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There was a discussion of this somewhere ......REBOL or REBOL2 worlds? 
And a solutiion found. I forget what it was.

The library version of Rebocalc has not been changed for several 
years:

http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/script-history.r?script-name=rebocalc.r
So the issue is a change in behaviour in REBOL/View

Thanks for finding it on RAMBO.

I've updated the script n REBOL.org....Also enabled it to run under 
the plugin:

http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/run-plugin.r?script-name=rebocalc.r

Pretty much any View script should be able to run in the plugin.

REBOL.org doesn't  offer the plugin as a default . The script owner 
has to tell us explicity that it can run under the plugin:

    http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/one-click-submission-help.r?help=plugin

RAMBO ticket #3244
http://www.rebol.net/cgi-bin/rambo.r?id=3244&

On WinXP: With Rebol/View 1.2.57.3.1c & e betas I can no longer demonstrate 
the bug. :-)  The older View 1.2.56.3.1agg9  still crashes at about 
9000 for me.

eg: path-thru http://www.dom.com/cgi.r?hello
;== view-root/public/www.dom.com/cgi.r/hello

eg: path-thru http://www.dom.com/cgi.r?hello
;== view-root/public/www.dom.com/cgi.r_query/hello

About #3626  Quick PATH-THRU patch to handle CGI query strings

I am not sure anymore. :-/ I think the current implementation is 
the most "perfect" one, and it should be left up to developers to 
patch for particular cases.

http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/view-script.r?script=request-dir.r

hi all, I found a nasty surprise in alpha async, at least for me 
it is a nasty surprise:


 http://www.rebol.net/cgi-bin/rambo.r?sort=4&limit=1&cmd=Search&id=&pattern=Read+handler


The behaviour I observed is observable in OpenBSD 3.6 too, Gabriele, 
could you add this note to it?

See http://www.rebol.net/cgi-bin/rambo.r?id=3642&

Gabriele: sorry, can you add to the ticket  {refer also to existing 
ticket "Allow final slash on path - eg. 'hello/" http://www.rebol.net/cgi-bin/rambo.r?id=3637&}

what do you think about http://www.rebol.net/cgi-bin/rambo.r?id=3363&

about: http://www.rebol.net/cgi-bin/rambo.r?id=3363&do you think 
FIND should stay as it is for compatibility? or it's better to change 
it?

a lot of bugs fixed: http://www.rebol.net/cgi-bin/rambo.r?sort=1&limit=2&cmd=Search&id=&pattern=&subject-only=true

http://www.rebol.net/cgi-bin/rambo.r?sort=6&limit=3&cmd=Search&id=&pattern=&subject-only=true

anyone can confirm -258? http://www.rebol.net/cgi-bin/rambo.r?id=-258&

Gabriele re http://www.rebol.net/cgi-bin/rambo.r?id=-258&, perhaps 
can you contact  Giuseppe Chillemi by email to retest with 1.2.114 
.. (looks like he hasn't logged into altme since last december)

Is the Rambo CGI code public ?

TO-TIME with rubbish input, already reported, see -> http://www.rebol.net/cgi-bin/rambo.r?id=3643&

the microwebserver at http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/view-script.r?script=webserver.r
doesn't decode spaces etc so comes a cropper if the file on disk 
has a space in it.

http://www.rebol.com/docs/changes.htmlnot so much on decode-url, 
but decode-cgi yes.

http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/view-script.r?script=dig.r
maybe?

Ah, this looks like a cgi-stype call. i would try --cgi then. it 
should do this "call and get data from stdin".

cgi-stype -> cgi-style

i understand from the webpage that redmon launches the program and 
send it input, just as a webserver does with cgi. then try it from 
the real program, not from the console. i don't know about xp, but 
in win9x console-pipes are pretty broken.

Sorry, no there is not -- not online anyway.

You could download all the scripts and do a search locally with a 
few lines of REBOL code 
http://localhost/cgi-bin/download-librarian.r
(the scripts will all be in the /scripts/ folder)

If you are testing "^/" I would think that you need to use parse/all.


You may find my script helpful for visualising the effect of your 
rules:


http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/documentation.r?script=parse-analysis-view.r

Sadly, it's not usable for CGI :-(

CGI are slow, I'm not sure that you can easily overload a MySQL server 
that way. Did anyone experienced such issues (access deny errors) 
from CGI ?

on cgi this is more annoying; it happened a couple times on the detective 
builder web interface too.

Like Gabriele, I have sometimes error with CGI connecting MySql but 
the server seems to not be loaded.

worked from the console, but I'm not getting in with the cgi program. 
hmmm ....

btw - other site will use rebol plus mysql script in terms of Cron 
job - how should I launch it? I hope they know how to define Cron 
job, as I don't know ... should it be similar to CGI script? Or? 
Simply "cron script" calls something like \path\to\rebol\rebol \path\to\my-script\myscript.r? 
What arguments eventually? -s?

Hi Petr, 


Not sure if this is what you are asking about mySQL "Can I update 
particular fields (columns) in table?" but if you want to change 
a value you use SET.  e.g.  in mySQL protocol format


query: rejoin[{update logons set rs='}keyOrder{' where userName = 
'}cgi/userName{'}]
insert db reduce query

I got following under my Fedora Core 1 Linux, when trying to run 
cgi, with rebpro (when run only in -c mode, I got only REBOL - Security 
violation). Am  I able to call librarie under CGI?

[[root-:-linux] jablunkovsko.cz]# ./index.cgi
REBOL - Security Violation
./index.cgi jablunkovsko.cz]#
** User Error: SQLite near "100": syntax error
** Near: make error! reform ["SQLite" error]

ah, I got syntax error in my sql statement, sorry. Now CGI runs in 
linux console by pressing enter in midnight commander, but not from 
the browser :-)

The browser can only run CGI scripts through a web server, not directly.

you can't call it CGI if you run it from the console can you?

well, I run it from Midnight Commander, maybe it is why I can run 
it .... I just press enter on script. In fact, that is how I verify, 
if the script works at all in CGI mode ...

ah, yes, of course, I just use it for basic check that permissions 
are ok, that my path to interpreter is ok, simply that cgi mode works 
....

maybe I need to configure apache, so it would allow to write files 
in directory other than cgi-bin, dunno ....

it does not respect log?: false, so what to do about it .... I can't 
expect ppl using it for cgi as having other permissins than usual. 
And if it can't be fixed by setting variable, or by some secure [%sqlite.log 
allow] or something like that code, then it is not suitable for cgi

I am going for cgi-based template system, and I expect to use index.cgi 
in my doc-root directory ....

well, it is really handy ... it is SQL, that is importand ... and 
it is completly portable - imagine having small apps, you just need 
cgi-bin site and you can have your rebol app wherever .... no need 
for admin to configure mysql for you, etc., I like it. For small 
to middle stuff it is pretty ok ...

I expected that once I am running rebpro -cs, I can write to files 
too .... I tried to change location of sqlite.log file, to cgi-bin, 
where write should be allowed, but still not luck. Maybe I just need 
specific Apache dir directive setting to allow that? Dunno .... so 
I commented out logging - just 4 lines or so .... I will try Ashley's 
suggestion for setting it to dev\nul ...

it's not rebol that can't write because of -s, it's the apache user 
not having permissions (from what you describe). generally apache 
never has write access to cgi-bin because that's a security risk. 
you can give it access to that single file (still risky) or move 
the file to /var/log for e.g. where apache keeps its other log files.

when I run Apache and my virtual host with SuexecUserGroup jablunkovsko 
jabladm, I can't run CGI at all, and that is strange! All directories 
and files are of owner=jablunkovsko, group=jabladm, including rebpro, 
rsp.cgi

Simple commenting out Suexec directive enables me to run CGI ... 
but still not luck writing to file. My friend suggested me to add 
../db/ dir permissions of 777, to see what happens. Then yes, I can 
see %log.txt generated, owner and group is apache ....

Hmm, I allowed for user apache to log in, I can get to each directory, 
but "cd db" returns "permission denied" - why it is so?

drwxr-sr-x  2 jablunkovsko jabladm  4096 Jan 11  2005 about
drwxr-sr-x  4 jablunkovsko jabladm  4096 Aug  7 16:04 akce
drwxr-sr-x  3 jablunkovsko jabladm  4096 Jul  3 20:03 aktuality
drwxr-xr-x  2 jablunkovsko jabladm  4096 Aug  6 19:01 cgi-bin
drwxr-sr-x  3 jablunkovsko jabladm  4096 Nov  2  2005 COD
drwxr-sr-x  5 jablunkovsko jabladm  4096 Jul  3 20:04 cyklo
drwxr-sr-x  2 jablunkovsko jabladm  4096 Aug  2 00:04 data
drw-rw-rw-  2 jablunkovsko jabladm  4096 Aug  7 14:29 db
drwxr-sr-x  4 jablunkovsko jabladm  4096 Jul  3 20:05 fotogalerie

for other than cgi ...

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=144894

That was mentioned in the blog on Vector.

http://www.rebol.net/cgi-bin/r3blog.r?view=0079

i need help  . how I start   rebol cgi script  http://adam.hosting4clans.net/test.cgi
 - receives error : User Error: REBOL: Cannot connect to X server 
** Near: size-text self

If you are trying to run a CGI, best to do it with Core, not View
Looks like your script *has* started, but fails.

you can't use view as cgi unless x-windows is loaded

yes, there are. But IIRC, in cgi-mode, you would be able to use some 
basic face command functionality, but I am not sure now ....

view functionality for cgi = Command.

I'll have a blog running on peoplecards.ca...and it's blog.r based. 
 I'm just a little confused by 

blog-active: true/false  and the [edit] sequence doesn't seem quite 
right yet. 

This code snippet doesn't seem to redisplay things properly...
	if cgi/save [
		show-blog save-blog cgi/save cgi/date cgi/title cgi/text
	]

I would like you to suggest me some Linux distribution:

Current situation:


I run old Fedora Core 1 linux, so it lacks on security updates. The 
server is used for few domains, it runs apache, old mySQL 3.5.x version, 
glftpd, sendmail (I am used to that). Server has 2 hads. Content 
of server is packed each week via script and copied to other disk.

Objectives:


- need some easy distro, graphical mode installation, which even 
monkey can configure, forget somo guru stuff, target hardening, etc.
- need mysql 5.x family, Apache 2. family

- adding new users/developers by some tool, e.g. webmin - ftp, apache 
domain, webmail (squirrel)

- needs to run rebol in cgi mode, eventual sqlite library compatibility 
welcomed

- kind of easy recovery - install from CD in graphical mode, copy 
configs, reboot, or even better - instasll some kind of loader, map 
to second hd, unpack backup, reboot. Maybe this could be automated?


Of course I have some sympathies already - stay with Fedora? Try 
Ubuntu server edition? Any other suggestion?

Thanks.

Not at all -- there is no limit on size
The largest _single_ script so far is Space game -- at 0.25 meg.

http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/search.r?find=size+%3E+200000
***

If readmail.r is not a single script (ie it is a collection of scripts 
and files), then we can handle it as a package. Again, no limits 
on size:

http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/search.r?filter=type-package

Though many scripts in the Library are just one script file plus 
one documentation file. That doesn't need to be a package:
http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/cpt-recent-docs.r

The documentation can be in Makedoc or Makedoc2 format (plus some 
other formats too, like Nicomdoc)

readmail 4.14.9 & associated helptext has been released (19/11/2006) 
...


For detailed changes http://www.upnaway.com/~philb/philip/pbmail/readmail.ver


readmail.r can be found at .... http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/view-script.r?script=readmail.r
or at http://www.upnaway.com/~philb/philip/pbmail/readmail.r

readmail is also the following formats 

rip format at  .... http://www.upnaway.com/~philb/philip/pbmail/readmail.rip

zip format at  .... http://www.upnaway.com/~philb/philip/pbmail/readmail.zip

the archive contains readmail.r & readmail.html 
(rip = compressed self extracting rebol archive)
 
Any problems let me know

readmail 4.14.14 & associated helptext has been released (29/06/2007) 
...


readmail.r can be found at .... http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/view-script.r?script=readmail.r
or at http://peoplecards.ca/rebol/philb/readmail.r

Any problems let me know

If it can help you, french rebol uses an IMAP server  
http://www.digicamsoft.com/cgi-bin/rebelBB.cgi

Source code at  http://www.digicamsoft.com/cgi-bin/rebelBB.cgi?code=1

Is it related to this problem: http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/ml-display-thread.r?m=rmlNBPC

http://www.rebol.net/cgi-bin/rambo.r?id=3660&

I'm trying to encap my non View applications.. cgi[

This may or may not help:

http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/ml-display-thread.r?m=rmlSJBJ

http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/ml-display-thread.r?m=rmlKQTC

I will try if fast-cgi is fixed for Windows, and if not, then that 
is the exact reason why I want components ...

The memory leak is a known behaviour. The memory allocated is free 
by the GC after a total of 1 - 2 megabytes.

http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/ml-display-thread.r?m=rmlYRJQ

if you do cgi, then you have to launch a new version of the encapped 
script for each cgi ?

In that ramble, I had both - I have a View client app that I want 
to know how to access Uniservices to make the programming easy and 
I also want to know how to Uniserve if I want to run  a CGI that 
connects to a database, does some credit application calculations, 
and emits html to the client.   For this CGI script, I would get 
both performance improvements and an easier programming model ... 
if I am reading the doc correctly.

I think the problems was trying to toy with the URL, rather than 
processing with a .cgi script.

(CGI rather :)

Quick questions about Uniserve:

1) Can you encap it
2) Is the http daemon reliable
3) Does the http handler support CGI/Reblets
4) Can the http daemon listen on multiple ports

cgi: i have read yes, launches external script. i guess that part 
needs little change, encap gets scriptname as arg.

Uniserve under 1.3  when trying to run the CGI example on the main 
http page. .. ## Error in [uniserve] : Async Write phase failed !

If this list doesn't fulfill all your needs, here's the additionnal 
features planned for the 1.0 release :

    * RSP: REBOL Server Pages support.
    * General CGI support (run any CGI script).

    * Chunk-encoding transferts support (streamed data transferts).
    * Standard compression methods support: gzip, deflate, bzip2.

    * Byte-ranges request support (ability to request files in parts 
    and resume broken downloads).

    * mod-rewrite module for powerful request URL transformations (without 
    the regexp complexity!).

    * mod-map-url module for direct URL to REBOL functions or objects 
    mapping.
    * SSL support.
    * Advanced GUI client for local and remote administration.

Mike, I started using Apache and rebol as cgi, this is not suited 
for performances as on every call to the cgi, a new instance of rebol 
is  initialized, run and closed.

I thought about using fastcgi, but never came to a working solution.
Now I use uniserve as main webserver, here some advantages:

-it is fast! On my local machine I get +- 600 req/sec for static 
pages and a max of 160req/sec for dynamic rsp pages

-it is written in rebol, I could easly(less than 10 lines code) add 
a rewrite engine

-child process are persistent, this mean you can keep state of your 
web applications, implement caching, keep a pool of connection to 
databases open (in apache + rebol/cgi you'd have to open and close 
the connection for every request)
-it is written by Dock whom I may be the biggest fan ;-)

btw I'm running an unreleased version (have bought commercial support) 
 that support http 1.1, stuff like If-Modified etc..

If you have more specific questions, I'll be glad to try and answer.

Thanks Will - I have uniserve running and can serve up static webpages 
and the sample cgi that Doc provided. How do I allow RSP or ML to 
be loaded so that a page that uses them does not have to run as CGI 
and flag .rsp or .rhtml files as handled by RSP.

Can any one help me reply to this question (received via REBOL.org's 
feedback form)?
Thanks!
<<
Where can I find more Hex Code like in psg-ay-3-8910-study.r

Please point me to a tool that I can use for development of  Sound 
Code for the AY-3-8910 where I end up with Hex Code that I can then 
load into EPROMs which would drive the AY-3-8910. Thanks for any 
help.

http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/view-script.r?script=psg-ay-3-8910-study.r
>>

You may want to take a look at Matt  Licholai's quick plot dialect 
for your students to use to plot results. The details are at http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/ml-display-thread.r?m=rmlQBZK

Scroll down the thread to find the location of the source.


There is an updated version of his ez-plot example in the script 
library at http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/view-script.r?script=ez-plot.r

http://www.rebol.net/cgi-bin/rambo.r?id=3822&

<<Vista likely to be delayed 3 more months.>>
Five year old mention of REBOL3.0:

http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/ml-display-thread.r?m=rmlGGJS

Anyone had any experience with SQLite (http://www.sqlite.org/), especially 
in conjunction with REBOL? What are the limitations of sqlite3-protocol.r 
(http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/view-script.r?script=sqlite3-protocol.r), 
if any?

I'm interested to see how folks have dealt with issues such as:


 1) Support for datatypes other than TEXT, INTEGER, NUMBER and BLOB?

 2) All tables in one DB, or one table per DB to improve concurrency?

 3) Multi-user access across a network, given this statement from 
 the SQLite website:


SQLite uses reader/writer locks to control access to the database. 
(Under Win95/98/ME which lacks support for reader/writer locks, a 
probabilistic simulation is used instead.) But use caution: this 
locking mechanism might not work correctly if the database file is 
kept on an NFS filesystem. This is because fcntl() file locking is 
broken on many NFS implementations. You should avoid putting SQLite 
database files on NFS if multiple processes might try to access the 
file at the same time. On Windows, Microsoft's documentation says 
that locking may not work under FAT filesystems if you are not running 
the Share.exe daemon. People who have a lot of experience with Windows 
tell me that file locking of network files is very buggy and is not 
dependable. If what they say is true, sharing an SQLite database 
between two or more Windows machines might cause unexpected problems.

Gregg, it's like cgi... unless you've got a web server, cgi is a 
waste of time for you.  If I have a web service that uses a postscript 
dialect to create a postscript image, and then uses ghostscript to 
convert to pdf .. well, that is useful to those running web services, 
but a waste of time for those who don't.

for those of you who missed the announcement, there is now a GLayout 
demo on REBOL.org you can lauch it via:


do http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/download-a-script.r?script-name=glayout-demo.r

new release of liquid: 

to download the file:          http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/download-a-script.r?script-name=liquid.r

for some docs on liquid:   http://www.pointillistic.com/open-REBOL/moa/steel/liquid/index.html

>> do http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/download-a-script.r?script-name=liquid.r
connecting to: www.rebol.org
Script: "LIQUID - core dataflow programming engine." (4-Feb-2007)
** Script Error: slim has no value
** Near: slim/register [

The plugin posts data to a CGI on the proxy and that's how I can 
control the proxy and store requests for repair

The gui has the rooms names as buttons. When you press the room name 
its layout (made of buttons) is shown along with a standard feedback 
layout (a form to send requests via CGI POST)

hum... and the proxy configuration is handled by small cgi requests?

I compress the CGI request so it's not readable

so using cgi for that kind of think (for liquid) is almost impossible, 
cause the viewers need to get the information BACK.

I am at the point of making my liquid net module for liquid, which 
would alleviate the need for a cgi-based system in your setup.

hehe, right now... with the cgi in between, I don't think you'll 
get a lot more out of building it in liquid...

Max posted this to the mailing list about a month ago:

http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/ml-display-message.r?m=rmlFGXC

If you skim the transcript of the Altme group during DevCon2007, 
you can see the frustrations cuuased by the narrow channel between 
the meeting room and the rest of the world.

I think partially because the live feed was not a top priority for 
the organisers

One idea: If 50 people paid USD15 to be Internet Participants at 
 DevCon2008 that could fund a much better channel for them


http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/aga-display-posts.r?post=r3wp500x303

http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/view-script.r?script=crystal-reports.r