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Does the send email work for esmtp in altme. I do not see the proper 
settings...am I missing something?

Can you reset it and email me ?

using localhost I sent an email to gmail.  I turned on wireshark 
and captured all traffic for a couple of minutes.  no smtp traffic.

How long does it take to send an email cf normal smtp ?

the email form has no action

Is there a log for the email ?

There's a "Email sent" log from MTA in verbose mode (-vv at least)

Btw, don't forget to check your spam box if email is sent and you 
don't see it.

While testing now, I've noticed a few issue with send-email/attach: 
header and multipart/form-data encoding. I'll fix them tonight, need 
to go now.

I'm not entirely clear at all from your description what the issue 
is.  But I presume doc is working on fixing the email issue and if 
there are others ... he'll get on to them.

Quick warn on current email lib in Cheyenne: it was reported that 
my patchs to REBOL internal functions for RFC compliance are breaking 
some builtin protocols (HTTP e.g.). That's caused by other LF (instead 
of CRLF) deep buried in most protocols implementations conflicting 
with my patches. I'll remove my patches in next SVN build and recode 
all the stuff.

so no email !

I don't really understand your issue about RFC .. I send email to 
gmail all the time .. it never gets rejected

If you're still having issues with the MTA, please active maximum 
log level : -vvvvv and send me the output on private channel or by 
email.

very odd... I just send email using rebol and there's no smtp traffic 
recorded!

so if there were no 4xx error codes from the MTA, your email is probably 
in the spam box?

21/9-10:50:49.068-# Warning in [MTA] : SMTP Error: {421-4.7.0 [203.97.98.9] 
Our system has detected an unusual amount of un
solicited^M
} !
21/9-10:50:49.123-[HTTPd] Connection closed

21/9-10:50:52.048-## Error in [uniserve] : On-raw-received call failed 
with error: make object! [
    code: 303
    type: 'script
    id: 'expect-arg
    arg1: 'send-email
    arg2: 'mx
    arg3: [tuple!]
    near: [send-email p/job ip p/dst]
    where: 'on-mx
] !

21/9-10:50:49.068-# Warning in [MTA] : SMTP Error: {421-4.7.0 [203.97.98.9] 
Our system has detected an unusual amount of un
solicited^M
} !
21/9-10:50:49.123-[HTTPd] Connection closed

21/9-10:50:52.048-## Error in [uniserve] : On-raw-received call failed 
with error: make object! [
    code: 303
    type: 'script
    id: 'expect-arg
    arg1: 'send-email
    arg2: 'mx
    arg3: [tuple!]
    near: [send-email p/job ip p/dst]
    where: 'on-mx
] !

opendns is too slow for me for web browsing .. but it should be okay 
for just email

Re: greylisting, the plan was to use the freshly integrated scheduler 
library : scheduler/add [in 5 mn do [resend <email-id>]]

SVN r23 :


FEAT: improved logging and error handling for dig/SMTP/MTA modules.

FEAT: integration of deferred retries in MTA for temp errors recovering 
and greylisting passing.

FEAT: new config keyword in global section: dns-server. (see changelog.txt)

FIX: in email generation, added a missing CRLF between headers and 
body.
FIX: logger sub-second times output padding fixed.
FIX: minor code cleanups.

It's for Cheyenne only usage. Sending email is often required in 
web applications, setting up and maintaining a third party MTA like 
sendmail is costly and complicated. Having a MTA built in Cheyenne 
will save everyone a lot of time and troubles.

This r27 is the first version that successfully attempts to resend 
a greylisted email ... so far it has retried twice to send my mail 
to google, but google keeps temp failing my mail :(  Guess my IP 
address is marked as a spam source.

You have to sign up, confirm your email, and then confirm your email 
subscriptions before you can add cheyenne-server!

Nice idea! A REST-like interface to Cheyenne's MTA using the demo 
email form. :-)

in email.rsp we have the following ..

	;-- check attach file and format it for send-email
	ten-mega: 10 * (2 ** 20)
	if block? file: param/file [
		file/1: to-file file/1
		

  either file? file/2 [	; check case where uploaded file has been streamed 
  on disk
			if any [not exists? file/2 ten-mega < size? file/2][
				print "Attached file not found or size above 10MB limit!"
				response/end
			]
			file/2: read/binary file/2
		]
		param/file: reduce [param/file]
	]

SVN r30 :


FEAT: MTA engine refactored, jobs are split in sub-tasks allowing 
more reliable and cleaner code.
FEAT: Default SMTP delay reduced to 5mn.

FEAT: MTA queue can now be saved on disk when server is restarted 
(persist [mail-queue])

FEAT: added native DNS async wrapper for UniServe (protocols/DNS.r)

FEAT: replaced blocking DNS calls for MX domain resolution by async 
DNS calls.

FEAT: 'on-mx event in DIG protocol now returns a block of all the 
declared MX.

FEAT: now all MX will be tried in right order by the MTA if connexion 
fails.
FEAT: improved SMTP logs by prefixing with a SMTP session ID.

FEAT: upload data in HTTPd limited to 2GB (max supported by integer! 
type)

FEAT: 'email-info? RSP function return data format improved (see 
email.rsp header)

FIX: email.rsp minor bugs fixed and From: field added.
FIX: minor fixes in email.r library.

FIX: now uni-engine's logging level is also set by 'set-verbose function.

Humm...RSP's send-email function is in RSP space (worker process). 
It will be difficult to access it directly without going through 
HTTP.

I'm afraid that the only simple way is to go through http://localhost/email.rsp

I just send the test files by email

Please try the test cases I wrote in the email, session/active? gives 
2 different result after restarted a session, if the files are different 
folders

or if you have binaries please send me by email

(I sent you email with files and video)

I can envision a day when everything will have an "always on" connection 
with everything else that is important.. probably via websockets. 
 ie: my email, chats, voicemails pushed to me wherever i am, and 
on whatever device. The ability to do this is nothing new (SOAP, 
XML-RPC etc), but what is missing is a homogenous catalyst... the 
webserver seems the most likely candidate, as they are the de-facto 
interface to the world's DBs. This is my vision for Cheyenne, that 
of an Uber-server.

Can someone give me some guidance on the following I keep getting 
a decoding error.

<%
 	fname: request/content/fname
   	lname: request/content/lname
   	spouse: request/content/spouse
	address: request/content/address
	city: request/content/city
	state: request/content/state
	zip: request/content/zip
	h_phone: request/content/h_phone
	c_phone: request/content/c_phone
	email: request/content/email

 do-sql 'bugs ["INSERT INTO names VALUES (?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?)"fname 
 lname spouse address city state zip h_phone c_phone email ]
%>

Jim's snippet could be rewritten like that : 
<%
	if none? validate/full [
 		fname	-		*
   		lname	-		*
   		spouse	-		-
		address	-		-
		city		-		*
		state		-		*
		zip		integer!	*
		h_phone	-		*
		c_phone	-		-
		email		email!	*
	][
		req: request/content
		do-sql 'bugs [
			"INSERT INTO names VALUES (?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?)"
			req/fname
			req/lname
			req/spouse
			req/address
			req/city
			req/state
			req/zip
			req/h_phone
			req/c_phone
			req/email 
		]
	]
%>

For the CureCode I have set a new account request in and am getting 
no email. I went back to my Curecode R3 account and requested the 
password email and so far no email.  For new request, status says 
'account not yet activated'

From the logs on curecode.org, both emails have been rejected by 
your email SMTP server. It seems like a SMTP issue (not sure yet 
from if it is from the server or client side). Anyway, I've validated 
your CC accounts, so you can log in.

Got one email now.. Thanks

Is anyone running cheyenne, the source code version on linux, with 
the need of /Library (like sqlite / pdf / ... binding) and need to 
setup set-net (for sending email)? If, how are you running it, with 
what version of rebol and how?

So, we could use this to send email instead of RSP script?  Just 
have to upload attachements base 64 encoded still I guess as it is 
still a text protocol

I use Cheyenne to send email ... via Rsp

If you're using Cheyenne just as a MTA, better strip it down to just 
UniServe + MTA service, and integrate %Uniserve/libs/email.r in your 
client app.

I use websockets for passing javascript and JSON to a static page. 
 The pages start off with a single javascript function, then i use 
websockets to lazy load.


Here's  pseudo for an email client using Cy (shorting Cheyenne to 
Cy from C.. keep confusing myself)


- Start with a blank page with the websocket function. No HTML, No 
css.. link to Jquery only  .. this page is under 1k

- Send an initial message to Cy with the page name, Cy responds by 
pushing the necessary HTML (simple email form), CSS and JS (a single 
function to send back the form results to Cy) to the DOM

- User fills out form, and submits.. pushing an array (JSON, string.. 
whatever) with the message details to Cy
- Cy sends the message via rebol mail

... but then 


.. Cy polls the users pop mail acount on a regular basis, and upon 
finding a new message, sends <i> sends a javascript function</i> 
to the page, that gets EVAL 'd . This could do some animation in 
a canvas tag, push some message to the browser's chrome.. whatever.
 

All using the same tiny webpage. When you look at the source, you 
see 20 lines of code.

You can query Cheyenne's MTA (through RSP scrip) for email sending 
job status.

Notification thru websocket port: sure, you can have that, but you'll 
need: a ws client for REBOL, a websocket app and a RSP script for 
that (the websocket app will need a timer to trigger queries on a 
RSP script to get the email status or hack in local MTA data to get 
the info to avoid querying a RSP script).

If you want it, I can make the binary packages for deb, RPM and TGZ. 
 I already done it for Rebol, so it's easy for me. My email is [maxint-:-tiscali-:-it]

Dockimbel: i sent u an email with some background story which can 
help to think about a good solution

Dockimbel: did u get my email too?

onetom: I started writing you a reply by email, but it might be easier 
to discuss it there.

I would say that logs shouldn't have the same user permission than 
the web accounts (prod, stg and devel1 in your example from email).

or is it better to paste such bigger chunks somewhere else?
email it? or pastebin.com?

Got you email, thanks.

Endo, thanks for the code. I will need something similar for sqlite. 
I just got a first db is locked error yesterday with it at UsrJoy.


What I'm trying to log is side-info (like usage info) so I don't 
want to inpact the speed of response by having aditional disk write 
in the request-response process (it has to be async).


Doc: I used debug functions for various info logging too now (and 
I do diff on trace in cron and send myself email if there is any 
difference), but I am trying to log more things and I would like 
to leave trace.log for errors only. I was interested if the existing 
functionality that serializes debug to trace.log could be used to 
log to some other file. like info.log . That would complicate the 
app-code the least.. otherwise I was thinking of what  Kaj  proposed, 
to have some queue to send data over via tcp to and it will write 
it to disk in intervals. That would bring another dependancy into 
app-code.. something like redis could automatically work like this 
I think.

I'm trying to send an email within an .rsp script. Is this not possible 
because I keep getting errors: 


** User Error : Server error: tcp 503 AUTH command used when not 
advertised 
** Where: none 
** Near:  [smtp-port: open [scheme: 'esmtp]

You can use that to send email instead of using 'send

ie. www/email.rsp

I was using an older version (not sure which) so I upgraded to newest 
version and email works! but now I have some .rsp scripts failing 
: #[object! [ code: 311 type: script id: invalid-path arg1: MTA arg2: 
#[none] arg3: #[none] near: [port-id: any [ all [ value? 'servers-port 
block? servers-port servers-port/MTA ] 9803 ]] where: context ]]

Tried to vote twice - unsuccessfully on both occasions - I don't 
have email setup on the machine from which I use View (apart from 
Google that is).

Point of information;  Sorry the chair mistakenly referenced the 
first list as raw data.  Raw data will be available upon request 
to the Secretary  user btiffin's email can be found through normal 
Altme means.  The first list is the sorted data by postive result.

Brian ... how is that IRUA had no negative references? I sent my 
email one day ago, hopefully it was there in time, and I am nearly 
sure I voted for IRUA with some negativity. First - it is not real 
world, second I am not sure what the abbreviation means, I mean - 
having it on my t-shirt is far from being cool, if even I can't depict 
the abbreviation. And third, it reminds me of IRA :-)

My email was sent 10:29 GMT + 2

Point of information for the esteemed member;  Yes the mail was delayed, 
but the original lists and counts were recinded.  A new motion was 
brought forward with the new counts and sort.  user.r was elevated 
to highest on the list, IRUA relegated to third.  The current vote 
is for  user.r  if it fails to receive a majority then RABBLE will 
be tabled for vote.


Point of information;  Raw data can be requested from btiffin using 
the email in Altme.  The data will also be posted to the home site 
archive for historical purposes once the archive is established.

Formal user.r communications have moved to Qtask.com.  All interested 
parties are asked to drop btiffin a note either to REBOL3 private 
chat or to private email and an invitation will be sent out post 
haste.  Please give an email address for the invitation, or mention 
that the account listed here on REBOL3 is ok. 

user.r Chat will stay open on REBOL3 for the forseeable future, but 
this forum, user.r Formal will be closed sometime after September 
1st.

Thanks to all.
Brian Tiffin
user.r Secretary

You mean the key part? The key is per user account, not per email 
sent.

Reset password link: CC's reset password link can only be compromised 
if someone get access to your email account or if he's able to sniff 
your web traffic. I'm not sure that the risk of someone taking control 
of your CC account and mixing up your posted tickets, or spamming 
comments is severe enough to raise the security protections higher. 
I usually apply protecting measures proportionnally to the level 
of risks involved. If you can convince me that the current level 
of protection used in CC is not high enough, I will raise it.

All of them (including chey-<pid>.log file if you have it). Just 
zip them and send them to me by email. Thanks for taking the time 
to help me investiguate this issue.

Normally the email confirmation fails so you know that way

Doc: did you see my email regarding the security issue?

pulling a single unique email address (out of 429) took  0.013

so the time seems somewhat fixed around 0.12 seconds regardless of 
the density

There's a fundamental flaw with this.. let say i find 3000 customers, 
but now i want to pull their email property

foreach customers  customer [ (pseudo) intersect the  customer with 
i1 and email i2)
once is fine.. but 3000 loops is really slow

probably need to store the properties as objects

data: [ "bob" [ email "[bob-:-example-:-com]" lname "Jones"] ...]

then continue to index email, lname etc

The problem with the other method was the overall cost of looking 
up properties .. if all you needed was the single property, (ie all 
things that are age = 75) then that was fine, but usually you want 
more info. So if you found 5000 things that match the query, you'd 
need to run the whole process 5000 times to get all their email addresses. 


It just makes more practical sense to keep things as things, along 
with all of their properties.

ie. where is the smtp mail server information stored and where is 
the email stored?

Ok, this is pretty buggy and doesn't seem to send a well formed email 
... not sure why

http://rebol.wik.is/Rebol3/Schemes/Smtp

if you enline the message, it actually sends the complete email

ie. I can't test the authentication because I don't actually have 
an email account with them.

I mean I open the port and do a read .. and off goes my email

If you're retrieving a 20mb file via email, you really want to send 
each part back to the client as you get it and not just store it 
in locals as the original r2 pop scheme does.

I sent you the source via email as AltMe doesn't handle OSX line 
breaks.

can you email the new version?  mine is corrupted now ...with the 
manually applied diff's!

prot-send.r is just a function and not a scheme.  But it relies on 
system objects such as email ...  I guess we can include these in 
the function until some decision is made about where they should 
go.

Ok, what do we need for imap?  ( although I suspect doing all these 
email schemes is a waste of time without ssl ) ...

So, are users supposed to initalize their email, passwords, proxies 
etc somewhere or each time they run a script?

So, every email script has their own prefs?

For instance pop or imap might need a SEND-EMAIL function exported, 
and maybe a SET-NET. That's all.

I looked at Ratio's import-email function on the blog and was wondering 
if R3 is supposed to have an import-email function? He claim's R2's 
import-email function is buggy and there is really an unfixed report 
in RAMBO.

Is there any RFC related to the email string which is being parsed?

I'm not aware of any bugs with import-email... but of course it does 
die if you get non compliant email

I used to run a routine to fix an email first before running import-email 
on it .....  ie. add missing fields etc

What is the best way to handle HTTP encoding in R3?  For example 
if I get an email that has been encoded as paul%40tretbase.com?  
How could I convert that easily to [paul-:-tretbase-:-com]?  Not sure if 
I need to build my own decoder or if we already have that capability.

Is there a new method to send email in R3?

It doesn't check whether the email address is valid, just that the 
syntax is valid.

actually the smallest valid email in Rebol is 1 char + @
>> type? 1@
== email!

Paul, I usually test email entry using simmilar code to this:
if any [
    not email? try [email: first load/next cgi/email]
    all [
		not read join dns:// email/host
		not read rejoin [dns:// "smtp." email/host]
		not read rejoin [dns:// "pop." email/host]
		not read rejoin [dns:// "mail." email/host]
		not read rejoin [dns:// "www." email/host]
		...
	] 
][
	print "email is not valid or your email server is unavailable"
]


Worked well in most cases for me but I bet others might have more 
sophisticated solutions.

GUI, console (not willing to experiment that much with the Windows 
default one), call, protocols (ftp, email, easy-cgi), DB (mysql, 
sqlite)

Write an email to it? :)

Where should be stored equivalent to R2's system/user/name and system/user/email 
?

I might not be as good as you guys are, but if there is anything 
I can do to help R3, let me know. My email: [JerryTsai1218-:-Gmail-:-com]. 
Let's make R3 hit the beta this year.

wish for R3 / Topaz / Red / World:
Add common charsets and parsing rules to system object:
system/parse: context [
	digit: charset [#"0" - #"9"]
	upper: charset [#"A" - #"Z"]
	lower: charset [#"a" - #"z"]
	alpha: union upper lower
	hexdigit: union digit charset "abcdefABCDEF"
	bindigit: charset "01"
	space: charset " ^-^/"
	digits: [some digit]
	decimal: [opt digits "." digits | digits "." ]
	exponent: [ [ "e" | "E" ] opt ["+" | "-"] digits]
	float: [opt "-" [decimal | digits] opt exponent]
	email:...
	...etc.
]

I can use decode-email-field to decode various encodings of subject. 
But I wasn't able to figure out how can I decode the content of an 
email which is in my case encoded with quoted-printable / utf8 . 


I found to-netmsg library on codeconscius.com code that loads the 
email text and parses it into structure. It doesn't decode the subject 
=?UTF-8?B...?= but it does the content. I could use that and power 
mezz to get the effect I want. If there is a way to encode content 
in power-mezz I would rather use it alone.

my email address here is the best way to send me stuff, if you are 
so inclined .