislav:
23-Nov-2012
then you may need some formatting like:

print "<table>"
foreach row result [print "tr" foreach cell row [print "td" ...

, i.e. print out a HTML table specification
MaxV:
24-Dec-2012
Done with linux, see: http://rebol2.blogspot.it/2012/12/rebol-draw-on-linux.html
Kaj:
2-Jan-2013
By the way, your first example starts with garbled HTML
Sunanda:
16-Mar-2013
Here's a starting point for such an article.....
   http://www.rebol.com/docs/expert-intro.html
caelum:
19-Mar-2013
I found the 'Rebol for Dummies' book quite disappointing for my personal 
use, but it might be good as a course book though. It certainly covers 
a lot of ground quickly. I personally preferred Nick's video series 
http://re-bol.com/rebol.html.Somehow more interesting and easier 
to digest. Just my personal experience.
SWhite:
4-Apr-2013
OK, now I know the answer and it is time to confess it.  I have complained 
a number of times about how obscure REBOL is (to me) and how I sometimes 
can look at ONE LINE of code and not understand it. I wonder, is 
it REBOL, or is it me.   Well, I am learning python for work, and 
I want to replce the html lt and gt symbols with their character 
entities or whatever they are called, I found a sample on the internet, 
wrote up a test program, copied the sample, and it worked.  So here 
I am looking at ONE LINE of python code and I don't understand how 
it works.  So, the answer to, is it REBOL or is it me, is, IT'S ME. 
 I think I'm in the wrong line of work.
MaxV:
15-May-2013
Hello, someone needs Sublime Text 2 editor  syntax highlight file, 
see http://rebol.informe.com/forum/rebol-2-f8/sublime-text-2-t59.html
Do you know where he may find it?
Geomol:
23-May-2013
The RebXML format is described here:
http://www.fys.ku.dk/~niclasen/rebxml/rebxml-spec.html
Kees:
17-Jul-2013
It does, both in R2 as in R3, this is from http://www.rebol.com/r3/docs/guide/code-loops.html#section-3
DideC:
17-Jul-2013
You may read the series page http://www.rebol.com/docs/core23/rebolcore-6.html
Arnold:
2-Aug-2013
To find source codes, you will need to search with google or so. 
"blowfish source code c" first result looks promising http://www.schneier.com/blowfish-download.html
Group: Databases ... group to discuss various database issues and drivers [web-public]
Andreas:
16-Nov-2012
i suggest to get the html+cgi echoing working first, then getting 
a minimal script that inserts a value into your database working, 
and then putting the two pieces together by extending your "echo" 
cgi to insert into the database
TomBon:
12-Dec-2012
crawled html/mime embedded documents/images etc. as plain compressed 
source (avg. 25kb) and 14 searchable metafields (ngram) to train 
different NN types for pattern recognition.
Group: #Red Docs ... How should Red be documented [web-public]
james_nak:
3-Dec-2012
Yes Ladislav, I have and that's a good one. I guess parse requires 
some more parsing. Parse is one of the hardest parts of rebol for 
me so when I say it's all over the place it's that different people 
write different things about how to use it. I mean, it seems like 
someone could write an entire book on it for guys like me. One place 
I continue to go to is Brett's http://www.codeconscious.com/rebol/parse-tutorial.html
but when it comes to dialects

That all said, perhaps this leads us to documentation that is very 
tutorially-oriented. Thank you for your response, Ladisalv.
DocKimbel:
3-Dec-2012
We might have another good alternative option to the wiki (maybe 
easier and more flexible): use a github repo for all the    documentation 
pages in makedoc format, and have external export batch script to 
export them in HTML, PDF or whatever format.
AdrianS:
4-Dec-2012
GitHub Pages also serves up static html/css/js. Still, if you couldn't 
use any server-side scripting, you'd need to pre-generate the html 
and I guess you wouldn't want to do that.
DocKimbel:
4-Dec-2012
Pre-generated HTML: I certainly do want that. I have already a static 
server, so I don't need GitHub Pages so far.
DocKimbel:
4-Dec-2012
Gregg: documenting the API (the Red words) is the easy part. The 
content could (should?) be extracted from the docstrings in boot.red 
(I haven't add any so far, contributions are welcome).


The level of info displayed by the clojuredocs quickref is fine to 
me, I have used similar approach in the past for documenting the 
RSP API: 

http://cheyenne-server.org/docs/rsp-api.html
Group: !REBOL3 ... General discussion about REBOL 3 [web-public]
Scot:
14-Dec-2012
I want to start an Apple iOS group ASAP.  I have some thoughts about 
the approach for iOS Apps.  Certainly I know what our research team 
does:
1.  Write HTML, CSS,  JQuery Mobile Apps in TextMate environment.
2.  Provision them for iPod, iPhone, iPad using PhoneGap
3.  Finish development in XCode IDE.

4.  Directly install them in up to 100 devices (Apple Developer Agreement).
5.  Use our Apps in a classroom session or two.
6.  Make modifications and update them on all the devices.
7.  Run a few more classroom sessions
8.  Make more modifications.

This is a design research approach we use for our studies.
Scot:
17-Dec-2012
Useless to us.  We'll stick with Javascript/HTML/CSS/Java/JSON if 
we can't use a REBOL dialect for GUI's.
Henrik:
22-Dec-2012
Scot, MDP is string parsed and markdown is string parsed as well. 
MDP actually works by first converting line by line into another 
dialect, which then is parsed to HTML.
Scot:
22-Dec-2012
I've spent a lot of time with MDP, written a whole distributed application 
with pages based upon the principles of MDP.  The biggest mess in 
MDP is the need to make HTML pages, which is a fossil and pretty 
awful, but widespread.  People need HTML so we output that.  People 
may want PDF, or RTF or Postscript or MarkDown, or whatever.  Those 
parts will always be a mess because the formats of all those outputs 
are a mess.
Henrik:
22-Dec-2012
I've also spent quite a lot of time with MDP as well building now 
around 2 megabytes of manuals with it, and I spent some time adding 
new features to it. I wanted to add a glossary feature, but it's 
quite strained with what we can do now. The HTML part is not so bad. 
The line parser is much worse, both because we are running out of 
space for sensible inline rules (which all are one-char and markdown 
doesn't have this limitation), and the code itself is not very well 
organized.
Chris:
22-Dec-2012
Scot, on generation: Gabriele's FSM emitters (particularly for HTML) 
are the most elegant solution to this I've seen. I use it often.
GrahamC:
9-Jan-2013
>> write http://www.rebol.com/index.html[ HEAD ]
== [%/index.html 7407 none]
GrahamC:
9-Jan-2013
since this is the trace

HEAD /index.html HTTP/1.0
Accept: */*
Accept-Charset: utf-8
Host: www.rebol.com
User-Agent: REBOL

HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2013 09:03:18 GMT
Server: Apache
Last-Modified: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 07:02:21 GMT
Accept-Ranges: bytes
Content-Type: text/html
Via: 1.1 BC5-ACLD
Content-Length: 7407
Connection: close
GrahamC:
9-Jan-2013
>> write http://www.rebol.com/index.html[ HEAD ]
make object! [
    name: none
    size: none
    date: none
    type: 'file
    response-line: "HTTP/1.1 200 OK"
    response-parsed: none
    headers: make object! [
        Content-Length: "7407"
        Transfer-Encoding: none
        Last-Modified: "Sat, 15 Dec 2012 07:02:21 GMT"
        Date: "Wed, 09 Jan 2013 09:24:53 GMT"
        Server: "Apache"
        Accept-Ranges: "bytes"
        Content-Type: "text/html"
        Via: "1.1 BC5-ACLD"
        Connection: "close"
    ]
]
GrahamC:
10-Jan-2013
Gab, it says here that http 1.1 is partially supported http://www.rebol.net/docs/prot-http.html
 but you still pass 1.0
GrahamC:
11-Jan-2013
Were they chosen for html use?
Chris:
16-Jan-2013
Not at all. Particularly if you consider the HTML form -- GET sends 
parameters in the URL, POST sends parameters in the body. And consider 
the usage of each: GET is usually some type of search/filter facility, 
POST is sending data to be stored.
Bo:
26-Feb-2013
Old Bug, New Bug, Red Bug, Blue Bug?


I'm using the ARM build from rebolsource.net and getting the following 
unexpected behavior:

>> template: read %template.html


It outputs template as if it was a binary file, although it is plain 
text.

The build date on the package was 24-Jan-2013.
BrianH:
11-Mar-2013
Thanks, I'll fix that. Originally it was HTML entities, but something 
about CC's update process converts those entities to their original 
characters, which corrupted the code examples. I started using blah 
before I switched to bang.
MaxV:
25-Mar-2013
Hello, here you can find a user that have difficulties to build Rebol3 
on Solaris, please mayyou help him?

http://rebol.informe.com/forum/rebol-3-f9/building-rebol-r3-on-solaris-t40.html
Group: !R3 Building and Porting ... [web-public]
Oldes:
19-Dec-2012
Btw.. with High Resolution Displays coming these days, the HW powered 
GUI is a must. The CPU rendering will be just for making high quality 
assets for GPU. http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Intel-Higher-Resolution-Displays-Coming,15329.html
Group: Community ... discussion about Rebol/Rebol-related communities [web-public]
Andreas:
31-Dec-2012
I took the liberty of taking AdrianS's posting, reformatted it to 
Markdown (only minimal changes necessary), added IRC, reordered things 
slightly, and updated two few counts.

Here's a rendering of this updated Markdown document to HTML:
http://bolka.at/2012/rebol3/pages/community-radar.html

Here's the Markdown source of the updated document:
http://bolka.at/2012/rebol3/pages/community-radar.mkd
Cyphre:
30-May-2013
Well, if you want to use 'web app'  which tries a bit to not  resemble 
just "HTML page" you have to always use the most updated browsers. 
I think this rule will hold for very long time :-)
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