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Thanks Volker for the editor.  I'll definately be studying your code. 
 Looks nice.

REBOL [
	Title: "Local Index" 
	Type: 'index 
	dynamic: true 
	plugin-pane: 0.5
]

title "Local Files"
app 0.3

group "A" effect [multiply green] 
			 
group "B" icon %action.png

action "a\gitarre"    do [explore %/f/gitarre/]
action "a\view-root" do [explore view-root]
action "a\hamster"   do [call "H:\prog\Hamster\Hamster.exe"]

action "b\Internet" do [
	call "H:\Programme\offline-proxy-mm3\MM3-WebAssistant.bat"
	call "C:\Programme\discountsurfer\discountsurfer.exe"
	call "H:\Programme\Mozilla\Firefox\firefox.exe"
	call "C:\Programme\Opera75\Opera.exe"
] 


action "b\Firefox" do [	call "H:\Programme\Mozilla\Firefox\firefox.exe"] 
icon %web-surf-action.png

action "c\desktop"   do [editor view-root/desktop.r] 
action "c\imap"      do [editor %imap-handler.r] 

file "Info" %info.txt
file "T\Test" %test1.r 
file "T\Test2" %test2.r 
file "T\Test" %test3.r

; this is composed ----
file (form now/date) %dummy.r

action "Click me" #clickme do [
            alert "hi"

            [Text "This will be displayed within the desktop" [alert "ho"]]
          ]

action "Click me 2" #clickme2 do [
            alert "hi"
			; no return value, so nothing displayed in the desktop
          ]

action "PRINT" do [print "^/^/----------------------^/^/^/"]
action "prin somethin" do ["yea"]
file "t\Test" %dummy.r

; this will draw the plugin
app-draw [face /local cl-size][
   cl-size: to pair! reduce [face/size/x 50]
	face/pane: layout/offset[
		at 0x0 
	   text "00:00:00" cl-size center 255.155.40 with [
   		font: [size: 24]
	   	rate: 1
		   user-data: none
   		feel: make feel [
	   		engage: func [face action event i] [
		   		if user-data <> now/time [
			   		i: form user-data: now/time
				   	if 7 > length? i [append i ":00"]
					   face/text: i
   					show face
	   			]
		   	]
      	]
      ]
      text "TEST" 
		button "hi" [alert "you!"] 
   	button "CLOSE" [unview/all] 
	] 0x0 face/size 
]

; if you need to redraw after a resize, not yet used
app-resize [new-size][]

Hey, I'll submit this .. WYSIWYG editor for http://squigglz.com
 try editing the ~sandbox~ squiggle.

Louis:  This is not my world, you would have to ask Carl.

Will, pasted from what?  That is the key.  Please look at the contents 
of your paste in a hex editor, and tell me if it has CR, LF, LF + 
CR,. or CR + LF.

Problem can be easily demonstrated by copying the following three 
lines from TexEdit (Notepad like default text editor on Mac):

One
Two
Three

Actually, this looks like a WindowsXP or NTFS problem, not a problem 
of rebol at all, because I can "Run D:\Anton\Dev\Rebol\View\rebol.r...." 
and my text editor (associated with .R files) pops up to edit rebol.r

The decompressed string was identical to the original string. The 
compression/decompression has nothing to do with it. The problem 
is in loading a string of code copied straight from an editor or 
somewhere. If that code had been MOLDed first it would have been 
OK.
>> mold #"^M"

== {#"^^M"}        ;<--------- note the double escape, this string 
loads properly.

correction, result is == ["a" "b"]
my "do from editor molded /only..

Gab or some RAMBO editor, can you update RAMBO ticket #4087

there is a workaround from Edgar which is to so system/ports/serial: 
[ttyS0 ttyS1] to patch the ubuntu port of REBOL.  I suspect that 
can be done in a future release for ubuntu, but at least for now 
I have a workaround.

OT: Is there are Rebol based RAMBO editor available that works on 
the web version's database?

Dont know, I figured it out largely by examining the ctx-edit object 
(view editor)

ah, cool, I will play with that some.  Aren't you making an editor 
of some type?

A rebol code editor.

My end goal is to be able to take some formatted text of some kind, 
something that is generated by a utility of some kind, and generate 
a spreadsheet from it.  The formatted text can be of any type including 
" and the like.


I'm working in reverse, by creating a spreadsheet in MS excel with 
various kinds of data that I've shown above.  Some data with just 
alpha, just numbers, combinatins, leading quotes, trailing quotes, 
embedded quotes, embedded commas, spaces etc.  Then I saved the spreadsheet 
as CSV and another version as Tab delimited.


Then by looking at those files via notepad or other editor, I can 
see how the data must be in order for MS excel to accept it.  I initially 
had problems with the CSV model because embedded qutoes needs other 
qutoes added to that "cell" if you will.  The Tab delimited model 
has less restrictions on it.  The only thing that needs attention 
is when a "cell" starts with a quote, which needs additional quotes 
added to it.  Embedded qutoes or trailing qutoes don't need any modification.


Long story short -- I'm going with Tab delimited model and figuring 
out a rebol script to take data from an IBM utility dump (with rules 
on what data to capture), and model that info into an excel spreadsheet 
via Tab delimited file.

ed: func [/file filename [string! file!] " afile name" /local fn 
] 
	[either file 
		[either exists? fn: to file! :filename
			[editor fn]
			[fn: ask "file name:  " editor to file! :fn] ]
		[editor {}]
	]

comment { this works the same

ed: func [/file filename [string! file!] " afile name" /local fn 
] 
	[either file 
		[either exists? fn: to file! filename
			[editor fn]
			[fn: ask "file name:  " editor to file! fn] ]
		[editor {}]
	]}

; I did a dif between the functions in VIEW and those in CORE for 
a default install.  What I get is this ( I hope it is useful to have 
al 106  in one place )

 alert  brightness?  caret-to-offset  center-face  choose  clear-face 
  clear-fields  confine  crypt-strength?

 dbug  deflag-face  desktop  dh-compute-key  dh-generate-key  dh-make-key 
  do-events  do-face  do-face-alt  do-thru  

 draw  dsa-generate-key  dsa-make-key  dsa-make-signature  dsa-verify-signature 
  dump-face  dump-pane  edge-size?  

 editor  emailer  exists-thru?  find-key-face  find-window  flag-face 
  flag-face?  flash  focus  get-face  

 get-net-info  get-style  hide  hide-popup  hilight-all  hilight-text 
  hsv-to-rgb  in-window?  inform  

 insert-event-func  inside?  install  launch-thru  layout  link-relative-path 
  load-image  load-stock  

 load-stock-block  load-thru  local-request-file  make-face  notify 
  offset-to-caret  open-events  outside?  

 overlap?  path-thru  read-net  read-thru  remove-event-func  request 
  request-color  request-date  request-dir  

 request-download  request-file  request-list  request-pass  request-text 
  reset-face  resize-face  rgb-to-hsv  

 rsa-encrypt  rsa-generate-key  rsa-make-key  screen-offset?  scroll-drag 
  scroll-face  scroll-para  set-face  

 set-font  set-para  set-style  set-user  show  show-popup  size-text 
  span?  stylize  textinfo  unfocus  

 uninstall  unlight-text  unview  vbug  view  viewed?  win-offset? 
  within?

i agreed with a cool editor like MDP-GUI that"s even cooler

blank line is required if you manualy wrap your line at 70/80 char 
because your editor does not wrap by himself (Carl's intention, see 
makedoc2.5 header)

About *bold*, ~italic~, -strike- and _underline_, maybe it would 
be a good idea to introduce a new paragraph level state change called 
=magic (I got the idea from the vim editor). If the writer type:

=magic


then the short form of bold, italic and so can be used. If the writer 
type:

=/magic


we're back to the default character level state changes: [b], [i], 
[s] and [u]. Isn't that a good idea? :-)

Argh! You was faster than me !! 

I wanted to do a things like that. I have a style to render inline 
formating if you want.

I have also an editor with some funcs to help inserting tagswith 
key shortcut.

Do you bother if I do a fork of it with my own idea ?

But it's not what I need. MDP-GUI is a help for those who don't know 
MakeDoc rules.

I just want an editor that help me to insert the most bothering tags 
(like <b></b>) arround the text I want.

Typing tags is not very confortable on French Keyboard : < and > 
are on the same key and the last require Shift. / require Shift too. 
So typing tags all the time is very annoying.

GRaham note that I don't say I'm not interrested on making NicomDoc 
quick and easy editor but this format has too a lot of things to 
make a VID parse writer mad hehehehe or maybe I'm not enought skilled 
...

Sorry, need to change the settings in my editor.

Has anyone a syntax file handy for use in gedit, the default text 
editor in gnome?

was looking also but didn't find one.
try this nice editor instead: http://www.scintilla.org/
syntax file & function folding included.
also available via paketmanager -> scite

I just looked at the Eudora web site and this is a big problem with 
Eudora.  They tell how to delete the index files to let the program 
rebuild them. But if that doesn't work they say:


If the mailbox does not display your old mail or if Eudora crashes, 
the mailbox is irreparably damaged or corrupted.


You can make a final ditch effort to try to recover the text of the 
email. With Eudora completely closed, go to the backup of the .MBX 
that you saved in Step #4 above. Open that .MBX with a Text Editor, 
like Notepad or Wordpad. If there's any recoverable data, a Text 
Editor may be able to read it.

want it be simploer and speeder to adapt our parse / rendering engine 
to a well know rock stable editor I propose inkScape. I yet provide 
two reference files made with inkScape.

I think trying to arrive to the level to inkscape in our own SVG 
DRAW MAKER software will take more than one year to redone it with 
REBOL... So to avoid loss of time we can yet work on the engine for 
rebgui feeting to InkScape SVG format then we can start working to 
our own SVG DRAW MAKER made in full REBOL... One thing that afraid 
me a little is the flexibility of the SVG format as it can be very 
different how to support any SVG file comming from any EDITOR ? For 
me SVG appears to me to be close to what we done with MakeDoc format. 
Today we have many MD like format all very good but to make a Viewer 
in rebol that support them all it wil be very very difficult.

Requesting Opinions.  Being a crusty old forther, I really really 
miss the immersive nature of the block editor environment.  Coding 
in forth meant never leaving forth.  Editor, debugger, disk drivers 
etc... all forth commands.  No need to ever have the brain exit forth 
mode.  Now that Rebol is my language of the future, I kinda pine 
for the past.  The wonder and beauty of Rebol keeps being interrupted 
by decisions on what to use to edit that last little bit of script. 
 Notepad, Crimson Editor, Rebol editor? A small annoyance but it 
still disrupts the brain from getting to streaming mode.  So now 
to the question.  My first crack at a forth block editor dialect 
failed miserably.  Dialects need to be LOADable for parse to function. 
 Editing source code makes for unloadable situations.  Do I just 
give up on it and learn to live in the third millenium?  Write a 
utility that doesn't use dialects (which seems to unRebol the solution)? 
 I thought I'd ask you guys, just in case there is a light shining 
in front of me that I can't see.  Thanks in advance.

Well, I've never gone Forth, and I'm not sure what a block editor 
is, but maybe you can benefit from some console commands. I almost 
always use Crimson Editor. I have an EDIT command which launches 
Crimson Editor, and I navigate the filesystem in the rebol console 
using dir-utils.r, which supplies unix-like filesystem commands; 
CD, LS, MV etc.
http://anton.wildit.net.au/rebol/os/windows/edit.r
http://anton.wildit.net.au/rebol/library/dir-utils.r

The Ctrl-E execute trick in Crimson is close but it is still a mental 
context switch.  Editor -> Rebol -> editor -> etc...  My old mantra 
was "Compile Link Go...Away, Go Go Go is much better"

I'm actually not using Ctrl-E in Crimson Editor. It's just not as 
simple as launching it yourself, and every editor does it differently.

So the mental switch is between the editor and the rebol console, 
being separate applications.

this is not entirely related, I think (I'm only a bit above beginner's 
level, so I may not be understanding your problem right) but I wrote 
a tool some time ago called Tester. It allows you to write code and 
test it directly without leaving the environment. This is not an 
editor per se, but a rigid workflow tool to write and test code. 
You can read about it in the !Tester group.

Yep.  A small annoyance...Rebol is more than worth it.  I probably 
just give in to the current state of editor/language being two different 
planes of existence.

you can execute inside the editor

Graham; Yep.  Things are close.  I'll get over it someday.  But can 
you imagine the nirvana of a Rebol console/editor?

there is REBOL console editor in library.

I am not sure where your focus is.
Editor-dialect: put the edited code in strings, like
[ #1 {io-code} #2 {gui}]

Patch the inbuild editor to load and store there, instead iof storing 
to files.

And from the console a simple "ed #2" would edit it. but still in 
a seperate window.

Console: Or is it about that seperate window, do you want inside 
that rebol-console-window? More work, but rem-edit does that, maybe 
its author would help with fixing.

Sorry for the confusion here.  A forth "block" editor, uses a 1K 
chunk of disk as 16 lines of 64 characters.  There are forth words 
for the editor e.g.  9 LIST ( list block 9)     3 T ( Highlight line 
3)  P newword: ( n - n) DUP . ;   ( place the text "newword: ..." 
to end of command line onto line 3.  What you get is an editor that 
uses the same language that you are programming in.  Immersive.

Hey, thanks for the interest Volker.  And Gregg thanks for the comments. 
 But I'm still kinda stuck on an editor dialect that could handle 
random text in a parse block.  Even the nifty fed above will break 
on   "p $10,000,000" as rebol can't quite form a money value out 
of $10,000,000.  So the basic question exists.  Is there a way to 
block parse random potentially unloadable text?

Forth has a very (untouchable actually) immersive feel to it.  As 
long as you avoid working with the sad sad current trend of text 
file forth, everything you do in Forth is Forth.  Editor commands...Forth, 
disk management Forth, debugger Forth, locate and cross reference, 
Forth.  Anyway I'm still questing for a REBOL enviroment that allows 
that immersive feel.  No brain switching to Editor, back to console 
command brain, then another brain switch to file manager, bobloblaw. 
 Mondo powerful when you can keep your brain in one mode for a full 
eight hours.  Even building Forth was Forth.  I do kinda miss it, 
but only for semimental reasons.  REBOL is just too cool to think 
about going back.

You beat me to it Gregg.  Starting Forth by Leo Brodie.  It includes 
the old school (and really the only reason to use Forth) block editor. 
 Without the block editor Forth is pretty much just another language, 
with it (and after getting used to EDLIN style editing), you get 
the immersive holy grail.  Thinking Forth is quite a bit more cerebral, 
but I know it's been made available in PDF, but I found this...

http://home.iae.nl/users/mhx/sf.htmlso far.

Forth Inc will send you a copy of of Swiift   http://www.forth.com
 it has a block editor, but they've moved away from supporting it 
so they could 'do Windows'...a pity.  And wait...did I say Forth 
was "just another language"?  Where did THAT come from?   Long live 
REBOL.  :)

and changing the case of text is something that can be relegated 
to a good editor :)

I can open it with my editor, and it looks fine to me (but that just 
means that I don't know what to look for).

If I try to open the downloaded file from my harddrive with Foxfire, 
I get an error message saying the file cannot be found!  But it is 
there and can be opened with my text editor.

I figured out a fairly fast compare method using my text editor.

a better web is coming, just got this from google:

Dear Google Apps admin, 


In order to continue to improve our products and deliver more sophisticated 
features and performance, we are harnessing some of the latest improvements 
in web browser technology. ÊThis includes faster JavaScript processing 
and new standards like HTML5. ÊAs a result, over the course of 2010, 
we will be phasing out support for Microsoft Internet Explorer 6.0 
as well as other older browsers that are not supported by their own 
manufacturers.


We plan to begin phasing out support of these older browsers on the 
Google Docs suite and the Google Sites editor on March 1, 2010. ÊAfter 
that point, certain functionality within these applications may have 
higher latency and may not work correctly in these older browsers. 
Later in 2010, we will start to phase out support for these browsers 
for Google Mail and Google Calendar.


Google Apps will continue to support Internet Explorer 7.0 and above, 
Firefox 3.0 and above, Google Chrome 4.0 and above, and Safari 3.0 
and above.


Starting next week, users on these older browsers will see a message 
in Google Docs and the Google Sites editor explaining this change 
and asking them to upgrade their browser. ÊWe will also alert you 
again closer to March 1 to remind you of this change.


In 2009, the Google Apps team delivered more than 100 improvements 
to enhance your product experience. ÊWe are aiming to beat that in 
2010 and continue to deliver the best and most innovative collaboration 
products for businesses.

Thank you for your continued support!

Sincerely,

The Google Apps team

finally got an editor with find/replace/plugins working (at least 
for me ;) http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/view-script.r?script=install-edit-tools.r

New editor that support REBOL  colored syntax file. This sofware 
is SCITE 1.66 for linux and windows by default REBOL support is not 
activated. edit /usr/share/scite/ScitEGlobal.properties file ( MenuBar 
Options >  Open Global options File) search the line "#import rebol.porperties" 
and remove "#". Save changes (SCITE must be launched from a root 
terminal.) then edit /usr/src/rebol.properties file. Go to the last 
line of this file and set the proper path to your predered rebol 
VM version in the  command.go.($file.patterns.rebol)=....  Save the 
rebol.properties file ( this file can be located from Menubar Options>Edit 
properties>open rebol.properties). Once you make all those changes 
you are able to see rebol color syntax for your beloved rebol scripts.

the scripts are launched into the rebol VM hitting F5 key in SCITE. 
You will notice that the color syntaxe is very more advanced than 
the Crimson Editor one. And you have the  ability to hide the functions/objects 
inside code to make easier to read the script code.

Well this is the concret sign that REBOL  is being more and more 
considered in computing world. This is a good thing and a good reward 
for RT hard work.

The Gripe:


Go here www.Rebol.org, then go here: http://www.ruby-lang.org/en/, 
then here: http://java.sun.com/, hell even go here, http://msdn.microsoft.com/vbasic/, 
now go back to www.Rebol.com


Even if you don't know what the language is or does, do you want 
to go to Rebol.org?  The main page looks like the last page in the 
basement of a website.  Almost like an "error page"

O There is no single location for all Rebol information.

O Rebol.net, Rebol.com, and Rebol.org are spread out and run by RT. 
O There is no pizzas!
O I don't "feel" community when I visit these sites.


I know I'm not talking to my audience when I say; "think of this 
like a night club" but this is what this is all about.  People want 
to "be where the fun is happening."  Even programmers.

My Suggestion:

O We need a site controlled by the developers.

O We need a forum where people can bitch and meet each other, and 
feel welcome.

O The site needs to have a consistent dynamic attractive template.

O The site needs to be a clearing house for all other sites.  Teach 
and directing people to all the resources.

O The site needs to paint a picture as opposed to describe everything 
with a thousand words.

What is entailed:


O Start a new site, I would propose "RebolCentral.com"  I'm willing 
to pay for it, but I don't want to be in charge of it, I suggest 
we make it a committee.


O The main page should cover every topic and reason anyone would 
come to the site.  This means we support every country and other 
site.  The idea here is a clearing house of centralized information. 


O News: The site needs to gather news worthy information and post 
that at the top.  The site is not alive unless people have a way 
to post their information.  This means that there needs to be at 
least one editor, if not several that share the task.  Every time 
a product is updated, the new features are mentioned.  When Carl 
updates his blog, it gets a single sentence directing people there, 
unless it is news of a release of something.  Etc.


O Product Reviews:   This is key.  Products need to be rated, reviewed, 
categorized, voted on.

O Video Archive: All the videos of all the talks ever given   


O Tutorials:  there are a lot of tutorials out there, but which are 
best?  We need to review the tutorials, rate them by Beginner, Intermediate, 
Advanced.  


O Forum: Start with major topics, and then break it down.  The forum 
needs to direct people to other countries, or support the other countries 
right in the forum.  Great simple forum: http://discussion.treocentral.com/index.php?styleid=1


O Respect the real estate.  The #1 mistake people make is treating 
their websites like just pages.  This is just like real estate, location 
location location.  We need to place the content based on where people 
are going.  So you build the basic site, watch it for a couple of 
weeks, then shift things around based on where people are actually 
going. 


O More art, more photos, more community.   It needs to feel inviting: 
http://msdn.microsoft.com/events/pdc/

Stone soup:


I will pay for, host, and supply a fast linux system (w/archive). 
 

I will help design the templates, and provide (and buy if needed) 
great art for the site.

I will not run the site, nor control the content, but I expect there 
to be in place all the items outlined above, set up in a manner that 
it a) runs itself, b) puts the power in the hands of the developers.

Visit  http://www.TGD-Consulting.de/Download.htmland take a look 
at

the final release of Hex-It!. (I posted on behalf of Dirk Weyand, 
since he cannot reach AltME)


Hex-It! is a small but powerful hex-editor. You can use this tool 
to analyse
or alter the "fingerprints" for any kind of files.

Known first as a contribution to the REBOL Demo 2006 contest, the 
final
release with enhanced features is available now.
Features of Hex-It! v1.2.0:
---------------------------
* cross platform hex-editor

* free "save-feature" for small files sized lesser 15 KB, to edit 
larger
  files purchase a license-key that unlocks this limitation
* enhanced spot navigation with mouse scroll-wheel support
* non blocking file access 

* support of large files (a maximum chunk of 1MB file-data is only 
held in
  memory at once)
Some notes and useful tips & tricks on the usage of Hex-It!:
------------------------------------------------------------

- Modifications of files were automatically saved on exit, if you 
load

another file or if a different chunk of the same file is selected.
- Byte selection:

  + Select a byte with a left mouse button (LMB) click on the hexadecimal
    values to the left. The byte is highlighted then.

  + If a byte is selected, either use the cursor keys or the scroll-wheel 
  of
    the mouse to scroll through the bytes of the file.

  + Change a selected byte with plus (+) & minus (-) or just enter 
  its

    new value. Single characters, three digit numbers or single hexadecimal
    values are valid.

  + Use the right mouse button (RMB) to deselect a highlighted byte.
- Spot-navigation:

  + The spot specifies the index/position of a byte in the file. If 
  no byte

    is selected it shows the position of the top left byte displayed. 
  + Enter a number to set directly the spot to a byte-position.

  + Skip a certain amount of bytes relative to the current spot by 
  using

    plus (+) & minus (-), e.g. "+10000" skips 10000 bytes forward and
    "-1000" skips 1000 bytes backwards. 

  + Skip to end of file: Click with the RMB on the arrow-down Spot-button
    or use the "End"-Key.

  + Skip to first byte of file: Click with the RMB on the arrow-up
    Spot-button or use the "Home"-Key. 
- Seek:
  + ASCII- or Hex-Strings are valid queries.

  + LMB click on the "Seek"-button seeks from the current position.

  + RMB click on the "Seek"-button seeks from the beginning of the 
  file.

Please note, that the license of this release is not BSD like anymore.

Client side QML Editor released: http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/view-script.r?script=qml-ed.r

In other words, if you open the exe in an icon editor, you will see 
all the different kinds of icons that are in there taking that space.

IconSushi.  It's not so much an editor as a compiler, importing PNG 
(including 32-bit) and BMP...

Nope, just a resource editor, and those just call Windows APIs that 
Encap can call.

I agree with Graham. I have .R files associated with my editor. Perhaps 
you could pass in a flag to intelligently quit or not ?

Windows keeps track of all the programs used to open a particular 
file extension. Just right click the script then choose:

	Open With | Choose Program


and browse select the file you want to open it with (checking the 
"Always use ..." option if you want to permanently associate it). 
Thereafter, this file is displayed whenever you right-click and bring 
up the "Open with" menu. On my system I have multiple REBOL versions 
and editors available so I can easily choose how I want to open a 
script.


Anton: if your .R scripts are associated with your editor, how do 
you run them? Console session and do?

I have my .r associated with editor as well.  I run a console session 
to run rebol scripts.

Actually I'm doing research work on ricth tex editor with redered 
input ... It"s quite unachieved but I think that's a good work way. 
Instead of having input separated with preview I hope can find a 
good system to have both in same window

Asley I know that it. But that's not beacause RT is working on it 
too that we can't work on it right now with yet existent technologies 
and try to figure out how to do it with the limited capabilities 
(bacause we don't have aaccess to entire VM source code) we have. 
In futur once we yet trully have a working solution and VM will have 
officiallly the new technology AGG we could help Carl on TDM  by 
apporting our RTE/IR (ritch text editor input renderer) code to him. 
it's a base of search for us but it means to be one implicitly for 
Carl If we want to save his time and focus it on the important things 
we have maybe to take in charge some od research work  ;)

Ashley - and that is the trouble - I know NO text editor, which acts 
like that - deleting something to the end simply by pressing ctrl 
+ del?

Oh wow, Graham, it can't be ctrl-Y. I am used to that being redo 
!! :) Let the editor key bindings begin. ... :-O

Luisc so what you need is yet planned and it's called editor-list 
not drop-list ;)

Here's another issue:
rebgui 0.2.4 defines a new global word 'edit

  This interfered with my custom edit function, which I use to launch 
  my favourite editor.
  I'm not changing it for you ! :)

  This is an example of the problem of adding words to the global context 
  without doing
  an environmental impact study first.

  The user should be given the choice whether to export your words 
  to the global context or not.
  But probably most of them don't need to be out there at all.

  My advice is to add only these words to the global context: [

 ctx-rebgui display show-text show-data show-title splash request-color 
 request-date request-file
  ]
  
  --- rebgui.r ---
  
	CTX-REBGUI: context [

		...

		edit: none
		widgets: none
		requestors: none
		display: none

		foreach [word file][
			edit		%rebgui-edit.r
			widgets		%rebgui-widgets.r
			requestors	%rebgui-requestors.r
			display		%rebgui-display.r
		][
			if none? word [set word do file]
		]
	]

	;if not value? 'edit [do %rebgui-edit.r]
	;if not value? 'widgets [do %rebgui-widgets.r]
	;if not value? 'requestors [do %rebgui-requestors.r]
	;if not value? 'display [do %rebgui-display.r]

	; export DISPLAY and the accessor functions to global context
	foreach word [display show-text show-data show-title splash][
		set word get in ctx-rebgui word
	]


  And each file no longer has a *named* context:

  --- edit.r ---

	REBOL [...]
	
	context [...]


  The above changes should mean few changes to the rebgui code. For 
  example, the body

  of the display function refers to the widgets context, but this is 
  still accessible
  because both DISPLAY and WIDGETS are inside ctx-rebgui.

Ashley, I just ran the data section in View and then did a mold/all 
on the data to get the first version and wrote it to the clipboard 
and pasted it in a text editor. I copied the binary sections to a 
block and then ran a: "" foreach x data [append a rejoin ["64#{" 
enbase/base x 64 "}"]] , and then wrote a to the clipboard and edited 
in the #[image! ... specs into the resulting data. I may have missed 
a step, or there may have been duplicate images in the source data. 
The process could be automated easily though.

Don't know inkscape, But I'm on a Draw editor script since yesterday 
;-), but, hey, chhhh...

in some ways you have to implement a mini editor for the field.  
prevent scrolling. skip over characters.

Anyone know how I can replace the editor used by RebGUI with the 
one use by VID  (until it gets fixed by Ashley ) ?

is there anybody here at the moment who can help me develop a csv 
editor interface(, so i can easily translate the qtask interface 
to hungarian)?

except the cursor keys and page up/down don't work in the text editor 
as of yet.

2) No, Shadwolf  and I have done a Reblet that renders MDP documents. 
Something like his MDP-GUI. The idea is to use such a browser (with 
an attached editor) as base for a x-internet wiki system. Distributed 
via IOS.

Gabriele; Really?  Is it just my small brain...but I can't focus 
on more than a webpage, an editor or altme  and gizmo and that all 
fits fine on on a 15" lcd.  When I work on the 21" that the graphic 
designer uses, I just get distracted.  I sit beside the 21, a 19 
but prefer to work on the 15.

also while working on qtask i used to have the debug console on one 
monitor and the editor / browser on the other. how much faster it 
was than when i was using one monitor only!

Hi Anton -- This is my simulated input for a unicode text file:
	Line1...10....+...20....+...30....+...40....+...50
	Line2...10....+...20....+...30....+...40....+...50
If I run this code:
	InFile:		%"Small In unicode.txt"

 InText:	rejoin extract read InFile 2	; Convert from UNICODE to ANSI 
 but keeps double spacing.
	OutFile:	%"Test Out.txt"
	write OutFile InText
	print InText	
I get these results
	ÿLine1...10....+...20....+...30....+...40....+...50
	
	Line2...10....+...20....+...30....+...40....+...50
	

I get them in the output file when I use the Rebol editor, and in 
notebook (when I open the file) and I get them in console when PRINT 
InText.

Here is a piece of code from graphic editor.... I have problems with 
"insert-event-func"

I red part of docs (6.4 Focus and Keyboard Events)  but it doesnt 
help......... Well so far I'm ok, my editor can move on.... :)

Its ok like this... :) I can make what ever I need for my editor 
using this method. I guess things will be more controllable in R3...
Thanks again for help!

This is also how Maya is built. A powerful 3D engine and a comprehensive 
programming language which builds the editor. A little like Emacs.

re: Google Calendar:  Chris Sherman, executive editor of Search Engine 
Watch.com. "The interface is classic Google--clean, crisp and relatively 
uncluttered.... The one down side to the program is you have to be 
online when you use it"

The http://www.bluishcoder.co.nz/2006/06/unenterprisey-languages-meeting.html
meeting was mildly interesting.  Robert Strandh showed how he reimplemented 
metafont in common lisp with the main aim that he could provide print 
services for his G# music score editor.  This was implemented as 
a DSL, and printing done by converting the DSL to postscript.  Familiar??

isn't it because you are a web guy? You know how to do design, you 
have visual editor etc. What would be needed for you to turn it into 
comparatively looking rebol equivalent?

I would like some support for a summary, with an editor, not threads. 
ability to write a summary for a block of messages.

hmm, detailed problem - he had zip code defined as integer in some 
sqlite editor. Then he has rebol form, with fields ... and he saved 
empty zip code field ... so he saved "" to db, where number was required 
...

WTF! I got burried by very strange behavior, which I would like to 
know what happened. IMO it is not related to SQLite itself, but maybe 
it is a deeper REBOL bug? Simply put I have following statement:


sql "update or ignore produkty set kod = (select novy_kod from prevodnik_devitky 
where prevodnik_devitky.kod=produkty.kod) where exists (select kod 
from 
prevodnik_devitky where prevodnik_devitky.kod=produkty.kod)"


... and I was becoming crazy, that the update did not happen. No 
indexes used (well, I am starting practically with sql, so no need 
to mess things more :-), and when I put EXACTLY the same line into 
SQLiteAdmin tool, it was performed OK.


I was really becoming mad, because it seemed to randomly work, when 
I changed/simplified the expression. Then I remembered my 2 years 
old ODBC scripts, when we imported data into SAP, from Database Advantage 
Server. I remembered there was some problem with multiline statement 
unless I used trim/lines.


I thought to myself, well, it was ODBC driver related, but why not 
to try it? So I tried to reformat my query to:


sql trim/lines "update or ignore produkty set kod = (select novy_kod 
from prevodnik_devitky where prevodnik_devitky.kod=produkty.kod) 
where exists (select kod from 
prevodnik_devitky where prevodnik_devitky.kod=produkty.kod)"


... and it started to work from my script. And I ask once again - 
What is going on here? 2 hours lost, which drove me nearly insane 
:-) I use no special editor but Notepad. The statement returned no 
error, so I thought it got performed, just incorrectly. It all seems 
to be related to one aspect - line is too long, so it wraps in Notepad 
and unless I use trim/lines, it is not performed.


Any educated gues to what is happening here? It is not SQLite related 
imo, I just did not know where to put it, as general bugs group is 
not here ....

I found learning rebol very easy because of it is just about words 
if you know 50 words you can write script if you know 200 you do 
it better. All those namespaces, dictionaries, classes ,trees or 
whatever does not help in writing programms and you need to remember 
more things. Using rebol is like using foreign language. Rebol has 
contexts and dialects for changing meaning of word. Maybe every script 
should work in its own context from default? I notice that many scripts 
are written in that way with use of 'set to put something to global 
context. And to be practical I use editor with syntax highlighting 
so every word from global context (set only) are blue so i can easly 
see if I redefine global word - after all it's just warning like 
in any language

oops, I remembered wrong. Opening a HTML-file in OpenOffice gives 
you an HTML editor (without the concept of paper-pages). I'll make 
a test...

launches View but doesn't open the file

 here it launches, IIRc it did that immediate without me setting something 
 (now i prefer editor by  default, so cant check).

and by .r I mean a link that is actually a wrapper with all the crap 
needed to know what to do

 AFAK that is some html-markup, not *.r-created. On IE the plugin 
 installs automatically, on firefox that will come.

And plugins and mime are two things, plugins run inside the browser 
and need some marku (AFAIK), mime-types are launched by  external 
apps (rebol if the server says its application/x-rebol)

You would examine the cached file using:
	editor path-thru http://localhost/slideshow/test.r
But let us see what this returns:
	print read http://localhost/slideshow/test.r

editor path-thru http://localhost/slideshow/test.r


brings up an erro message saying the file cannot be read (perhaps 
because it doesn't exist?)

print read http://localhost/slideshow/test.rreturns 

>> print read http://localhost/slideshow/test.r
connecting to: localhost
What?
Continue?
>>

>> print read http://localhost/slideshow/test.r
connecting to: localhost
What?
Continue?
>>>> print read http://localhost/slideshow/test.r
connecting to: localhost
What?
Continue?
>>>> print read http://localhost/slideshow/test.r
connecting to: localhost
What?
Continue?
>>

Just in Mozilla: Was reading rss in sage, opened bookmark-editor, 
moved bookmarks, sage was updated. i think liquid is for such things. 
also the wiring can be shown graphically. Have seen that with Visual 
Age did that long ago. If it is well done its not a bad idea. I still 
fear it will be hard to debug, since all this wiring is invisible. 
Or maybe: it was to easy to create for me. BAck in that days i found 
such connetion-stuff cool and created a lot spagethi. (was not using 
VA, that method worked with pure oops too^^)

ok, so I have a bit of spare time tonight and will build you a stand-alone 
example of a small RPG character editor.   Using !plug objects directly, 
so you can see the process of subclassing the core plug to have it 
do something usefull.

I am now in the process of adding a skill editor (note, not in any 
way a valid D&D chargen, just a simple example to understand by anyone).

I'll build a second version which has a skill editor  :-)

As you know, I just totaly reviewed how liquid-vid will handle its 
layout (now a live prodecural network in its own), so I am hard at 
work building that, but I will definitely put some time on integrated 
unit testing, when I rebuild the visual graph editor.  its such a 
great idea, as we have discussed, the I/O aspect of plugs cannot 
be ignored in dataflow, so this would be a great way to profile, 
document and verify expected node behaviour.

Finished it today too, some time this morning. Played the whole damn 
night yesterday, I was shocked when the sun rose :) Yeah the end 
left a lot to be desired but Starcraft 2 is a trilogy, so that was 
to be expected. I only hope Blizzard will really manage to get the 
second game out in just one year. I can't really see that happening. 
It'll probably be 3 or 4 years. Did you get to play all missions? 
My mission counter says 25 of 26 missions completed. Where's the 
26th mission and why wasn't I able to play it? ^^ And if I do count 
by myself I get to 28 completed missions in the mission archive anyhow 
so maybe their mission counter is just one big bug. The missions 
are very short but I'd say it took me between 30 and 50 minutes for 
each mission and with 28 missions + 4 bonus protoss missions, this 
is a whole lot of content. Most games only give you 7 to 12 hours 
of gameplay (some a lot less, some a lot more). Starcraft 2 took 
me over 20 hours to play through. And then you still got challenge 
missions, multiplayer, custom maps Vs A.I, user contributed missions 
thanks to the level editor, etc.

I have a question for CureCode users : do you think that adding a 
rich text editor for Description and Comment editing areas would 
be a usefull addition? See an example of such integrated rich text 
editor in the bottom of the page there : http://www.cheyenne-server.org/blog.rsp?view=19&cmt=on

I sometimes use a few HTML tags for CureCode tickets like : <B>, 
<U>, <I> and <A>, but not much more. Having to type HTML code inside 
text areas is not a clean method, that's why I proposed an integrated 
WYSIWYG editor. But it seems not adequate to R3 users. I might add 
it as an option for our customers in a future CureCode version, thought.