AltME groups: search

As for R3 console, which is ugly, but has some helpfull features 
too:

 Chat - open DevBase developer forum/BBS
 Docs - open DocBase document wiki (web)
 Bugs - open CureCode bug database (web)
 Demo - run demo launcher (from rebol.com)
 Help - show built-in help information
 Upgrade - check for newer releases
 Changes - what's new about this version (web)

WOW! All went ok for Rebol group, but if you look at Facebook help 
forum there are a lot of people angry about loosing ther memebers! 
Ehy! Where are the videos I uploaded??? NOOOOooooooo!

Don't change anything for me. It's your call to choose how you want 
things to appear for the not yet initialized Rebol visitors. You 
already filter away the visitors pretty well by using AltME as the 
main forum ...

That's not our decision. Users choose which method is best for communication 
and so far, AltME holds up pretty well. Users are free to use open 
forums like rebolforum.com or the Synapse forum.

Sorry not sure if this is the right place to ask. I'm overwhelmed 
with some many forum/place to post, and visit. I want to find a copy 
of Excel Dialect, but it's no longer available at http://www.robertmuench.de/download/, 
could you help me to locate a copy of it? Thanks a lot!

To use async on R2, I used to use Uniserve engine.

Once upon a time, France used a Web forum that had an XMLRPC interface 
and I coded a Rebol client that was able to monitor activity and 
send post on the forum asynchronously. It was a happy time...

yep, it is still there, I use 2.7.7.
I use this function to test:
f: func ['w] [type? get in construct compose [t: (:w)] 't]
>> f yes
== word!
>> f off
== logic!

forum topic is "Careful when Construct an object" on http://rebolforum.com, 
above link goes another topic. (a bug on forum, topic numbers changing)

I have a question about 'unique that could become a feature request.

Somebody ask (on the french Rebol forum) how he could remove the 
duplicate records from this dataset :
database: [
	a "b" "c 1" "d"
	a "b" "c 2" "d" 
	a "b" "c 3" "d"
	a "b" "c 2" "d" ;ligne 4 to delete
	a "b" "c 5" "d" 
	a "b" "c 6" "d" 
	a "b" "c 7" "d" 
	a "b" "c 2" "d" ;ligne 8 to delete
]

My first though was "use 'unique func". But it turns out that it 
can't do what I though.

As usual, the doc tells nothing about that (in fact it ells pretty 
nothing on the func), but with the /skip refinment, it seems it only 
checks the first value at each skip position (so the 'a in this dataset), 
not all the values of the record.

Max has published three "facebook hacker cuo" puzzles on Graham's 
forum:
    http://synapse-ehr.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?3-Rebol

I've had a go at two of them, so there are answers just waiting to 
be improved :)

RebGUI expert needed on REBOLTalk:
http://www.reboltalk.com/forum/index.php/topic,739.0.html

This is to indicate new messages in a forum

there's nothing compelling about forum software ...

No, Doc should write Cheyenne, that's what the release is for. I 
still don't get where you thought that Carl was going to delay the 
development release to write some forum software. The whole reason 
for the release is to get R3 out to the community, so that others 
can write this stuff.

Carl is just putting off the forum software until after the release, 
just like the DevBase rewrite.

I would if he were talking about DevBase (and did), but I think you 
are overestimating just how long it will take to write. We aren't 
talking about a web forum here, it is clear from the blog that he 
is talking about a R3 GUI client. He can knock that out in no time.

DevBase uses the database of AltME to store its data, has a working 
R/S interface, runs just fine. Change the data model and you would 
have a forum server. Servers are really very similar.

http://www.rebol.net/wiki/RebTalk_Forum

One step forward -- a demo/teaser for the REbtalk forum:
http://www.rebol.net/r3blogs/0157.html

Now what is that once again? It once again looks as missorganised 
effort. Give me a break, please. This one is really not going to 
be better than Atlme, far from that. I thought, that when we were 
talking about REBOL forum, we were not talking REBOL based GUI?

No, but you could come up with any app. This plan to use it as a 
basis for the discussion is pretty much FLAWED. If used, it will 
distract us from altme, as well as it WILL NOT cover what the group 
was asking for - having the web forum.

I don't think this can be used for a web forum (with heavy trafic), 
but it's useful to find out what needs to be changed in the R3 design. 
That's the reason why Carl limit's access to releases. He does not 
want to confuse too many people as the design changes too fast. I 
guess, I'm not in the same group as Henrik.

Carl states in the blog, that he is considering to use it for developer's 
discussions, and I don't agree to that, unless I can see, that the 
plan is really well though out. It will not be forum, it will be 
still worse than altme, it will not be searchable, etc.

So, we still lack a forum for the new users

If it's a test bed ... then don't call it a developers forum.

If it's a developer's forum ... it's grossly underpowered

is there also going to be an r3 release today as well or is the forum 
reblet all we're going to get?

the forum reblet needs r3

http://www.forummatrix.org/compare/Advanced-Electron-Forum%2BBeehive-Forum%2BdnfBB%2BE-Blah%2BJForum%2BmvnForum%2BmwForum%2BMyBB%2BNextBBS%2BPhorum%2BSMF%2BUnclassified-NewsBoard%2BVanilla%2BViscacha%2BXMB

AdrianS, the forum reblet requires the latest R3 release.

It seems that every GUI has a version of Apple's Coverflow these 
days. Flash, JavaScript, JavaFX, even WPF and Delphi. A R3 coverflow 
would be a much better application to test out the GUI than a colour 
selector and a forum client. It would be a great demonstration of 
R3's capabilities.

My response to a query aboit REBOL3 on REBOLtalk would not make a 
marketing person happy:
-- year old alpha
-- no obvious contact details for those wanting to get involved.
Could someone better connected do a better job, please?

http://www.reboltalk.com/forum/index.php/topic,1827.msg4644.html#msg4644

>> source chat
chat: make function! [[
    "Open REBOL DevBase forum/BBS." /local err
][
    print "Fetching chat..."
    if error? err: try [do http://www.rebol.com/r3/chat.rnone] [

        either err/id = 'protocol [print "Cannot load chat from web."] [do 
        err]
    ]
    exit
]]

http://www.tretbase.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=30#p131

ALTME is not the best medium for that type of  effort.  The forum 
remains with some clean code and examples.

I still think a better solution would be a darknet forum that way 
Carl doesn't have to worry about spammers.

I had another similiar incident recently with FBSL that AVG had caught 
as well and had to report it in their forum but they fixed it fast.

CArl on french forum they are wating to now if you plan to bring 
rebol world to the modile phone 3 generation area ? (android windowsphone 
or iphone). Could be a good way to show that not only adobe flash 
can provide things  in that area i think. But they a special "set" 
of feature should be build in rebol to feet the particular need of 
those plateform. What do you thin about it Carl ?

ok well that's an idea that poped out on the french forum i wanted 
to share to carl.

>> source chat
chat: make function! [[
    "Open REBOL DevBase forum/BBS."
    /local err
][
    print "Fetching chat..."
    if error? err: try [do http://www.rebol.com/r3/chat.rnone] [

        either err/id = 'protocol [print "Cannot load chat from web."] [do 
        err]
    ]
    exit
]]

I've added a REBOL forum to my new vbulletin forum .. since reboltalk 
seems to be done 
http://synapse-ehr.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?3-Rebol

according to this: http://www.aprelium.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=57622

Only from close friends living in the java world, beyond them, no 
one. I don't expect much from outside REBOL world yet, Cheyenne is 
mainly useful for REBOL programmers. Once it reaches 1.x, Cheyenne 
will have features that would make it more interesting for outsiders 
(like a simple web control panel, web sites and webapp packaging 
in one unique executable, on-demand ready-to-use web application 
loading from our servers: blog, forum, bugtracker,...). I may also 
add a FTP service in a future 1.x version and a lot of other innovating 
new features I have in mind. ;-)

don't forget unintended deletion of forum channels!

<rant>One thing Cheyenne (and Rebol) needs to do is grow up, and 
lose Altme as the primary source of communication</rant>


AltMe is convenient because almost all Cheyenne users come here for 
realtime chatting, but I agree on your comment. Adding a web forum 
to the Cheyenne web site would be a good thing.

anyone used Bernstein's daemontools to control Cheyenne?

 I think some french reboler did in the past, but not sure it was 
 with Cheyenne, try searching through the french rebol forum.

yes when I paste it to the forum, all formatting goes out..
in http protocol scheme, pick takes just one argument, port.

ws protocol works,
run the chat server (see the post on the forum)
p: open ws://localhost/chat
insert p "hello"
pick p 1
== "hello"
insert p "/nick endo"
pick p 1
== "server: you known as endo"

Seems like a Chrome mime type mapping issue, see : http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Chrome/thread?tid=43bec1a85f6c7c9c&hl=en

area = rebol2 networking 
and not forum

Checking the Prevx support forum, it appears that they block pasting 
to applications to prevent clipboard monitoring. R2.7.6 is probably 
in their whitelist. Someone with a Prevx license needs to report 
that they are blocking 2.7.8, so they can add it to their whitelist.

This meeting will continue in this open forum for 72 hours, or until 
the Chair recognizes

a quorum of the assembly and begins calling votes to motions.  Most 
voting will occur

at the Second Meeting, scheduled for Saturday June 2nd, 2007, at 
16:00 UTC.

This meeting does not stand adjourned.

Point of Information.

Anyone that requires assistance with the formalities of the IRUA 
forum, please feel
free to post questions to IRUA Chat.

In recap;

We have, by acclamation,
A Vice-President; Maxim
A Secretary; btiffin
An Official Advocate; Pekr
As Vice-President Maxim will also be acting President

A Draft Constitution has been posted to
  http://peoplecards.ca/rebol/iruaconstitution.rsp


Officially the member count stands at 8, unofficially this number 
is higher.

The First Open Motion now includes
RABBLE, user.r, RUGGED, REWARD, IRUA, RCoders and Rebols

as possible association names.   R and RCamp were not seconded, but 
may be
proposed again.


A new motion to grant the Advocate powers to appoint Assistants to 
Council
was opened.


The First open motion, the Naming motion remains open and the voting 
system
remains undefined.
The Second open motion, the Rules motion remains open.
The Fourth motion will remain open until election of a President.

The Fifth motion, the Committees motion remains open and it is hoped 
that activities
will continue outside the meeting timeframes.
The Sixth motion, the Home Site motion is still open for debate.

And the Advocate Assistants motion will be open for debate in the 
Fourth Meeting.


The Fourth Meeting is scheduled to open on Saturday June 16th 2007, 
16:00 UTC


The Chair would once again like to thank all participants in this 
meeting
and those participating in the IRUA Chat forum.

This meeting stands adjourned.

Formal user.r communications have moved to Qtask.com.  All interested 
parties are asked to drop btiffin a note either to REBOL3 private 
chat or to private email and an invitation will be sent out post 
haste.  Please give an email address for the invitation, or mention 
that the account listed here on REBOL3 is ok. 

user.r Chat will stay open on REBOL3 for the forseeable future, but 
this forum, user.r Formal will be closed sometime after September 
1st.

Thanks to all.
Brian Tiffin
user.r Secretary

SimpleMachines forum is switching into temp page informing about 
maintenance mode - so people see the message, but are not able to 
access dynamic content, databases and so.

DevBase is the forum/filestore that you access withg the CHAT command 
in R3.

It may be the time to discuss the style name, I just do not know 
what is the best forum for it

I was trying to avoid posting that link in a web-public forum.

I had a question regarding event handling in REBOL 2. Please let 
me know the appropriate forum for that sort of question. :)

Not directly related to R3, but an example how MorphOS guys aproach 
using LUA as a system language extension (AREXX replacement). It 
might be interesting to compare for those, who plan to integrate 
R3 to other systems - http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=32945&forum=28

Red's web forum now opened : http://groups.google.com/group/red-lang?hl=en

I don't see how the chat-oriented content here would not look like 
a big mess if copied to a web forum :-).

Thanks guys for the insights and propositions. I found it a bit difficult 
to follow in realtime, I'm not sure that AltME is the best tool for 
such conversations. Maybe we should give a try to the Red web forum 
next time: http://groups.google.com/group/red-lang?

Nenad , how would reading something in a forum be better than reading 
it here?

Well, usually, you have more time to read and reply on a web forum 
before the post you're referring to, gets lost in the flow of new 
ones.

Cross-posting jocko's reply from RebelBB french forum: 

There are two steps in this DLL: 


- first send a request to the Google api, for instance : http://translate.google.com/translate_tts?tl=en&q=hello+world
Google returns an audio file : translate_tts.mp3


- second, automatically open this file and play it. I use a DirectXShow 
filter (windows only), directly able to render the url. In the case 
of Linux, cUrl could do the first step, and, for instance VLC the 
second

http://www.english-test.net/forum/ftopic25371.html


And then in Microsoft Manual of Style (version 3.0) we can read "To 
form the plural of an acronym, use a lowercase "s" without an apostrophe." 
Example: several IFSs.

what is that channel? If a new one, a forum, please add it to the 
Community section on red-lang.org?