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Where one can download the OpenGL binding? Don't you want to put 
the bindings into the Red's github?

@Doc: Seem there is a new update for my system. I will first download 
and install it and I'll retry later the Red/system app in Native 
mode.

@Doc : Thanks for the try of the emulator - Now installing the Android 
update for my - almost 50 % left to do after 30 minutes - for an 
88 MB download - !!!  I will retest after everything is completed...

I am ok to download zip until I figure it out ... Did so, and no 
change yet ...

Pekr and Rebolek: could you try to use ProcessMonitor (PM) to see 
if we can get a clue about what is blocking the DLL loading from 
R2?


1) Download it from: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896645.aspx
2) Run it

3) Open a REBOL console and CD to the folder where the DLL is located

4) In PM, drag'n drop the "target" icon to the REBOL console window
5) Type in console: lib: load/library %temp.dll

6) Scroll down in the PM window to look for rebol.exe process entries, 
look for failure reports in Result and Detail columns...

+1 Arnold, although Github does provide a zip download link.

Right, that's new I guess. How many K's is this source now? Ah only 
289 KB couldn't even blink my eyes while downloading it, so there 
will be no real bandwidth issue, I can host one download link on 
my site as well :-)

Hmm, now I might see, what others mean - the Github link is not apparent 
anywhere on the site. Maybe once you find some free time (hardly 
nowadays), here's what I suggest:

- add Downloads link to the top menu

- add just one sentence - you can download .zip archives of particular 
branches from link-to-github ...

That's might help some users ....

Download link: I'll see that once I process all the pending tickets 
for Kaj.

In my Syllable build recipe you can see that you can download the 
current state of a branch the same way:

Calculator Hero lets u fulfil challenging computing tasks with simplest 
operations!! DOWNLOAD NOW 4 iPad ver. 

You can still download Notepad++ (or any other text editor with decent 
Unicode support). I have to drop my good old TextPad as it doesn't 
have good Unicode support.

It's much easier to download a repository as a Zip package or tarball. 
Go to a particular version or check-in and use the download links 
there

ok - I will download v0.3.0 and try it on that too

But in the c-libraray.reds file that is in the zip file with the 
examples I downloaded from Fosil there is this: #include %../common/common.reds 
- but there is no common folder or common.reds folder in that download 
from Fosil - so where does it find this common.reds file that it 
is trying to access if it is not the one that is part of Red/System?

as I think about it, it would be best to have some kind of interpreter/library, 
which would download just once, and then only the app package would 
be downloaded. But that's just most probably prohibited by mobile 
platforms. Having just each "hello world" app to take 60KB etc. is 
a bit too much ....

But thinking about it, those mobile platform policies make it really 
innefficient. I know that most app you download, are just megabytes, 
but still - why not to allow a runtimes to find their shared place 
on the device? Then, all your apps would need just kilobytes of the 
traffic, and mobile operators would be happier. But maybe it is not 
easily technically solvable on such OSes, who knows ....

HI Kaj, I download Your Gtk Bindings and and GLib too, put it in 
red-system directory (it's a write place ?) and I have too problems:

Click click click click, nonsense timeline, nonsense hashes, then 
you finally get to the point, where you can download a ZIP file, 
and it is named like a crap, subdir's name is weird too. I am really 
upset anytime I have to go to such an interface. It is not imo normal, 
in order to get a clue how to get a file, to twiddle around for a 
minute!

Kaj - I meant the Github. You see? I even don't know how the system 
works underneath, it just gives me the link to download stuff on 
the first page :-)

Pekr: maybe you would like to write a handy REBOL script that would 
download all the latest bindings from Fossil repos? That would be 
a useful tool.

You do seem to have downloaded an old version. Go to the latest checkin 
and download the package there. Or better, update with Fossil

I've removed the / from the repository name for the test binaries. 
Fossil was using the title in the download file names, so the slash 
was creating odd results

As far as the wish for a View/VID native solution goes, I wish that 
as well. Maybe it will be possible when the JIT compiler becomes 
reality to easily adapt Rebol's VID. 

It does not have to be complete like VID, a basic set of widgets 
will get you a long way.  

Other solutions are a really good thing too, but looking at GTK and 
myself I find it hard to find out how to get GTK on my mac. It is 
not a standard dmg file I can download and install and it works. 
Other GUI solutions require integration of their package or having 
the end user of your programs to find out how to get it running on 
their machine. That kind of thing can be a real showstopper to global 
acceptance.


I know Doc is working hard and has already stated he intends to come 
up with a VID like native solution. So we can let him focus and be 
silent ,or we can comment and discuss letting him know we do care.

I freed up some space on my mac I'll download latest version from 
github and have a little go. Anything specific to look for/try? Imho 
you are allowed to patch as much as you want, release or not. We 
will follow anyhow.
Great reply! Thanks.

Very good vid even without a fitting musical distraction! 

Today I watched a tutorial for the AVR Dragon, a kind of arduino 
thing, when I heard in that video the programming environment was 
a download of about 500MB and needed the .NET framework I stopped 
it and realised that would be about 5000 times bigger than the programmable 
memory of that board. That is why the world needs Red :)

Sorry to change topic from the current issues (pun intended), but 
I wanted to say thanks to Doc and Kaj for the information about graphics 
on Red/System on Linux running on ARM!  Where could I download the 
GTK.reds file?

OK.  Say I have a fresh Windows PC and I want to start coding in 
Red/System for the target of Raspberry Pi.  Help me understand what 
I need to do.  Here is what I assume needs to be done, but I may 
be wrong.

1. Download R2, I assume.  Any particular version?
2. Download Red/System compiler.  From where?
3. Write the program on the PC.

4. Compile it with Red/System on the PC, but for the Raspberry Pi 
target.  Is that just a setting somewhere?
5. Move the compiled file to the Raspberry Pi and execute it.

Kaj, now that I've had a chance to do some work with Red/System, 
it's amazing to me how much work you've already done on adding features!


Here's something that I think would really help out a lot of us who 
want to make use of all your hard work.  Would it be hard to create 
http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/index.htmlwith a link to all the 
Red stuff you've done?  The only way I found what I needed to download 
was by searching through AltME for links, and had to manually enter 
in things like Red-common, Red-C-library, Red-cURL, Red-GTK, etc.

@DocKimbel, I keep going to red-lang.org to download Red and Red/System, 
but then I remember it isn't there.  Is there any way you could put 
a link on red-lang.org to the binaries?

Maybe along the top, have a "Download" tab where the other tabs are, 
and everything needed to know about downloading it could be there.

Bo: there's no "binaries" (yet) for Red and Red/System, you need 
to go on github and download the sources (using the method that suits 
you the most).

Yes, Github is a bit of a problem - it gets some time to orientiate 
oneself ... But otoh, on the main screen of Git, you can download 
latest archive, just see ZIP button - the link is - https://github.com/dockimbel/Red/archive/master.zip

There's not so many buttons on Github page ;-) But maybe Doc could 
add above link pointing to latest archive directly to his site, would 
make things for beginners easier. Well, looking at red website I 
now find it also a mistake not having download section ...

Red is certainly not ready for prime time now. What we need now is 
testers and contributors. So just putting a link to source archive 
in a Download section wouldn't help much, as users would have no 
clue what to do with it. Again, there's a "Fork me on Github" button 
on top of all pages on red-lang.org. If users have no clue what Github 
is, then they are probably not ready for contributing. I will add 
a Download section once we have binaries for Red compiler (encapped 
versions of R2 compiler for now).


Once Red gets ready (documented and in beta state), I will open a 
new site that will be fully user-oriented (in contrary to the current 
one which is followers/contributors oriented).


About Red/System: it is meant to be a dialect embedded in Red, however, 
its intrinsic value seems to be high and will be higher as we add 
more feature and optimize it. Maybe it could be a good selling point 
for making some low-level programmers come to Red.  As Red/System 
is much more mature than Red, maybe I should think about opening 
soon a dedicated web site for it (would still need a binary version 
of the compiler)... What do you think?

Gregg - the ONLY thing which is really needed, is to add Download 
section to the Red website, pointing to the ZIP button of the Github 
website. That's for those who are not familiar with Git, or to whom 
the Git creates a headache to use. So - is adding one URL to a website 
so much of a challenge?

True, but it takes too much searching to find.  red-lang.org is the 
place I would expect to go to download the language, and it would 
be super nice if the instructions were right there as well.  If that 
doesn't work, the second best would be a link to the instructions.

I think, that there is many potential supporters out there, who would 
welcome - You can download very experimental version of Red and Red/System 
to test here ....

Pekr: trust me I know what I'm doing. But as it will take me less 
time to add that Download button than keeping arguing with you about 
that, I will add it. :-)

Changes done on red-lang.org. Download page added.

http://www.fossil-scm.org/download.html

I wasn't expecting download.r to launch when I clicked to download 
it.   What does Fossil do?

yeah but when I download it usually prompts to save it first as I 
don't have .r registered with the shell.  I must have done something 
recently that re-associated it.  Oh I installed ALTME.  That was 
it.

I made a Windows application to easily compile .red / .reds files.

You can download it from http://www.moldibi.com/download/RedCompiler.zip
See the help file.

Hi! Placed my mirror game (with the slow code still) to be found 
at http://arnoldvanhofwegen.com/stuff/mirror.rebolBecause I have 
my apache thinking .r files are to be processed I renamed it to .rebol. 
Just download and rename to .r and play with REBOL/View.

A first pass at accessing the Etsy API: http://reb4.me/r/etsy


Works similarly to my Twitter API script (a few OAuth differences 
here and there). You can download it, or run it in place (do/args 
... [...Settings...]). As with Twitter, you start with etsy/as and 
go through the authorization process.  It has a few example methods, 
and an open method - etsy/api-call - that can call (as far as I can 
tell) every api function. Will try to document at some point.

After the mirror game and the chessboard interface, the Red compiler 
script and various cgi scripts and showing all how radio buttons 
work in VID, I can now introduce to you the application to play checkers 
(10x10 international, in dutch dammen). Not bad for a REBOL newbie 
right? Wait a moment with all of your nominations please, because:

There is a tiny issue left with the moving of the pieces when playing 
against the computer but it is minor compared to all other issues 
I have already fixed ;-)


You can download the zip file with the program here http://arnoldvanhofwegen.com/stuff/damscripts.zip

Program is started with do %damb.r and you can play after setting 
the color the computer has to play with on the panel you get when 
you click the top-left button. You can look under the hood and see 
the values the program gives the legal moves. You can put your own 
positions on the board and continue from that point.
Enjoy!

Look here: http://www.rebol.net/demos/download.html

and here: http://www.rebol.net/demos/7B191CB087929081/christmas-drive2.0.1.r

Today I have put version 1.0.0 of the 10x10 checkers (damspel) out. 
The script on rebol.org points to the download location on my website 
(because it is a package of scripts more than a single script)
You can find it on http://arnoldvanhofwegen.com/stuff/damgame.zip

Let me announce first achievement of bringing R3 to Android OS based 
devices. I know many of you were waiting for this so long so here 
is the first test version to download:

http://development.saphirion.com/experimental/R3droid.apk


Note this is just first raw port showing the interpreter is working. 
The console input is missing at the moment, but will be probably 
among first things to add so you can have your beloved /Core on your 
mobile/tablet.


If you would like to speed up this developement, donate, sponsor 
or make a bounty for features please crosscheck with Robert/Saphition(he'll 
write more info here as well)

http://development.saphirion.com


I have reworked the whole site. You can download the latest R3 releases 
with graphics engine for windows for now. Further our latest R3-GUI 
release is available too.


The site contains a bounty shop as well, if you want to support / 
donate to some of our efforts. All things we will work on are listed.

Stay tuned, more to come over the next weeks.

I've added a download/update script for the source code of the Red 
bindings to the test repository:
http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/Red-test/dir?ci=tip

there is "labelfont" word in the script? I think there is a end-of-line 
problem on your download.

hmm, it wasn't there when I download it. Now I re-download and there 
is labelfont and it has no value.
but I simple removed it and it worked well.

Looks great Max, maybe all the docs make for a large script/download? 
The syntax highlighting, yes,the syntax file for UltraEdit is here 
for inspiration: http://www.ultraedit.com/files/wf/rebol.uew

It is common to use this FAQ entry as a way to make GPL extensions 
that wrap proprietary components: http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#WindowsRuntimeAndGPL


Developers commonly put links on their web site to the vendor's web 
site to download the DLL. However, it's iffy with GPL2 because the 
actual exception is worded like this:

However, as a special exception, the source code distributed need 
not include anything that is normally distributed (in either source 
or binary form) with the major components (compiler, kernel, and 
so on) of the operating system on which the executable runs, unless 
that component itself accompanies the executable.


Read literally, it would exclude runtime libraries that aren't bundled 
with the OS. It's more unambiguously OK with GPL3.

Kaj, the fossil source browser that you linked to has a download 
option for the current version as an archive - for those who don't 
want to bother installing fossil - i.e. they don't need to install 
file by file

Yes, there are always download links in Fossil. But it's really not 
much harder to install it - easier if you need to update or keep 
the files in order

In most cases, the name of the binding tells you which library you 
need. Then find the official site, the official download for your 
system and see if you need any dependencies

Bo, you have to download the script and than run it. Network support 
is not yet running. That's next.

yes, networking is not done yet.

You just download a *.r script (or copy on your sdcard in the phone). 
Then you can just clik on the script file and file association requester 
should popup so you can run *.r scripts just by clicking on them 
instead of execution from console.

Andreas, good idea.


I'd only add that you should append the rebol version to the executables/archives 
(if ever), so that when we download them, they don't overwrite each 
other.  adding the version will also classify each version based 
on its platform.

binaries are not deleted, so you can still download them, if you 
have the url. i'll probably add an archive page later on.

Graham, do you see the fourth line on for example this page?

http://archives.esperconsultancy.nl/Red-test/artifact/0220fff5fad7661ca4108fc820cd09c1a6078e7d

It says "download" and "Hex". 
(had the same experience as you)

Looking for a direct link that I can give someone to download the 
latest red and red/system windows binaries

Looking for a direct link that I can give someone to download the 
latest red and red/system windows binaries

Anyway, as I've announced many times, if you don't want to deal with 
the versioning system, you should just download everything in one 
package:

Yeah ... managed to download something that worked :)

The download script sounds great Kaj. May need to look at Fossil 
again. 


What I want is a REBOL wrapper that handles everything for me, let's 
me share and sync simply, and hides whether it's svn, git, fossil, 
etc.

This script already hides the use of Fossil. All you need to do is 
download its one file

Is this the expected behavior ?

>> do %download.r
Script: "Download or update all Red(/System) extensions" (none)
Target test
Opening Red-test.fossil failed
Target common
Opening Red-common.fossil failed
..
..
And then there are many empty directories.

If I wanted to run Red on my Windows-based computer, what would be 
the process to do it?  Do I download the Red sources from Github 
and compile it on my computer?  If so, are there instructions on 
how to do it with a free compiler?

By the way, you can download all the files, including the libraries, 
in one go

I'd urge you to just download it and try it. If you love Rebol, I 
guarantee you'll love Algodoo.

What do you mean by the originally posted test? The http://sidl.fr/red/hello
download from Doc's blog is gone

It's gone, so you wouldn't be able to download it

Graham: Thanks. That makes sense out of something someone else told 
me. I thought the information was contradicting what you guys said 
earlier, it just means I misunderstood the order of things. The modiffer 
after the slash is closer to making a new command than it is an agrument 
than I had envisioned. The fact that random is part of both made 
me think they could be done together. Thank you for catching that 
I did not know that detail.


 Next part of myscrip enters something into a database. The server 
 will have an mySQL database installed. It is possible that alternative 
 could be used, but knowing for sure I have at no extra charge this 
 options means I am starting with this option.


 So I found a MySQL Driver for REBOL from here: http://softinnov.org/rebol/mysql.shtml


 I am following the instructions that came with the download. Is there 
 anything I should know. Maybe it is not the driver people use because 
 there are better ones. Maybe the author kills kittens on the weekend 
 and it is consider bad form to use it. Maybe it is harder than it 
 looks. Basically, please just tell me if there is general info about 
 it I should know that is not obvious. Thanks.


Hey, someone else is asking questions? i thought this was all about 
me! :-) :-)

:(
i'm actually trying to do something really simple
i have a bunch of feeds i want to download

i can do that sequentially (foreach feed feeds [...]), but thought 
it best to us background worker processes via task-master to download 
instead
is there an alternative?

working with zmq3.2? i'm wondering if i should download and move 
up to 3.2
...though crossroads i/o looks very good

An unhappy Ubuntu user (seems disoriented, not even knowing how to 
create a new ML thread):


https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/Rebol/iSgc1-dDZLs

I guess somebody can tell him what he needs to download.

pity Saphirion's excel dialect is not available for download anymore. 
Will try with Anton's old COMlib code ...

This is the same file as last week(s) right? So I do not need to 
download it again?

http://www.enlightenment.org/p.php?p=download&l=en

AdrianS: if you have a working 0.6.7 image for VMware, it would be 
nice if you could share it with us by sending it to Kaj (so we can 
download it from Syllable servers).

I'll schedule it for the next days, then. Maybe as an incrowd download 
first; writing articles and updating the website is a large part 
of the work

That would double the size. Not good for a download :-)

I'm not sure if the link allows you to download the file, or only 
to view it on SkyDrive

Skydrive needs a Live ID to download a publicly shared file? That's 
hilarious. I should buy Dropbox shares (if I had the money). :-)

Waited a minute, watched ads, says download will take 61 minutes, 
answered captcha, got popup ads, chose downloading, get same popup 
ad over and over, no download

I was just wondering how I can get a popup. Firefox is supposed to 
block them, but they put them under the download button

you should try the regular download - the other one requires more 
BS

the regular (free) download is the one on the right

I got no popups after the countdown - there was a captcha and then 
a button to download

We see people taking two days to download at snail speed via BitTorrent. 
I imagine they're in Siberia or something. That's why the downloads 
need to be as small as possible

I wonder if it can be hosted on glacier .. then it would only take 
a few days to download :)

We can deal with the iOS download issue if we could just have R3 
to write the code.  Still using Net Logo on the server side.

Is the r3-gui available on the Saphirion site download section the 
most recent version? It's from March this year, and I seem to remember 
some activity on it after that point.

Great, will setup a page the next days, to list the current extensions 
with description/download link to get a better overview.

Just running the first embedded POSIX prototype here with a bunch 
of usefull functions like pid handling, fork, nanosleep, popen, execve, 
sig, pipe etc.

Robert, do you have a download link for your extensions mentioned 
above?

From http://www.rebol.com/cgi-bin/blog.r?view=0519#comments


To download a tarball of an executable REBOL 3.0 program for the 
Raspberry PI (build with Raspbian “wheezy” ) take a look at:

http://www.TGD-Consulting.de/REBOL/r3-RPi.tar

---


pi(at)raspberrypi ~/dev/r $ uname -a Linux raspberrypi 3.2.27+ #250 
PREEMPT Thu Oct 18 19:03:02 BST 2012 armv6l GNU/Linux

pi(at)raspberrypi ~/dev/r $ ./r3

>> system/version

== 2.101.0.4.10

>> system/build

== 16-Dec-2012/13:13:11

>> system/product

== core