AltME groups: search

*Important*: Red will be distributed as a binary to end users and 
the effect of:

    red script.red
    

will be to compile and run it from memory directly. So the -o option 
will become mandatory in the future for generating an executable 
without running it. During the bootstrapping stage, it is complex 
to support that feature, but it will be implementd as soon as possible.

It can be a CREDITS file distributed with your app.

A distributed source control database is essential to my operations, 
so I can't just use anything that others happen to use

Doc, would you consider it sufficient to have a license that doesn't 
require that the license be included with (like MIT code) or distributed 
with (like BSD code) the product? The Apache license only requires 
that the license be given to the recipient - it hoesn't specify how 
- and it doesn't even require a copyright reference be included unless 
the product is distributed in source form. I'm just trying to determine 
the extent that you'll be able to include Apache-licensed code in 
Red, or how much this factor matters to you.

Brian, where do you get that the Apache licence doesn't require a 
copyright reference be included unless the product is distributed 
in source form?

GPL means "free speech" not "free beer"!

 Many people believe that the spirit of the GNU Project is that you 
 should not charge money for distributing copies of software, or that 
 you should charge as little as possible — just enough to cover the 
 cost. This is a misunderstanding.


Actually, we encourage people who redistribute free software to charge 
as much as they wish or can. If this seems surprising to you, please 
read on.


The word “free” has two legitimate general meanings; it can refer 
either to freedom or to price. When we speak of “free software”, 
we're talking about freedom, not price. (Think of “free speech”, 
not “free beer”.) Specifically, it means that a user is free to run 
the program, change the program, and redistribute the program with 
or without changes.


Free programs are sometimes distributed gratis, and sometimes for 
a substantial price. Often the same program is available in both 
ways from different places. The program is free regardless of the 
price, because users have freedom in using it.


Nonfree programs are usually sold for a high price, but sometimes 
a store will give you a copy at no charge. That doesn't make it free 
software, though. Price or no price, the program is nonfree because 
users don't have freedom.


Since free software is not a matter of price, a low price doesn't 
make the software free, or even closer to free. So if you are redistributing 
copies of free software, you might as well charge a substantial fee 
and make some money. Redistributing free software is a good and legitimate 
activity; if you do it, you might as well make a profit from it.


Free software is a community project, and everyone who depends on 
it ought to look for ways to contribute to building the community. 
For a distributor, the way to do this is to give a part of the profit 
to free software development projects or to the Free Software Foundation. 
This way you can advance the world of free software.


Distributing free software is an opportunity to raise funds for development. 
Don't waste it!


In order to contribute funds, you need to have some extra. If you 
charge too low a fee, you won't have anything to spare to support 
development

From Wikipedia:


Therefore, software distributed under the terms of GPLv1 could be 
combined with software under more permissive terms, as this would 
not change the terms under which the whole could be distributed, 
but software distributed under GPLv1 could not be combined with software 
distributed under a more restrictive license, as this would conflict 
with the requirement that the whole be distributable under the terms 
of GPLv1.


So it means - you can't have statically linked GPL and closed source, 
you simply have to release everything. Now the only thing you can 
do is to argue, that REBOL encap process is not a link, just a packaging 
of REBOL interepreter together with your script, but not sure, it 
would be an acceptable excuse :-)

It is common to use this FAQ entry as a way to make GPL extensions 
that wrap proprietary components: http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#WindowsRuntimeAndGPL


Developers commonly put links on their web site to the vendor's web 
site to download the DLL. However, it's iffy with GPL2 because the 
actual exception is worded like this:

However, as a special exception, the source code distributed need 
not include anything that is normally distributed (in either source 
or binary form) with the major components (compiler, kernel, and 
so on) of the operating system on which the executable runs, unless 
that component itself accompanies the executable.


Read literally, it would exclude runtime libraries that aren't bundled 
with the OS. It's more unambiguously OK with GPL3.

So if I follow the FSF's interpretation, I definitely see the collection 
of mezzanines as a library. How they are actually bundled/distributed 
(as multiple .r's, as one .r, bundled into r3lib.dll, bundled into 
r3.exe, something else) is irrelevant.

And it is not distributed at all. Just the interpreter is.

No, the library is not distributed.

good to know!

i haven't seen janko around in a long time - i've been interested 
in using his distributed actors library, but cant find it online 
anywhere

I am new to Git. I'd like to use it (or something similar) to keep 
a distributed copy of a web app I am developing. I'd like copies 
on two local systems (laptop and desktop) with the possibility of 
sharing with another developer based far away and deploying the app 
on my web host.


I sort of get the concept (at least the part about commits, etc), 
but am not really sure how to keep everything in sync. Is it worth 
using a hosting service like GitHub or Bitbucket (I know that perhaps 
defeats the purpose) to assure availability or figuring out how to 
use the web host for this purpose?

I've spent a lot of time with MDP, written a whole distributed application 
with pages based upon the principles of MDP.  The biggest mess in 
MDP is the need to make HTML pages, which is a fossil and pretty 
awful, but widespread.  People need HTML so we output that.  People 
may want PDF, or RTF or Postscript or MarkDown, or whatever.  Those 
parts will always be a mess because the formats of all those outputs 
are a mess.

The beauty of using a distributed version control system is that 
we can still work on stuff without really being blocked by Carl stopping.

I could be in a position quite soon to revive discussions about Classroom. 
 Local WiFi distributed network.

a new year of Distributed eFishAntSea to all REBOLers of the world!

any P2P network needs routing as its basis, doesn't it? Chord provides 
that by providing distributed lookup.

exactly. it is very good for implementing DHTs (Distributed Hash 
Tables)

real P2P (i.e. fully distributed) has *NO* central site

control is achieved via authorization. I have in my mind a distributed 
authorization system - no wonders, just applying known things the 
right way :)

Yes, it is possible. I can actually imagine a distributed operating 
system, where the whole Internet is seen as one single computer.

Yes. Distributed computing will be much more powerful, and REBOL's 
dialecting puts it apart. Enhance the networking part with P2P and 
nothing can match that.

Our open source license is OSI-certified and permits use of Berkeley 
DB in open source projects or in applications that are not distributed 
to third parties. Our commercial license permits closed-source distribution 
of an application to third parties and provides business assurance.

my attempt on RT elevator speech.

less than 20 words version

RT develops the language Rebol, a messaging language which makes 
distributed computing easier across devices

Altme's data was/is distributed.
But there's no mechanism for rebuilding from that
So more scattered than distributed.

Sunanda: it's not distributed, because data can only go from the 
server to the clients. as soon as the server is dead, everything 
is dead.

distributed means that all nodes are equal. and with the right measures, 
a few nodes failing are not enough to cause a data loss.

Gabriele -- I think I have a more relaxed definition of distributed.

it should have been possible to recreate all the public stuff (as 
Brock says) by reclaiming more recent messags from some of the more 
trsuted clients.

Private messages would be a little harder -- but stil not impossible 
with the right recovery code.

**ALL** the data still existed somewhere. Altme failed to re-collect 
it.

The present set up seems totally fragile.  Dependant on a single, 
central server. That's so 20th Century :-)

That's one layer of security Reichart.

But (given that failed for whatever reason -- human laziness in doing 
backups;  tsunami; all kit stolen in break-in; whatever), what's 
the *next* layer?

Secure systems need more than one layer -- as we've discovered with 
REBOL-->REBOL2-->REBOL3.

*All* the data still existed, distributed amond the many users. But 
we threw it away and started a new world.

It's not a a good case study to write up for prospective Altme users.

does already exist any channel private or public about concurrency/paralel/distributed 
computing ? if there isn't one.. does anyone else think we should 
have one?

The biggest failing with Altme is the lack of a distributed server.

not sure how Robust R3 chat is. After all - it is just one of possible 
architectures. It is true that I doubt it is much advanced. It is 
good for Chat, even threading, moving threads here or there, ranking, 
etc., but we are imo not following latest developments of distributed 
apps. Some few years ago I read something about Cademlia etc. protocols, 
but not sure what it is all about. OTOH - look at Altme - it is running 
for years. And if its back-end would be DB based, it would be enough 
for a long time probably.

>> q: query http://www.rebol.com/index.html
== none
>> read http://www.rebol.com/
== {<html>
<head>

<META NAME="Description" CONTENT="Lightweight distributed computing, 
collaboration, and programming systems for t...

>> q: query http://www.rebol.com/asdfsa.r

** User Error: Error.  Target url: http://www.rebol.com/asdfsa.r
could not be retrieved.  Server response: HTTP/1.0
404 Not Found
** Near: q: query http://www.rebol.com/asdfsa.r
>> read http://www.rebol.com/
== ""

*but* also fixes it :)

>> q: query http://www.rebol.com/index.html
== none
>> read http://www.rebol.com/
== {<html>
<head>

<META NAME="Description" CONTENT="Lightweight distributed computing, 
collaboration, and programming systems for t...

 like I've got nothihg better to do than build a webserver in Rebol 
 that can handle POST data

 - I have seen nothing capable of convincing anybody such a webserver 
 was distributed as a mezzanine?

the fallacy of db-centric programming ... is having data centrialized, 
rather than distributed.  If you split it apart into separate messaging 
agents, then you might be able to reduce the bottlenecks created 
by having the data cetralized.

where you have n number  of distributed/remote machines storing infinitely 
large amounts of tidbits of data, de centralised.

Diss'ing IDE's might alienate some Smalltalk folk.  I cannot imagine 
maintaining an application suite such as I deal with everyday without 
an IDE.  I just wish it was not eclipse ...  Of course only wimps 
used a Disk Operating System and real men code in machine codes only 
... and real pro's dictated their SNOBOL punch cards to lovely assistants 
...  and ANT scripts are for sissies.  Some must have ridiculed Tcl, 
Expect and TK in their day ... but if my IDE can facilitate my efforts 
to systematically (key word there) shrirnk company''s codebase as 
it becomes more reliable with better test coverage then maybe a refactoring 
browser would be a good tool after all.  Even better if it is an 
integrated part of the IDE, as in Dolphin Smalltalk or Squeak Smalltalk 
or Smalltalk/X or Cincom Visual Smalltalk.  Not that I couldn't survive 
on grep and diff's.  But once the codebase is too large for any one 
person to author or maintain on their lonesome, a tool that remebers 
what you did last and where can be a god-send.  If you want to know 
hell without an IDE join an actuarial department working in APL. 
 There you don't even know if they have talent: you just hope most 
of it works as each quarter rolls around and try to survive year-end. 
 But you know they're smart, cuz after all, they're actuaries - and 
look at all that APL code in all those files ... of course a few 
of them look back wistfully at their student days in C with Borland's 
decent IDE.  REBOL [
    File: %vid-usage.r
    Date: 09-Jan-2004   
    Title: "VID Usage"
    Purpose: "VID Usage Tutorial with Runnable Examples"
    Version: 1.2.1
    Author: "Cybarite"
    Edits: RobertS
    Source: {
        Based on %easy-vid.r by Carl Sassenrath.

        Clips from various sites including email that are attributed in the 
        section
        }
    library: [
        level: 'intermediate
        platform: 'all
        type: [tutorial]
        domain: [gui]
        tested-under: [view 1.2.8.3.1 on W2K]
        support: none
        license: none
        see-also: none
    ]
]
 
flash "Fetching image..."
read-thru/to http://www.rebol.com/view/demos/palms.jpg%palms.jpg

read-thru/to http://www.rebol.com/graphics/reb-logo.gif%rebo-logo.gif
read-thru/to http://www.rebol.com/view/bay.jpg%bay.jpg
pic: %palms.jpg
unview

customer: make object! [  ; this sets a default customer object in 
case the user does not push the samples in order
        name: "Rosetta Stone"
        date-of-birth: 14-March-1959        
]

stylize/master [text-note: txt maroon bold]         ; this sets a 
default for users who run the samples out of order
; polished is an image that is embedded in this script file
; so that no outside files need to be loaded.
; This technique is used in many of the REBOL samples

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content: {VID Usage - REBOL Visual Interfaces


===Updates

--01-Apr-2008


* Fixed oddity with last item on stylesheets which was locking up 
some versions of VIEW

---09-Jan-2004

* Fixed slider initialize. 

* Focus section was not parsed out. --- fixed

* Fixed some text errors for the parsing of ===


---07-Jan-2004

* Revived vid-usage.r 

* added more examples from the script library

* manage source as vid-usage.leo an outliner file

---12-August-2001

Added supply examples. See:

!List/Supply

!List With Supplied Data

!Supply List With Scroll

---13-August-2001

!Add Subpanel example ported by Anton

===Caveats

---Work In Progress


This is a work in progress. Whether the progress will continue depends 
on the feedback.

---All Rights Reserved


The work is based on the documentation of REBOL View provided by 
REBOL Technology and its mailing list.

All rights to this documentation remain the property of REBOL Technology.

---Plagiarized Examples


Things are shamelessly plagiarized.  There are many experts on the 
mailing list whose work is included here; most notably the examples 
from the REBOL documentation.

---Approach


The approach that this document uses is to use REBOL/View/VID to 
demonstrate its abilities and give a visual tutorial. To enable this 
some changes have been made to the core %easyvid.r program from Carl 
Sassenrath. A scoll bar was added to the right pane because it was 
just too difficult to constrain the examples to the screen real estate 
that was available.

---Order Order


The order of the items needs some work. The easyvid presentation 
approach today does not allow for the drilling down and expansion 
of an outline tree which is needed for a large amount of documentation.


The preferred approach is to put a multi-level tree for navigation 
purposes and then allow navigation up and down the tree. 


===To Do

* make this a true outline tree

* re-organize it better


* update as requested and as possible by suggestions on AltME's REBOL 
world under group EasyVID

* correct numerous flaws


* better scrolling implementation using the updates that have been 
used in other examples such as Didier's %delete-email.r


* allow clipping to clipboard like AltME does on a row for the source 
examples




===Introduction to VID

With REBOL/View it's easy and quick to create your own user
interfaces. The purpose of this tutorial is to teach you the
basic concepts or REBOL/View interfaces in about 20 minutes.

VID is REBOL's Visual Interface Dialect.  A dialect is an
extension of the REBOL language that makes it easier to express
or describe information, actions, or interfaces.  VID is a
dialect that provides a powerful method of describing user
interfaces.

VID is simple to learn and provides a smooth learning curve from
basic user interfaces to sophisticated distributed computing
applications.


---Creating VID Interfaces

VID interfaces are written in plain text. You can use any text
editor to create and edit your VID script. Save your script
as a text file, and run it with REBOL/View.

!Note: Using a word processor like Word or Wordpad is not
recommended because files are not normally saved as text.
If you use a word processor, be sure to save the output
file as text, not as a document (.doc) file.


Recommendation: Look at TextPad from http://www.textpad.com




===Minimal VID Example

Here is a minimal VID example.  It creates a window that
displays a short text message.  Only one line of code
is required:

    view layout [text "Hello REBOL World!"]

You can type this line at the REBOL console prompt, or save
it in a text file and run it with REBOL.  If you save it
as a file, the script will also need a REBOL header. The
header tells REBOL that the file contains a script. Here
is an example of the script file with a header:

    REBOL [Title: "Example VID Script"]

    view layout [text "VID Example!"]

You can also add buttons and other gadgets to the script. The
example below displays a text, list of files, and a button:

    view layout [
        h2 "File List:"
        text-list data read %.
        button "Great!"
    ]

!Click on the examples above to see how they will appear on your
screen.  Click on their close box to remove them.  All of the
examples that follow can be viewed this way.


===Window Management


The code that displays the examples also shows how to manage the 
number of windows that are open.


Look at the show-example block in the code near the end of this script.


The location of the example window is also managed here by keeping 
track of the co-ordinates for the sample. After the sample window 
is moved, the next use will open at the same location.



===Pre-loaded Images


For this script, the image which represented a Portable Network Graphic
definition of an image is held in the script and loaded.


For a small number of graphics, this can achieve some packaging and
performance benefits.


The image "polished" is used through the script to achieve the polished 
steel
look that is one the outer frame.

    backtile polished orange
    button 200x50 "Polished Steel Look" polished 


===Two Basic Functions

Two functions are used to create graphical user interfaces
in REBOL: VIEW and LAYOUT.

The LAYOUT function creates a set of graphical objects.  These
objects are called faces.  You describe faces with words and

values that are put into a block and passed to the LAYOUT function.

The VIEW function displays faces that were previously created by
LAYOUT. The example below shows how the result of
the LAYOUT function is passed to the VIEW function, and the
interface is displayed.

    view layout [
        text "Layout passes its result to View for display."
        button "Ok"
    ]

Click on the above example to view it.

!Note: the block provided to a layout is not normal REBOL code,
it is a dialect of REBOL.  Using a dialect makes it much easier
to express user interfaces.



===Styles

Styles describe faces.  The examples above use the text and
button styles to specify a text line and a button. REBOL has
40 predefined face styles. You can also create your own custom
styles.  Here are a few example styles:

    view layout [
        h1 "Style Examples"
        box brick 240x2
        vtext bold "There are 40 styles built into REBOL."
        button "Great"
        toggle "Press" "Down"
        rotary "Click" "Several" "Times"
        choice "Choose" "Multiple" "Items"
        text-list 120x80 "this is" "a list" "of text"
        across
        check
        radio radio
        led
        arrow
        below
        field "Text Entry"
    ]


The words like backdrop, banner, box, text, and button are styles.

===Facets

Facets let you modify a style.  For instance, you can change the
color, size, text, font, image, edge, background, special
effects, and many other facets of a style.

Facets follow the style name.  Here is an example that shows
how you modify the text style to be bold and navy blue:

    view layout [txt bold navy "Facets are easy to use."]

The words bold and navy are not styles.  They are facets that
modify a style. Facets can appear in any order so you don't
have to remember which goes first.  For example, the line
above could be written as:

    view layout [txt "Facets are easy to use." navy bold]

Many facets that can be specified.  Here is an example that
creates bold red text centered in a black box.

    view layout [txt 300 bold red black center "Red Text"]

You can create facets that produce special effects, such
as a gradient colored backdrop behind the text:

    view layout [
        vtext bold "Wild Thing" effect [gradient 200.0.0 0.0.200]
    ]

===Custom Styles

Custom styles are shortcuts that save time.  When you define a
custom style, the facets you need go into the new style.  This
reduces what you need to specify each time you use the style,
and it allows you to modify the look of your interface by
changing the style definitions.

For example, here is a layout that defines a style for red
buttons.  The style word defines the new style, followed by
the old style name and its facets.

    view layout [
        style red-btn button red
        text "Testing red button style:"
        red-btn "Test"
        red-btn "Red"
    ]

So, if you wanted to create a text style for big, bold,
underlined, yellow, typewriter text:

    view layout [
        style yell tt 220 bold underline yellow font-size 16
        yell "Hello"
        yell "This is big old text."
        yell "Goodbye"
    ]


===Master Stylesheet 

REBOL holds its styles in a master stylesheet. When you are
sure that you want to share them without having to add the
style sheet line then do it as follows:

First add the style to the master sheet:

    button 200x50 "Define text-note as maroon bold text" [stylize/master 
    [
        text-note: txt maroon bold      
    ]]

    button 200x50 "Define text-note as white italic text" [stylize/master 
    [
        text-note: txt white italic     
    ]]

Then invoke it:

    view layout [
        across
        size 200x200

        return text-note "This shows a master stylesheet style in use." 

        return text-note "This shows another usage of the same style."

        return text-note "If you want to see the other style displayed, click 
        the Add Style section again and then use the other button"
    ]
    
    
===Note About Examples

!From this point forward, all examples will assume that
the view and layout functions are provided.  Only the layout
block contents will be shown.  To use these examples in your
scripts, you will need to put them in a layout block, as was
shown earlier.

For example, code that is written as:

    view layout [button red "Test it"]

will now appear as:

    button red "Test it"


===Face Sizes

The size of a face depends on its style.  Most styles, such as
buttons, toggles, boxes, checks, text-lists, and fields, have a
convenient default size.  Here are some examples.

    button "Button"
    toggle "Toggle"
    box blue
    field
    text-list

If no size is given, text will automatically compute its size,
and images will use whatever their source size is:

    text "Short text line"
    text "This is a much longer line of text than that above."
    image %palms.jpg

You can change the size of any face by providing a size facet.
The size can be an integer or a pair.  An integer specifies
the width of the face.  A pair specifies both width and height.
Images will be stretched to fit the size.

    button 200 "Big Button"
    button 200x100 "Huge Button"
    image %palms.jpg 50x50
    image %palms.jpg 150x50

===Color Facets

Most styles have a default color.  For example the body of
buttons will default to a teal color.  To modify the color of
a face, provide a color facet:

    button blue "Blue Button"
    h2 red "Red Heading"
    image %palms.jpg orange

Colors can also be specifed as tuples. Each tuple contains three
numbers: the red, green, and blue components of the color. Each
component can range from 0 to 255. For example:

    button 200.0.200 "Red + Blue = Magenta" 200
    image %palms.jpg 0.200.200 "Green + Blue"

Some face styles also allow more than one color.  The effect of
the color depends on the style.  For text styles the first color
will be used for the text and the second color for the background
of the text:

    txt "Yellow on red background" yellow red
    banner "White on Navy Blue" white navy

For other styles, the body of the face is the first color, and
the second color will be used as its alternate.

    button "Multicolor" olive red
    toggle "Multicolor" blue orange
===Layout Commands


To drop user interface elements on the canvas according to VIDs 
directional layout controls 

---Across

You are placing elements in a row orientation
    
    across 
    return button "A" button "B" button "C"
    return button "D" button "E" button "F"
    

---Below

You are placing elements in a column orientation

    below 
    return button "A" button "B" button "C"
    return button "D" button "E" button "F"

---Mix

You can mix the directional controls 

    across 
    return button "A" button "B" 
    below button "C" 
    across button "D" button "E" button "F"


---Padding


The pad keyword creates extra padding between styles. It uses a pair 
or integer value. When it is an integer, spacing is created either 
horizontally (across) or vertically (below). When it is a pair, the 
spacing will be created both horizontal and vertically. The following 
example illustrates both uses. First, the buttons "one" and "two" 
are padded with an integer representing 40 pixels in one direction. 
Then the buttons "three" and "four" are padded with a pair representing 
40x40 pixels. 

    across 
    button "one" pad 40 button "two" return 
    button "three" pad 40x40 button "four" 


Padding can be negative.
    
        backtile polished orange
        pad 200x200 button "A"
        pad -100x-100 button "B"
        
---Guide

A guide is a virtual alignment control

      title "Buttons Without A Guide" 
    button "one"   button "two"  return 
    button "three" button "four" return 
    button" five" button "six" 

With an implicit guide location

    title "Buttons With An Implicit Guide Location" 
    guide 
    button "one"   button "two"  return 
    button "three" button "four" return 
    button" five" button "six" 

With an explicit guide location

    across title "Buttons With An Explicit Guide Location"
    guide 55x100 
    button "one"   button "two"  return 
    button "three" button "four" return 
    button" five" button "six" 
    
===Tabstops

Tabs can be used for alignment.

---Across

    tabs 200 ; sets tabs every 200 pixels   
    across button 20 "A" tab button 20 "B" tab button 20 "C" 
    tabs 100 ; sets tabs every 100 pixels   
    return button 20 "D" tab button 20 "E" tab button 20 "F"
    
---Below

    tabs 200 ; sets tabs every 200 pixels   
    below button 20 "A" tab button 20 "B" tab button 20 "C" 
    tabs 100 ; sets tabs every 100 pixels   
    return button 20 "D" tab button 20 "E" tab button 20 "F"

---Explicit Settings

Tabstops can be set at explicit values 

    tabs [100 124  166 212 300]

    across tab button 20 "A" tab button 20 "B" tab button 20 "C" tab 
    button 20 "D"
    
===Color Facets

Most styles have a default color.  For example the body of
buttons will default to a teal color.  To modify the color of
a face, provide a color facet:

    button 200 blue "Blue Button"
    h2 red "Red Heading"
    image polished orange

Colors can also be specifed as tuples. Each tuple contains three
numbers: the red, green, and blue components of the color. Each
component can range from 0 to 255. For example:

    button 200.0.200 "Red + Blue = Magenta" 200
    image polished 0.200.200 "Green + Blue"


Some face styles also allow more than one color.  The effect of the 
color depends on the style.  For text styles the first color will 
be used for the text and the second color for the background of the 
text:

    txt "Yellow on red background" yellow red
    title "White on Navy Blue" white navy


For other styles, the body of the face is the first color, and the 
second color will be used as its alternate.

    button 200 "Multicolor" olive red
    toggle 200 "Multicolor" blue orange


From the mailing list, there was a problem reported in changing button 
color:

    view layout [
        b: button "New color" [
            b/color: random 255.255.255 
            show b
        ]
    ]
    

And the answer was that the gradient of the color was preventing 
this change from working:


    style color-changing-button button 0.0.0        ; new style overwrites 
    gradient effect
    b: color-changing-button "New color" [
        b/color: random 255.255.255 
        show b
    ]

===Text Facets


Most faces will accept text to be displayed.  Even graphical faces 
can display text.  For example, the box and image faces will display 
text if it is provided:

    box blue "Box Face"
    image polished "Image Face"


Most button faces will accept more than one text string. The strings 
will be shown as alternates as the face is selected.

    button 200 "Up" "Down"
    toggle 200 "Off" "On"
    rotary 200 "Red" "Green" "Blue" "Yellow"
    choice 200 "Monday" "Tuesday" "Wednesday" "Thursday" "Friday"

    text-list 200 "Monday" "Tuesday" "Wednesday" "Thursday" "Friday"


When other datatypes need to be displayed as text, use the form function 
to convert them first:

    button 250 form now
    field form first read %.
    
===Normal Text Style


Normal text is light on dark and can include a number of facets to 
set the font, style, color, shadow, spacing, tabbing, and other attributes.

    text "Normal"
    text "Bold" bold
    text "Italic" italic
    text "Underline" underline
    text "Bold italic underline" bold italic underline
    text "Big" font-size 32
    text "Serif style text" font-name font-serif
    text "Spaced text" font [space: 5x0]

Text also includes these predefined styles:

    title "Title" 200
    vh1 "vh1"
    vh2 "vh2"
    vh3 "vh3"
    vh4 "vh4"
    label "Label"
    
    
===Document Text Style


Document text is dark on light and can also include a number of facets 
to set the font, style, color, shadow, spacing, tabbing, and other 
attributes.

    txt "Normal"
    txt "Bold" bold
    txt "Italic" italic
    txt "Underline" underline
    txt "Bold italic underline" bold italic underline
    txt "Big" font-size 32
    txt "Serif style text" font-name font-serif
    txt "Spaced text" font [space: 5x0]

Document text also includes these predefined styles:

    title "Centered title" 200
    h1 "Heading 1"
    h2 "Heading 2"
    h3 "Heading 3"
    h4 "Heading 4"
    tt "Typewriter text"
===Text Entry Fields


Text input fields accept text until the enter or tab key is pressed. 
 A text input field can be created with:

    field

To make the field larger or smaller, provide a width:

    field 30
    field 300

Fields will scroll when necessary.


Larger amounts of text can be entered in an area.  Areas also accept 
an enter key and will break lines.

    area

You can also specify the area size:

    area 160x200


To force the text in an area to wrap rather than scroll horizontally, 
provide the wrap option:

    area wrap
===Text Setting


To set the value of a text field under program control, use /text: 
e.g.

    across backtile polished
    return t1: txt      200 "This is some original text"
    return f1: field    200 "Some field text"   
    return a1: area  {Some original area text.} wrap 200x80
    return button 200 "Change Text" [
        t1/text: "Some different text" 
        f1/text: "Some new field text"

        a1/text: {Some wrapping text in the^/ area field to^/ show that this^/ 
        is supported}
        show [t1 f1 a1]
    ]
    
===Text Lists

Text lists are easy to create.  Here is an example.

    text-list "Eureka" "Ukiah" "Mendocino"

You can also provide it as a block:

    text-list data ["Eureka" "Ukiah" "Mendocino"]


Almost any type of block can be provided. Here is a list of all the 
files in your current directory:

    text-list data read %.

Here is a list of all the words REBOL has scanned:

    text-list data first system/words
===Scrolling Text List


A style to allow maintenance of lists from Brett Handley on the REBOL 
list:

        style updatable-text-list text-list
        with [
            update-slider: does [
                sld/redrag lc / max 1 length? head lines
            ]
        ]

        tl: updatable-text-list 300x100 data copy system/locale/months
        button  300x20 "Delete first entry on the list" [
            remove tl/data tl/update-slider show tl
        ]
        button 300x20 "Append the 'now' timestamp to list" [
            append tl/data mold now tl/update-slider show tl
        ]
===Text List Picked Values

    list-of-letters: text-list "a" "b" "c" "d" "e" 
    button 200  "Pick Item 3" [
        clear list-of-letters/picked 

        append list-of-letters/picked pick list-of-letters/data 3 
        show list-of-letters
    ]
===Images

By default an image will be scaled to fit within a face.

    image 60x60 polished
    image polished red

Images can be framed in a number of ways:

    image 100x100 polished frame blue 5x5
    image 100x100 polished bevel
    image 100x100 polished ibevel 6x6

Most other faces can accept an image as well as text:

    box 100x100 polished
    button "Button" polished purple
    toggle "Toggle" polished blue red
    field bold  "This is a field." polished effect [emboss tile]

    field bold "This is another field." polished effect [brighten 100]

The image can be provided as a filename, URL, or image data.



===Backdrops

A backdrop can be a color, an effect, an image, or a combination
of the three.  For example a backdrop color would be written as:

    backdrop navy
    title "Color Backdrop" gold

To create a backdrop effect provide it on the line:

    backdrop effect [gradient 1x1 0.0.100 100.0.0]
    title "Gradient Backdrop" gold

A backdrop image can be a file, URL, or image data:

    backdrop polished
    title "Image Backdrop" red

The backdrop image can be colorized:

    size 400x500 
    backdrop polished blue
    title "Blue Image Backdrop"

The image can include an effect:

    backdrop polished effect [fit gradcol 1x1 100.0.0 0.0.250]
    title "Gradient Image Backdrop"
    
===Backtile

To make a backdrop use a tile effect there are two options:

    backdrop polished effect [tile]
    banner "This shows a backdrop with a tile effect"
    
or

    backtile polished
    banner "This demonstrates backtile"


Note the difference between:

    size 400x500 
    backdrop polished
    banner "Here one image is stretched to cover the canvas"

and

    size 400x500 
    backtile polished
    banner "Here one image is repeated to cover the canvas"
    
===Effect Facets


A range of effects are supported for faces.  All of these effects 
are performed directly on the face when it is rendered. Here are 
examples of a few possible effects in top to bottom then left to 
right order:

    style polished-steel image 80x60 polished 
    polished-steel effect [flip 1x1]
    polished-steel effect [rotate 90]
    polished-steel effect [reflect 1x1]
    polished-steel effect [crop 0x50 120x60 fit]
    polished-steel effect [grayscale]
    polished-steel effect [invert]
    polished-steel effect [difference 200.0.0]
    polished-steel effect [tint 80]
    return
    polished-steel effect [contrast 50]
    polished-steel effect [brighten 50]
    polished-steel effect [sharpen]
    polished-steel effect [blur]
    polished-steel effect [colorize 204.0.0]
    polished-steel effect [gradcol 1x1 150.0.0 0.0.150]
    polished-steel effect [gradmul 0x1 0.100.0]
    polished-steel effect [grayscale emboss]


Effects can be used in combination to create other interesting results. 
 However, keep in mind that the computations are performed in real 
time.  If complex combinations are required, a temporary image should 
be created with the to-image function.


===Actions


An action can be associated with almost any face. To do so, follow 
the face style with a block:

    button "Test" [alert "test"]


The block is used as the body of a function that is passed the face 
and the current value (if the face has one).  For example:

    toggle "Toggle" [alert form value] 
    rotary "A" "B" "C" [alert form value]
    text "Click Here" [alert  face/text]

If a second block is provide, it is used for the alternate
actions (right key):


    button "Click Here" [view/new layout [txt "action"]] [view/new layout 
    [txt "alt-action"]]


Use variables to modify the contents or state of other faces. For 
example, the slider will update the progress bar:

    slider 200x16 [p1/data: value show p1]
    p1: progress

!More action on actions needed...

===Show


After the state is changed for a user interface element, it must 
be re-drawn to be reflected on the user interface canvas.

Accomplish this with the show message.

    backtile polished
    across 
    toggle "Toggle State"  
            [   cybernetics?/data: not cybernetics?/data
                show cybernetics?]  

    return  label "Are you interested in cybernetics?" cybernetics?: 
    check 

One show command can be used for multiple user interface elements

        backtile polished orange
        across
        b1: check label "Red" return
        b2: check label "Green" return

        button 200 "Change State But No Refresh" [b1/data: not b1/data b2/data: 
        not b2/data] return
        button "Show" [show [b1 b2]]
===Hide

A user interface element can also be hidden.

        backtile polished orange
        across
        c1: check 
        hide-button: button "Hide" [hide c1] return
        show-button: button "Show" [show [c1 d2]]


The show-button action tries to show a user interface element 'd2' 
that does not exist.
REBOL/View ignores these.
===Invisible Faces


To make a button invisible when the view is opened, you can define 
an invisible button style

This approach sets the show? value to false when the user interface 
element is initialized.

    across

    style invisible-button button with [append init [show?: false]]
    late-shower: invisible-button "I'm Here" return
    return button 200 "Show Invisible Button" [show late-shower]
    
This works for the other visible user interface element.

===Focus

A user interface element can programmatically be given the focus.

    across backtile polished 
    button 200 "Set focus to Phone Field" [focus f2] 
    return label "Name: "   f1: field 100 
    return label "Phone: " f2: field 100 

    return button 200 "Remove focus from Phone Field" [unfocus f2] 
    return button 200 "Hide the Phone Field" [hide f2] return

---Focus Defect


!Note that the tab function shows a hidden field. I have assumed 
that this is a defect. If a field is hidden, the tab button should 
not make it visible. This has been previously sent to feedback.

===Radio Buttons


A radio button is used to make a choice between mutually exclusive 
values. Your preferred programming language is REBOL or C++ or PL/1 
or APL but it is only one of those.

            across backtile polished

            radio of 'programming-language pad 0x-4 label "REBOL" return

            radio of 'programming-language pad 0x-4 label "C++" return

            radio of 'programming-language pad 0x-4 label "PL/1" return

            radio of 'programming-language pad 0x-4 label "APL" return


To mix two groups of radio buttons on one screen, associate them 
with their groups using the "of 'word". In the above, the grouping 
is 'programming-language.

            across backtile polished

            radio of 'programming-language pad 0x-4 label "Language: REBOL" return

            radio of 'programming-language pad 0x-4 label "Language: C++" return

            radio of 'editor pad 0x-4 label "Editor: TextPad" return

            radio of 'editor pad 0x-4 label "Editor: Notepad" return


The padding in the above is needed to keep the label aligned with 
the radio button.

            across backtile polished orange

            radio of 'programming-language pad 0x-4 label "REBOL" return

            radio of 'programming-language          label "APL" return
            
            
            
            

===Radio Button Settings


A radio button is not very useful unless you can find out what its 
setting is and change that setting under program control.


            across backtile polished orange

            rebol-radio:    radio of 'programming-language  [programming-language: 
            'rebol] pad 0x-4 label "REBOL" return

            apl-radio:      radio of 'programming-language  [programming-language: 
            'apl]         label "APL" return
            button 200 "Toggle radio button" [

                    apl-radio/data: not rebol-radio/data: not rebol-radio/data
                    show [rebol-radio apl-radio]
            ]
            
===Check Box

---Purpose


A check box is used to allow user interface choices where the choices 
are not mutually exclusive.

        across backtile polished orange
        c1: check label "Likes animals" return
        c2: check label "Like Monkees" return
        c3: check label "Like The Animals"
        
---State


A check box is not much good if you can't get and set its state (on 
or off).

        across backtile polished orange
        c1: check label "Likes animals" return
        c2: check label "Like Monkees" return
        
    button "Set State" [
        c1/data: true 
        show c1
        c2/data: false
        show c2
    ]
 
 
===Sensor

---Purpose


A sensor is an invisible user interface element. Using a sensor only 
makes sense in a few instances. 


If you want a keycode action where there is no visible user interface 
element to link the action to then a sensor can be used.


This sensor code adds an Escape or Back or Enter action that will 
close the window. 

    sensor 1x1 keycode [#"^M" #" " #"^(back)" #"^(ESC)"] [unview]


Or if you want to make portions of an image 'hot' instead of putting 
buttons on top of the image, then a sensor will achieve this.

        across backtile polished orange

        txt "Click on the upper left section of the gray image to invoke 
        the sensor action"

        return animage: image 100x100 polished      ; here the image is just 
        the polished area

        at animage/offset sensor 50x50 [alert "You pushed over the sensor"]
        
===Displaying Script Values


If the script has a standard format headings, including custom ones, 
these can be used in the application by picking them from the system/script/header.

        backtile polished
        across banner "About"

        return text font-size 16    rejoin ["Title: "           form system/script/header/title]

        return text font-size 16  rejoin ["Originator: "    form system/script/header/author] 
              

        return text font-size 16  rejoin ["Modifier: "      form system/script/header/modifier]

        return text font-size 16  rejoin ["Version: "       form system/script/header/version]

        return text font-size 16  rejoin ["Updated: "       form system/script/header/date]
        return button "OK" [unview] 

===Toggle


A toggle button represents boolean state - either on or off. The 
button stays down until toggled again.
Colors and text can be paired for "on" and "off" state.

    toggle "Up" "Down" red blue

To set the state via program control, use:

        across backtile polished
        return t1: toggle "Up" "Down" red blue
        return button polished 204.0.0 100 "Toggle State" [
            t1/state: not t1/state
            show t1
        ]


===Rotary Buttons


Rotary buttons are a different sort of user interface device. They 
can cause some challenges because the state is what's showing so 
you have to blindly "toggle" to get to a state that you want.  But 
for quick and easy uses where the user is familiar with the options, 
they can be handy.  If you plan to use them for a long list of items 
such as shown  below, they might give you some usability concerns.


---Example

        across backtile polished
        rotary data ["First" "Second" "Third"]

---Setting State

        across backtile polished

        return r1: rotary data (my-options: ["First" "Second" "Third"])
        return button 200 "Change Rotary State" [
            r1/data: next r1/data
            if tail? r1/data [r1/data: head r1/data]
            show r1
        ]

---Example - Usability For Unfamiliar List Contents


The rotary button demonstrated here contains some information unfamiliar 
to most (Saturn's satellites). Use it to to set the state so that 
"Calypso" is set. Doable but without knowing the order each re-paint 
has to be checked to ensure that it is not "Calypso" before clicking 
again.  If you do click past the choice that you want, there is no 
back function so you have to cycle through again.

        return rotary data [

            "Pan" "Atlas" "Prometheus" "Pandora" "Epimetheus" "Janus" "Mimas" 
            "Enceladus" "Tethys" "Telesto" "Calypso" "Dione" "Helene" "Rhea" 
            "Titan" "Hyperion" "Iapetus" "Phoebe"        
        ]


===Arrows


REBOL/View supports arrows as simple user interface elements. Actions 
can be associated with them.



---Arrowheads And Actions

By default, the arrow is 20x20

    across size 200x100 
    backtile polished
    at 50x50 arrow left 
        [alert "You pressed the left arrow"] 

        [alert "You pushed the alternate button on the left arrow"] 
    at 70x30 arrow up
    at 90x50 arrow right [alert "You pressed the right arrow"]
    at 70x70 arrow down
    
---Very Sharp Arrows


And with a little work the arrows and boxes can be merged to look 
sharper. Here is a "sharp at both ends" arrow from the block diagram 
script by Carl:

    origin 0
    backcolor white
    at 0x0 box 40x40 white effect [arrow rotate 270]
    at 110x0 box 40x40 white effect [arrow rotate 90]
    at 24x10 box black 100x20
    
---Arrow Blend

So that shows you how to make an arrow blend into your background

    size 100x100
    across backdrop gray
    at 50x50 box 40x40 gray effect [arrow rotate 90]
    at 40x67 box 25x5 black
    
===LED

LEDs would be used to display state (on or off).  

Clicking the LED toggles its state and changes its color.

LEDs do not support alternate mouse button actions.

    across banner "Light Emitting Diode"
    return 

    l1: led 10x10 [alert "LED left mouse action"] label "Alert status"

    l2: led 10x10 [alert "LED left mouse action"] label "Network status"
    return button "Change state" [
        l1/data: not l1/data
        l2/data: not l2/data 
        show [l1 l2]        
    ]
    
===Box


---Boxing

Draw boxes of any heigth and width with the box style

    box "Large Box" 200x400 polished orange
    
---Boxes As Lines


If you make the box narrow enough or short enough it is a line (or 
a dot).

    across size 300x300 backtile polished
    at 50x0 box 3x100 gold
    at 0x50 b1: box 100x3 gold
    at 10x10 box 5x5 red
    
---Boxes Can Grow

    across size 300x300 backtile polished
    at 150x0 b1: box 100x3 gold
    return pad 0x100 button "Grow Down" [
        for i 3 300 1 [
            b1/size/y: 1 + b1/size/y
            wait 00:00:00.01
            show b1
        ]
    ]

    return pad 0x100 button "Back Up" [
        for i 300 3 -1 [
            b1/size/y: b1/size/y - 1
            wait 00:00:00.01
            show b1
        ]
    ]

You might even find a use for it.


---Grid Effect

Not sure of the use for this yet but here is what you can do:


 return box "Grid Lock" with [effect: [grid 20x20 8x8 4x3]] white 
 300x200
 

 return box "Grid Lock" with [effect: [grid 20x20 5x5 3x3]] white 
 - 80 300x200
 
===Frame

Earlier versions of REBOL VID supported frames in layouts such as
view layout [frame "This is the Bay" %bay.jpg]

These are no longer valid.

But frames can be put around some user interface devices:

    image 100x100 polished frame red
    
===List


A list is an iterated sub layout and takes a layout block that uses 
the Visual Interface Dialect. The styles in the layout will be repeated 
until there is no more room to fit them within the list dimensions.


---Why


A face can be iterated to create a number of virtual faces. For instance, 
when displaying a list of ten buttons, each of the buttons does not 
need to be created as a separate object. If the buttons only differ 
by a few facets (such as position, text, and action taken on selection), 
a model face can be created and iterated for its other position. 
This is useful when creating scrolling lists of files and other data 
sets that share the same appearance. 

---Supply


Supply provides the data to the list for an iterated face.

    do [cnt: 0
        list-collection: [aqua sky water]    
    ]
    backtile polished orange
    across
    list-displayed: list 100x72 [
        origin 0 space 0x0 across
        color-field: txt bold 80x24
    ] supply [
            if none? one-color: pick list-collection count [exit]
            face/text: do pick [one-color] index

    ]

    return txt gold 180 "OK ... but not too useful"


---Supply Columns

Maybe adding some more columns would be better.

Here I'll add a column of buttons that display the color name
and a column of text strings in italic.

    do [
        cnt: 0
        list-collection: [aqua sky water gold silver coffee]    
    ]
    backtile polished orange
        across
        list-displayed: list 300x200 [
            origin 0 space 0x0 across
            color-field: txt bold 80x24
            color-button: button 80x24
            pad 5x1
            txt 100 italic
        ] supply [

                if none? one-color: pick list-collection count [exit]
                face/text: do pick [
                    [one-color]
                    [to-string one-color]
                    [rejoin ["  " to-string one-color]]
                    ] index 
    ]
    

    return txt gold 300 {A bit more interesting but the last row repeats 
    to fill the list size. Some of the other VID components will automatically 
    stretch to fit the size needed (such as this txt field) but the list 
    does not behave that way.  You have to make the list size fit its 
    data or make it smaller and add a vertical scroll capability. That 
    is shown a little later on.}

===List With Supplied Data

This example is to show adding action to the list
and adds a horizontal line between the rows.


    do [
        cnt: 0
        list-collection: [aqua sky water gold silver coffee]    
    ]
    backtile polished orange
        across

        list-displayed: list water edge [size: 6x6 color: silver]  350x96 
        [  
            origin 0 space 0x0 across

            color-field: txt 60 [alert rejoin ["You pressed the " face/text " 
            text field"]]
            pad 45x0            

            color-button: button 80 [alert rejoin ["You pressed the " face/text 
            " button"]]
            pad 5x0
            txt 120 italic

            return box 350x1 white      ; this causes a horizontal line to appear 
            between each row

        ] supply [

                if none? one-color: pick list-collection count [exit]
                face/text: do pick [
                    [one-color]
                    [to-string one-color]
                    [rejoin ["  " to-string one-color]]
                    ] index 
    ]


===Supply List With Scroll

This example shows a supplied list with a scroll capability.
More colors are added to demonstrate scrolling.

Note that this is a verbose list of code where I added comments
for my understanding of how the scroll was linked to the list.
The same effect can be accomplished with fewer lines of code.
    

    do [    ; first this do block creates the data definitions needed.
        slider-position-clicked:  0
        count: 0    
        x: 450
        y: 300

        row-y: 16           ; the row height includes the data plus any separator 
        lines 

        list-size: to-pair reduce [x y]     ; this is the size of the display 
        list  
        separator-size: to-pair reduce [x 1]
        slider-size: to-pair reduce [24 y ]
        list-collection: [

            aqua           bar-color   base-color     beige         black    
                  blue           brick          brown      

        button-color   coal        coffee         crimson       cyan     
              forest         gold           gray       

        green          ivory       khaki          leaf          linen    
              magenta        main-color     maroon     

        mint           navy        oldrab         olive         orange   
              over-color     papaya         pewter         

            pink           purple      rebolor        red           sienna   
                  silver         sky            snow

        tan            teal        violet         water         wheat    
              white          yellow        
        ]    
        
        supply-style: stylize [

                button-fixed: button left coal to-pair reduce [80 row-y]        ; 
                these keep the row elements the same height

                text-fixed: txt to-pair reduce [160 row-y]          
        ]
        
        data-size: length? list-collection  
    ]
    

    backtile polished orange                        ; this section layouts 
    out the list
        
        across

        list-position: at                                   ; the position 
        is captured here in order to later put the slider beside it
        list-displayed: list linen 
            edge [size: 6x6 color: tan]  list-size [  
            origin 0 space 0x0 across
            styles supply-style

            text-fixed [alert rejoin ["You pressed the " face/text " text field"]]

            button-fixed [alert rejoin ["You pressed the " face/text " button"]]
            pad 5x0 

            text-fixed 80 italic [alert rejoin ["You pressed the italic " face/text 
            " text field"]]

            return box separator-size gray      ; this causes a horizontal line 
            to appear between each row

        ] supply [
                count: count + slider-position-clicked  

                if none? one-color: pick list-collection count [exit]
        face/text: 
            either count > (1 + data-size) 
            [""]
            [
                             do pick [

                                    [one-color]                                                      
                                           ; this is supplied to the first txt field (text-fixed)

                                    [to-string one-color]                                           ; 
                                    this is supplied to the button (button-fixed)

                                    [rejoin ["  " to-string one-color " "]]     ; this value is supplied 
                                    to the last text-fixed field
                            ] index 
                    ]
        ]


        ; now add a slider to the side of the list



        at list-position + (list-size * 1x0)                             
           ; this finds the top right border of the list widget
        vertical-slider: slider slider-size to-integer y / row-y
        [

                    slider-position-clicked: vertical-slider/data   ; the slider has 
                    to be bound to the size of the list                

                        * ((1 + data-size) - ((y / (1 + row-y))))       ; including the row 
                        height
                    if slider-position-clicked <> count [
                        count: slider-position-clicked 
                        show list-displayed
                    ]
                ]


===Slider


A slider is interactive user interface element. The data of a slider 
varies from 0 to 1.

    backtile polished   orange across
    slider-1: slider 200x40 
    return button 200 "Move first slider to 50%" [
        slider-1/data: .5 
        show slider-1
    ]

    return txt 200 "The second slider in this example is initialized 
    to the 80% mark."  
    return slider 200x40 with [append init [data: .8]]
    
===Progress Indicator


The progress-1 face in this example is a progress indicator. Because 
it is only displaying information, it is non-interactive i.e. you 
can not change its value by dragging its edges.  The alternate button 
is not supported on a progress indicator.

    backtile polished   orange across
    slider 200x40 [
        progress-1/data: value 
        field-1/text: join (to-integer (100 * value)) " %"
        show [progress-1 field-1]
    ] 
    return progress-1: progress
    return field-1: field
===Panels 


Panels are used to create sub-panes that can be more easily managed 
by grouping

the user interface devices on a panel. The first example below shows 
how to use panels for layout alignment. By creating a panel definition, 
all of the components defined within it are aligned relative to its 
origin.

    across backtile polished brick
    tabs 50
    return panel-1: panel 250x120 [
        backtile polished
        across
        return button water 200 "Button A"
        return button aqua  200 "Button B"
        return button sky   200 "Button C" 
    ]


    at panel-1/offset + panel-1/size panel 60x90 [  ; start at the bottom 
    right corner of panel-1
        backtile polished
        across
        return button tan       20 "1"
        return button coffee    20 "2"
    ]
    
---Multiple SubPanels example


This example from the REBOL html documentation shows how to easily 
hide and show sections of a user interface by displaying them on 
the face area of a box.  


        do [                                ; define two panels
            panel1: layout [
                    origin 8x8
                    h2 "Panel 1"
                    field "Field 1"
                    field "Field 2"
                    button "The Answer" [alert "I know nothing."]
            ]


            panel2: layout [
                origin 8x8
                    h2 "Panel 2"
                    across
                    txt "X:"
                    slider 150x16
                    return
                    txt "Y:"
                    slider 150x16
                    return
                    check [panel2/color: maroon  show panel2]
                    txt "Don't click this"
                    return 
                    check [panel2/color: silver  show panel2]
                    txt "Click this" 
                    return
                ]

                panel1/offset: 0x0
                panel2/offset: 0x0
        ]


        vh2 "Subpanel Examples"     ; now demonstrate panel use
        guide
        pad 20
        button "Panel 1" [panels/pane: panel1  show panels]
        button "Panel 2" [panels/pane: panel2  show panels]
        button "Quit" [unview]
        return
        box 2x140 maroon
        return
        panels: box 220x140
        do [panels/pane: panel1]
        
===Simple Default Style Override


The style's default look can be overriden easily with one line of 
code. 


For example, to make the default button size 200x200 with a water 
color, use

    style button button 200x200 water
    button "Big Blue Button" [unview]

To make the toggle some different default colors:

    style toggle toggle crimson sky
    toggle "Up" "Down"


Note that these stay in effect until they are overridden so if you 
use the default values, exercise some care unless you meant to do 
that. 



===Image Maker


An option used by Carl in some of his programs is to let View create 
specific icons so that you have portability and more control of look 
of the image then if you referenced an external file such as gif 
that was a bullet display. Here's how to do that:

    do [    
        make-image: func [xy wh eff] [
            eff: layout [
                size 20x20 at xy
                box wh effect eff
            ]
        eff/color: rebolor
        to-image eff
        ]


        dot: make-image 6x5 9x9 [gradient 1x1 255.0.0 0.0.0 oval key 0.0.0]

        dot-big: make-image 8x7 12x12 [gradient 1x1 255.0.0 0.0.0 oval key 
        0.0.0]
        arr: make-image 3x3 14x14 [arrow 0.0.127 rotate 90]
        ard: make-image 3x3 14x14 [arrow 0.0.127 rotate 180]    

    ]   ; end of "do" - it is needed here because easyvid approach is 
    expecting vid dialect commands

    banner "Presentation Points"
    size 400x300 across

    style label label gold     ; make a label's text be a different color 
    than the default
    return image dot label "This is bullet point number 1" 
    return image dot label "This is bullet point number 2"
    return image arr label "This is arrow point number 1"

    return image ard label "This is an arrow making a different point"

    return image dot-big pad 0x4 area 300x80 wrap "And because these 
    arrows and dots are images, action can be added to them to make them 
    'hot' with mouse actions including 'over'."
    
===Needs Some Work

!More to come.  These still need to be covered in this
tutorial:

    text-list data [
        icon
    ]
    
===Digital Clock

    origin 0
    banner "00:00:00" rate 1 effect [gradient 0x1 0.0.150 0.0.50]

        feel [engage: func [face act evt] [face/text: now/time  show face]]


 


===REBOL Logo

 image %rebo-logo.gif [unview]

===Paint Drops

REBOL one liner by Vincent Ecuyer


 b: box rate 9 effect[draw[pen(random snow)circle(random 99x99)2]blur]box 
 1x1 rate 9 effect[draw[(b/image: to-image b)]]
 
===eMailer

One line emailer by Doc Kimbel

Assumes you have set up your email in set-user



 e: field "Email" s: field "Subject" m: area "Body" btn "Send"[send/subject 
 to-email e/text m/text s/text alert "ok"]
 
===Hello World

 text "Hello World!" button "Close" [unview]
===Three Buttons

 button "Yes" button "Maybe" button "No"

===View Web Text

 text 800x600 read http://www.rebol.com
 
===View Image

 image %palms.jpg
 
===View Image and File Name


Here a do block is used to initialize the file variable within the 
layout code.

 do [file: %palms.jpg]
 image file  text form file
 
 
===View Image behind File Name


Here a do block is used to initialize the file variable within the 
layout code.

 do [file: %palms.jpg]

 image file form file
 
 
===Buttons From Images

    backdrop 40.70.140
    stat: text bold "Click a Button" 100x20 240.140.40 center
    button "Bay Test"  %bay.jpg 100x100 [
        stat/text: "Upper" 
        show stat
    ]
    button "Blue Test" %bay.jpg 100x100 10.30.180 [
        stat/text: "Lower" 
        show stat
    ]
===View List


 list blue 320x200 [across text white 200 text white 100] data [
    ["John" 100] 
    ["Joe" 200] 
    ["Martin" 300]
 ]
===Movie Credits



    backdrop %bay.jpg effect [fit]

    text center bold 240x30 "REBOL, The Movie" yellow font [size: 16]
    credits: text {

 Edit This File 

 To Add Your Own Credits 
 

 It is very simple to do. 

 Only takes a minute. 

 Only REBOL Makes It Possible...

 } white bold center 240x180 rate 30 para [origin: 0x+100]
        feel [engage: func [f a e] [

            if a = 'time [f/para/origin: f/para/origin - 0x1 show f]
        ]
    ]



===Fire Demo

    box 150x150 with [
        edge: none
        img: image: make image! 150x150
        rate: 20
        text: "FIREBOLEK"
        font: make font [size: 24 color: 255.125.0]

        basic: [draw [image make pair! reduce [(random 3)  - 2 -1] img]]
        effects: reduce [
            append copy basic [blur luma -10]
            append copy basic [sharpen luma -10 blur]
            append copy basic [contrast 10 blur luma -5]        
        ]
        effect: first effects
        feel: make feel [
            engage: func [f a e][
                switch a [

                    down [f/effects: next f/effects if tail? f/effects [f/effects: head 
                    f/effects] f/effect: first f/effects show f]

                    time [show f repeat i f/size/x - 4 [poke f/image (f/size/x * f/size/y) 
                    - i - 2 (random 255.0.0 + random 0.127.0) * 3] f/img: to-image f] 
                           
                ]       
            ]
        ]
    ]
    text 150 {classical fire demo for REBOL^/
 press on fire to see other effects.^/   
 Written by ReBolek, 2001 in 15 mins.^/
 We need new category on Assembly:^/
 less-than-kb-demo ;-)} with [font: make font  [size: 9]]
===Bezier 

Oldes Bezier Line Demo

See script library for %bezier-curve.r

Uses functions and data initialized at script startup

The end points are draggable to change the curve!!!!


Here a do block is used to allow executable lines for initialization 
purposes.

 do [

    draw-beziere-curve: has [result pp x0 x1 x2 x3 y0 y1 y2 y3 cx bx 
    ax cy by ay t tx ty s] [
    result: make block! 120
    pp: p0/size/x / 2
    x0: p0/offset/x + pp
    y0: p0/offset/y + pp
    x1: p1/offset/x + pp
    y1: p1/offset/y + pp
    x2: p2/offset/x + pp
    y2: p2/offset/y + pp 
    x3: p3/offset/x + pp
    y3: p3/offset/y + pp

    insert result compose [
        pen 155.0.0
        line (p0/offset + pp) (p1/offset + pp)
        line (p2/offset + pp) (p3/offset + pp)
        pen 255.255.255 line (p0/offset + pp)
    ]    
    cx: 3 * (x1 - x0)
    bx: 3 * (x2 - x1) - cx
    ax: x3 - x0 - cx - bx
    cy: 3 * (y1 - y0)
    by: 3 * (y2 - y1) - cy
    ay: y3 - y0 - cy - by
    
    t: s: 0.01 ;this value sets quality of the curve
    
    while [t <= 1][
        tx: to integer! (

                (ax * (t * t * t)) + (bx * (t * t)) + (cx * t) + .5
            ) + x0
        ty: to integer! (

                (ay * (t * t * t)) + (by * (t * t)) + (cy * t) + .5
            ) + y0

        t: t + s
        insert tail result to pair! reduce [tx ty]
    ]
    return result
 ]


 click?: false
 mouse-pos: 0x0


 ]

    origin 0

    bkg: box black 400x400 with [effect: reduce ['draw make block! 120]]
    style point box 10x10 with [

        effect: [draw [pen 0.255.0 fill-pen 0.200.0 circle 4x4 4]]
        changes: [offset]
        feel: make feel [
            engage: func [f a e][
                if a = 'down [click?: on mouse-pos: e/offset]
                if a = 'up   [click?: off]
                if find [over away] a [
                    if click? [
                        f/offset: f/offset + e/offset - mouse-pos
                        bkg/effect/2: draw-beziere-curve
                        show [bkg f]
                    ]
                ]
            ]
        ]
    ]
    at 300x200 p0: point
    at 200x100 p1: point
    at 200x300 p2: point
    at 100x200 p3: point
    do [bkg/effect/2: draw-beziere-curve]
                   
===Buttons Galore

Buttons galore from the library script %buttons.r


Here a do block is used to execute the initialization needed within 
the layout block.



    do [
        group: ["rotary" "test" "button"]
    ]

    origin 20x10
    backdrop effect [gradient 0x1 100.20.0]

    vh1 "52 Button Click-up - Each with a different click effect..."

    vtext bold "Here is a small sampling of the thousands of button effects 
    you can create. (This is 78 lines of code.)"
    at 20x80 guide
    button "simple"
    button form now/date
    button "colored" 100.0.0
    button "text colored" font [colors: [255.80.80 80.200.80]]
    button with [texts: ["up text" "down text"]]
    button "bi-colored" colors [0.150.100 150.20.20]

    button with [texts: ["up color" "down color"] colors: [0.150.100 
    150.20.20]]
    button "image" pic
    button "color image" pic 200.100.50

    button "flip color" pic with [effects: [[fit colorize 50.50.200][fit 
    colorize 200.50.50]]]
    button "blink" with [rate: 2 colors: [160.40.40 40.160.40]]
    return

    button "multiply" pic with [effects: [[fit][fit multiply 128.80.60]]]
    button "brighten" pic with [effects: [[fit][fit luma 80]]]

    button "contrast" pic with [effects: [[fit][fit contrast 80]]]
    button "horiz flip" pic with [effects: [[fit][fit flip 1x0]]]

    button "vert reflect" pic with [effects: [[fit][fit reflect 0x1]]]
    button "invert" pic with [effects: [[fit][fit invert]]]

    button "vert grad" with [effects: [[gradient 0x1 0.0.0 0.200.0] [gradient 
    0x1 0.200.0 0.0.0]]]

    button "horiz grad" with [effects: [[gradient 1x0 200.0.0 200.200.200][gradient 
    1x0 200.200.200 200.0.0]]]

    button "both grad" with [effects: [[gradient 1x0 140.0.0 40.40.200] 
    [gradient 0x1 40.40.200 140.0.0]]]

    button "blink grad" with [rate: 4 effects: [[gradient 1x0 0.0.0 0.0.200] 
    [gradient 1x0 0.0.200 0.0.0]]]

    button "blink flip" pic with [rate: 8 effects: [[fit][fit flip 0x1]]]
    return
    button "big dull button with several lines" 100x80 0.0.100

    button "dual color" pic 50.50.100 100.50.50 100x80 with [edge: [color: 
    80.80.80]]

    button "big edge" pic 100x80 with [edge: [size: 5x5 color: 80.80.80] 
    effects: [[fit colorize 50.100.50][fit]]]

    button "oval reflect" pic 50.100.50 100x80 with [effect: [fit reflect 
    1x0 oval]]
    return

    button "text on top" pic 100x80 with [font: [valign: 'top] effects: 
    [[fit gradcol 1x1 200.0.0 0.0.200] [fit gradcol -1x-1 200.0.0 0.0.200]]]

    button "text on bottom" pic 100x80 50.50.100 with [font: [valign: 
    'bottom] effects: [[fit][fit invert]]]

    button "big text font" pic 100x80 with [font: [size: 24] effects: 
    [[fit multiply 50.100.200][fit]]]

    button "cross flip" pic 50.100.50 100x80 with [effect: [fit flip 
    0x1 reflect 0x1 cross]]
    return
    toggle "toggle"
    toggle "toggle red" 100.0.0 
    toggle "toggle up" "toggle down"
    toggle "toggle colored" 0.150.100 150.20.20
    toggle "up color" "down color" 0.150.100 150.20.20

    toggle "toggle multiply" pic with [effects: [[fit][fit multiply 128.80.60]]]

    toggle "toggle contrast" pic with [effects: [[fit][fit contrast 80]]]
    toggle "toggle cross" pic with [effects: [[fit][fit cross]]]

    toggle "toggle v-grad" with [effects: [[gradient 0x1 0.0.0 0.200.0] 
    [gradient 0x1 0.200.0 0.0.0]]]

    toggle "toggle h-grad" with [effects: [[gradient 1x0 200.0.0 200.200.200][gradient 
    1x0 200.200.200 200.0.0]]]

    toggle "toggle both" with [effects: [[gradient 1x0 140.0.0 40.40.200] 
    [gradient 0x1 40.40.200 140.0.0]]]
    return
    rotary data group
    rotary data reduce [now/date now/time]
    rotary data group 100.0.0 0.100.0 0.0.100

    rotary data group with [font: [colors: [255.80.80 80.200.80]]]
    rotary data group with [colors: [0.150.100 150.20.20]]
    rotary data group pic
    rotary data group pic 200.100.50

    rotary data group pic with [effects: [[fit colorize 50.50.200][fit 
    colorize 200.50.50]]]

    rotary data group with [effects: [[gradient 0x1 0.0.0 0.200.0] [gradient 
    0x1 0.200.0 0.0.0]]]

    rotary data group with [effects: [[gradient 1x0 200.0.0 200.200.200][gradient 
    1x0 200.200.200 200.0.0]]]

    rotary data group with [effects: [[gradient 1x0 140.0.0 40.40.200] 
    [gradient 0x1 40.40.200 140.0.0]]]
===Paint Program


This section is a clip of the layout portion of Frank Sievertsen's 
remarkable paint program. Open this example to enable a quick link 
to the real source:


 button "Browse Source" [browse http://www.reboltech.com/library/html/paint.html]
 button "Close" [unview]


In the example below, a DO block is used to execute initialize code.

 do [

    color: fill-color: start: draw-image: draw-pos: tmp: none
    type: 'box
    undos: [] redos: []
    draw: func [offset /local tmp] [
        compose [
            pen (color/color) fill-pen (fill-color/color)
            (type) (start) (either type = 'circle [
                tmp: offset - start
                to-integer square-root add tmp/x ** 2 tmp/y ** 2
            ] [offset])
        ]
    ]
 ]
 
        backdrop effect compose [gradient 1x1 (sky) (water)]
        across
        draw-image: image white 300x300 effect [draw []]
        feel [engage: func [face action event] [
            if all [type start] [
                if find [over away] action [
                    append clear draw-pos draw event/offset
                    show face
                ]
                if action = 'up [
                    append/only undos draw-pos
                    draw-pos: tail draw-pos
                    start: none
                ]
            ]
            if all [type action = 'down] [
                start: event/offset
            ]
        ]]
        do [draw-pos: draw-image/effect/draw]
        guide
        style text text [
            tmp: first back find face/parent-face/pane face
            tmp/feel/engage tmp 'down none
            tmp/feel/engage tmp 'up none
        ]
        label "Tool:" return
        radio [type: 'line] text "Line"
        return
        radio [type: 'box] on text "Box"
        return
        radio [type: 'circle] text "Circle"
        return
        style color-box box 15x15 [

            face/color: either face/color [request-color/color face/color] [request-color]
        ] ibevel
        color: color-box 0.0.0 text "Pen"
        return
        fill-color: color-box text "Fill-pen"
        return
        button "Undo" [if not empty? undos [
            append/only redos copy last undos
            draw-pos: clear last undos
            remove back tail undos
            show draw-image
        ]]
        return
        button "Redo" [if not empty? redos [
            append/only undos draw-pos
            draw-pos: insert draw-pos last redos
            remove back tail redos
            show draw-image
        ]]
===Font Lab

Carl's Font lab



Here a do block is used to initialize some values needed in the layout

 do [

    change-styles: func [style start facet subfacet value /local v][
    start: find style/pane start
    foreach f start [
        f: in f facet
        if subfacet <> 'none [f: in get f subfacet]
        either block? value [

            if not block? get f [set f either none? get f [copy []][reduce [get 
            f]]]

            either v: find get f value [remove v][head insert get f value]
        ][set f value]
    ]
    show style
 ]

 chg: func ['facet 'subfacet value] [
    change-styles external-view norm-start facet subfacet value
 ]
 shad: does [chg font shadow sdir * to-integer sl2/data * 16]
 sdir: 1x1
 sz: 180x40
 sx2: sz/x / 2 
 ]



    style tgl toggle 60
    style lab vtext bold
    backcolor rebolor
    space 0x5
    across 

    p: choice 180 "Sans-Serif Style" "Serif Style" "Fixed Width Style" 

        [chg font name pick reduce [font-sans-serif font-serif font-fixed] 
        index? p/data]
        return
    tgl "Bold" [chg font style [bold]]
    tgl "Italic" italic [chg font style [italic]]
    tgl "Lined" underline [chg font style [underline]]
    return
    tgl "Left" of 'tg1 [chg font align 'left]
    tgl "Center" of 'tg1 [chg font align 'center]
    tgl "Right" of 'tg1 [chg font align 'right]
    return
    tgl "Top" of 'tg2 [chg font valign 'top]
    tgl "Middle" of 'tg2 [chg font valign 'middle]
    tgl "Bottom" of 'tg2 [chg font valign 'bottom]
    return
    lab "Size:" 60x20 font []

    sl: slider 120x20 [chg font size max 8 to-integer sl/data * 40] 
     with [append init [data: .5]]
    
    return
    lab "Space:" 60x20 font []

    sl1: slider 120x20 [chg font space (1x0 * to-integer sl1/data * 20) 
    - 5x0]
    return
    lab "Shadow:" 60x20 font []
    sl2: slider 120x20 [shad]  with [append init [data: .5]]
    return
    lab "Shad Dir:" 60x20
    arrow left  [sdir: sdir * 0x1 + -1x0 shad] pad 6
    arrow right [sdir: sdir * 0x1 + 1x0 shad]  pad 6
    arrow up    [sdir: sdir * 1x0 + 0x-1 shad] pad 6
    arrow down  [sdir: sdir * 1x0 + 0x1 shad]  pad 6
    return
    button sx2 "Text Color" [chg font color request-color]
    button sx2 "Area Color" [chg color none request-color]
    return

    button sx2 "Help" [alert "Click the controls on the left to change 
    text on the right."]
    button sx2 "Close" #"^Q" [unview]
    below
    at p/offset + (p/size * 1x0) + 10x0
    norm-start:
    Title "Title" sz
    h1 "Heading 1" sz
    h2 "Heading 2" sz
    h3 "Heading 3" sz
    h4 "Heading 4" sz
    h5 "Heading 5" sz
    at norm-start/offset + (norm-start/size * 1x0) + 10x0
    banner "Banner" sz
    vh1 "Video Heading 1" sz
    vh2 "Video Heading 2" sz
    vh3 "Video Heading 3" sz
    vtext "Video Text" sz
    text "Document Text" sz
    

===Windows Clipboard


---Cut or Copy to Clipboard


Normal Windows cut and copy commands are supported e.g. on a field, 
contents can be copied to the clipboard. Programmatic access is also 
supported for text contents.

    across 
    label "Entry field: "
    return input-field: field 200 "Enter your text here"

    return button 200 "Copy Entry field data to clipboard" [write clipboard:// 
    input-field/text]

    return button 200 "Show Clipboard Contents" [alert read clipboard://] 


---Clearing The Clipboard


    across 
    button 200 "Clear The Clipboard" [write clipboard:// ""]

    return button 200 "Show Clipboard Contents" [alert read clipboard://] 



---Paste from Clipboard


Normal Windows paste commands are supported e.g. on a field, contents 
can be pasted. Programmatic access is also supported for text contents.

    across 

    button 200 "Show Clipboard Contents" [alert read clipboard://] 
===Requesters


REBOL View supports an assortment of requesters. 


The results of the request-* code are returned as its value e.g. 
chosen-date: request-date


---Request Yes | No | Cancel


Provides the user the capability to pick from choices "Yes" | "No" 
| "Cancel"

The result is "True" | "False" | none

    do [user-response: none]

    button "Simple Request" 200 [user-response: request "Do you want 
    to abandon your input so far?"]
    button "View User Response" 200 [alert form user-response]
    

---Pick A Color

    do [chosen-color: gold] 
    button "Pick Color" 200 [chosen-color: request-color]
    button "View Chosen Color" 200 [alert form chosen-color]



---Pick An Answer

The request allows a descriptive value then 1, 2, or 3 options.


    button "Format" 100 [request ["Your message goes here. It will wrap 
    if it is very very long." "Choice 1" "Choice 2" "Choice 3"]]
    

    button "Example 1" 100 [request ["Pick The Color of Your New Model 
    T" "Black"]]
    

    button "Example 2" 100 [request ["Pick one country" "England" "France"]]


    button "Example 3" 100 [request ["Run Extract Script?" "Yes" "No" 
    "Cancel"]]


---Pick A Date

    do [chosen-date: 01-Jun-1990]
    button "Pick Date" 200 [chosen-date: request-date]
    button "See Chosen Date" 200 [alert form chosen-date]

---Get A LogonID and Password

    do [credentials: none]
    button "Get Credentials" 200 [credentials: request-pass]
    button "View Credentials" 200 [
        view/new layout [
            size 200x200 backtile polished orange 
            across banner "Credentials" 
            return label "LogonID:  " txt pick credentials 1
            return label "Password: " txt pick credentials 2
        ]
    ]


---Pick A File


Format: REQUEST-FILE /title title-line button-text /file name /filter 
filt /keep    

        do [filter-block: ["*.gif" "*.jpg" "*.png" "*.bmp"]]

        button "Pick Any File" 300 [request-file "Select"]      

        button "Pick With A Title" 300 [request-file/title "Pick The Data 
        File to Process" "OK"]

        button "Change the Action Button Name" 300 [request-file/title "Pick 
        The Data File to Process" "OK"]        

        button "Keep Results" 300 [request-file/title/keep "Previous Select 
        On This Button Is Kept" "OK"]

        button "Filter Files" 300 [request-file/title/filter "Pick An Image 
        File" "OK" filter-block]    



---Request Text Input

Format: REQUEST-TEXT /offset xy /title title-text /default str
    

    button "Request Text Input - all default parameters" 300 [request-text]

    button "Request Text Input - with offset to window" 300 [request-text/offset 
    40x40]

    button "Request Text Input - with title" 300 [request-text/title 
    "Input your question"]

    button "Request Text Input - with default" 300 [request-text/default 
    "Key your question here"]

    button "Request Text Input - with all parameters" 300 [request-text/offset/title/default 
    100x100 "Input your question" "Key your question here"]



---Request Download from Net


Request a file download from the net. Show progress. Return none 
on error.

Format: REQUEST-DOWNLOAD url /to local-file

    backtile polished orange    

    button "Request File Download To local REBOL Cache" 300 [request-download 
    http://www.rebol.com/index.html]

    button "Request File Download To This Directory" 300 [request-download/to 
    http://www.rebol.com/index.htmlnone]

    button "Request File Download To Specific File" 300 [request-download/to 
    http://www.rebol.com/index.html%/c/temp.html]

===Message Box


    button "Format" 100 [request ["Your message goes here. It will wrap 
    if it is very very long and tedious." "Close"]] 
    button "Example" 100 [request ["You done good!" "OK"]]



---Confirmation

    button "Exit" 100 [
        request/confirm "Do you want to quit without saving?" []
    ]
    

===Calling the Editor

The REBOL editor is now callable with the editor function

    backtile polished
    button 300 "Create a test file and edit it" [
        write %temp.txt "This is a test file"
        editor %temp.txt
    ] frame 204.0.0 
    

===Calling Windows

With View/Pro the calling of executables is supported.

Here are two simple examples that will work if you have View/Pro 
on a platform where a notepad and calc are avaiable.

    across backtile size 200x200
    return button "Notepad" [call ["notepad.exe"]]
    return button "Calculator" [call ["calc.exe"]]


===Window Options


Note that these are options which are ignored by the easyvid.r code 
that displays them in this tutorial.
Copy the code out and run it standalone in REBOL/View.

---Block Options: No Border and No Title

    view/options layout [
        size 200x200 
        banner "Window Options" 
        button "Close" [unview]
        ] [
            no-border
            no-title
        ]


---Word Option: No Title


Note that the results of this are surprising if you run it from within 
a script that has a title option. It is displayed near location 0x0 
of the resulting window instead of in the window frame that has been 
suppressed. 

    view/options layout [
        size 200x200 
        banner "Window Options" 
        button "Close" [unview]
        ] 'no-title

===REBOL/View Notifiers


REBOL/View supports simple notifiers to send messages to a user interface


---Alert

    button 220 polished "Send alert message" [
        alert "This causes a dialogue box to popup"
    ]





---Flash

Flash is provided to provide a message and keep on processing.

    across size 200x200
    return button 150 "Create Flash Message" [flash "Testing"]
    return button 150 "Unview Flash" [unview]



---Inform

    inform layout  [
        backtile polished sky 

        across text font-size 16 bold underline red "Action complete!" 
        return button "OK"  [unview]]

---Popup

REBOL supports popups  (see note below before running!)

        across size 200x200 
        button "Show Popup" [
            show-popup popup-layout: layout [
                    across size 200x200 
                    backtile polished
                    banner "The Popup Worked" 
                    return button "Unview" [unview]
                ]
        ]
        return button "Hide Popup" [unview/only popup-layout]

I have had some difficulties (process lockup) when using

these popups so just use view layout [...] and skip the popup part.

===Diagram Example


Carl has created some diagrams in REBOL using styles to make an architecture 
diagram.

This is a slightly modified version.


Here again a DO block precedes the layout code for non-layout initiatiation 
... here the definition of a function.

Why make a diagram this way?


1. One reason is that it can be interactive ... the sections are 
all "hot" with a few lines of code.  Here they pop up REBOL Dialogs 
but they could do anything that can be coded even something as simple 
as launching a browser on a different URL for each diagram component. 
 The "Compositor" box demonstrates this by launching your browser 
on the REBOL.com site.


2. Very small footprint size compared to other presentation source 
formats.




 do [
        information: func [info [string!]][
        request/ok reform [ info]
    ]
 ]



    style bx box 255.255.255 0.0.0 font-size 11 font [color: 0.0.0 shadow: 
    0x0] edge [size: 5x2] 
        [request/ok reform ["No information on" face/text]] 

    style bb box bold left top para [origin: 6x10] edge [size: 2x2]
        [request/ok reform ["No information on" face/text]]
    backcolor silver + 30
    at 15x15 h1 486 left "Arch Structure" 
    at 15x50    bb "Client" 506x436 160.80.80 [

        information "Any client machine e.g. branch or Call Centre"]

    at 25x252   bb "Mid-Tier" 486x68 effect [gradient 1x1 169.91.155 
    80.45.75]

    at 25x152   bb "UI" 486x96    effect [gradient 1x1 38.156.82 19.78.41]

    at 25x324   bb "Servers" 486x151   effect [gradient 1x1 103.96.200 
    50.45.100] [

        information "Mid-tiers servers with XYZ relational database server" 
                                                                         
              
    ]

    at 130x216  bx "Compositor" 182x24 bold [browse http://www.rebol.com]

    at 130x60   bx "Browser" 120x24 [information "Branch standard browser"]

    at 130x188  bx "Sound" 182x24 bold [information "Sound services"]
    at 255x60   bx "Win32" 120x24 [information "Win32 App"]

===Column Images


Creates a layout looking (a little) like columns. It uses a gradient 
effect going from darker to lighter

 do [
     column: make image! layout [

            backdrop effect [gradient 1x0 20.20.20 250.240.230 luma 60]
        ]

    column-size: 50x420

    area-size: 400x420  ; height should be the same as column-size
 ]
 backtile polished tan
   across 
   image column-size  column 
   pad -10x0        ; this brings the default VID spacing back
   area wrap area-size  

   edge none        ; take the edge off of area so that it more closely 
   blends 
   shadow 2x2

   pad -10x0 image column-size column  ; if you want a right column

===Tree View of Directory

This is Didier's tree view %request-dir.r


In this sample, you must be online because the code is accessed on 
the Rebol script server

 do [do http://www.rebol.org/library/scripts/request-dir.r
     request-dir
 ]


Note that:

* the script is read from the script library but runs locally

* it is showing the files in your directories


===The emailer Function


The function for emailing has appeared in Jan-2004 on the rebol list.


It is a simple idea ... to create a standard emailer by invoking 
a function emailer. This window will show the source:

  text wrap 400x300 mold get 'emailer

And it is simple to run:

    across size 200x200
    return button 150 "Run emailer" [emailer]


But on my machine there is again a problem - the emailer locks up 
REBOL/View.

Recommendation:

* if it works use it if you like


* use Doc Kimbel's one liner (works for me). Assumes you have set 
up your email in set-user



 e: field "Email" s: field "Subject" m: area "Body" btn "Send"[send/subject 
 to-email e/text m/text s/text alert "ok"]



* better yet, make your own... if the code for the basic is 1 line, 
then a custom version is not far away. Here's an example that allows 
selection of your frequent contacts (entered in the names-addresses 
series) and keeps a journal of email that you have sent (using this 
code) in file email-journal.txt.  Assumes you have setup your user 
profile correctly to allow sending of email.


 do [

  names-addresses: [
    "Contact 1"         [contact1-:-no-such-address-:-com]
    "Contact 2"         [contact2-:-no-such-address-:-com]
    "Contact 3"         [contact3-:-no-such-address-:-com]
  ]

  names: copy []
  foreach [name address] names-addresses [append names name]


  journal?: false  ; set to true if want to journalize sent email
 ]

    e: rotary 200 data sort names
    s: field "Subject" 
    m: area 500x400 wrap "Body" 
    btn "Send"[

        send/subject who-to: select names-addresses e/text m/text s/text 
        alert join "Sent email to: " form who-to
        
        if journal? [
            write/append %email-journal.txt rejoin [
                "[ When-sent: " now/precise 
                " To: " who-to
                " Subject: {" s/text
                "} Message: {" m/text "} ] "
                newline
            ]
        ]
    ]
    btn "Quit" [unview]



It won't take much to change this from the rotary used to a text 
list allowing multiple selections.





===Some More email


Earlier there have been a few examples of sending email. Here are 
a few more that often appear in the mailing list

---Simple Send


This is not a runnable version because you don't need anything but 
REBOL/Core to run it. It has been wrapped in a DO block so it does 
not send errors to the console.

---Quick Send Short Message

 do [
    send [address-:-isp-:-com] "My Message"
 ]
 
---Send Longer Message  

Now a more complex message where there is a body to the message:

 do [
    send [address-:-isp-:-com] {Sample Message
               
    This is the body of the message
    } 
 ]

---Send with One Attachment


Here, so that the sample does not fail, test file(s) are created 
by the code before attempting the send. 

 do [
    test-file: %file-attachment.txt
    write test-file {Just some test data to create a file}
    send/attach [address-:-isp-:-com] {Sample Message
               
    This is the body of the message
    } test-file
 ]
 
---Send with Attachments

And a message with multiple attachments.


Here, so that the sample does not fail, test file(s) are created 
by the code before attempting the send. 

 do [
    files: [%file-attachment.txt %second-attachment.txt]

    foreach file files [write file {Just some test data to create a file}]
    send/attach [address-:-isp-:-com] {Sample Message
               
    This is the body of the message
    } files
 ]
 
---Send to Multiple Addresses


Here, so that the sample does not fail, test file(s) are created 
by the code before attempting the send. 

 do [
    files: [%file-attachment.txt %second-attachment.txt]

    foreach file files [write file {Just some test data to create a file}] 

    send/attach [[address-:-isp-:-com][asecondAddress-:-isp-:-com]] {Sample Message
               
    This is the body of the message
    } files
 ]
 
---Send/only

Same send only just provide the SMTP server with one copy:

Here, so that the sample does not fail, test file(s) are created 
by the code before attempting the send. 

  do [
    files: [%file-attachment.txt %second-attachment.txt]

    foreach file files [write file {Just some test data to create a file}] 

    send/only/attach [[address-:-isp-:-com][asecondAddress-:-isp-:-com]] {Sample 
    Message
               
    This is the body of the message
    } files
 ]
 
---Send With Header


This example uses a Do block to wrap the code. If you execute the 
email should be sent.
But it is unlikely to be delivered.


The addresses for me and you should be changed in your use as well 
as the

* Subject

* Organization

* Content 

 do [
   me: [myaddress-:-isp-:-com]
   you: [youraddress-:-isp-:-com]
   header-object: make system/standard/email [
            From: me
            Reply-To: me
            Subject: "Some Stuff"
            Organization: "Cyberia"
            MIME-Version: 1.0 
            Content-Type: "text/plain"
    ]
 send/header you {Test Message
    This is the message body.
    }                 
    header-object 
 ] 

---Send with CC

This adds a copy value in the header-object

 do [
   me: [myaddress-:-isp-:-com]
   you: [youraddress-:-isp-:-com]
   header-object: make system/standard/email [
            From: me
            Reply-To: me
            Subject: "Some Stuff"
            Organization: "Cyberia"
            MIME-Version: 1.0 
            Content-Type: "text/plain"
        cc: [another-address-:-isp-:-com]
    ]
 send/header you {Test Message
    This is the message body.
    }                 
    header-object 
 ] 


   
---Doctored Code

Again Doc Kimbel's one liner that does not waste a character


 e: field "Email" s: field "Subject" m: area "Body" btn "Send"[send/subject 
 to-email e/text m/text s/text alert "ok"]


===Sharp Styles


I really like the style that Didier has put around his email previewer

 do [
    ss-light: stylize [
        text: text feel none
        vtext: vtext feel none
        col-hdg: text black 255.255.204 bold middle effect []
        col-txt: text edge [size: 1x0 color: gray effect: 'bevel]
        ban: vh3 left to-pair reduce [
            50 logo.gif/size/y] edge [

                color: 0.0.0 size: 0x1] feel none with [color: black]
        lab: label para [origin: 2x3 margin: 0x2]
        labe: lab edge [size: 1x1 color: water effect: 'ibevel]
        inf: info 100 font-color yellow
        bkg: backdrop water - 10.10.10
        txt-big: vtext 300 font-size 18 font-color yellow center
        rti: vtext font-size 14 bold
        txt-ch: rti font-color white 170x22 para [
            origin: 2x3] with [font: make font [
                    color: white] colors: [55.95.155 235.170.55]]
        btnb: btn 70.70.70 font-color white

        men: rti 264 edge [size: 1x1 color: water effect: 'bevel] para [origin: 
        20x2 margin: 1x4]

             with [color: water - 40.40.40 effect: first effects: [

                [draw [pen white fill-pen white polygon 5x2 13x10 5x18]] [draw [pen 
                white fill-pen white polygon 2x5 10x13 18x5]]
             ] feel: none]  ;system/view/vid/vid-feel/hot]

        cbox: box 60x20 edge [size: 1x1 color: water effect: 'bevel] [

            if temp: request-color/color first face/data [face/color: temp change 
            face/data temp show face]
        ] with [append init [color: first data]]
    ]
    stylesheet: ss-heavy: stylize/styles [

        col-hdg: col-hdg effect [gradcol 0x1 200.200.160 155.155.104]

        ban: ban effect [merge gradcol 150.180.200 0.0.0] with [color: none]

        bkg: backdrop effect [gradient 1x1 65.125.175 45.75.115 grid 2000x4 
        1999x4 70.130.190 blur]
        txt-big: vtext 300 font-size 18 font-color yellow center
        rti: vtext font-size 14 bold

        txt-ch: txt-ch effect [gradcol -1x1 105.105.105 151.151.151]
        men: men effect [gradcol -1x0 black water]
    ] ss-light
 ]
    styles stylesheet
    space 4x4 origin 4x4 across
    bkg
    pad 15 ban 235 :title para [origin: 32x0]
    pad -254
    image 30x30 %palms.jpg effect [fit key 255.0.255]
}
code: text: layo: external-view: none
sections: []
layouts: []
space: charset " ^-"
chars: complement charset " ^-^/"

rules: [title some parts]

title: [text-line (title-line: text)]

parts: [
      newline
    | "===" section
    | "---" subsect
    | "!" note
    | example
    | paragraph
]

text-line: [copy text to newline newline]
indented:  [some space thru newline]
paragraph: [copy para some [chars thru newline] (emit txt para)]
note: [copy para some [chars thru newline] (emit-note para)]
example: [
    copy code some [indented | some newline indented]
    (emit-code code)
]

section: [
    text-line (
        append sections text
        append/only layouts layo: copy page-template
        emit h1 text
    ) newline
]
subsect: [text-line (emit h2 text)]
emit: func ['style data] [repend layo [style data]]
emit-code: func [code] [
    remove back tail code
    repend layo ['code 460x-1 trim/auto code 'show-example]
]
emit-note: func [code] [
    remove back tail code
    repend layo ['tnt 460x-1 code]
]

show-example: [

    if external-view [xy: external-view/offset  unview/only external-view]
    xcode: load/all face/text
    if not block? xcode [xcode: reduce [xcode]] ;!!! fix load/all
    if here: select xcode 'layout [xcode: here]
    external-view: view/new/offset layout xcode xy
]

page-template: [
    size 500x480 origin 8x8
    backdrop white - 80

    style code tt snow navy bold as-is para [origin: margin: 12x8]
    style tnt txt maroon bold
]

parse/all detab content rules
show-page: func [i /local blk last-face][
    i: max 1 min length? sections i
    append clear tl/picked pick sections i 
    if blk: pick layouts this-page: i [
        f-box/pane: layout/offset blk 0x0 
        last-face: last f-box/pane/pane    ; bh slider

    f-box/pane/pane/1/size: f-box/pane/size: max 500x480 add 20x20 add 
    last-face/offset last-face/size ; bh slider
    update-slider ; bh slider
        show f-box
    ]

    show tl    ; changed to after slider update ; was not refreshing 
    the index display
]


update-slider: does [
    sld/data: 0
    either object? f-box/pane [
        sld/redrag min 1.0 divide sld/size/2 f-box/pane/size/2
        sld/action: func[face event] compose [

            f-box/pane/offset/2: multiply face/data (subtract 480 f-box/pane/size/2)
            show f-box
        ]
    ][
        sld/redrag 1.0 show sld
        sld/action: none
    ]
    show sld
]

main: layout [
    backtile polished
    across
    vh2 title-line return
    tl: text-list 160x480 bold black white data sections [
        show-page index? find sections value
    ]
    h: at
    f-box: box 500x480

  at h + 500x0 sld: slider 24x480                 ; add brett's slider
    at h + 456x-24
    across space 4
    arrow left  keycode [up left] [show-page this-page - 1]
    arrow right keycode [down right] [show-page this-page + 1]
    pad -150

    txt white italic font-size 16 form system/script/header/date/date
]

show-page 1
xy: main/offset + either system/view/screen-face/size/x > 900 [
    main/size * 1x0 + 8x0][300x300]
view main

I got the code from the 1.3.1 executable, so it does not necessarily 
use the same license as the one distributed with the older SDK.

I think I should change the code a bit .. as if all the readings 
are distributed near the top of the y axis, then the bottom of the 
graph looks barren.

Hmm... the thing is that the faces must have different positions. 
So it's not distributed evenly. The apps is this:

I have day numbers 1-30/31 from left to right. And now at each Monday 
position, I want to draw the week-number. So x-positions shift.

Gabriele, the four limits create, in between them, 3 zones where 
the available space is distributed proportionally. Having three zones 
allows the faces to behave differently depending on whether space 
is at a premium, whether there's an "normal" amount of space, or 
whether there's lots of available space.

hmm, I think if you are resizing proportionally the space between 
elements can be also distributed proportionally so no need to care 
about it? But maybe I just didn't get it so looking forward to some 
examples ;)

first use will be to build a keyframe editor, which will be distributed 
with liquid-paint, with MIT license.

I believe in Carl's vision "REBOL is perfect for lightweight distributed 
applications". Users need light-weight responsive gui clients that 
can work both online and offline. The evolution of the Web is moving 
(slowly) in this direction, with AJAX/Flash/JavaFX as examples of 
a more responsive and rich gui clients, BUT it's too complex and 
unreliable. The industry is adding kludge upon kludge to "fix" the 
problems resulting in further complexity and code bloat, but what 
is needed is a clean approach that captures the essence of what made 
the web a phenomal success in the first place - any body could set 
up/develop a web site and they did. Enterprise data centers need 
scalable, reliable, manageable (server) applications that run 24x7 
on commodity hardware ata reasonable price. The user PC's should 
require zero management for the applications, which is the primary 
(only?) attraction of the web ui. Question if the application is 
simple to manage and delivers the functionality the user wants, why 
do they need a fat complex os? As an example my kids get online to 
play games, research homework, etc. and they hate it (so do I) when 
the PC/OS gets in the way. Also, that PC/OS is a major source of 
 trouble with viruses and lack of (simple) control to what my kids 
can access.

How about this for an idea: you allocate space for each page reference 
as if it's the largest likely page, eg 9999. As each page reference 
is resolved, you get some space back, but that reclaimed space becomes 
"dead" whitespace (probably placed at the end of the page, or distributed 
amongst other whitespace), and it does not cause an earlier  page-break. 
So the page reference resolution will not affect the pagination.

But the clients were Syllable Desktop running in VMs on Windows. 
That's how the client app was distributed - also to customers

Maarten, I agree with your observation and you can even scale it 
more.


If you see a web-server as just a request dispatcher to CGIs and 
a fast-answering-machine for user-feedback (pages, forms etc.) you 
just need a small and "simple" one like Cheyenne. The CGIs can be 
distributed to different cores (through the OS) or even to different 
machines (via TCP/IP).

We can assume, Cairo is distributed under LGPL, right? If so, it 
becomes 
really incompatible with the GPL. For now I'd suggest you 
to keep using AGG 
2.4, at least until we can come up with a better 
legal solution. Basically, 
I want to prevent some 
commercial monster corporations" from free use of 

AGG. But I do want the Linux world to keep using it for free. I'm 
not quite 

sure how well LGPL protects from uncontrolled free commercial use; 
if it 

does, I may re-think and switch to the LGPL. But I'm not willing 
to keep 

using totally free, BSD-like licences in future versions. Ideally, 
I'd like 
to come up with some kind of a QT-like licensing scheme."

thanks. I can see e.g. big portals like  our local http://www.idnes.cz
using almost plain CSS. I noticed it on my cell phone, when FUP applied. 
The html is one long page, which then gets distributed around the 
site upon the CSS, once it is loaded ....

Images from Apollo Missions


The talk about language niches and "Lightweight distributed computing" 
in the "Io" group made me remember a REBOL program, I did last year. 
It takes images from www.apolloarchive.com and present them in a 
REBOL program, where it's possible to zoom, change light and contrast 
and others. Get it here:
http://home.tiscali.dk/john.niclasen/apollo.zip


First run the script "makeidx.r", which will build image indexes. 
Wait until files from "apidx_11" to "apidx_17_b" are build. Then 
run the program "apollo.r". Instructions in the first window. It 
takes time to get thumbs and images the first time, and the program 
doesn't have a load indicator, so be patience and wait for window 
to open after activating a control. It's possible to swtich between 
windows.

Have fun!

geomol,

interesting concept. It will also be interesting to see the performance 
and behavior with
different filesystems like: ZFS,REISER, NFS XFS, CFS, GFS etc.

in mysql you can choose the database engine, with nicomDB you choose 
the filesystem 

for different features. (e.g. REISER for speed, NFS for distributed 
networking, CFS/EncFS 
for crypto, GFS for cluster etc. :-) 
any aprox. date when it will be available?

I wish. Betas of it have been freely distributed, but there is not 
yet any place that you can download a release version of Pro, Base 
or Face seperate from the SDK. It was suggested to Carl that Base 
be ported to more platforms (particularly WinCE) and he seemed to 
think it was a good idea.

I'm currently developing a load-svg-icon function that will take 
an SVG file name and size, and return a scaled draw block. Some questions 
need addressing first though (feel free to post the GPL answers to 
the licensing group):


1) Can I distribute a set of GPL SVG icons with the RebGUI zip bundle? 
If so, under what terms / conditions?

2) If someone creates a RebGUI binary application (with the to be 
released SDK) can they include GPLed SVG files, and if so, under 
what terms / conditions?

3) Can GPLed SVG files be distributed under a different file name(s)? 
(e.g. rename gnome-gtk-folder-icon3.svg to open.svg)

4) What if I want to take a set of GPLed SVG files and distribute 
them as pre-converted draw-blocks (so RebGUI apps don't need to convert 
icons from SVG to Draw)?

Now some design questions:


1) Should the result of the proposed load-svg-icon be a draw block 
or an image?

2) Should RebGUI have a stock image cache or a stock draw-cmds cache? 
(i.e. is it better to cache draw cmds or images)

Qtask Spell checker ... YES PLEASE. Ideally we could provide links 
to download required functionality / language files as these resources 
may need to be bundled / distributed stand-alone.

this DISTANCE? version looks twice as fast as the one currently distributed:

distance?: make function! [
	"Returns the distance between two points."
    p1 [pair!] "First point"
    p2 [pair!] "Second point"
][
	p1: p1 - p2
	p1: p1 * p1
    square-root p1/x + p1/y
]

In that case, you need to rely on slave processes, each one executing 
TRETBASE. This means that you have to set up a distributed architecture, 
think about disk-writing synchronization between slaves, caches consistency,... 
All these could be easier done if we had multi-threading support 
in REBOL. It can be done without, but it's more complex and much 
less efficient.

What is distributed actors library? sounds interesting 8)

2) No, Shadwolf  and I have done a Reblet that renders MDP documents. 
Something like his MDP-GUI. The idea is to use such a browser (with 
an attached editor) as base for a x-internet wiki system. Distributed 
via IOS.

i guess there are multiple levels of protocols. 

one is tcp<->http and such, brom bytes to structured messages. thats 
uniserve. 

the next is from http<->orientation. you need that to ask for services 
and such. with p2p even more, for distributed searching. thats chord 
and such. 

lns and beer support building things like chord. maybe kind of networks-events 
thru p2p-apps.
then you have a orientation<->meaning, which is app-specific.

Everyone that is downloading or has downloaded the file(s) is a peer, 
part of the swarm, until they disconnect. What Azureus calls a Peer 
is someone who hasn't finished downloading yet - this was traditionally 
referred to as a Leach, but some people got offended. A seed is someone 
who has the whole file(s) and is still connected to the torrent to 
provide the file(s) to those who are still downloading.


When it says Seeds 4(6) and Peers 0(1), it means the tracker can 
see 6 "seeds" but you are actually connected to 4, and that the tracker 
can see 4 "peers" but you aren't connected to any of them. If you 
are behind a NAT your external IP address is different, so you may 
be in either the peer or seed set, one of the ones you aren't connected 
to.


You may also be connected to others through DHT, a kind of distributed 
tracker. The regular tracker won't necessarily see those, so you 
can't assume that the 4 seeds you are connected to are all part of 
the 6 that the tracker sees, for instance. This only matters when 
you are connecting to shaky tracker sites or those that enforce friendly 
upload/download ratios.

Ashley, can you explain in a little more detail how your setup works 
for you?

 Sure. I run a home office with two studies. Each has a Mac mini (plus 
 Cinema display) for day-to-day work. My study also has a TabletPC 
 connected to a 1280x1024 VGA LCD display. I use this for REBOL development 
 and demos away from home.


The iBook is located in the other study and is used by my better 
half when running Windows software related to our finance company 
(CRM/Sales software distributed via the professional body we belong 
to, no Mac or Linux option available). We also use the iBook when 
showing non-IT people stuff (e.g. a spreadsheet showing how much 
their portfolio could be worth if they geared it) and when attending 
training sessions.


The ADSL modem has an ethernet connection to Airport express, which 
in turn has the MFC plugged into its USB slot. The Mac's pick up 
the printer automatically, the TabletPC runs Bonjour and does the 
same. Everything, including the TabletPC, detected the Network without 
issue. It really has been as simple as, 1) Unpack, 2) Plug-in, 3) 
Use. I've also noticed that WinXP running on the iBook is a lot faster/smoother 
than on the TabletPC as it installs 'clean' (i.e. piggy-backs off 
the Mac's Network and Hardware support).


Large screens are a must if you write and or read a lot of documents. 
A 1920x1200 screen lets you do a slideshow on a PDF document and 
read the pages side-by-side. On wide screens I always have the task-bar/dock 
on the right to maximize the vertical display area.

Yes denismx, but that is not the only approach possible. Erlang passes 
byte code, and it is very good at distributed computing, same with 
Termite.

http://itmmetelko.com/blog/2009/04/12/playing-with-making-an-actor-like-distributed-system-in-rebol/
 ... I am thinking that I won't change it all and make usage more 
ugly becase right now I don't even know If I will ever need to have 
100000 actors running..  so for now I will continue using object 
and try to make it elegant without worying about this

hi janko,

have you seen the erlang concept of concurrent distributed programming? 
http://erlang.org/doc/getting_started/part_frame.html
perhaps you can find there some additional ideas.
A robust and complete p2p component in rebol would be fantastic.

distributed 3d desktop nased on rebservices? :)

  MySQL 5.0 Adds Features for Enterprise Developers and DBAs
by Ken 
  North

Baseball legend Satchel Paige is famous for having said 

Don't look back, something might be gaining on you." Companies selling 
a commercial SQL database management system (DBMS) know its MySQL 
that's gaining on them. With an already large installed base, MySQL 
is set to attract new users because of the feature set of version 
5.0. It includes capabilities for which developers have often turned 
to commercial SQL products.


The purposes for which we use personal, mobile, workgroup, departmental, 
enterprise and web databases are diverse. Application requirements 
are a primary determinant of the capacity and features we need from 
an SQL DBMS. For example, a high-volume transaction processing web 
site places greater demands on a database than a contact list manager 
for laptops and small business servers.


A Web Techniques magazine article, "Web Databases: Fun with Guests 
or Risky Business?" discussed features that characterize an industrial-grade 
SQL DBMS. It explained SQL security and mission-critical databases, 
defined as


    "A database is mission critical if its lack of data integrity has 
    serious consequences, such as causing the loss of customers or even 
    lives."


Maintaining data integrity is implicit -- that's a prime directive 
for a DBMS. The article explained other features that enterprise 
developers look for in an SQL platform:


    ... mission-critical applications require features such as intrinsic 
    security, transaction journaling, concurrency controls and the ability 
    to enforce data integrity constraints. Without those features, you 
    do not have secure, robust databases. Connecting a database to a 
    Web server adds other requirements, such as a multithreaded architecture 
    and the ability to do database backups without taking the server 
    down.


    Freeware and PC DBMSs are suitable for certain classes of applications, 
    but not for high-volume Web sites and mission-critical databases. 
    In any case, don't bet your business, or lives, on such software 
    unless you have the source code and the expertise to understand and 
    repair it.


Since that article appeared in print, improvements to MySQL have 
removed the "not ready for prime time" label. Features described 
in that article are now available to MySQL users:

    * transactions
    * concurrency control, locking, SQL standard isolation levels
    * intrinsic security
    * integrity constraints
    * thread-based memory allocation.

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MySQL uses separate threads to handle TCP/IP and named pipes connections, 
authentication, signaling, alarms and replication. The combination 
of threaded architecture and MySQL clustering provides powerful parallel 
processing capabilities. MySQL can process transactions in parallel 
with separate connections on separate processors using separate threads.
MySQL Milestones


A decade of development has moved MySQL out of the bare-bones DBMS 
category, enlarged its user base, and turned MySQL AB into a profitable 
company. One of the important milestones was integration of the InnoDB 
engine with MySQL 4.0. That upgrade gave MySQL multiple tablespaces, 
tables greater than 4GB and support for transaction processing. Other 
enhancements included OpenGIS spatial data types and hot backups. 
The latter enables a DBA to perform a backup without taking the DBMS 
offline. Hot backup software is available as a commercial add-on 
for databases using the InnoDB storage engine. 


MySQL 5.0, the newest version, is a major milestone. There have been 
enhancements to the tool sets, storage engines, types and metadata. 
 MySQL 5.0 includes features enterprise developers have come to expect 
from commercial SQL products. 

    * capacity for very large databases
    * stored procedures
    * triggers
    * named-updateable views
    * server-side cursors
    * type enhancements
    * standards-compliant metadata (INFORMATION_SCHEMA)
    * XA-style distributed transactions
    * hot backups.


MySQL has a demonstrated capacity for managing very large databases. 
Mytrix, Inc. maintains an extensive collection of Internet statistics 
in a one terabyte (1 TB) data warehouse that contains 20 billion 
rows of data. Sabre Holdings runs the oldest and largest online travel 
reservation system. It replicates 10-60 gigabytes per day from its 
master database to a MySQL server farm. The MySQL databases are used 
to support a shopping application that can accommodate a million 
fare changes per day."

not yet, but maybe in time... the article talks about technology 
which currently exists, but is not distributed by apple.

(one of Tanenbaums distributed osses).

doesn't erlang allow for distributed cpu processing as well on nodes

distributed virus networks

full
 as in distributed

But, there is still a chance. REBOL was made for what it was made 
for - lightweight distributed apps. We are scrapping "the bad", and 
remedying situation with R3. Does web in general throws away bad 
ideas? Mostly not. Where situation will get more interesting is the 
compatibility. In the past, there was IE, then FF, and Opera. Now 
Apple and Google entered the game, with more significant browser 
market share. We will see, what headache all those new browser cause 
to developers - I mean - various incompatibilities between browsers. 
Not to mention mobile browser incarnations, which are often separate 
projects ...

Microsoft releases code for "multikernel" research OS - Barrelfish 
- 


http://www.osnews.com/story/22241/Microsoft_Releases_Code_for_Multikernel_Research_OS_Barrelfish_


Most of us are probably aware of Singularity, a research operating 
system out of Microsoft Research which explored a number of new ideas, 
which is available as open source software. Singularity isn't the 
only research OS out of Microsoft; they recently released the first 
snapshot of a new operating system, called Barrelfish. It introduces 
the concept of the multikernel, which treats a multicore system as 
a network of independent cores, using ideas from distributed systems.

Credit: News taken from OSNews.com

Another MS Research OS - Helios ... sounds like a distributed REBOL 
:-)


Helios is an operating system designed to simplify the task of writing, 
deploying, and tuning applications for heterogeneous platforms. Helios 
introduces satellite kernels, which export a single, uniform set 
of OS abstractions across CPUs of disparate architectures and performance 
characteristics. Access to I/O services such as file systems are 
made transparent via remote message passing, which extends a standard 
microkernel message-passing abstraction to a satellite kernel infrastructure. 
Helios retargets applications to available ISAs by compiling from 
an intermediate language.


http://www.osnews.com/story/22251/Another_Microsoft_Research_Operating_System_Helios

It seems incredible that they would go ahead and purchase all the 
machines without even a thought for how they'd be used, yet as they 
have been distributed, there does appear to be great potential in 
utilising them as educational tools...

the one by Microsoft, distributed with OS1.3? :)

today's sw world, distributed, without signatures? The thing is, 
someone from RT confirmed that the stuff is inside, just not exposed. 
And that is waste of resources. So - expose them.

What I am talking all the time about is - how to build trust in distributed 
environment. Some of us will need to produce scripts with lowered 
security. If I see a requestor asking me for lowering security, I 
will not run the app, unless I can be sure, that it comes from Gabriele 
for e.g., and that if Gabriele ruins my HD data, I can visit DevCon 
next year and ask for refundation :-))

Henrik: that's not exactly what I'm driving at.  From a visual pov, 
it's very easy to put together an interface in HTML -- it's the behaviour 
part that bites.  Also, frameworks are becoming far more savvy -- 
they may not have the lexical elegance of Rebol, but others are narrowing 
down the patterns that make developing browser-based semi-distributed 
applications much easier.

this database was distributed across the network or something ... 
don't recall all the details

For source code - looking at using a distributed source code system

Not distributed

Distributed version control is far superior over the classic schemes

There are many advantages to using a distributed vcs, all variants 
on a theme. For example:

- You can track changes within your own code without submitting it 
until it is ready.

- It is easier to collaborate with other people without having to 
put your changes into the central repository.

This makes it easier to make large changes with the help of other 
people, and is why I suggested Mercurial over CVS.


The problem with all of this is that the main purpose of DevBase 
isn't source control, it is managing development workflow. No other 
vcs handles the workflow management function of DevBase. Without 
the workflow management Carl can't manage contributions.

If the browser plugin is doing the distributed computing work, the 
result sets could be sent to the server under the restrictions I 
propose.

Henrik: is Flash even installed any more?  Seems it's distributed 
with the OS nowadays.

Cookies can be used to track your movements, and can be used as persistent 
distributed storage.

Imagine if Google used the plugin for their ads - they would be able 
to store their whole database distributed amongst the computers of 
everyone on the internet. Would a security requestor be able to explain 
that to a newbie?

basically a connection based TCP i/o interface to any liquid network. 
 you define the ports, the protocol (on either end) and can then 
interface your Dataflow across machines  :-)  it would allow distributed 
processing without any understanding of such concepts.

coming back to your reflexions on a liquid based processing network, 
it recalls me a distributed code programming language : "wave system", 
developed in the 90's, and allowing to spread a code in a large and 
unstructured network for neighbour to neighbour, wher each node executes 
a part of the code, and provides a part of the information requested, 
and transmits. It is unfortunately difficult to find info on this 
system, which was developed by Peter Sapaty. It seems that it was 
recently used in a light version for network problems studies : "wiseman" 
http://www.ece.ubc.ca/~vleung/IWCMC2008Keynote VLeung.pdf , 
and http://www.ece.ubc.ca/~sergiog/wiseman/WisemanManual.pdf

It is *very* attractive, all the stuff you get basically for free, 
in the context of building distributed systems.

A good starting point for doc links is http://www.erlang.org/doc.html
.


The pros are that it's been around for a long time, it was built 
to solve a specific type of problem, and has been proven to work 
for large commercial systems. It also has a nice community it seems. 


Just as C# and VB.net are capable languages, you really need to know 
the .NET framework to make things sing. Erlang, by itself, is very 
capable, but the OTP (Open Telecom Platform) provides a huge amount 
of value on top of it, if you're building distributed systems. It 
also has Yaws, Ejabberd, and other things already built that you 
can leverage.


On the downside, it's a very different model that takes some getting 
used to, though Maarten got up to speed for experimentation very 
quickly. If you're used to Prolog, that will help. It's also really 
only good for back end stuff, so we would still be doing front ends 
in something else, which wasn't the dealbreaker in our case. What 
turned us away was the security model. It's designed for use in an 
intranet type (read safe) environment, where access to machines on 
the cluster is controlled by secret cookie. If your cookie is compromised, 
they have absolute power over the node, and any nodes it shares that 
cookie with.  http://www.erlang.org/doc/reference_manual/distributed.html#11.7


We decided that, since we would end up building security on top of 
everything, using something like dialects for control, we were better 
off sticking with REBOL. There are a number of things out there already 
to bulid on (LNS, Rugby, Uniserve, BEER), we can really do things 
the way we want, in a tool we know we like and are comfortable with. 
And we know its limitations, so there will be fewer surprises.

Maarten, yes you can set the secret cookie but if one system is compromised 
the whole distributed system is. how is that different in other architectures 
?

For some synergy: Distributed screensaving slotmachines? :D

you mean distributed screensaving slotmachines for military.... : 
)

The future  is here, it's just unevenly distributed among pithy sci-fi 
authors

LADISLAV POSTED THIS in rebgui group:


this DISTANCE? version looks twice as fast as the one currently distributed:

distance?: make function! [
	"Returns the distance between two points."
    p1 [pair!] "First point"
    p2 [pair!] "Second point"
][
	p1: p1 - p2
	p1: p1 * p1
    square-root p1/x + p1/y
]

the gamma issue is a standard "senior artist" debunking test for 
high-end effects artists  hehe


tell the (often ego-filled, highly paid) artist to a simple pan a 
starlit field (a simple sky shot at night).   he will LAUGH and tell 
you that's its an easy thing to do...  and then watch him struggle 
with the results, if he doesn't know his theory.


what happens is that as a pixel is distributed across several pixels, 
it will dim. as the pixel gets closer and closer to a 1:1 position 
with another pixel it will pop right back.


you must pre-amplify the "energy" of the light before panning, and 
then bring it back down... which, depending on the image & screen 
will usually be a value between 1.7 to 2.2.