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Group: #Red ... Red language group [web-public] | ||
Rebolek: 14-Jun-2012 | I've tried running Red/System on my Synology USBstation 2 and hello-world.reds works without problem. Great! Howerev, when I tried to run Kai's C-linrary (or other extensions), I ended up with this error: | |
Gerard: 14-Jun-2012 | Recently tried to run the Hello World on my Android based Galaxy Samsung Tab 10 but after seeing the "executing ..." msg. Nothing appeared. I will try to look at what could be done but I suspect I also have to first learn a bit more about Android and my machine to help ... I'm very patient and began to read about the ARM. and Android itself. What an evolving world we live in ... | |
Andreas: 17-Jun-2012 | a "hello world!" written in and compiled by red/system running on a raspberry pi: [pi-:-raspberrypi]:~$ ./hello-reds.arm hello from red/system! ([pi-:-raspberrypi]:~$ uname -a Linux raspberrypi 3.1.9+ #90 Wed Apr 18 18:23:05 BST 2012 armv6l GNU/Linux) | |
Pekr: 27-Jun-2012 | Hello Doc - how are you doing, lately? Still busy with the non-red related contract? :-) | |
PeterWood: 19-Aug-2012 | Or for me on OS X : Schulz:Red peter$ rebol -qs red-system/rsc.r red-system/tests/hello.reds Cannot access source file: red-system/tests/hello.reds | |
PeterWood: 19-Aug-2012 | If you login to red-system dir compiling tests/hello.reds will work. | |
DocKimbel: 4-Sep-2012 | I should be able to make a "hello word" script in Red in a few days. I still have to make some design decision wrt Unicode internal handling, that's really a complex part. | |
DocKimbel: 4-Sep-2012 | So far, my short-list of encodings to support are UTF-8 and UTF-16LE. UTF-32 might be needed at some point in the future, but for now, I'm not aware of any system that uses it? The Unicode standard by itself is not the problem (having just one encoding would have helped, though). The issue lies in different OSes supporting different encodings, so it makes the choice for an internal x-platform encoding hard. It's a matter of Red internal trade-offs, so I need to study the possible internal resources usage for each one and decide which one is the more appropriate. So far, I was inclined to support both UTF-8 and UTF-16LE fully, but I'm not sure yet that's the best choice. To avoid surprizing users with inconsistent string operation performances, I thought to give users explicit control over string format, if they need such control (by default, Red would handle all automatically internally). For example, on Windows:: s: "hello" ;-- UTF-8 literal string print s ;-- string converted to UCS2 for printing through win32 API write %file s ;-- string converted back to UTF-8 set-modes s 'encoding 'UTF-16 ;-- user deciding on format or s/encoding: 'UTF-16 print length? s ;-- Length? then runs in O(1), no surprize. Supporting ANSI as internal encoding seems useless, being able to just export/import it should suffice. BTW, Brian, IIRC, OS X relies on UTF-8 internally not UTF-16. | |
Janko: 5-Sep-2012 | Wow!!! awesome .. from print "hello worl" to print "<html>...</html>" to make webapps is not that long way, I was just afraid you would never get to RED, Awesome! | |
DocKimbel: 14-Sep-2012 | If you want to see how the boot.red script is compiled, use: do/args %red.r "-v 2 %red/tests/hello.red" | |
Pekr: 14-Sep-2012 | not trying to panick, maybe downloaded bad branch, but: >> do/args %rsc.r %tests/hello.reds Script: "Red/System compiler wrapper" (none) ** Syntax Error: Invalid word -- <<<<<<< ** Near: (line 2028) <<<<<<< HEAD | |
DocKimbel: 14-Sep-2012 | Here's a more complex example: #define MIN(a b) [ either a < b [a][b] ] #define MAX(a b) [ either a > b [ MIN(p/a p/b) ][p/b] ] p: "Hello" print MAX(2 1) outputs: H | |
DocKimbel: 15-Sep-2012 | Thanks Kaj, now you can see how all pieces start fitting together. Say hello to Peter for me, tell him, I'm sorry we still don't support FreeBSD, but I'm looking forward to fix that next time I'll meet with him. ;-) | |
DocKimbel: 15-Sep-2012 | # rebol -qw red.r %red/tests/hello.red -= Red Compiler =- Compiling red/tests/hello.red ... ...compilation time: 30 ms Compiling to native code... ...compilation time: 1282 ms ...linking time: 25 ms ...output file size: 30912 bytes # ./hello 42 | |
Kaj: 15-Sep-2012 | hello is still out of memory on Syllable Server, at a slightly changed address | |
DocKimbel: 17-Sep-2012 | Ok, I've added (not pushed yet) a new directive for including Red/System libs outside of 'red context. Example: #system-include [%tests/hello.reds] will load and compile the hello.reds script. Notice that relative include paths are resolved from Red/System root folder (%Red/red-system/). Does that cover your need Kaj? | |
DocKimbel: 25-Sep-2012 | Red Unicode printing support extended to all Unix platforms: http://static.red-lang.org/hello_unicode2.png | |
DocKimbel: 26-Sep-2012 | And now Red speaks Chinese too: http://static.red-lang.org/hello_unicode3.png | |
GrahamC: 26-Sep-2012 | Hello World in Chinese should probably be .. world hello and not hello world | |
Jerry: 26-Sep-2012 | Graham is right, In Chinese, "World Hello" is better than "Hello World". You can change it if you want, Doc. :-) But I saw other langauge, such as Falcon, use "Hello World" in Chinese to demo their unicode support. | |
Pekr: 26-Sep-2012 | btw - Czeh version of hello world does not display any character correctly :-) | |
PeterWood: 26-Sep-2012 | If anybody can provide the UTF-8 chars (hex values) for Hello World in Czech. I'll run a test. | |
Jerry: 26-Sep-2012 | Hello in many languages http://www.omniglot.com/language/phrases/hello.htm | |
DocKimbel: 26-Sep-2012 | Hello in Klingon: nuqneH (What do you want?) - used when confronted by another | |
DocKimbel: 26-Sep-2012 | Can you paste me your DOS output of the hello script I've provided there? | |
DocKimbel: 26-Sep-2012 | See: http://static.red-lang.org/hello_unicode.png | |
Andreas: 26-Sep-2012 | I noticed that the red/tests/hello.red file is UTF-8 with a BOM -- I'd suggest dropping the BOM, as using a BOM with UTF8 is not recommended. | |
DanielN: 29-Sep-2012 | Hello, I want to use a local database whith no concurency for aor the moment I see ndb indexed btree from Dockimbel, another alternative is possible and what ca be used with the future red ? | |
DocKimbel: 14-Oct-2012 | Hello-GTK-world is still segfaulting on my Debian-armel image on QEMU. I will investigate that tomorrow. | |
DocKimbel: 15-Oct-2012 | Kaj: for debugging the GTK issue, we need a minimalistic app. Could you re-implement the hello-GTK-world using only direct GTK calls and not going through typed functions? We could at least see if it's related to GTK calls or not. | |
Arnold: 18-Oct-2012 | Oh the Hello World looks very much better than is shown above. Still unreadable by me but I recognise different charactersets. | |
Kaj: 19-Oct-2012 | (dressed-up-hello-GTK-world:4515): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_container_add: assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed | |
BrianH: 20-Oct-2012 | Here are block-embedded multi-scripts: [rebol [] print "hello world"] [red [] print "hello world"] | |
BrianH: 20-Oct-2012 | Here are length-specified multi-scripts (which can be faster at times): rebol [length: 19] print "hello world" red [length: 19] print "hello world" | |
Pekr: 23-Oct-2012 | as I think about it, it would be best to have some kind of interpreter/library, which would download just once, and then only the app package would be downloaded. But that's just most probably prohibited by mobile platforms. Having just each "hello world" app to take 60KB etc. is a bit too much .... | |
DocKimbel: 23-Oct-2012 | Having just each hello world" app to take 60KB etc. is a bit too much ...." You're not having the right metrics in mind. What matters is not the size of a "Hello World" app, but size of a real app. A typical real app, like with REBOL + /Encap, will be just a few dozens KB bigger than the runtime library. So, most Red apps will be less than 500KB and still less than 1MB for really big ones (not counting additional resources data). A "Hello World" using Appcelerator (one of the leader in Android dev tools market) is around 600KB. Also have a look at the size of apps installed on your Android devices, most of them are bigger than the typical apps size Red will produce. If you want to compare with app size that Java can produce, take Red/System in order to compare apples to apples. Anyway, Java apps are cheated, because the JVM is built in Android. I don't remember seeing any way to install a shared library across different apps on Android, but maybe there's a way? | |
Pekr: 23-Oct-2012 | Ah, that's it, stupid me - it makes sense. All the wonder was, because I compared it to previous hello world, which was done using Red/System though ... | |
DanielN: 26-Oct-2012 | -= Red/System Compiler =- Compiling RedGTK/examples/hello-GTK-world.reds ... *** Compilation Error: alias name already defined as: [struct! [ item [c-string!] ]] *** in file: %runtime/common.reds *** at line: 62 *** near: [ str-array!: alias struct! [ item [c-string!] ] typed-value!: alias struct! [ type [integer!] value [integer!] _padding [integer!] ] ] | |
DanielN: 26-Oct-2012 | Thanks Kaj ! I have My "Hello Red/system GTK+Hello World !" :) I have to reed some docs and wait for Red 1.0 .. does it come whit some hight level VID or RedGUI ? | |
Kaj: 26-Oct-2012 | Alvira thinks there's a Trojan in Red/Hello.exe and Red/Fibonacci.exe ( TR/Crypt.XPACK.Gen ) | |
Kaj: 26-Oct-2012 | hello-unicode in MSDOS: | |
Kaj: 26-Oct-2012 | Hello, world! +º+¦ß+û¤ü+Á, +¦¤î¤â+++Á! õ¢áÕÑ¢, õ©ûþòî Dobr+¢ den sv-øte | |
Kaj: 26-Oct-2012 | Only RedSystem/empty returns to prompt. Rest hangs (hello, Fibonacci, Mandelbrot) | |
DocKimbel: 27-Oct-2012 | hello-unicode in MSDOS: has he switched the DOS console to Consolas font? | |
Pekr: 1-Nov-2012 | hello-unicode give incorrect output ... | |
Kaj: 1-Nov-2012 | hello-Unicode is because the program source is UTF-8 instead of UTF-16 | |
Kaj: 1-Nov-2012 | hello-Unicode is a Red/System program, so the Unicode printing is straight from the source code, without awareness | |
james_nak: 1-Nov-2012 | OK, I just installed win 8 Pro 32 on one of my machines and I downloaded the v0.3.0-0 zip and ran the run-all.r file. Perhaps that's not the right thing to do since it printed "running lexer-test" and then proceeded to lock up my machine. I can't even ctrl-alt-del. Let me know how you would recommend me testing Red since I may be the first to have win 8 among us but the last to really use Red passed the original "let's see if I can see 'hello world' on my Droid" a few months back :-) | |
DocKimbel: 17-Dec-2012 | New features of the day: - SWITCH implemented (/default refinement supported) - CASE implemented (/all refinement supported) - FIND and SELECT extended to handle datatype values matching. Example: find ["hello" 2 red] integer! == [2 red] | |
DocKimbel: 7-Jan-2013 | A possible cause of the hello app not working on Android anymore is a mismatch between the output encoding of Red and the expected one from the Java wrapper. I will check that when I'll start working fully on the Android port. | |
Pekr: 5-Mar-2013 | Bo - some simple step-by step is in ititial distro Doc. Might be copied on such a page ... at least hello world could be done that way :-) | |
DocKimbel: 8-Mar-2013 | Got multiline strings LOADing working, but now I need to find a way to efficiently (if possible) output the right delimiters: probe load { { Hello World! } } == [" Hello World! "] | |
DocKimbel: 9-Mar-2013 | red>> a: %dev == %dev red>> type? a == file! red>> length? a == 3 red>> append a %/red/hello.red == %dev/red/hello.red red>> length? a == 17 red>> find a slash == %/red/hello.red red>> index? find a slash == 4 red>> form a == "dev/red/hello.red" red>> mold a == "%dev/red/hello.red" red>> a/1 == #"d" red>> last a == #"d" red>> a/5: #"R" == #"R" red>> a == %dev/Red/hello.red | |
Marco: 10-Mar-2013 | I suggest to change the relaive part of "Readme.md" to: Running the Red/System hello script ------------------------ 1. From the REBOL console type: `call/show ""` ; (type this only once to fix Rebol 2 bug) `change-dir %red-system/` 2. Type: `do/args %rsc.r "%tests/hello.reds"` the compilation process should finish with a `...output file size` message. 3. The resulting binary is in `red-system/builds/`, go try it! type (on Windows): `call/wait/shell/console %builds/hello.exe` | |
Kaj: 29-Mar-2013 | Try VIEW ["Hello" button "OK" [quit]] | |
DocKimbel: 11-Apr-2013 | So you just compiled tests/hello.red or did you use a custom script? | |
Endo: 11-Apr-2013 | my script is: Red [ ] print "hello" | |
Gregg: 12-Apr-2013 | ; JS-like MAP. The order of args to the function is a bit odd, but is set ; up that way because we always want at least the value (if your func takes ; only one arg), the next most useful arg is the index, as you may display ; progress, and the series is there to give you complete control and match ; how JS does it. Now, should the series value be passed as the head of the ; series, or the current index, using AT? map-js: func [ "Evaluates a function for each value(s) in a series and returns the results." series [series!] fn [function!] "Function to perform on each value; called with value, index, and series args" /only "Insert block types as single values" /skip "Treat the series as fixed size records" size [integer!] ][ collect [ repeat i length? series [ ; use FORSKIP if we want to support /SKIP. keep/only fn series/:i :i :series ; :size ? ] ] ] ;res: map-js [1 2 3 a b c #d #e #f] :form ;res: map-js [1 2 3 a b c #d #e #f] func [v i] [reduce [i v]] ;res: map-js [1 2 3 a b c #d #e #f] func [v i s] [reduce [i v s]] ;res: map-js "Hello World!" func [v i s] [pick s i] | |
Andreas: 23-Apr-2013 | As in: rebol2 -qsc rsc.r -o hello tests/hello.reds | |
Pekr: 24-Apr-2013 | I would prefer it would not exist. I find "do/args %rsc.r "-v 5 %tests/hello.reds"" still being rather cryptic and I hope everything gets replaced, once we get red.exe? | |
Kaj: 8-May-2013 | HELLO and INCREMENT work, the others segfault | |
GrahamC: 8-May-2013 | I was looking for hello and increment in the windows folder | |
DocKimbel: 11-May-2013 | Untested, but should work: Red [ ] #system-global [ launch: does [#call [main]] #export [launch] ] main: does [ print "Hello Red World!" ] | |
Pekr: 14-May-2013 | btw - -= Red Compiler =- Compiling /C/!rebol/!red/red/red/tests/hello.red ... *** Compilation Error: comp-literal: unsupported type 14-May-2013/13:24:25+2:00 *** in file: %/C/!rebol/!red/red/red/tests/hello.red *** near: [14-May-2013/13:24:25+2:00] | |
DocKimbel: 15-May-2013 | I've ported the JNI low-level hello example to Red, see how it looks now: https://github.com/dockimbel/Red/blob/dyn-lib-emitter/red/bridges/java/hello.red | |
DocKimbel: 8-Jun-2013 | First HelloWorld Android app done with Red: http://static.red-lang.org/hello.apk | |
DocKimbel: 9-Jun-2013 | Pekr: you can test it here: https://www.manymo.com/emulators But the Hello app exits immediatly, not sure it's a bug or related to their emulator. | |
Pekr: 9-Jun-2013 | It writes - unfortunatelly, hello has stopped ... | |
Group: Announce ... Announcements only - use Ann-reply to chat [web-public] | ||
Arnold: 4-Jul-2012 | Hello I have a new version 1.05 'ready'. Added languages and a preferences panel. Only the save option to save preferences I did not fill in this one, because first of all location of this file and secondly I had doubts if it is needed. http://www.arnoldvanhofwegen.com/stuff/mirror.zip It contains 3 files. | |
MaxV: 10-Jul-2012 | Hello everybody: I'm working on rebol2.blogspot.com (take a look!). If you want to write an article on Rebol, send me an in email with the article and I'll publish it. If you want to see a topic discussed, send me an email with a request, and I'll try to write about it. My email is [maxint-:-tiscali-:-it] | |
MaxV: 5-Sep-2012 | Hello, I'm writing a new version of Rebolide, with color syntax higlithing, using another rebol script (area-tc) with perfect syntax higlithing. I put the new rebolide on github: https://gist.github.com/3635812 , since github works great with Rebol. However I'm not good as you and I can't understand how make this new rebolide similar to the old one, see the old one on: http://www.rebol.org/view-script.r?script=rebolide.r My main concern at the moment is to create button to insert code in the main area, cut and copy works, but the functions button like the old one no. May you help me? | |
Andreas: 7-Jan-2013 | I posted a short primer for CGI with current Rebol 3 releases as answer to a question on Stack Overflow: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14123618/how-to-write-a-hello-world-cgi-with-rebol-3 If you want to play with R3 and CGI but don't know how, that should get you started. | |
Kaj: 22-Jan-2013 | Hello World is: | |
Kaj: 22-Jan-2013 | #include %GTK.red view ["Hello, Red GTK+ world!"] | |
Kaj: 22-Jan-2013 | #include %GTK.reds with gtk [view label "Hello, Red/System GTK+ world!"] | |
Kaj: 22-Jan-2013 | view/title ["Hello, Red GTK+ world!"] "Title" | |
MaxV: 25-Jan-2013 | Hello, now http://rebol.informe.com/portal.htmlworks weel, I''m including all Rebol wiki around the web in it. So with just one account, you can: - improve wiki -discuss of rebol on forum - upload images on Gallery -... and much more Take a look and try... | |
MaxV: 30-Jan-2013 | Hello, now on http://rebol.informe.comthere is a wiki containing Rebol 2 and Rebol 3 (GitHub) wikis. You are welcome to contribute! If you are curious on in the forum you'll find the scripts to upload automatically all words descriptions in a wiki. | |
MaxV: 22-Apr-2013 | Hello, I started a wiki about only the Rebol 3 source: https://github.com/angerangel/r3bazaar/wiki/Source-explained , may you help me? ;-) | |
Kaj: 12-May-2013 | Here's an example of a session: r3 >> import %hello-REBOL-3-extension.dll >> hello Hello Red REBOL extension! | |
Kaj: 7-Jul-2013 | I'm happy to announce that Doc and I got the first Red/System kernel driver working, for Windows. This is Doc's second kernel driver, and my first, and also my first real Windows program, so it took a few weeks to figure it out. This new ability of Red is sponsored by Respectech. Our test driver just loads and prints a Hello World style message that a kernel debugger can view, but I will be developing the driver into the functionality we need for our Respectech project. I will post the code of the test driver in the Red group. | |
Kaj: 7-Jul-2013 | You will get a driver.sys file that you can install, start, query and remove like this, from a Windows account with administrative rights: sc create hello-Red type= kernel binPath= C:\full\path\to\driver.sys sc qc hello-Red sc start hello-Red sc query hello-Red sc delete hello-Red | |
Kaj: 10-Jul-2013 | Now that generation of shared libraries and drivers is available in Red's mainline, I have extended my build script to build libraries and drivers. I have added examples of a Windows kernel driver and libraries for R3 extensions in both Red/System and Red to the downloads repository mentioned above. The R3 extensions are available for all platforms to test, but the Windows kernel driver is here, as hello-kernel-driver.sys: http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/Red-test/dir?ci=tip&name=MSDOS/RedSystem See above how to start the driver. Instructions for using the R3 extensions are in the headers of the source code: http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/Red-REBOL-3/dir?ci=tip&name=examples | |
Kaj: 13-Jul-2013 | I have extended the Red/System null driver for the Windows kernel into a null mini-filter driver. It now registers itself as a mini-filter and imports functions not only from the kernel, but also from the FilterManager driver, so it is now in a hierarchy of drivers. It now responds to a stop command, so you can stop running the driver like this: sc stop hello-Red I will set up a new repository later to publish the Windows kernel and FilterManager bindings and examples. | |
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Arnold: 19-Oct-2012 | Kaj, Installing relevant libraries? So how do I get dyld: Library not loaded: /usr/lib/libgthread-2.0.dylib for RedSystem/hello-GTK-world | |
Gregg: 4-Dec-2012 | Kaj, do you have specific instructions for running test apps? e.g., for Red/System on Windows, should all GTK stuff work, or does it require other installations? Basic MS DOS Red tests ran fine here. \Red(System) Testing\MSDOS\Red>hello Hello, world! ?a??e, ??sµe! ??, ?? Dobry den svete \Red(System) Testing\MSDOS\Red>Fibonacci.exe Fibonacci 40: 102334155 | |
sqlab: 26-Feb-2013 | Kaj, I deleted all files and subvols created by fossil and run download.r again. The probem is not only with executable files, but with all files simple as containing just "Hello". write %test.txt "Hello" has the same effect. | |
Kaj: 26-Feb-2013 | What effect with write %test.txt "Hello" do you mean | |
Kaj: 5-Apr-2013 | What do you mean by the originally posted test? The http://sidl.fr/red/hello download from Doc's blog is gone | |
Group: Rebol School ... REBOL School [web-public] | ||
james_nak: 7-May-2012 | update-window: func [ttesto-id] [ testo-id/text: to-string ttesto-id show testo-id ] view layout [ testo-id: h2 "hello" [] button {test} [update-window {world}] ] | |
james_nak: 9-May-2012 | Giuseppe, you can experiment by creating your gui code as a block and then "do" it. Then view it. a: [layout [button "hi" [print "hello"]]] b: do a view b | |
JohnM: 14-May-2012 | Hello, all. I am new to REBOL4 and while having followed Lava to REBOL and looked through tutorials every year once a year for more than 10 years I have only recently began making an actual REBOL script. | |
BrianH: 11-Aug-2012 | You could reduce the compressed size of a string-specific RLE by putting runs of singletons into strings, like this: >> rle "Hello World!" == ["He" 2 #"l" "o World!"] | |
Marco: 16-Sep-2012 | ok it seems to work. it becomes: integer-address: get-address "hello" ; function courtesy of Anton Rolls pointer: make-LPINT pointer/value: integer-address probe third get-dereferenced-data pointer [l1 [int] l2 [int]] | |
JohnM: 12-Nov-2012 | Hello, all. Back in May I was here asking for lots of help in creating a simple CGI script in REBOL. Wanted to say thanks. It was most appreciated, especially considering how rarely you get new people my questions must have seemed so simple to the point of boring the crap out of all of you hardcore experts. My regular job has insane hours and months pass by in what seems like minutes. The person I was doing it for suddenly had other things come up on his website and business that required attention first so it fell by the wayside. I intend to pick it up where I left off this week during an evening when I have more time. While I had a few minutes I had to send my thanks. And I see REBOL might become open source... good to see it moving forward instead of stagnating. | |
Endo: 11-Dec-2012 | I execute the following line and capture the HTTP packets using Capsa (or wireshark) I don't see any header information in the packets sent: read/custom http://moldibi.com[header "X-hello:1"] but when I run curl with same parameters, I can see the extra header information, curl http://moldibi.com-H "X-hello:1" does it mean I cannot add extra header information using REBOL or am I doing something wrong? (I'm using R2/View) | |
caelum: 27-Feb-2013 | I was wrong. Simple programs like (print "Hello World") compile and execute, but programs with a lot of code compile but produce a series of errors when executed. I noticed a pattern. Wherever a word is not followed by ':' causes errors, examples below. Perhaps it's just this linux version of enface? stylize [ fld80: field 80x28 font-size 17 white ivory center ....... ] produces the error: ** Script Error: stylize has no value ** Near: new-styles: stylize [ fld80: field 80x28 font-size 17 white ivory center fld400: field 400x28 font-size 17 whit... I'll try this on windows when I have the opportunity. | |
MaxV: 15-May-2013 | Hello, someone needs Sublime Text 2 editor syntax highlight file, see http://rebol.informe.com/forum/rebol-2-f8/sublime-text-2-t59.html Do you know where he may find it? | |
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MaxV: 25-Mar-2013 | Hello, here you can find a user that have difficulties to build Rebol3 on Solaris, please mayyou help him? http://rebol.informe.com/forum/rebol-3-f9/building-rebol-r3-on-solaris-t40.html | |
MaxV: 8-Apr-2013 | Hello everybody, after some months using R3GUI I still doesn't realize the causes of the changing syntax from Rebol 2 VID. My impression is that all become very complicated. Now to decide every action you have to put "on-action" or something similar before the action block, before it wasn't needed; but the worst part that all is inside the gob object of the graphical object. This way you have to write very long commands to achieve the most simple tasks (show mybuttob/gob ... mybutton/gob/size). Is it just my impression? Is there any simpler dialect? |
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