AltME groups: search

if you search the net, you will quickly find the direct download 
link for that file from MS servers, without the need for WGA   :-)

I need to evaluate our phone provider CSV data for one year. And 
they mix cell phone and normal phone on the invoice, so I need to 
go down and download details. And as it is pread across per month 
files, I want to do simple counter in REBOL. With read/lines ... 
and subsequent foreach line data [ ... parse line "," .....] REBOL 
is really cool to do such data manipulations ...

I was wondering how to download a 120Mb file from S3

Graham, hang on, I think I do something like that in my batch-download 
function.

This script http://accessories.s3.amazonaws.com/hotmailer.r


uses a secure pop protocol to login to hotmail and download messages, 
and remove attachments.  Should work with gmail.

Just testing my script that logs into hotmail with gmail instead 
.. to download new email, and detach any attachments.  Seems to be 
working now.

You could possibly get this message if you are not directly connected 
to the ISP hosting saphirion.com.

I found this explanation helpful :

http://www.answersthatwork.com/Download_Area/ATW_Library/Networking/Network__3-SMTP_Server_Status_Codes_and_SMTP_Error_Codes.pdf

Anton - why? :-) The doc is new doc in the line of new docs - console 
:-) http://www.rebol.com/docs/quick-start4.html.... I just suggested 
point 6), that simply to get Console you can download /Core, and 
the docl also initially  missed one good feature - auto completion 
...

the nice thing, with phones and JAVA is, that "all" you need is to 
download .jar file ....

we will see, we are not there yet. First R3 alpha has to come to 
the light of the day, to see what the architecture is about. So far 
I can't imagine, whould would I download and install Rebol onto my 
Nokia - IIRC I can download only JAVA apps there, but I can be wrong 
(never did any phone related development myself)

Oh, I'm sure it is quite useful, I am only saying that given current 
trends I would think it should be moved out of the core download 
and that the core download should function on being a web server 
and using the browser for interface.

Yes, well, the main download includes it... and starts up with it... 
I just mean to say that whatever it is that's the small download 
off the site that new users are encouraged to grab and comes with 
standard features would fire up a browser... e.g. even the console

Anyway, just wanted to put forward these ideas.  I am looking at 
what Qtask has done and getting a grasp on their methods... was just 
wondering if there was any push to make those methods more mainstream 
as a replacement for REBOL/View in the standard download.

(Nice thing about making your "one version" linux is that then people 
can download pre-configured VMs with the software installed and not 
worry about licensing of windows or os/x )

Well Reichart believes what I am saying, hence Qtask... I am looking 
at the source and just pondering why they are solving this instead 
of having it be the general emphasis of the REBOL interactive environment, 
in the basic download people get off the web.

Rewritten algorithm (selects the larger now).
load-thru/update these two:
http://anton.wildit.net.au/rebol/gfx/auto-crop-bitmap-text.r
http://anton.wildit.net.au/rebol/gfx/demo-auto-crop-bitmap-text.r
And download this new test script:
http://anton.wildit.net.au/rebol/gfx/test-auto-crop-bitmap-text.r

Janeks, have you checked the download directory for win32 here:

http://www.rebol.net/builds/031/

In a fresh console, does


>> do http://www.rebol.org/download-a-script.r?script-name=clipboard.r
write clipboard:// "Test" read-clip
connecting to: www.rebol.org
Script: "Clipboard" (10-Dec-2008)
== "Test"

work? Which Rebol version do you use?

i download a script wait...

if you download the glayout demo, it will download the glayout and 
slim, for you..

You can download it from here : http://www.rebol.net/builds/

Rebolek, like many other options, things like save/jpg may not need 
to be included in the default slim installation of REBOL, but I'm 
sure there are many users who would love to have the option of downloading 
a 100k+ library, function, plugin, etc. to easily enable this functionality. 
 I don't care if I have to download and do some code, that's trivial 
- just having the option available would be phenomenal.

If you can get the basic system setup, I'll help you improve it. 
 just give me a link to download  :-)

it would be logical with a "Make Zip archive and download" button 
on the front page of that file list...

I try to download it now ... what is different there?

very nice, going to SVN now  to download new build ...

Pekr, whre can I download the new build?. No luck finding SVN
Bloodie beginner!

Petr, well I use one main window, it has one PANE (box) which will 
have all data-form specific parts. This PANE is changed dynamically 
depending on the user choice. I hope to have an english demo available 
of my application that I can provide for download. IMO the concept 
is quite simple to use, and simple to progam.

from where can I download ?

Download and run this script .. it downloads it all for you.

For those who are not developers, Ashley offers a download on his 
site.

Also - did not know new betas are posted. So - please  accept my 
apology. PeterD - you can download nearly new builds from the website 
directly. It was just in the past, that website contained xy incarnation 
older builds ...

Pekr,Graham,Henrik,Ashley, all of you,


Thanks for your help and interest. Everything is sooo new and there 
is a lot of it.

I am to "new" to help with the development part, however I can play 
and test.
Just want to make sure I use the "latest and greatest" 

I used to download from Ashley's site until I realized that I'm 2-3 
build behind.


I will RebolAutomize thinhs as I go and hopefully catch up with you.

Best regards
A newly Rebolized
Peter

http://www.compkarori.com/reb/download-manager.r

Probably not something that will ever be part of the base release, 
but feel free to check it in to SVN and add an entry to WidgetList. 
The pie-chart widget and Robert's chart widget probably fall into 
the same category. I'll eventually figure out a good way of providing 
a base + optional widgets download facility. What I really want is 
a checklist of widgets to download which dynamically builds a tailored 
%rebgui.r ... sort of a "would you like fries with that" type facility.

I found grid.r on trac.geekisp. How do I download the script from 
here? I've tried to cut and paste but hte line numbers come along 
with it. And how do I use it with rebgui?

download - we all use TortoiseSVN, which you can install as an Explorer 
extension to Windows. Then via right mouse button context menu you 
choose -update, and point it to svn archive - you can find link somewhere 
on rebgui site.

No dice. Anyone else able to download and view it?

details are on Ashley's website on how to use an svn client to download 
the latest sources

Ashley, Is there a simple way to get this version, or do I have to 
download & install a SVN client?

Im can't seem to be able to download from http://trac.geekisp.com
I have Tottoisesvn but I kep getting errors. I tried to down load 
from reb console as Ashlley described above but the file is html 
not rebol code.

Costs are $1 or $2 for a download.

Hi, folks.  I am getting back to an application I developped with 
RebGui in 2006.  I did download the last one from SVN, but the app 
no longer works under the current version of RebGui.  I get a lot 
of error messages about show-text, even the most simple ones, like 
--> show-text Fmsg "Warning --  Unable to read Products, Phone&Meet 
and Notes.  No file to read." <--.  Looking at docs, I still see 
the show-text function; there is still some appearances in some docs, 
but there are not much.  Maybe it is deprecated now?  I see set-text, 
but it talks about attributes of text, not its content.  So not shure 
it is the one to use now.  I would need to show the app soon, but 
hesitate to retarget the code, seing the frequency of the error message 
** Script Error: show-text has no value.  Inexistant function, bad 
assignement (for unknown reasons), or something else.  For me, hard 
to know now. From the 2006 epoch, is there a lot of change.  The 
app still get drawn a bit, though.  Thanks for an answer that would 
me out of problem.

after download type "maintenance"/"joueurs"

where can I download this again? sorry for not keeping up. :-)

... which is still the latest official release ( http://www.dobeash.com/download.html
)


118 was the commencement of a makeover but as Graham says broke a 
lot of things. The 118 efforts morphed into an almost total rewrite 
of 'the engine' (everything bar the widgets) and were about 90% complete 
(build 218) when R3 gobs hit the scene (a game changer IMHO).

MaxV,  this works perfectly for me on Ubuntu 10.04.1, using your 
rebol.deb installer - I ran Ubuntu directly from the CD created using 
the most recent Ubuntu download, installed REBOL using your Ubuntu 
package, and ran this script.  Perhaps your version of RebGUI is 
different than mine?  This version loads rebgui.r from an http:// 
link:

rebol []
do http://re-bol.com/rebgui.r
font1: make face/font [
    name: "/usr/share/fonts/truetype/freefont/FreeSans.ttf"
    size: 11
    style: [italic bold]
]
example: compose [
    font (font1)
    pen red
    text "Hello World!"
]
display "Example" [
    style 20x20 data [
        box snow 100x100 effect [
            draw example
        ] 
    ]
]
do-events
quit

Where to download the latest RebGUI source codes? Sorry I found it 
a few days ago but cannot find now.

the RebGUI doc says to download the dictioanries from that page. 
What is the correct page for RebGUI dictionaries?

No, I mean that: pressing CTRL+S on a field, RebGUI make he spellcheck 
of that field, but you must download  your language dicctionary from 
http://www.dobeash.com/RebGUI/dictionary/
Did somebody move that page?

Petr;  It was the MS "Genuine Vista" info grab for the free download 
that led me to Cygwin.  :)  I dutifully registered both my copies 
of Vista, and what?  MS doesn't remember?  <swearword> 'em.  I never 
tried PowerShell.  Once I discovered rxvt I quit searching.  Kinda 
like REBOL.  My progamming language quest is over.  Now the (language) 
interest is only cursory and even though I try and check out something 
new just about everyday ... nothing competes.  Go REBOL Go!

the .dll is just for developers. when you download from rebol.com 
you get just rebol.exe like with r2.

hum crhis the main problem is the interface betwin the common REBOL/VID 
and the side way external VID like dialect (but not using VID) developed 
by the community and promoted by the communnity. All the rebol communication 
is to say  you download only rebol VM  and you are done read for 
work.

Shadwolf - I suggest you to download R3 public alpha and study VID3 
from Gabriele. New VID3.4 from Carl will use different methods (frames, 
scenes), but flexibility of VID3 from Gabriele will be there ...

Yup, that is definitely the case with VID2. With VID3, you are supposed 
to just be able to download a professional looking skin made by someone 
like Henrik and get back to the work of doing your aplication :)

Devbase is supposed to be the instrument of collaboration.  You can 
download it now and use it.

Carl 'In other words, when you download R3 and run it, it will look 
like a web browser."

for example opera webbrowser functionnalities: It render HTML content 
(some times with some strange bug), you have voice speech sinthesis 
to read the content of a page for blind people for example  you have 
voice command system  to operate it, you have widgets (external kind 
of mini GUI  sofware pieces to show you web information on an extend 
way) you have a plugin system with lot of plugings you can use P2P 
bitorrent to download you can connect to IRC read your mails ... 
 So yes now in day web browser are not only web browser and that's 
a matter of  fact  this evolution took 10  years of constent apports 
I don't see rebol going this way in only a couple of month ...

Hum I proposed long along when I was complaining about load/dll unfriendly 
shape to make a ported library repository wich you can find the standard 
libraries and the bridge to use them . the repository could be acknoleged 
by RT who will grant the lib is tested and safe download it and distribute 
is widely

Henrik: "When you fire up R3, you will get what looks like a webbrowser 
and acts like one." - not just that, I want R3 not just to look like 
a webbrowser and act like a webbroser but actually TO BE a webbrowser 
- download R3 (few hunderts kB), run it and be able to browse REBOL 
pages - and if you enter *.html - just show some window that says 
"downloading" and download some REBOL plugin that can display webpages 
(being based on Gecko, Webkit, whatever) - it will be few megs download, 
but people are used to it. This is definitely possible - it's possible 
to display OpenGL etc in View window so I believe there are some 
libraries to do this ("somebody" just needs to make an interface 
to them ;)'


The thing is that R3 browser (and just a R3 browser) will be once 
again a great platform without apps (Be Inc etc...). If R3 browser 
can display classic HTML+JS+CSS+DOM+XML+AJAX+WHATEVER combo it's 
win-win situation. Lots of apps available and we can improve them 
one after one to show it can be done much easier and faster.

Pekr, let's say you want to read a blog post on a "rebpage". Would 
you want to download a rebpage, formatted as a webpage from that 
location or would you want to get a custom fullscreen reader that 
downloads only the compressed plaintext as makedoc format, compiles 
it on the fly and displays it?

hmm, maybe I should post short script of how to download all the 
files at once to your hd :-)

Users can download tortoiseHg now to get some experience

Perhaps the client should download the source each time ...

You would only need to download a changed version. This looks like 
a good job for a REBOL browser reblet.

Reichard...it's by design, that you must download the image to see 
it, or it is bug in Qtask? :)

By design that we make you download it.  It is being treated as a 
file.

when he can download a new public or other R3 Releases ?

wow... 600 files to download mmmannn I've been away too long  ;-)

Steeve virtual blocks scheme still at megashare? I've bad luck trying 
to download.

For these who don't want to read and just download it now... http://www.rebol.net/wiki/R3_Releases

For those of you who scoff at  Brian's opinion, download R3 - ;-)

wow, did I just download new R3 ?!? :)

i just tried to download the new r3alpha.

my NOD32-antivirus guard identified it as a variant of Win32/Adware.Antivirus2008

that' s curious.
I can download with firefox without problems.
but with seamonkey it's no longer available.

Download R3. Copy it to a directory of your choosing. Run it. Enter 
the "chat" command.

That's a link for it, though the download links don't work.

This is what I get when I try to upgrade on my Ubuntu 8.10 box:

>> upgrade
Fetching upgrade check ...

Script: "REBOL 3.0 Version Upgrade" Version: 1.0.0 Date: 7-Apr-2009
Checking for updates...

R3 current version: 2.100.54.4.2 
It was released on: 16-May-2009/22:45:17 

You need to update R3.
Download new release? yes
Downloading...
** Access error: protocol error: "Timeout"

** Note: use WHY? for more about this error

>> why?
Opening web browser...
Couldnt get a file descriptor referring to the console
>>

files are the exceptions, but the tag message for a file (the link) 
is loaded in your local file, even if you don't download it

Yes But i'm afraid that twitter will generate a massive flow of messages 
after a while.
And even if you dont read them, you download them after each sync

liquid is a 40kb library when comments are removed.... I've seen 
similar packages for other platforms take up 1MB for download.

can't download new alpha, tried xy times and still receiving timeouts 
....

It's possible to download it from web using browser (but it's slow).. 
or try to enhance this value: system/schemes/http/spec/timeout

conversion done, you can download A62

try this in R3


>> do http://www.rebol.org/download-a-script.r?script-name=identity.r
Script: "Identity.r" Version: none Date: 7-May-2009/8:59:07+2:00
Script: "Contexts" Version: none Date: 12-May-2006/15:58+2:00
Script: "Closure" Version: none Date: 11-May-2009/19:13:51+2:00
Script: "Apply" Version: none Date: 7-May-2009/9:25:31+2:00
== make function! [[
    "finds out, if the VALUE is mutable"
    value [any-type!] /local r
][
    parse head insert/only copy [] get/any 'value [

        any-function! | error! | object! | port! | series! | bitset! |
        struct! | set r any-word! (
            either bind? :r [r: none] [r: [skip]]
        ) r
    ]
]]

>> a: [z] append/only a a
== [z [...]]

>> b: [z [z]] append/only second b second b
== [z [...]]

>> c: [z [z]] append/only second c c
== [z [z [...]]]

>> equal-state? a a
== true

>> equal-state? a b
== true

>> equal-state? a c
== true

do http://www.rebol.org/download-a-script.r?script-name=identity.r

Signing a module only gives a user someone to blame if things go 
wrong - it isn't real protection. But I agree, code signing would 
be nice, especially for extensions since you can't just read the 
code very easily. The checksum support works for verifying the code 
matches what you expect though.


The module system is designed with security in mind, not closing 
the source. If you want closed source make an extension, or encrypt 
your REBOL source (like R2 encapping), or build your own host program 
(the R3 version of encapping), or download the source from a secure 
server and protect the words that refer to it so you can't get at 
it through reflection at runtime. REBOL still isn't compiled, sorry.

The question is, if it should create sandbox for each user, I mean 
letting user to download something, save something, call something, 
parse it, etc. Or do you want to limit console to prevent file operations 
for e.g.?

The perceived problem with the name REBOL, is that it's very over 
exposed. Count the number of times you see REBOL, REBOL, REBOL, REBOL 
in capitals from the time you download R2 to the time you are fiddling 
around in the Viewtop. Too much exposure of the name. But it's because 
Carl is proud of the name. Tone it down for R3 and we'll be fine.


Some people think REBOL is a derivative of ALGOL or COBOL, but that's 
a separate issue.

In addition, there are modules like Chat that are not bundled. Those 
are compressed modules, that download on demand.

Doc needs to remove faulty binaries if they are still available for 
download.

I use Cheyenne as a helper application.  Now my main application 
occasionally has to access files from S3 but synchronously.  Since 
the s3 tools don't have async versions, does it make sense to perhaps 
to use RSP to download the S3 files I need.  I can call RSP async 
from my app.

doc, no I didn't as that would start up a new App process which seems 
excessive to just do a download ... especially when Cheyenne is already 
running in the background :)

I think I can just include the S3 libraries in the Cheyenne binary, 
and do a S3 download as a rsp form where I submit the filename, bucketname, 
and access keys

2.7.6.3 is the REBOL version. Cheyenne versions are the ones listed 
here :  http://cheyenne-server.org/download.shtml

So, I guess you're probably using v0.9.19. Could you make small RSP 
scripts that exhibit this issue and send them to me by email?

can I download the SVN version (where?) so I can test it here too

I can download it from the web

Forget that.. download the latest Google Chrome beta and start playing 
with websockets :)

maybe I should download from svn too then. Just some do/global and 
session/add. I tested many times and I can clearly see that whichever 
I visit first after restart becomes "global" and runs also in webapp 
on different v-host. I will try with svn version and report. Maybe 
this problem and problem with logs are related and were both solved 
back then.

Just use a svn client to download the repository, run the source 
version once, and then encap it.