AltME groups: search

Saw it in R3 group. It's a nice trick, but don't you think that the 
setword used in such place might confuse readers? (at first look, 
I read [i: 100]...)

I thought this might be an issue. For that, you should use my second, 
favourite search tool - grepWin, from Stefan's Tools.

http://tools.tortoisesvn.net/grepWin.html

Btw, we should take this to another group.

Time is almost ripe for Red school group.

Hey guys was just thinking.  Why not a RED group on linkedin.com? 
 Doc you should start one up.  I'll definatley join and think many 
here would.  Would be another outlet to get more discussion with 
those outside of the usual outlets.

It's low maintemance - more a badge of recognition for the time being 
but since Doc updates the red-lang.lorg site may just as well put 
those posts in the linked group also.

Thanks Doc, I might go ahead and create that group and just do repost 
on RED status updates via Linked in as new news is posted.  Does 
RED have an "official Logo" yet?

ok, ran the example, making screenshot, posting to FB group :-)

The following directories will be made group writable:
...
The following directories will have their group set to admin:
...

Hm, that's a bit disturbing, that it changes my system, isn't it?

Red has some basic multiline IIRC too, in its console ... But surely, 
and maybe your offer could be posted in REBOL3 group here ....

Yes I understand now. Is it possible to have a page linking to all 
the Red repositories? 

Alternative is have a special Red-info group with all of the links 
to various Red sites. The repositories, Issue list, Wish list etc 
etc.

It's in the FB group ....

It's used as my first step to get some code translation on the Perl 
Cookbook (pleac project ). the first exercises are about strings. 
I encoded the small snippets using Rebol 2 already and now I was 
testing the same code for Red and later I 'll attack the same for 
Rebol 3. I'll then submit in the REBOL SCHOOL  or another dedicated 
group this first trial for revision and correction. May be their 
introduction could aslo be revised to ttake into account Rebol and 
/or Red internals subtleties which I don't really master... yet!

That's helpful - it took me a little looking to find and download 
all the libs.  I doubt there are too many people outside our small 
group who would put in the effort.

I committed new test-suite enhancements. You can perform LOG-DIFF 
now to compare test results of different interpreters, e.g. See the 
comparisons in the "Testing and Tools" group.

In case you did not find it in the other group:

New release of Red is here! 0.3.2: REPL release on http://www.red-lang.org/

Carl has mentioned that he is willing to discuss handing over control 
of the Rebol websites, likely to a Rebol community working group. 
 AdrianS (I believe) requested this, and I passed it on to Carl. 
 Just FYI.

Cross-Post from Android group:


New release of Rebol3 with graphics on Android: http://development.saphirion.com/experimental/r3-droid.apk

Changes:
-enable CTO and OTC functions
-fix window offset
-fix image! / loaders pixelformat color order
-fixed close button action (RL_Init failed?)
-improved WAIT
-added clipping(slow atm but works)
-added RESIZE/ROTATE events
-improved JNI calls synchronization
-added native keyboard input
-updated built-in R3-GUI version



Note this release is very early alpha so expect unstable situations 
or even crashes. Feel free to report bugs or any other feedback.


This gets us again one step closer to be able to create Android apps 
with Rebol. Simple, small, fast. :-)

New World alpha at
https://github.com/Geomol/World

Let me know in #World group or private, if there are problems.

I'm happy to announce that Doc and I got the first Red/System kernel 
driver working, for Windows. This is Doc's second kernel driver, 
and my first, and also my first real Windows program, so it took 
a few weeks to figure it out. This new ability of Red is sponsored 
by Respectech. Our test driver just loads and prints a Hello World 
style message that a kernel debugger can view, but I will be developing 
the driver into the functionality we need for our Respectech project. 
I will post the code of the test driver in the Red group.

Hello MaxV: Congrats to your first R3GUI app! ;-) I have some questions/notes 
though:

1. Why one needs to download the two DLL files to get R3B running?? 
(not much user friendly IMO)


2. On your Blog page you say: "First of all there are some bugs, 
most of them depends on R3GUI, for example this one: https://github.com/angerangel/r3bazaar/issues/8"

I bet this is not related to R3GUI at all but more to your R3B build. 
The REQUEST-FILE works without any problems in our Saphirion build 
(and I think also the "official" Carl's build works well but haven't 
tried it). I tried to download and run your R3B binary and I can 
confirm the bug is related only to this version so it would be fair 
enough if you remove your R3GUI blaming from the blog entry if possible. 
I know R3GUi is not perfect so maybe you can just change the blame 
for some other which is really related to the framework. Or better 
feel free to ask any questions in RgGUI group here!

3. I've looked into the EDITOR function code and comparing to the 
R3 editor code (which is still twice as big as the R3GUI version 
- but I don't know if they match the features though) the R3GUI code 
looks much cleaner and abstracted that the R2 style even if you are 
not expereienced writing R3GUI apps. Some notes:


3.1 I'm curious why are you accessing the internal AREA style value 
like face/names/tb or aa/names/tb/state/value? Is that for some reason? 
Why you don't use the AREA directly like:
do-actor/style face 'on-key arg 'area
instead of
do-actor/style face/names/tb 'on-key arg 'text-box

or

write (to-file AA-INFO/OPTIONS/text-edit) get-face aa


write (to-file AA-INFO/OPTIONS/text-edit) aa/names/tb/state/value 


3.2 There is "classic" but anoying bug. If you open file requester 
and close it without selecting a file the editor errors out. (but 
you probably already noticed)


3.3 Would be great if you add keyboard shortcuts. It's easy to add 
them. See the layouts-15.r3 file in R3GUI Saphirion package as an 
example.


3.4 Maybe you could try to write your first R3GUI style - MENU It 
would be handy in the editor(and also in other apps) instead of the 
buttons on top.


Anyway, thanks for promoting R3 and R3GUI. I appreciate all your 
efforts!

(Probably the best group for this discussion is !REBOL3.)

I don't know if I should spam the message into a third group, but 
it's fine with me to move discussion there.

@Arie, wrong group Announce. Bas already pointed this out. (Softwarefreedomday 
is his channel). I do not want to steal viewers from Bas' channel.

The point is I want to use this new channel as a dedicated channel 
for Red (and REBOL) specific video's. I imagine this being used by 
this community to post self-made tutorial video's on. The softwarefreedom 
channel is much broader than this. One does not exclude the other.

@Gregg : I was thinking the group was in search for a new name on 
Youtube, not here, isn't it ?

Gerard, maybe I'm confused. I just meant the group here.

Let's not pollute the group. Continuing privately.

Sorry it was intended for the Red group first but as you see I am 
thinking about every one of you all - keep up the good work everybody 
!

Any insights on establishing .r3 file associations on Windows 7? 
 Am I in the correct group for this?

This is a public group, MaxV! I assume that your action will force 
Carl to change his address and not give it to you...

Regardless if email addresses are munged in the rebol.org archives, 
don't post real email addresses in a web-public group unless you 
are attempting to test spam filters.

(And it does so in R2 as well, so I may have picked the wrong group.)

Question (not sure if this is the right group): do R3 tasks work, 
and if so, hwo to use them?

The multitude of defines for platforms in the same "major" group 
is a bit of an annoyance as well.

Arnold wrote (Red group): "R3 should follow this. " - I guess it 
might make sense to write it as a CC ticket (wish). Otherwise, I 
am neutral on this, not needing a shortcut for quit, but a user poll 
(opinions, please?) my reveal that preferences are against Q being 
a shortcut for QUIT.

MaxV: Alternatively you can post simple example of what you are doing 
in the R3GUI group here so we can see what is your exact problem.

Pekr: I agree the docs are still not corrected...infact it is a mix 
of old(patched) docs from Carl and some '"dev notes" docs from Saphirion 
team who did significant changes.

I started to at least review the Carl's docs to fix the most confusing 
or obsolete parts but I relaized I have not enough time now for that 
instead of programming. 

If you want to help clean-up the documentation or even write new 
document...kind of "User guide" for newcomers I'm offering you a 
help/support with any questions issues etc. during the doc writing, 
just le me know. Also we can discuss the issues in the R3GUI group 
here (I still wonder noone is asking anything...probably noone is 
interested?)

That has been announced in the "Testing and tools" group long time 
ago.

Yes, I have just seen the ANNOUNCE group ! ;-)

Andreas, I have read the REBOL3 group and wrote the request. Then 
read the ANNOUCE one and discovered the answer to my request was 
already there !

Continuing from #Red group. A johnk asked for multi-line source from 
Carl. This is my W_GETS code in World, which has multi-line (blocks 
and long strings). I don't know, if you can use it, as World might 
be different internal:

char prompt_str[]	= "prin system/console/prompt";
char block_str[]	= "prin system/console/block";
char string_str[]	= "prin system/console/string";

#define W_GETS \
	if (W->line_read) { \
		free (W->line_read); \
		W->line_read = NULL; \
	} \
	if (W->top_of_series > W->series_base) { \
		W->stack = W->stack + 1; \
		int trace = W->trace; \
		W->trace = 0; \
		if (*W->top_of_series == BLOCK_BEGIN_T) { \
			tv.newline = 1; \
			do_string (W, block_str); \
			int i; \
			for (i = 0; i < W->top_of_blocks - W->blocks; i++) \
				w_printf ("    "); \
		} else { \
			do_string (W, string_str); \
			w_printf ("    "); \
		} \
		W->trace = trace; \
		W->stack = W->stack - 1; \
	} else { \
		W->top_of_code = W->code - 1; \
		W->top = -1; \
		if (NULL != W->P) \
			printf ("**** W->P != NULL ****\n"); \
		W->stack = W->stack + 1; \
		int trace = W->trace; \
		W->trace = 0; \
		do_string (W, prompt_str); \
		W->trace = trace; \
		W->stack = W->stack - 1; \
	} \
	W->line_read = w_readline (&auto_brackets, &tab_completion); \
	reset_stack (W); \
	if (W->line_read == NULL) throw_error (W, ERRMEM_S); \
	if (W->line_read[0] == KEY_CTRL_D) throw_error (W, QUIT_S); \
	W->save_line_read = W->line_read;

Even my example in the #World group with comments inside parentheses 
together with arguments are ugly to me. I'm wondering, if it's a 
good thing, that you can do such. :)

Josh, there's an r3-gui group that might be a more appropriate place 
to ask.

This is a periodic posting of community links along with activity 
levels for discussion dedicated to Rebol and Rebol-like languages. 
The intent is to bring a dispersed community together by providing 
the current list of places where the community gathers along with 
reasonably accurate activity indicators for each place. This list 
will be posted in each location weekly or bi-weekly so that anyone 
dropping by will not have to look far in order to learn where else 
things are happening.


Currently the activity stats are gathered manually and postings are 
also not automated. This will hopefully change as the requisite scripts 
to scrape and post automatically are developed. This updated list 
will eventually be available at http://rebol.comas the site is cleaned 
up post Rebol open sourcing. 


# Chats

## R3 Chat

This is the primary forum for Rebol 3.0. It runs from any Rebol console 
in a text mode, but a GUI version is planned.
- Run R3, type chat and follow the instructions (all platforms.)

- Type "help" for more information or visit R3 DevBase Chat Forum 
(http://www.rebol.com/r3/devbase/index.html).

- To view public messages from any web browser go to RebDev mobile/phone 
interface (http://www.rebol.net/cgi-bin/rebdev-web.r).

- Problems? Please contact Rebol Technologies at (http://www.rebol.com/cgi-bin/feedback/post2.r).
Activity: 4 messages this month


## Rebol chat on Stack Overflow (http://chat.stackoverflow.com/rooms/291/rebol)

- Note that you will need a reputation of 20 in order to be able 
to post in the chat. 

- You can gain this minimal reputation (essentially a spam filter) 
by participating in the Stack Overflow group of sites. 
Activity: 380 messages this week


## AltME Worlds

A private instant messaging system where rebolers hang out 24/7. 
The current world dedicated to Rebol and Rebol-like language discussion 
is called REBOL4
- Get client at http://www.altme.com/download.html
- connect to the 'rebol-gate' world with user/pass, guest/guest
- request account on REBOL4 world in the REBOL4 request group

Web archives of public groups, first to last in the most active world, 
REBOL4, as well as the dormant world, REBOL3:
REBOL4 (http://www.rebol.org/aga-groups-index.r?world=r4wp)
Activity: 286 posts last 6 days
REBOL3 (http://www.rebol.org/aga-groups-index.r?world=r3wp)


# Forums

## Rebol Facebook group (http://www.facebook.com/groups/rebol)
A new special interest group for Facebook users.
Activity: 26 messages this month



## Rebol Google+ community (https://plus.google.com/communities/100845931109002755204)
Activity: 4 messages this month



## Rebol Google Group (https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!forum/rebol)
Activity: 43 messages this month



## Synapse EHR Rebol Forum (http://synapse-ehr.com/community/forums/rebol.5)
A web-based forum for R2 and R3, provided by Synapse EHR
Activity: 13 messages this month



## RebelBB France (http://www.digicamsoft.com/cgi-bin/rebelBB.cgi)
A simple forum, written in Rebol, for French speakers.
Activity: 140 messages this month


## Nick's Rebol Forum (http://rebolforum.com/index.cgi)

A micro-forum (just a few lines of Rebol) hosted by Nick Antonaccio. 
(Note: the captcha question is first.)
Activity: 79 messages this month


# Q&A (Question & Answer)

## Stack Overflow questions on Rebol
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/rebol
Activity: 219 questions tagged
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/rebol3
Activity: 2 questions tagged

not sure - thought I remembered that the lists are defunct now. The 
Facebook spot is just a group - is there a mailing list somewhere 
there as well?

GrahamC, Ladislav: are you ok with this group becoming web-public 
as is?

(For the record: I am ok with it.)

Group is now web public.

wrong group... ugh.

There's already an optional "see also" header, eg:

http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/view-script.r?script=ascii-chart.r

And there's no reason why that can't generate a footnote in the same 
way that the "replaced-by" header does, eg:

http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/view-script.r?script=calc-engine.r


All we need now is a volunteer to go through 600+ scripts and group 
them together.

I just noticed my last post was to the wrong group. :-(

Thanks....IOS/Developer is working finw for me, and I can see your 
changes.

IOS/Developer is a bit of a forgotten Community gem (responses in 
the IOS group, if it still exists

Graham in the All group asked:

<<Is it not true though that you are limited in what you can do with 
rebol.org ? >>
Yes and no.

It's a shared server with the usual sort of quote limits, so that 
stops some of the wilder plans.

On the other hand, the limits are fairly generous. Right now, we 
do these sorts of numbers:
* 150,000 CGI executions per month
* 2.5 gigabytes of data served per month

* 70 megabytes of hard disk used (mainly for the Mailing List archive)


Of course some sort of bandwidth quota would exist with a dedicated 
server too -- that one comes from the ISP, not the box.
---- 

We've had the same problem most of us have had with servers at one 
time or another: REBOL going feral and failing to close tasks. That 
brought down the server once, and got us suspended for about 30 minutes 
until I beseeched forgiveness. Of course, that could happen with 
a dedicated server (no one quite knows why it happens).


Similarly, we get some leak-through from what are supposed to be 
the chinese walls; and that has caused the odd problem: mainly file 
permissions going askew.
---

As Peter said, the main limitation is manpower. There are several 
things under development at rebol.org right now; there is room for 
many other improvement projects too.

Thanks for helping. Posting a dot as the first post in the group 
(and sometimes even multiple posts w/ a single dot) is actually, 
quite an embarrassing experience, but at the moment it's the only 
way for me to sync to some of the groups.

Oops, sorry, wrong group.

Just seen Vince's reply as a result of Thor prodding the group to 
resync it. Thanks Thor.

<It's strange to have a script who plays a game better than its author>

Straneg, yes......But most of our scripts do things better or faster 
than we could ever manage. That's why we write them rather than employ 
slaves.

From the postscript group - it makes more sense to bring the archive 
of posts made in web public groups into rebol.org

Graham -- nice idea, but I can see two problems:

[1] [web-public] is not a fine enough flag to control whether a whole 
group should be published publicly.

web-public needs a start date [or ranges of dates] to indicate which 
messages were posted while the group was not private.

Without that, we'd be republishing messages from a "secure and private 
world" (Altme's own description) without explicit permission from 
all the contributers.

Either that, or the publisher will need a list of which forums are 
public, and the date range(s) for which messages can be published.
That initial list would need to be constructed manually.

Thereafter, they could keep it up to date by watching for "[web-public]" 
to appear or disappear in group titles.

There seems to be a related discussion in this group around the 8-Jun-2005.

Is there any reason that this group is private and not published 
to the web?  I know that there is a lot of good information in this 
group and everyone should have access to it.

group

François: thanks. One of Rebolinth's posts in the RAMBO group solved 
my problem (startup issues).

is there any good reason why this group is private? new users (like 
Joe) won't be able to find it.

I think you can make it public, no reason for the group with such 
generic name to be private, no? :-)

Any chance of a world master moving this group under the "Operating 
Systems" divider?

ah, did not noticed I am in linux group, sorry. But Azureus is JAVA 
based, hopefully it will work with linux too ...

will check,thanks ! still a newbie in the Linux world-have a Linux 
user group meeting tonite :)

just install Mandriva 2006 and then Rebol/Altme. Altme is acting 
different than the old Mandrake 10.1 install. It's showing all the 
messages in the All Groups-not the Rebol group etc ?

Really slow, which is odd because the target is a 'clean' WinXP install, 
where my old, upgraded-from-WinME XP install was much faster.  Anyway, 
inappropriate for the Linux group, I know.

it allows the directory to be entered/traversed by people who are 
not the owner  of the dir or in the group the directory belongs in

ok, now I tried it, Graham. I used Total Commander to copy it over 
ftp there. I got correct user and group permissions, but I had to 
chmod it directly on server to 755

I mean group or world write

oops... meant for another group... sorry...

ok then... let me create a group for Remark and maybe that can be 
used as a common chat room.  then whoever feels enclined to do so 
can just compile the stuff in whatever means he like and we can start 
some collaborative work on the beast...

One point that would make it simpler : you didn't used 'of keyword 
for your tog style.

'of keyword allow to group toggle, radio or checkbox in order to 
reset others while you set one.
Like this you don't need 'update-tabs functions :

The name of this group contained the text [web-publish], I changed 
it to the correct [web-public]

Tom started this group with a reference to
http://www.rebol.net/cookbook/requests.html

It's a set of outstanding requests for cookbook entries -- ie examples 
that people would like to see.

As he says.some have been done independently of the request, and 
published on the REBOLn Altmes or the Mailing List.

It'd be a great collective community New Year's resolution to clear 
some of the cookbook request by the end of the month (and that leaves 
plenty of time to enter the competition too)

I already posted it to rebcode group as it's rebcode which allowed 
me to this, but will like to post it here as well, because the main 
reason was to improve the Rebol/Flash dialect again....

Maybe you know that in Flash you can have embedded outlined fonts 
(independend on system) Most of the font's looks blury if you use 
them as outlines so you must use special fonts to get non blured 
pixel precision fonts. I was using some font editor just to see, 
that it's pretty difficult to make such a font so I decided it would 
be good to have possibility to make such a font just in any graphic 
editor - as a bitmap and comnvert it to pixels. Here is the result:


do http://box.lebeda.ws/~hmm/rebol/projects/font-tools/latest/test.r

I think Terry should get a sneak peak.  He appears to be, from the 
work he publicly shares with us, one of the most diverse Rebolers 
in the group.  I would think his input would be of value.  That's 
all I will say as well  ;-)

PeterWood: Right, as posted in OSX group /view doesn't work in 10.5/intel

btw - what about restricting this channel to only Questions and answers? 
I mean - let's create even other group - RT QA chat

Hi .... with recent Rebcode releases, we can see that internally 
new Core is marked as 2.7 and View is marked as 1.4 Is it just working 
"title" or will those products be marked as that? And if so, can 
we know, what other changes will go for 1.4 View release target? 
Will there be any AGG fixes/additions (to support SVG RebGUI progress), 
or even VID changes? I still think, that VID is missing few fine 
styles as tab, group-box, better list as was introduced on IOS Developer's 
server, (eventually tree, menu), to allow novices to start using 
VID/View more productively. Any chance RT can tell us, what is the 
plan for 1.4 release?

(Copied from rebcode group) Could you add struct! support to /Core?

I keep on having situations that would be made much easier by struct! 
when I don't need libraries. For instance, conversions from external 
binary data encodings to internal REBOL values, say for file formats, 
network protocols and so on. Now rebcode has added other forms of 
strong typing like the type-specific opcodes and the vectors. Having 
structs with their constrained field types, their specific data layouts, 
would be a perfect match for the low level operations of rebcode. 
They would be helpful later when implementing your own data types 
as well.

(By request, relayed from rebcode group) Could you add an APPLY opcode 
to rebcode?

    apply: ["Apply function or path to arguments, save result" word! 
    word! | path! block!]

In rebcode:
    apply x f [arg1 arg2 ...]
Is equivalent to this in REBOL:
    x: do f arg1 arg2 ...


The advantage to doing function calls this way is that the arity 
of the opcode is fixed, even if the arity of the function called 
can't be known ahead of time. The value assigned to the function 
word could be either a function or a path, or for efficiency you 
could have a seperate opcode APPLYP for path values (I'd prefer just 
one opcode for generality but it's your call).

Q: What does the world on Nov-15-2005 look like?


A: Our main goal is to get REBOL into the hands of more users, not 
just programmers and techies.... by the millions over time.  By doing 
that, we create a market for not only handy free REBOL apps, but 
also for commercial apps and entire businesses that are related to 
REBOL.



Q: Given that  window transparency is OS specific, will there be 
a dialect that covers both Windows, Linux and 40+ other OS?  In other 
words, does RT plan on continued support of so many languages, or 
are we entering a new era of specific OS support?


A: Our plan is to make that a window option that is part of the face/options 
for a window.  If an OS does not support this mode, then the option 
will be ignored, but the application will still be fully functional.



Q: I hope it is still valid that cooperation with RT is possible. 
I mean - last few weeks I play with some Win32 functions (thanks 
to Gregg) and I would like we would have proper app behavior in multi-monitor/multi-desktop 
environments .... so I wonder if any SIGs will be created, some ppl 
will be invited to participate, comment etc., or if RT is gonna cook 
it all themselves?


A: Yes, there are many such special interest projects currently going 
on. (Most of them are occurring via private projects in AltME and 
IOS.)  These days 90% of REBOL changes are done in cooperation with 
the REBOL community.



Q: Hi .... with recent Rebcode releases, we can see that internally 
new Core is marked as 2.7 and View is marked as 1.4 Is it just working 
"title" or will those products be marked as that? And if so, can 
we know, what other changes will go for 1.4 View release target? 
Will there be any AGG fixes/additions (to support SVG RebGUI progress), 
or even VID changes? I still think, that VID is missing few fine 
styles as tab, group-box, better list as was introduced on IOS Developer's 
server, (eventually tree, menu), to allow novices to start using 
VID/View more productively. Any chance RT can tell us, what is the 
plan for 1.4 release?


A: Regarding 2.7 and 1.4 question: we change the revision numbers 
(the second number) whenever there is a major change in REBOL that 
may be unstable.  The /core 2.7 kernel (that is in /view 1.4 as well) 
adds new datatypes to REBOL, and they are the first datatypes added 
in several years, so we consider this to be a major change, and marked 
it that way.
Yes, we do plan to be making a few AGG fixes very soon.

Oh, and regarding VID: we plan to be making very big changes there. 
More to come soon.


Q: Could you add struct! support to /Core?

I keep on having situations that would be made much easier by struct! 
when I don't need libraries. For instance, conversions from external 
binary data encodings to internal REBOL values, say for file formats, 
network protocols and so on. Now rebcode has added other forms of 
strong typing like the type-specific opcodes and the vectors. Having 
structs with their constrained field types, their specific data layouts, 
would be a perfect match for the low level operations of rebcode. 
They would be helpful later when implementing your own data types 
as well.


A: On structs: yes, we will enable this feature on core, but it should 
only be used for lower level code.  Objects are more powerful.


Q: Could you add an APPLY opcode to rebcode?

    apply: ["Apply function or path to arguments, save result" word! 
    word! | path! block!]

In rebcode:
    apply x f [arg1 arg2 ...]
Is equivalent to this in REBOL:
    x: do f arg1 arg2 ...


The advantage to doing function calls this way is that the arity 
of the opcode is fixed, even if the arity of the function called 
can't be known ahead of time. The value assigned to the function 
word could be either a function or a path, or for efficiency you 
could have a seperate opcode APPLYP for path values (I'd prefer just 
one opcode for generality but it's your call).


A: I'm not sure what is meant by the path for it. You mean for refinements?
That may actually slow down the apply interface.

I just fear one thing which tended to happen in the past - RT was 
silent before the release, release was done and then it was late 
for suggestions. Gabriele, please, try to avoid that :-) Tell Carl, 
please, that folks do need his attention here. You have some input 
in Rebol Enhancements group. In fact we don't know where to post, 
so some of us submit even to RAMBO. Everybody feels we are near freezing 
for 1.4/2.7, so please let's not cut some fine late enhancements.

Gabriele -- could you point Carl to Feedback message #5a5e09270?
It's been unanswered for a couple of weeks.

Basically, asks if there is any plans for formating numbers -- as 
per the discussion here (core group, 5-oct)
Thanks!

Gabriele - could you please pass my latest comments/links to Carl? 
I looked into Io slide-show and found they do use libevent library. 
I posted links into TechNews group. There is interesting reading 
in-there, also hidden is some links - liboop and The C10K problem 
..... Maybe we will find another libraries for further rebol improvements, 
like Cyphre did find agg.

Gabriele, your introductory posts in this group said: "I will post 
answers here each wednesday."

There are some questions that are several wednesdays overdue for 
a response.
Are there issues with continuing this group?

(The old group was a bit to OT for web IMHO)

(Old group renamed, not deleted)

You know, OT... like this group so far.

["Webcasting" this group so many others can follow it too.]

Please post bugs, comments, and suggestions to this group. All feedback 
is welcome!

Is this group more for bug fixes to the new plugin, or is it a place 
to make suggestions and discuss security issues?

2) Past disussion mid-November in 'Advocacy' group.  Mockup here: 
http://www.ross-gill.com/arran.html

JoshM: please go to plugin-1 group, scroll up a bit to find my bold 
messages, and read on a bit, there are some findings. To post some 
notes - probably the most significant link is - 

http://www.mozilla.org/projects/plugins/


The plugin extension adobe, mozilla, apple, opera, macromedia and 
sun agreed upon is npruntime

How to host NS plug-ins in IE:

http://www.mozilla.org/projects/plugins/plugin-host-control.html

JoshM: eval is ECMA script (java script) facility, so mozilla should 
have it. In fact, the idea came from the old plug-in group, where 
Micha posted some code which was supposed to work, should I find 
it?

The plugin *needs* to be highly restricted by default. Please scroll 
up to the top of this group where BrianH and others made some fine 
points about security.

Doc, please see my posts in the Plugin-2 group.

btw remark is now online... wondering if everyone sees the announce 
group... sometimes I think only a minority actually see/read it.