AltME groups: search

If you are runing View, you can download them all and see if they 
work as well:
http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/download-librarian.r

mpegrec download page: http://www.netwaysglobal.com/mpegrec/

lame.exe binary download page: http://www.snapfiles.com/download/dllame.html

Would a web front-end (with similar functionality to AltME) increase 
accessibility? Or can the functionality of AltME be subsumed into 
QTask? (which is already web-based and has messaging, calender, to 
do lists, etc)


I've seen first hand how readily people will "try out" something 
online (forum, wiki, members area, etc) but shy away when asked to 
"download this software to get access". I think part of the problem 
stems from most Windows users fear of installing any software that 
is available over the net (they still trust and prefer CDs from "reputable" 
companies).

Yes, what is the advice on that ? The beta download page:
http://www.altme.com/beta.html
advises:

# Both your AltME world server and clients need to be updated.
They 
both must be running the newer code. If you only use the newer client, 
but not a newer world server, you will see very few changes.

maybe it would be nice to add the download dialog/decision before 
it starts downloading. I know it is fast on most connections, but 
slightly confusing on my GPRS - it seems like app is being blocked 
"checking for updates", while actually it is already downloading 
an update ... just a suggestion ...

Altme tells me a new binary's 042 is avaiable (linux).. Wehn i download 
it im unable to execute it afterwards..any hint ?

From this link? http://www.altme.com/download/altme-debian-beta.tar.gz

http://www.altme.com/download/altme-debian-beta.tar.gz

Anton, any suggestions on how I can "download" the posts in these 
groups?

Well that's better then. What if I sign up to AltME and log onto 
a group that I never have seen before, does it download the historical 
messages? What if I haven't signed in for a year and there are 100,000+ 
messages in the group since then, does AltME download them?

ok... it looks like file sharing has not been enabled here for fear 
of it becoming too big (i.e. imagine a new user syncing, there are 
already various MB to download, if you had file sharing it could 
really become too big)

Download failed for Syllable Inc./Marketing/De_Graaff_OSS_adoptiegedrag_van_ondernemers_webversie.pdf 
because write-failed - Is the file open or in use?

This keeps happening at the end of the download, so I can't even 
access the file from AltME

Ehm, 2.4 MB. Yes, that could be it, but the upload was OK, apart 
from the wrong status, and the download seems to go to 100%

New AltME release (must download, will not auto update to this):
www.altme.com/download/altme-b1203.exe
www.altme.com/download/altme-osx-b1203.tar.gz

Tried synching to the RebGUI discussion twice, but got disconnected 
at more or less the same percentage. Is it possible to have AltME 
download the "chat files" on a per "number of messages"  basis, instead 
of downloading the entire chat file in one session? That way people 
having synching problems like myself could at least download the 
messages from the discussion group a little at a time until the entire 
"chat file" is downloaded, rather than be frustrated when we get 
disconnected at 99% and retry synching again. It will also lessen 
the annoyance of other people seeing several dots made by the same 
poster.

Just my 2 cents.

Cheers!

where to download latest beta?

http://www.altme.com/download.htmlnow too

Updated to 1.2.6 automatically - first it said "download failed", 
I could see dialog with started initial download, but suddenly I 
was asked to restart with new update - all wen ok then ...

anton:


1. on Machine A, an XP box, I create a bat file and add it to my 
file sharing list on my world

2. on Machine B, also an XP box, I open AltME on that same world 
with the same user account and notice that a new file is ready for 
download.
3. on Machine B, I click it and it downloads.

4. on Machine B, I click it again, and it immediately opens a DOS 
shell window and runs.

Sorry, no there is not -- not online anyway.

You could download all the scripts and do a search locally with a 
few lines of REBOL code 
http://localhost/cgi-bin/download-librarian.r
(the scripts will all be in the /scripts/ folder)

I'd also like to see the download link so I can copy and paste into 
the rebol console

Thanks for the comments, Graham.


3D....Possibly.....But there is one script whose name begins 3D (grandfathered 
in before we insisted names start witha letter), so it could be genuine.


Download....From the "sorry did you mean" page, you are one click 
away from the download link -- so would cluttering that page with 
extra links be that helpful to those who want to view a script.

So I have to right click on the download link and copy link location

True.....But the page you get to does have a "download script" link. 
 That is usable by REBOL.

I'd rather just you fix the direct link so that it's usable by Rebol 
... or, put the download on the page so I can double click and control 
C

Or, you have some javascript that copies the download link to my 
clipboard

No need for second guessing -- REBOL.org already has the "feed me 
a plain text" link -- use the Download script link for that.
That's simplicity......Isn't it!?

It would just convert a "view-script.r" link into a "download-a-script.r" 
link, so that users take, for example, the money.r link and type 
this into their console:


 do get-rebol.org-script http://www.rebol.org/view-script.r?script=money.r

I am downloading http://www.rebol.org/download-a-script.r?script-name=test-framework.r

We've had all sorts of fun trying to get the line endings to work 
for everyone.


There's a magic, undocumented URL parameter you can add to the URL 
that might make a difference on your platform.

It is MODE=????


I'll just cut'n'paste the comment from the download-a-script source... 
it may help explain it:

;; mode=windows -- the default. Makes LF or CR into CRLF
;; mode=binary  -- sends file as binary
;; mode=carl    -- saved and reloads file first as Carl thought
;;                 this would fix the problem
;; mode=text    -- the old default. Works in most cases. Just
;;                 prints the file (so sends whatever line
;;                 terminations work on the platform the library
;;                 is running on.

And the download-script script generates the output by using PRINT. 
Which leads to a terminating LF on Linux and a CRLF on Windows.

Thanks for the advice and debugging.
I'll look at it more seriously tomorrow.

Meanwhile, does this experimental option make it bettter or worse:

    http://www.rebol.org/download-a-script.r?script-name=base-convert.r&mode=andreas

sooner than later, it fails. So I have to download all?

Okay....that's a problem.....the downloader does not pace itself, 
so it triggers flood protection.


Best current work-around is to download the whole set as one file 
-- probably faster too:
   http://www.rebol.org/download-librarian.r

Let me take you off the flood trigger list first.....

You should be good now......but using the updater to download 169+ 
scripts wlll trigger the problem again.

(Another quick fix is to edit the script to put a wait 10 between 
each read of the library)

That does not help. Even after downloading the library and installing 
in the same folders, the librarian still tries to download 169+ scripts

if i click the link i get a file download

I think Sunada has thought to do some download statistics for scripts 
people download.

but I have run out of quota till the end of the month so can't download 
anything :(

Pity they don't advise the download size on the download page with 
checksums

going to download the latest linux again ...

Yes, it will download and correctly install libstdc++5.

That was in the last beta too and Gregg said no. And i am not sure 
about "with any REBOL Technologies products". Gregg said no, but 
IMHO if anyone can download, makes that sense?

If you have an up-to-date SDK license, you can download the new distribution 
from: www.rebol.net/builds/sdk If you do not have an SDK or command 
license, we encourage you to buy one and help support REBOL development.

But this suggests that you can only download it if you have an update 
sdk license.

Check the manufacturer's web site before you but the laptop. If you 
can download all necessary drivers and utilities from their web site 
you might be in luck. Make sure that all bundled applications have 
installers included with the laptop, rather than restore disks. Before 
you wipe the laptop, check it for install directories and archive 
them - and run test installs on another computer to make sure the 
installers work.

You could download a 30 day trial of Acronis True Image Server.

:-) I went to a Ruby meeting, to talk about REBOL and scout for local 
developers, and two of the five people had MacBooks. Of course, that's 
not great for demoing REBOL, but it did impress enough to download 
and try it.

Firefox is supposed to be able to support SVG ( a subset at least 
) without plugins, but I couldn't get it to work.  I had to download 
Adobe's plugin.

This functionality was not present in previous versions of rebol... 
I think it was introduced in some patch this year... By the way I 
dont know wich version of view I use on every other pc... one at 
home, one at work... laptop... I will download newest and update 
all.... :) Thanks for help...

Btw speed, little benchmark rebol, rebcode, c: http://polly.rebol.it/test/test/rebcode/download.r

REBOL is a tiny download, but a very large memory footprint when 
running.
I remember that was one reason for it never being ported to PDAs.

Cellphones also have memory limitations -- both in maximum megs and 
underlying mapping models.
Has the hardware curve caught up with REBOL's needs yet?

Cyphre did find some link to beta Ruby/AGG release, which one note 
of author, stating something like "Download beta release, but this 
is unexpectadly slow :-(" ... which could mean there is still a long 
way to go for them, and we can have REBOL 4.0 by that time ...

I can't install it, need to download .NET framework first, will do 
so at home :-)

1.0.1 available at: http://www.dobeash.com/download.html


Bumped version to 1.0.x as code is no longer "beta" (I actually had 
a few people email me about that!)


Incorporates new IMPORT function (twice as fast as a tight INSERT 
loop) and Robert's nested transaction handling logic (so nested BEGIN, 
COMMIT, END and ROLLBACK statements are correctly handled). Also 
changed logging behavior so all logging is off by default (i.e. use 
/log to turn on *all* logging).

Related: has anyone written a script to download a complete website?

I would like to download the complete sqlite website.

Louis: there's batch-download by Anton, try it - http://anton.wildit.net.au/rebol/util/batch-download.r

batch-download is not suited for downloading a whole website. It 
doesn't do any spidering.

Well, I suppose if you do the spidering, you can supply the links 
to batch-download. Still, it's not designed for that. Better to get 
a specific tool for that.

as long as you use wget in the same location as where you put your 
downloaded files temporarily, you don't need to set the environment 
variables.

Then it's just in a DOS prompt:

wget -r -l <depth> <some site>

And it will download the site to <some site>/ directory

It's probably much better than batch-download at resuming. I should 
study its source to see what it knows.

That's right. It's very rare that wget fails to resume a download.

1.0.2 available at: http://www.dobeash.com/download.html


Workaround to RAMBO#4063. Seems to work with Pekr's and my test cases 
after several thousand runs without error.

1.0.3 available at: http://www.dobeash.com/download.html

Supports latest SQLite v2 API.

*** WARNING ***
Is not compatible with older versions of the SQLite DLL.

1.0.4 available at: http://www.dobeash.com/download.html


Mac OS X version 10.4 support added as per http://developer.apple.com/documentation/MacOSX/Conceptual/OSX_Technology_Overview/AppTechnology/chapter_5_section_20.html

1.0.5 available at: http://www.dobeash.com/download.html


Mac OS X now uses the v2 API and newer dylib path. SQLite/version 
now contains version number as a tuple!

1.0.6 available at: http://www.dobeash.com/download.html


Fixes finalize error as documented at: http://www.mtcnet.net/~henryvm/sqlite/

Or you could download an html-file into the sandbox and the user 
opens it locally by explorer. I guess the plugin would then load 
from the filesystem too. But not sure.

No, they are just 'load with download.

Tell me where I'm missing it. The goal of the plugin is to provide 
an environment for REBOL apps to run within an HTML page. It has 
nothing to do with download.

Tell me where I'm missing it. The goal of the plugin is to provide 
an environment for REBOL apps to run within an HTML page. It has 
nothing to do with download.


This is the second time you have paraphrased what I wrote in a way 
I can't tract.



R: I can't wait to be able to click on a ".r" file and have it just 
pop up and go.
J: How does double-clicking on a r file relate to the plugin?
J: It has nothing to do with download.


I don't know why you mention double click, nor do I know what downloading 
has to do with this.


Perhaps we can get on the same page by simply answering my question… 
when someone comes across a .r file, what happens now?

You can download IE 1.3.2 from http://www.rebol.com/web-plugin.html.

Reichart: Actually, when I click on a .r file for download and press 
"Open", it launches View but doesn't open the file. Why? I have no 
idea. It looks like two things need to happen:

 1. Download should not trigger Open or Save -- this can be accomplished 
 by registering a MIME-Type handler upon EXE install.

 2. It should actually open the file -- maybe the EXE's not picking 
 up on the Open request for some reason.


These are legitmate issues, but they all relate to the REBOL EXE. 
I'm sorry, but it's just not my area. You'll have to pass this feedback 
along to Carl or whoever owns the Windows EXE development for R3.0.

Lets come back to my original statement "I can't wait to be able 
to click on a ".r" file and have it just pop up and go."


You seem to be getting side tracked with assumptions or something.


Q: Reichart: Actually, when I click on a .r file for download and 
press "Open", it launches View but doesn't open the file. Why? I 
have no idea. It looks like two things need to happen:


A: And what should happen, and what 60-90 people will expect to happen 
if this is to be "part of the web" is that it does exactly what Flash 
did (which is now part of FF), and most other plug-ins do, which 
is ask you if you want to install a Rebol plug in.


If the person says yes, then it does its thing, goes back to the 
original .R file, and pulls it in and runs it.


If you are a nerd, you can go screw with your settings to make it 
first ask you if you want to:
O View source 
O Run now


Q: These are legitmate issues, but they all relate to the REBOL EXE. 
I'm sorry, but it's just not my area. 
A: No, it seems this is 100% the plug-in. 


Let me ask a different "set" of questions that might make this all 
easier?


When will we all be able to click on a ".r" file (and by .r I mean 
a link that is actually a wrapper with all the crap needed to know 
what to do), and it will ask you to install the plug-in, handle all 
that crap, and it will go back and get the .r file and run it?

However, I don't understand why the current approach doesn't work 
for you. Why not just make a HTML page that has the plugin OBJECT 
tag, it will download, install automatically, and then run the .r 
script.

Using Object or Embed tag is the only way to tell the browser to 
download plugins. This is the default behaviour and IMHO Rebol plugin 
should follow it. No more, no less.

otherwise they could just download and run the actual application

Pekr: Backwards-compatibility w/REBOL, AFAIK, is only broken with 
the first digit changing (i.e. 1.x to 3.x). We'll follow that process 
with the plugin -- automatic updates from 1.2 to 1.3, 1.3 to 1.4, 
etc., but a new manual download for 3.0 (including new HTML, side-by-side 
listing in "Downloaded Program Files", etc.)

This is why it would be best to use the browser cache for "let me 
store some graphics so I won't have to download them every time" 
situations. Other user settings are small in comparison, and can 
easily be stored in browser cookies or server side. Then, no security 
requestors necessary.

agreed. after all, if they want more, they can download the real 
app. but can have a quick first view by plugin.

Friend and me having fun with the plugin. Really amateurisch :) He 
tries the web-part, http://www.legends-of-istaba.de.ki/and webcaming, 
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7522578118238437287. But 
insist on keeping the real thing secret :) (anyway not worth 10mb 
download for now..)

james_nak: To install manually on FF, download the Opera zip package 
and extract everything to %ProgramFiles%\Mozilla FireFox\plugins. 
You must extract it to the actual plugins dir, not a subdir.

Well, that makes the whole plugin a moot point for anything less 
than a vertical market.. which might as well download and install 
an encapped script.

OK. I'm thinking about using Win32 HTTP/FTP upload/download API functions, 
which use the proxy settings set in Windows.....

No, getting the config won't be necessary. There is full support 
in Win32 to download and upload files via HTTP and FTP, and these 
API functions automatically use the Internet Configuration in Tools->Internet 
Options, which includes proxy.....

yes, but I just don't understand, where http/ftp download/upload 
in Windows is related to rebol networking?

Well, you tell me. Here are your options:

 1. Minor fix to get-net-info that reads correct registry values. 
 Does not handle auto-config, NTLM, or Kerberos.

 2. New refinements to 'read and 'write that use Win32 Internet API 
 to download and upload HTTP/FTP files. Uses whatever is supported 
 by the OS, including auto-config.

Would you prefer (1), (2), or both?

No, I don't think build-pack.r will work either, as it would have 
to download all the data with the script before the slideshow would 
start.

I was playing around with some of the Demos for the plugin. They 
were working fine and then I got hte request to download the active-x 
component. I downloadred thing perhaps I had an older version installed 
but now the plugin is not working. I get a REBOL/VIEWdll window with 
"Show on face in closed window." printed inside. Anyone?

To some extent, yes. We do record counts of "likely human views" 
vs "likely bot views" -- but the stat you see is the sum of the two. 
And the division is not perfect by any means.

I'll slightly reverse my previous statement......The "download this 
script" link is protected by a HTML attribute "rel=nofollow". That 
should prevent well-behaved bots from following the link. So the 
count of downloads is likely to to human rich.

Well, I just got home from work.  I'm cooking some dinner which I 
will eat while watching last night's episode of Battlestar Galactica 
and then I will download Blood and play with it a bit.

do read http://www.pointillistic.com/open-REBOL/moa/steel/retools/download/regraph.r

I'm mostly concerned with communicating as simply and directly as 
possible to the user the current overall progress of some operation 
(multiple file download is first application).

you can download linux vmware with postgresql working ...

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