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Hey, I found a really neat GUI interface in the Picasa photo organizer 
program from Google. (http://www.google.com/downloads/) If you download 
it or already have it, just click the "Timeline" button near the 
top of the screen. I think it would be really neat if someone could 
make a REBOL clone of that screen.

what kind of presentation are you talking about? Is it anywhere in 
DevCon download section?

Has anyone made a utility to download a complete web site?

%s %s does work. it's how mine is set up. Preferable to not use .r 
extension on IIS, otherwise it gets confused when when you just have 
a script for someone to download.

try microsoft's antispyware .. it seems to be able to keep the pc 
stable enough to allow you to download other antispyware tools to 
clean up the pc.

Is there a rebol script to download Open Financial Exchange data 
from a bank?

http://www.ofx.net/ofx/default.asp

it was some free download c compiler.

MAybe could be used to run scripts which insists on a special version. 
then the current one could be patched with a few-kb-download :)

when you update the detective, you only download the rebol code. 
the interpreter can be updated too, and you just download a new compressed 
interpreter.

Robert - my experience is only that e.g. for Nokia, you need their 
Suite. Symbian communicates via mrouter.exe, which you can download 
separately. Have you ever tried to get various phones connected via 
bluetooth? A nightmare. Bluetooth "simulates" serial connection. 
Symbians are used to initiate connection themselves. So they will 
disconnect PC and try to connect back. But they communicate with 
mroute.exe, which serves as gateway or so ...

read-thru/check with binary checksums. Each version in own folder. 
Updater points to the next folder. which usually  is empty. once 
a version is there, download everything, run a update-data.r. then 
run this versions look-for-update. Continues until no never version 
there. Look for detective/ask Gabriele how to check that its really 
all your code.

What I did was embed a version number .. a tuple in the exe.  Each 
time it first accesses the internet, it checks to see if there is 
an upgrade by querying a cgi script which returns the current version 
number.  If there is a higher version, it just offers to download 
it .. download location is always the same.

I think there's some flaw with download.com ... about a zillion people 
download something, and only a few comment.

I think it needs a news section, a chat section, a download section, 
a place to vote and comment on software.

Knowing the download is useful, but outright voting/ranking is needed.


Off the top of my head a script needs:

Category
Lines of code
Author(s)
Publisher
License
Requirements
One sentence description.
500 word description.
filesize
Date of last update 
Version

History (when it was updated, lines of code, version numbers, etc).
Screen shots (if applicable)
Average rating
Review formatted as Pro and Con.
Editor's rating & Review
Comments: (hangs off the forum)

Yeksoon, I don't think IOS is where topics should be had, but offering 
a public IOS system that does "something" could be cool to show off. 
 Sort of like a model house.  No?


Peter, I actually did not know who ran Rebol.org (see!  My point 
exactly about -centralizing information, :-)   )


I think we could work together though.  As far as I'm concerned, 
anything built for RebolCentral.org will be open and free for trade. 
 Perhaps we can build and lock down templates that get carried to 
the other sites to create unity.


I see no reason to replicate anything as well.  In other words, if 
possible, we build one database of all content (perhaps what is already 
on Rebol.org) and leave it there, simply build a review system that 
points to it.  Most download sites work this way.  They are just 
a clearing house to other sites.

Where can I get the latest SDK download from?

I am not sure - even with rebol (core), if you want gui, you have 
to download View :-) I am not against kind of standardising upon 
good modules, but not sure if I want one big exe with everythign 
inside. :-)

I have also suspicion, that some of you guys, e.g. Gabriele (I mean 
it in a friendly non complaining mode :-), don't mind having everything 
in one .exe. Neither do I in fact, View is still small in today's 
terms - but - if we talk small devices - it is not. Go and try to 
download it via GPRS I use with my cell phone - it does not look 
like a small app to upgrade in any way :-)

I've found the PuTTY suite of tools good: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/download.html
Maybe PSFTP can do the job?

I think it has to do with the fact that many service providers will 
timeout an http port  xfer even if its still working.  and that amounts 
to about 6MB .  I have that kind of effect with gmail.  if I try 
to download something larger than 3MB it fails... because of the 
length it takes to download with my phone  modem

We had to do an update, the "download file" was driving me crazy.

How does Altme! keep track of  a client's cach of messages? Does 
it update based on differences from the messages on hte client machine 
or from the server? What I want to know is: if I use altme from two 
differnet computers will I always get a full update when I log on 
or will I lose messages if I loged on a different computer before. 
I'm having trouble updating on a computer I  recently installed Altme 
on. I am not able to get many of the groups to download the old messages.

Is there a way to manualy download the messages for a perticular 
group?

It updates based on the list from the client.  You can install on 
multiple computers using the same account and it will download all 
the messages to ensure your clients are up to date.

Is there a way in ALTME to make all files not download when a user 
is outtside the firewall?

it would be nice to see a list of files that you are about to download 
in the file sharing module. there's nothing useful about seeing dialogs 
with "There are 5 files to download.".

I am getting an error after 1) download altme to new PC; accept updates; 
 enter Rebol3 world;

Some observations for Reichart on making ALTME more viral.

1.  Host all worlds for free but unsecured.
2.  Tier packages
3.  Enable one click access from external sites to ALTME worlds
4.  Ads Tier


1)  Regarding #1 - I think if you host all ALTME worlds for free 
that people will sign up quickly.  What would drive someone to fork 
over the cash is going to be traffic.  I can bet that once someone 
starts getting traffic to their world and generating content they 
are going to want to keep it.  ALTME owns the content of the worlds 
until someone secures it with payment for the hosting account.  (Major 
incentive that rewards growth).


2) Make product tiers that  target hosting accounts towards gaining 
income and visibility for their hosted safeworlds.


3) Think of going to a website and it says something like JOIN the 
DISCUSSION and then says click here and has a small ALTME logo that 
launches you into ALTME and then takes you directly to the particular 
safeworld.  and if someone doesn't it have it - it takes you to ALTME 
download link.  Almost all other messaging mediums have this capability.


4) This is an excellent idea to compliment number 2.  One tier that 
can be offers for additional costs would allow ADVERTISEMENTS within 
the safeworld framework.  For example, consider many online forums 
generate revunue from Google Adsense by placement of ads in their 
content.  ALTME could offer this type of capability as well.  This 
is really an area where I think that REBOL can get great exposure. 
 If advertisements are required to be put forward in REBOL code this 
means that Google would have to have REBOL programmers develop delivery 
content to interface with ALTME.  I have no doubt in my mind that 
they would do it.  ALTME can boast that it has www.rebol.com as a 
marketing partner and REBOL.com according to marketleap.com is a 
"contender" class website showing that ALTME can get the word out 
if it really wants to.

One other possibility......We could have a "request membership" form 
on REBOL.org.
That'd explain the need to download the client from Altme.com.

And it'd send an email to an Admin requesting the person be let in.


So all we need is an Admin who is willing to be the recipient of 
that email.
Any takers?

The nice thing is AltME asks you if you want to download large files 
or leave on the server, and highlights these icons with different 
coloured backgrounds.  so they are accessible and ready when you 
want them to be downloaded.

That's a similar feature as the newsgroup readers. Along those same 
lines, AltMe could just download the file list with comments instead 
of the files themselves.

Download 1.2.18, and try again.  This will tell us.

www.altme.com/download/altme-18beta.exe

Pekr: I could use that feature too. Where would the button be put, 
in the divider options panel perhaps?
Henrik: 1.2.20 fixes that bug.
Will: what download failed? On auto update or exe?

Terry: can you explain "duplicated itself"? Do you mean it was sent 
twice?

osx10.6.2/intel it says "A change has occurred that requires you 
to download a newer version of the software. Download it now?" than 
it says this file is not found http://www.altme.com/download/altme025

ALERT: an OS X Intel update to AltME is on www.altme.com/download

www.altme.com/download.html

... maybe .....if they're still available to download

I'd have to download all messages for this - is there a way to get 
full history for all groups at once? How long does it take?

For anyone using Vista or Sys7, there is a new AltME to test that 
installs better:

  www.altme.com/download/altme26c.exe


We want to release it in about 12 hours, so if you have any problems, 
please let me know.

We normally test with regular user (Cindy's task.)

%appdata% works on XP.  Perhaps added to an SP?


This release should do the right thing. Even if you installed earlier 
in PF, it will try to move it, unless you opt not to.

www.altme.com/download/altme26e.exe

Hello everybody, anytime I start AltMe I receive the message that 
there is a file to download. If I click yes, I obtain (you aren't 
allowed). If I click no, next time I start AltMe I obtain again the 
message.
Is there a way  to stop this pop-up?

do http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/download-a-script.r?script-name=request-date
.r

Because I'm writing scripts on more than one computer I need to sync 
files somehow. I can use flashdisk for synchronization, but USB is 
not always available or I forget my flashdisk at home, so it's not 
always the right option.

Or I can use ftp to upload and download files. But at the end I've 
got lots of different directories with different versions, because 
I have no intelligent file structure.

I was inspired by Google filesystems for win and lin so I decided 
to use some freemail (gmail preferably) for my scripts maintaing. 
Unfortunatly, Gmail needs some authentication, SSL or what and SSL 
under Rebol needs Command and Command needs 350$ to buy.

So I found another freemail provider that offers both non-authenticated 
SMPT and POP and therefore is OK for REBOL (btw. remeber the old 
REBOL example? send [luke-:-rebol-:-com] read http://www.rebol.com? Hard 
to do with all the authetications required today.) and I started 
coding.

The result is a small application called %rspace.r that can upload 
file to repository, download newest version from repository, or you 
can get list of all files in repository and finally, if you're happy 
with your script, you can publish it on www/ftp. All this with documentation 
in less than 6kB.

All you need is REBOL and mail account cappable of SMTP/POP without 
authentication. It's good to have an FTP account for publishing files 
but that's not required. If you do not have an mail account, I've 
set up one on seznam.cz, user 'rebolspace' and pass 'spacerebol' 
for testing this application (it's built in, so you can start testing 
right after download).

Remember, it's just alpha, does not have many features, but it works, 
I can write something here, update it there and have all the versions 
accesible from everywhere. It's written for REBOL scripts so with 
big projects it's going to be very slow and unusable, but for small 
project (and most REBOL scripts are really small) it's probably good.

So download it form http://krutek.info/rebol/rspace.r(stable) or 
http://rebolspace.sweb.cz/rspace.r(latest published version). 

WARNING: because [rebolspace-:-seznam-:-cz] is open account it won't be 
wise to use it ordinarily. Please, if you like it, set up your own 
account and use it instead of built-in one.
And remember: all suggestions and fixes are welcome.

go and download Look @ Lan ... it si not further developed, but I 
use it often ...

rebol could download the code from the client. could be signed maybe.

If you download the src code the paths is user-path/orca/trunk/orca/tests/

I was going to ask what is a good hex editor to download into ubunto...but 
then I figured out I should just use a REBOL hex editor...if I need 
to to change I can just change it myself.

http://www.tgd-consulting.de/Download.html

I just hacked the graph-layout stuff found in Rebol-Framework into 
a standalone using the new AGG stuff. Very cute and fast!! Take a 
look at: http://www.robertmuench.de/download/graph-layout.r

Ok, that was weird!  I just started View and it told me there was 
a new version to be downloaded and when I clicked download it popped 
up a file requester asking me where I want to download view.exe to. 
 The weird part is the default path it popped up was C:/Program Files/Common 
Files/System/Mapi/1033/NT  Where the hell did that come from?

http://www.rebol.com/download.htmlshows the new download versions

Officially released 10-jun according to the download page:
http://www.rebol.com/view-platforms.html

ok, am I understanding this correctly?


1. Find and download the older desktop-source (which I guess includes 
edi.r)
2. Start Rebol/View and issue the command 
    %edi.r ctx-edit

Right?

It is already nice we are offered new version, but would be even 
cooler if it would offer (we can ask user for that) to install after 
download. btw - change those old buttons on the upgrade dialog box, 
as it is incompatible with new button look we use for Dekstop ...

http://www.rebol.org/library/scripts-download/registry.r

Here is fun script from Bo (with help of Anton) - plese add it to 
Desktop demo folder :-) http://www.rebol.org/library/scripts-download/swintro.r

Will, R2/Forward is already available for download in DevBase (R3 
chat). It is a little outdated though, since I had to take a break 
to rewrite R3's module system. I'll catch up when I get the chance. 
The percentage of R3 that I can emulate has gone down drastically 
since the last update, since R3 has made a lot of changes to basic 
datatype behavior since then. We'll see what we can do.

Many bugs were fixed, including several regressions from earlier 
releases. The window decorators don't destabilise the system anymore. 
The installation procedure is greatly enhanced with options to fix 
hardware support problems. The native web browser is replaced with 
Webster, based on a newer version of the WebKit engine. Many enhancements 
were made to standards support, leading, among others, to the ability 
to run QEmu - so now you can run virtual machines. The documentation 
was improved and several translations were added. Read more in the 
full release notes: http://downloads.syllable.org/Syllable/i586/systems/Desktop/0.6.6/README-SyllableDesktop-0.6.6.txt
ISO CD images, (VMware) emulator images, an upgrade pack and documentation 
are available from the download page: http://web.syllable.org/pages/get-Syllable.html
Extra software is available here: http://web.syllable.org/Syllable/downloads.html

Yes, did you download our VMware image?

There's more information about this in the startup menu, on our download 
page and in our FAQ

If you're interested in the preview, contact me privately here for 
the download link

The download is 260 MB and the installed footprint is 1.5 GB

I use TinyME, but it currently doesn't have a download, and the previous 
stable release of Wolvix, but it currently doesn't have a stable 
release and the new versions are much bigger

Have you ever evaluated TinyCore Linux? It's from the former developer 
of DSL (Damn Small Linux). On a modest Atom, it boots to a minimal 
desktop in about 7 seconds. Of course, it has almost nothing by default. 
The first thing you have to do is download packages of stuff you 
need.

You'd have to follow the instructions on our development site to 
set up your Syllable installation for compiling software, then download 
the Syllable source code and start hacking the PS/2 mouse driver

From the RP site I mentioned: http://www.roaringpenguin.com/files/download/rp-pppoe-3.10.tar.gz
	GPG Signature: http://www.roaringpenguin.com/files/download/rp-pppoe-3.10.tar.gz.sig

I'm releasing a new Syllable Desktop development build tomorrow. 
Here's a torrent download:

SAmple rebol code to check and get for script official plugins:
REBOL [

 "a project that use rebGUI"

]


check-plugin rebgui ; do a test if the rebgui package is installed 
on the rebol/view local install -> if not download it and install 
it

However, it can be a good double check after the decision to download 
has already been made and the file downloaded.

a little self-extractor. kind of rip, but smarter (IMHO). could be 
used to zip the initial download. http://polly.rebol.it/test/test/mixlib/builder/selfextractor.r

Qtask Spell checker ... YES PLEASE. Ideally we could provide links 
to download required functionality / language files as these resources 
may need to be bundled / distributed stand-alone.

demo is at http://polly.rebol.it/cgi-bin/../test/test/rebgui/, http://polly.rebol.it/test/test/rebgui/download.r
. the building is in http://polly.rebol.it/test/test/rebgui/build-archive.r

Ok. I'll download a virgin copy and try this out.

It will take a little while to add that functionality. The download 
script assumes the public cache all the way, so it will be a little 
tricky.  Not really hard, but you will have to be careful.

Asks security-questions from other scripts. And from own server one 
needs a download-script too.

Minor website changes:

Licencing / Development


RebGUI is a community project that is free for both commercial and 
non-commercial use. Submissions, in particular widgets, will be accepted 
and credited to the author under the condition that they carry these 
same licence conditions.


Download

Enter the following command from the REBOL console:

	do http://www.dobeash.com/files/rebgui/get-rebgui.r


To see all the widgets in action type the following from a REBOL/View 
1.3.1 (or later) console:

	do view-root/public/www.dobeash.com/files/rebgui/tour.r

http://polly.rebol.it/test/test/rebgui/download.rscrolls. Slider 
is not updated. but i prefer scroll-as-you-type.

0.3.9 is out and it has a lot of fixes / enhancements. From a REBOL/View 
console:

	do http://www.dobeash.com/get-rebgui.r
	do view-root/public/www.dobeash.com/RebGUI/tour.r


The dictionary file has been removed from the distribution and the 
download path has been changed from:

	www.dobeash.com/files/rebgui -> www.dobeash.com/RebGUI


so you may want to delete view-root/public/www.dobeash.com in its 
entirety first to clean things up.


In addition to the large number of fixes ( http://www.dobeash.com/it/rebgui/issues.html#section-2.2
), a number of enhancements are documented here:

	http://www.dobeash.com/it/rebgui/display.html#section-2.1.7
	http://www.dobeash.com/it/rebgui/display.html#section-3.2.4
	http://www.dobeash.com/it/rebgui/display.html#section-3.2.5
	http://www.dobeash.com/it/rebgui/display.html#section-5.20

Also note the following:

	view-face is now activate-on-show by default

 Added a request-password requestor (its password widget problems 
 are known issues)
	group-box and tab-panel now auto-size

 Table column headings are now always left aligned and clicking the 
 arrow works

 Added an 'effects context (only window is present, but others like 
 'button, 'check, etc may be added in future)


And lastly, you will notice that %tour.r has a new "Appearance" tab 
where you can dynamically alter RebGUI's metrics, colors and effects. 
Note that some colors are still "hard-bound" at context creation 
and won't change - these will be made dynamic (via a set-colors func?) 
in the future. Apart from showing off RebGUI's dynamic scaling and 
display abilities, this lets you more easily prototype a unique look 
for your own apps if you want, and if you come up with a set of options 
that is truly fantastic then share it here and it may just become 
the new RebGUI default.

Enjoy!

tried to download rebgui via get-rebgui script and it installed into 
view-root .... the strange thing is, that HKCU\Software\Rebol\View\Sandbox 
says C:\REBOL\View\public .... I wonder where View is getting view-root 
from?

Cyphre: The download is very slow... just for your information.

Using Ladislav's INCLUDE I get: 
>>  include/link %rebgui-ctx.r %rebgui.r

** Access Error: Cannot open /D/Download/rebol/rebgui/widgets/widgets/anim.r
** Where: include-script
** Near: found: load/all found
if header

- Why not images in svn? AFAIK it can handle that. (download-size?). 
Would be nice if i could checkout and have the real rebgui-demo after 
running some build-script.

- min-size: it was easy to enforce an initial resize if some dimension 
is to small. I did that with a small example, area only.See the posted 
lines (maybe they need to be reversed. I experimented a bit). But 
it fails with other things. (obviously needs a check for presence 
of /min-size, but then the sizes dont change right.)

Oops, are we are a bit OT here, its not rebuis problem? Was in answer 
mode. Although, get-rebgui could download to  the currenent folder, 
not the sandbox. Its for developers, but developers need to find 
the scripts after running it.

By the way, Ashley, I think get-rebgui.r should be moved into RebGUI/ 
directory so everything is self-contained. It's not going to affect 
the end user, since they don't download it.

I have source access but I don't see the "Edit this page" link. The 
last I see is "Download in other formats:"

were new widgets plus fixes already uploaded? I can't seem them on 
my hd, when I download via get-rebgui ....

ah,never used that tool before ... so get-rebgui will not download 
them?

how do you guys use get-rebgui? do you download it to your rebol 
directory? Because - in other case, I still struggle with not remembering 
the url to run it ....

Petr, I agree, that get-rebgui.r should download the current directory.

wouldnt download to current directory be sufficient?

maybe I will even download it as-is now, and change also target location 
.... using cache directory does not work for me, I organise "library 
packages" a bit different way ...

SVN = SubVersion, the concurrent versioning system used by TortoiseSVN. 
 We have started using it to keep files synchronized. You would need 
to download and install Tortoise.

Try this .. download http://www.compkarori.com/emr/synapse.exe

I've tried to download RebGUI from REBOL Desktop (as suggested on 
http://www.dobeash.com/rebgui.html) but it crashes with:
** Script Error: Cannot use path on none! value
** Where: context
** Near: header/version

#include %ctx-rebgui.r

or run create-distribution.r to produce rebgui.r and then

#include %rebgui.r


Note that %rebgui.r is also available at http://www.dobeash.com/download.html
, but may not be the latest build.

Download and install a dictionary file: http://www.dobeash.com/RebGUI/edit.html#section-4.2

Spell-check requires a locale.dat file (which you can copy and rename 
from those under the language directory) and a matching dictionary 
file in the dictionary directory. Example:

	1) Copy %language/British.dat %locale.dat
	2) Download and unzip %British.dat into %dictionary/British.dat
	3) Run %tour.r
	4) Click "Field" then "Area" tabs
	5) Click in the area and press Ctrl+S


This should bring up a spell-check dialog with suggested word replacements.

Louis: The up/download is easy in rebservices. Some things need be 
to figured out, (user-management, no http-proy, allows upload of 
functions, filter them out!). But Gabriele is here.