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Having read about REBOL 3, here is my first request: I would like 
to have console-mode versions of /Core, /Pro and /Command for Windows, 
preferably compiled as relocatable. Although this would help with 
a few projects, the main reason I would like this is to make REBOL 
more compatible with Windows alternatives like SanOS and HX, for 
a single-floppy bootable REBOL server that can run in 16 MB ram or 
less. This may sound silly but I've wanted to do this for a while.

Anonymous Subversion Access


This project's SVN repository can be checked out through anonymous 
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svn checkout https://svn.uitwisselplatform.nl/svn/detective

the arc command specifically

Perhaps you need rebol/command

rebol/command core seems to work

The obvious caveat is that it doesn't work over SSL, that I'm afraid 
is an exercise for those using /Command or Stunnel.

auto-tagging is also flexible, especially when you use the parent 
modes.  this automatically adds tags to your note based on the parent 
it is in.
this is done even when its grouped later.  


I will be adding a "get all children" command so that it can be used 
in macros. (add/remove tags to a whole group)

the strange thing is, that when he does 'unview, followed by the 
same command, then the image is full, not cutt-off ... anyone?

Anybody of some generic form validation scripts/hints.  I like how 
.Net allows you to validate a group of radio buttons with one command 
rather than having to code a check for each radio button in the group.

Hello, I'm trying to write my first program in REBOL, besides "Hello, 
World!", heh. Anyway, I am trying to take the output of the DOS ipconfig 
command and only grab the IP address for my local NIC out of it. 
I would like to display the IP address only in a window in a large 
font. I have played with the call command in REBOL and have been 
able to use call/output to write the output of the command to a text 
file. My question is what would be the best way of grabbing the IP 
address I need out of this text file? Maybe there is another way 
I should be approaching this too, I'm not sure? Your thoughts and 
suggestions are appreciated. :)

Thanks so much Sunanda, a couple of my customers receive stock update 
files as csv's (I don't think we could get them to send tsv's ) but 
that will fill a requirement brilliantly. If I decide to move any 
more complex apps to Rebol I may need to wait till I can get R3/command, 
I believe that will give me odbc (for excel and access) imports etc.

here is some code I have been working on (commented) but the start 
button is busted I want it to call the area box with the discalimer 
details & 2No further buttons, one to quit "Disagree" which is a 
quit command & "Agree" I want to CLS the page & start a fresh copy 
of the XP simulated window, the start button would then open a different 
menu here is the code (its not very elegant I'm afraid):

  rebol [Title: "SOS-XP"]
  view layout [

  ;makes a gui window 768x576 with a simulated desktop (xP blue) with 
  ibevelled border.
  image center %DT.jpg 768x576 ibevel pewter 6x6

  ;creates an area text box color red with disclaimer message & 2No 
  buttons "agree" & "disagree"

  ; which hopefully will be situated in the XP destop when the start 
  button is clicked.
  disclaim: [at 200x300

  area wrap font-color white {You use this program & batch files entirely 
  at your own risk,
due to the myriad of hardware/software configurations I cannot
without any certainty claim that you will not damage your system!
Always Always Always make a full system backup of your partition
before attempting to use SOS-XP & that you have tested the back

up so your are positive in your own mind you can make a recovery!} 
red bold 
  at 240x410 button "Agree"
  at 450x410 button "Disagree"]
  ; this is the simulated XP start button
  button gray 50x30 "START" [disclaim]

  ; this is a small vertical button to make the xP start button look 
  more realistic.
  at 75x605 button gray 3x30

  ; this is a digital clock to simulate the destop clock bottom right 
  on screen.

  at 750x610 text "00:00" rate 1 black ;effect [gradient 0x1 0.0.150 
  0.0.50]
  feel [engage: func [face act] [face/text: now/time  show face]]

]755x650  rebol [Title: "SOS-XP"]
  view layout [

  ;makes a gui window 768x576 with a simulated desktop (xP blue) with 
  ibevelled border.
  image center %DT.jpg 768x576 ibevel pewter 6x6

  ;creates an area text box color red with disclaimer message & 2No 
  buttons "agree" & "disagree"

  ; which hopefully will be situated in the XP destop when the start 
  button is clicked.
  disclaim: [at 200x300

  area wrap font-color white {You use this program & batch files entirely 
  at your own risk,
due to the myriad of hardware/software configurations I cannot
without any certainty claim that you will not damage your system!
Always Always Always make a full system backup of your partition
before attempting to use SOS-XP & that you have tested the back

up so your are positive in your own mind you can make a recovery!} 
red bold 
  at 240x410 button "Agree"
  at 450x410 button "Disagree"]
  ; this is the simulated XP start button
  button gray 50x30 "START" [disclaim]

  ; this is a small vertical button to make the xP start button look 
  more realistic.
  at 75x605 button gray 3x30

  ; this is a digital clock to simulate the destop clock bottom right 
  on screen.

  at 750x610 text "00:00" rate 1 black ;effect [gradient 0x1 0.0.150 
  0.0.50]
  feel [engage: func [face act] [face/text: now/time  show face]]

]755x650  rebol [Title: "SOS-XP"]
  view layout [

  ;makes a gui window 768x576 with a simulated desktop (xP blue) with 
  ibevelled border.
  image center %DT.jpg 768x576 ibevel pewter 6x6

  ;creates an area text box color red with disclaimer message & 2No 
  buttons "agree" & "disagree"

  ; which hopefully will be situated in the XP destop when the start 
  button is clicked.
  disclaim: [at 200x300

  area wrap font-color white {You use this program & batch files entirely 
  at your own risk,
due to the myriad of hardware/software configurations I cannot
without any certainty claim that you will not damage your system!
Always Always Always make a full system backup of your partition
before attempting to use SOS-XP & that you have tested the back

up so your are positive in your own mind you can make a recovery!} 
red bold 
  at 240x410 button "Agree"
  at 450x410 button "Disagree"]
  ; this is the simulated XP start button
  button gray 50x30 "START" [disclaim]

  ; this is a small vertical button to make the xP start button look 
  more realistic.
  at 75x605 button gray 3x30

  ; this is a digital clock to simulate the destop clock bottom right 
  on screen.

  at 750x610 text "00:00" rate 1 black ;effect [gradient 0x1 0.0.150 
  0.0.50]
  feel [engage: func [face act] [face/text: now/time  show face]]

]755x650

Since you are new to programming:


Beginning with an existing program like this may not be optimal for 
understanding how things work, because there are tens of things going 
on in that example. It's the understanding of the underlying principles 
that allow you to build your own programs, and beginning with a big 
example like this throws all principles in your face at once. That 
can be very confusing, like being asked to fly a jumbo jet without 
training. This is why it's so difficult for you to get this example 
to work.


What I would do: Put the program away for now and start using the 
console intensively. Write single commands or a single line of code. 
The immediate feedback from the console lets you learn quickly. The 
console is not simply a service to let you run programs: It's a powerful 
tool that allows you to LEARN. I use it every time I'm in doubt over 
what a specific command will do. The console is your friend. Don't 
be afraid of it. :-)


When you've written enough VID programs in the console, you can start 
looking at the example again, or even better: Write it from scratch 
yourself. That's the best approach.

there is a lot to be said for straight forward finds & excludes, 
paticularly if it is done repeatedly on the previous output.

I am trying to understand how to use Rebol in a way that will be 
flexable to read maybe a few hundred Cisco config files & command 
outputs with perhaps 20 or 30 different types of rules for finding 
stuff then putting it into a structure that will be easy to search 
for patterns & extract summeries of  information. All the information 
you might have in a network diagram, but in a text or database format.

another very basic question.
how can I pass a filename from the command line please?


filename: %/c/temp/file.txt works fine, but if I pass the filename 
from the command line it get surrounded by ""

do I have to parse the result to get the filename, or is there a 
simpler way for something so common?
The only reference I could find was here
http://www.rebol.com/docs/sdk/custom.html#section-3


It seems there is a great deal of Rebol documentation, but simple 
questions can be had to find answers to.

assuming the file name is a string in system/options/args
  filename: to-file system/options/args

Though you may want to error trap that -- in case the command line 
is malformed. One way:
   filename: none
  attempt [ filename: to-file system/options/args]
  if none? file-name [print "Bad command line" halt]

Thanks Sunanda,  that is very handy, I didnt realise help searched 
like that, I thought you had to give it an exact command.  very good.

Instead of:
  filename: none
  attempt [ filename: to-file system/options/args]
  if none? file-name [print "Bad command line" halt]
I would use:
if error? try [filename: to-file system/options/args][
	print "Bad command line" halt
]

I really don't like that people use the attemp in cases where they 
expect error. I use own attempt in cases where I don't expect error 
but still want to continue with execution (display and log the error).

aha, you want something like the AT command. That is easy.
[here: "string" :here]

A question: if I want to provide a dialoge to navigate to a directory 
can I call up the ms windows file open & save dialogs, or do I have 
to do it all in rebol. I cant find any examples of this & dont have 
the skills to create my own...  I like the idea of having a GUI interface, 
but I may have to go back to command line if it is too hard for me 
:-)

let me check the syntax for the image command...

you can add manual kerning with the kern command

you can use a vbox [ ... ] and put any graphic command inside it.

When I use this command, I don't get an image, and my 13 page pdf 
stops at the first page

Pekr: the SVG Demo is just a quick and dirty prototype. I'm just 
going to get it to the stage where it can display simple SVG icons 
(for RebGUI). If someone else wants to write an SVG viewer that is 
fully SVG 1.1 (with 1.2 around the corner) compatible then good luck 
... I'm *not* going to be doing that! ;)


yeksoon: see above comments. I'm tweaking the SVG Demo code on an 
SVG icon by icon basis. As long as it works for the icons I use (or 
intend to use) I'm happy - I don't guarantee the code will work with 
anything other than the specific SVG files I have tested it on.


Cyphre: SVG is such a "flexible" standard isn't it? :) One question; 
how did you map SVG "path d" commands (e.g. <path style=... d="M 
10 10 C 20 20 ... z") where there is no "z" command to close the 
"shape" (i.e. the AGG shape command closes by default).


shadwolf: Having our own SVG icons is a good idea as we don't have 
to worry about licence / distribution issues and we can tweak the 
generation to make it as AGG compatible as possible. To do that we 
need to settle on *one* tool so as we generate consistent SVG code, 
and we should generate SVG that uses a single unit of measure, preferably 
pixels, as it's a real pain trying to handle multiple units of measure 
within the same file. I'll continue this discussion in the RebGUI 
group.

shadwolf: there's the 'matrix command for 2x3 matrix in draw/AGG 
: the syntax is
  matrix [a b c d e f]
where the equivalent 3x3 matrix is:
  | a c e |
  | b d f |
  | 0 0 1 |

if I'm correct , "matrix(2.082761,0.529757,-0.491943,1.944909,4.543758,-12.39301)" 
translates to
matrix [2.082761 0.529757 -0.491943 1.944909 4.543758 -12.39301]

shadwolf: the format of MATIX command has the same argument order 
as in SVG specs.

Shadwolf: I analyzed your SVG example with nested MATRIX command 
and found little bug in matrix calculation. Thanks for pointing this 
out! I know the solution so it will be fixed in the next Rebol View 
build.

Note: The bug is related only to MATRIX command. TRANSFORM/TRANSLATE/ROTATE/SCALE 
works ok.

Don't know if transform REBOL/AGG command can do this 

I not enoght skilled in AGG to answer ... I will try to use transform 
instead of matrix

Transform does rotation, scale and translation in one command :
TRANSFORM       angle [decimal!]
                center [pair!]
                scale-x [decimal!]
                scale-y [decimal!]
                translation [pair!]

yes, that's why the new DRAW dialect has PUSH [ ] command. It 'stores' 
the current transformation matrix into internal matrix stack. You 
can apply other transformations in the PUSH block or even reset the 
current matrix but after 'leaving' the PUSH command block you have 
active back the 'stored' matrix. Very handy for nested transformations.

So there is no more POP command ?

not afaik, but i think you could use the clip command.

he can create e.g. gradient-svg command ...

I am not talking about adaptation in rebol level code, but directly 
in rebol AGG layer = C code - that should not be slow, no? Cyphre 
would then expose it via e.g. gradient-svg new command ...

Command allows you to use images and the effect pipeline without 
view functionality, afaik.

I don't think so. You have to wait for the new Command SDK or write 
to RT's feedback.

A little survey for DRAW programmers here in this world::

We are thinking about a possible  separation of the gradient functionality 
from FILL-PEN command as this command is going to have too much argument 
combinations. What do  you think about this? Any better ideas? Or 
are you satisified with only two pens(for fill and for stroke)  in 
DRAW?

The following code demonstrates this. Comment / uncomment the draw 
effect line to see the difference a simple draw command makes.

count: 100

do-test: func [label info /local img-size start end] [
	img-size: to-pair label/text
	img: to image! layout [

  origin 0 box img-size blue reform ["Testing" img-size ". . ."] font 
  [size: 24]
	]
	view/new/options center-face layout [
		origin 0 i: image img img/size
		;effect [draw [circle 100x100 100]]
	] [no-title no-border]
	;	test loop
	start: now/time/precise
	loop count [show i]
	end: now/time/precise
	;	display result
	info/text: form to-integer count / (to-decimal end - start)
	show info
	unview
]

view layout [
	title "Resolutions"
	across la: label 100 "800x600" ia: info 100 center
	return lb: label 100 "1024x768" ib: info 100 center
	return lc: label 100 "1280x1024" ic: info 100 center
	return btn "Run" [do-test la ia do-test lb ib do-test lc ic]
]

Cyphre: if your question is "should we create a FILL-PEN-PERCENT 
command to not overload FILL-PEN with percent values?" I say YES. 
(but the name is here as an example)

But overwhise I don't really understand what you mean.

It'd be nice to have  VIEWPORT command for creating virtual surfaces 
inside AGG/Draw - especially to use it to constrain text for applications 
such as scrolling and spreadsheets..

Heh - i never saw the clip command before :)  Shame on me :)

Ok, so here it is:

-fixed image keying bug (swapped color components in keying tuple!)
-line width is now now changing according to scale

-fixed rendering of transformed images(now uses aplha premultiplied 
data)

-fixed LINE-PATTERN bug (multiple line patterns in DRAW block should 
work properly now)

-fixed MATRIX bug(wrong matrix calcualtion was corrected in this 
case)

-fixed SKEW command inconsistency (now it takes degrees as arguments 
instead of radians)

-fixed FILL-PEN bug when filling images (now it doesn't render images 
upside down)

-fixed ANTI-ALIAS cmd(now it is possible to switch this mode within 
one DRAW block)

-removed POP command (was obsolete, PUSH with block! arg is used 
instead)
-fixed fill/outline pixel aligning problem
-fixed visual bug when rendering circle with line-width > 1
-fixed text character encoding problem
-improved gradients: added REFLECT and REPEAT modes, example:
view layout [
	origin 0
	box 400x460 effect [
		draw [
			pen none
			fill-pen linear 10x10 0 190 0 1 1 black red green blue black
			box 10x10 390x90

   fill-pen linear 10x160 0 190 0 1 1 black red green blue black repeat
			box 10x100 390x180

   fill-pen linear 10x310 0 190 0 1 1 black red green blue black reflect
			box 10x190 390x270
			fill-pen radial 80x350 0 20 0 1 1 black red green blue black
			circle 80x350 70

   fill-pen radial 190x350 0 20 0 1 1 black red green blue black repeat
			circle 190x350 70

   fill-pen radial 320x350 0 20 0 1 1 black red green blue black reflect
			circle 320x350 70
		]
	]
]

ReViewver: the FIT and ASPECT effect block command are using the 
old(non Agg based) scaling algorithm. You can use the bilinear filter 
mode only in the DRAW block.

just labelling the y-axis is a problem because of the way AGG does 
the rotate vs PostScript rotate command

Graham, AGG rotation: that's just an effect of the way AGG does its 
transformations which apply to the whole image. The rotate command 
is just a shortcut method of specifying just the rotation angle of 
a transformation.

The ANTI-ALIAS command doesn't seem to have any effect on TEXT rendering. 
Odd, the docs says otherwise : "The ANTI-ALIAS command currently 
affects the entire DRAW effect; the last value you set it to is what 
will be used for all draw commands in the block".

Dockimbel: You have to always specify the TEXT rendering mode. Maybe 
the text mode could be set by separate command in later versions? 
The ANTI-ALIAS command works for all vectorial shapes and doesn't 
affect TEXT in other than vectorial mode. (the docs needs to be fixed 
in this case)

running DRAW without Xserver. This is quite possible but it all depends 
on Carl's decission in which product he want to have it. AFAIK the 
DRAW native command is in Rebol/Command(which can be run without 
Xserver) at the moment.

In the new DRAW/AGG dialect, it seems that the 'reset-matrix command 
just don't work with 'matrix or 'translate. I've tried the examples 
from TRANSLATE command found in the online DRAW documentation, the 
2nd and 3rd examples are supposed to reset the translation, it just 
don't work (unless I've missed something obvious). Tested with View 
1.3.2.3.1 and View 2.7.5.3.1. Examples URL: http://www.rebol.com/docs/draw-ref.html#section-3.33

use PUSH command instead

From Cyphre:


Yes, the DRAW dialect  has FILL-RULE keyword which should work the 
same as described in the svg documentation. And yes, we need to improve 
the documentation and maybe even change the arc syntax. Any feedback 
on this is welcome.


BTW the ARC shape command should work according the http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG/paths.html#PathDataEllipticalArcCommands

Yes, the ARC shape command is a bit confusing....we need to improve 
the syntax or make at least clear docs on it.

I would like our agg command structure to concentrate upon compatibility 
with SVG, if possible and if it would be benefical to us. E.g. I 
remember we could not produce compatible gradients ...

no for clipping on retangular regions.. there is a command for that 
already and ive missed it havent I? ;)

The chapter also includes a really enthusiastic introduction to IOS 
and details of the data encryption features in Rebol/Command.

At last, the electronic pre-release of Chapter 6 of the translation 
of Olivier Auverlot's "Rebol - Guide du Programmer" (http://www.rebol.com/article/0324.html) 
is now available atÊ(Êhttp://www.lulu.com/content/4426599Ê) for EUR 
2.99.

This chapter starts with a short overview of how to configure 
and manage Rebol/View desktops to provide a "virtual office". It 
moves quickly into serious programming topics in a Unix environment 
covering console data display, handling keystrokes, command line 
arguments, file access rights, shell access, pipes, sockets, Unix 
signals and dynamic library calls. A thorough introduction to RebDB 
rounds out the chapter.

args.r  released on rebol.org...  pretty powerfull command-line argument 
management. 

*dialect driven
*typed arguments.  
*optional arg support (with default values)
*different flag modes
*automatic command-line error reporting
*and much more...


the idea is not to provide a rebol interface to the cli, but provide 
a cli interface to rebol.   so for example, to escape chars, we use 
"\"  not "^" .

the systems builds a parse rule out of your command-line spec and 
runs it against the  supplied string.


there is a preliminary demo which shows how to use it... full docs 
expected this week-end.  (they are drafted, but need to be revised 
and organised properly).

I'd like to add more command line switches but need Max to fix args.r 
!

The R3 ODBC Extension allows easy access to databases and data sources 
supporting ODBC. 


The extension supports SQL statements SELECT and INSERT, UPDATE and 
DELETE as well as catalog functions for tables, columns and types. 
It supports statement parameters and is Unicode aware. It supports 
direct and prepared execution of statements.


If you're used to the commercial REBOL/Command (or the nowadays freely 
available REBOL/View) ODBC database access methods, you should have 
no problems using the ODBC API presented here. There's next to no 
differences in functionality, it differs mostly in that the extension 
isn't used with ports, but with "ordinary" functions OPEN-DB, OPEN-SQL, 
DO-SQL, CLOSE-SQL and CLOSE-DB. This may change when it's possible 
to provide the extension as an asynchronous R3 device, since the 
ODBC functions may be blocking.  


For now, the API is implemented as an embedded host-kit extension 
(it should easily be possible to provide it as an external dll) and 
is available for the Windows platform. So far it has been tested 
with MySQL, PostgreSQL and Intersystems Caché as well as the Microsoft 
Text Driver. Of course it's supposed to work with any ODBC data source.

am I right that autoupdate.r requires rebol/command?

Sorry, that was for the Command/SDK with a normal price of  $448 
according their web site

I don't think command/sdk offers much on the linux platform as there's 
no odbc

So, based on the above, maybe I can get the linux sdk for $49 if 
I already have command/sdk on windows?

when trying to do it manually, I get the compression error. if I 
try it with scripting, I just get "invalid command" in the reshacker 
log. is it illegal to provide full path to the executable?

works now if you change the issues to something other than a preprocessor 
command. I guess it does not entirely ignore it.

is there no easy way to include a directory of files with the preprocessor? 
the #include-files command seems to want a fixed block of file names.

Until now I have used the free Rebol/View version. But I am thinking 
about buying one of the professional Rebol versions. What I couldn't 
find out is whether Rebol/Command does include all the features of 
Rebol/SDK as well (encapsulation etc.). Anyone?

There is a seperate Command/SDK

If you get command/sdk, you get command as well.

If you run a program by double-clicking it from explorer, the working 
directory is set to the directory the program is in. Otherwise the 
working directory is either the directory you are in in the command 
prompt, that set in the shortcut properties, or the working directory 
in your program you are starting the program from. I use this to 
make file management tools that work on the current directory all 
of the time.

'call' command to call dar (Disk Archive), but I get this:

The command I'm calling works fine when entered at the console. Any 
idea what is causing this problem?

I had the windows command sdk.

He's still on line on the R3alpha world ... I'll pass on your details. 
 Which SDK ?  Command or just pro?

sorry sdk -  not command and not pro

not command/sdk

But with the xpacker you don't protect the code as with encap. Encap 
is using encryption. the packer just decompress the files to temp 
dir and runs a command. So while the program is runing, you can see 
the files.

From the new products page:

REBOL Technologies has changed its product catalog. REBOL/Command 
features are now part of REBOL/SDK. We've eliminated the standard 
REBOL/SDK. We also will be lowering our pricing for these products 
accordingly. 


How does this affect current sdk owners? Can we download command 
sdk and use with our key?

well, the corrollary of that is .. do existing sdk/command users 
get a refund ...

I've already purchased View/Pro, SDK linux and 2 x SDK/command windows

Sorry, I repeat... I upgraded to sdk 2.7.7 for $50. I am a very old 
Command and SDK legally licensed user. I am a macosx and windows 
user. My original license was for windows. According to a mail from 
Cindy, when upgrading to 2.7.7 existing license file would work for 
all platforms. I am willing to support rebol development and this 
why I choose to upgrade even if I do not really have the use for 
such a minor update. But, it looks that current sdk 2.7.7 release 
is not really bullet proof: under macosx, rebcmd et rebpro complain 
they could not find a valid license key file, while encap binaries 
seem to recognize my license key. Under windows XP, my license seem 
to be recognized, but rebcmd returns the following error: 'REBOL 
Internal Error: Boot error: 316' Anyone enconutering such problems? 
Thanks in advance.

The 2.7.7 release wasn't originally going to be an SDK update, but 
we realized the changes were quite minor, so did it anyway. "A mistake." 
The 2.7.8 release will be correct for the SDK/Command etc.

I have command sdk license for Windows and also a separate sdk license 
for linux.  So, there is no point in upgrading both ??

So, do we have to wait for 2.7.8 SDK to upgrade ? What about the 
upgrade command inside Rebol? When R3 is finished, do we have to 
buy a new sdk for R3?

I think that I've had this issue even in xp when I was starting the 
application using "capture output" of my text editor or something 
like that. 

so that the window app hangs while its trying to connect to the console 
ports.


IIRC you can setup a CALL command in REBOL which ends up doing the 
same thing though I don't remember how.

I discovered what is causing my program to hang in windows 7....something 
to do with a "Call/output" command i'm using:

there is no rebol/command version for mac?

https://secure28.inmotionhosting.com/~rebolc5/cgi-bin/order.cgi?cmd=buy&prod=command

Is there an easy way to read a parameter from the command line?  
I want to display the build history if a person types something like: 
 my.exe -version
thanks in advance

I have a problem with SDK on Windows. when I start rebcmd.exe it 
crashes immediately everytime, just after the REBOL/Command window 
appears.

And also when I encap a simple script using encmd.exe, the output 
file also crashes with REBOL Internal Error: Boot error: 316


Am I doing something wrong? I used drag & drop, interactive etc. 
modes.

That's how imo SSL support should be implemented - not as an hardwired 
C implementation, but using Rebol crypto facilities, and being part 
of Core, not Command ...

and its fully scriptable  :-)  antidote is actually used BY the GUI 
instead of coding many of the things internally... for example, all 
hotkeys are actually within an external file with character and command 
scripts which applied when that key is pressend and no focus is detected.

but wouldn't the bind command and any internal rebol binding, be 
in fact where the JIT calls are made?  aren't these explicit points 
in time where a JIT could be applied?

needs Rebol/Command

the thing that maybe isn't clear when you first hear about it is 
how it can make use of the context of what you're browsing or what 
you've selected, in what you can write on the command line

Pekr: The Flex SDK is free open source software. It's a command line 
compiler with a few command line tools. The FlexBuilder IDE is a 
pay for extension to Ecilpse.

Successfully sent mail from a rebol command prompt, but it doesn't 
work in Cheyenne, despite identical set-net config. Odd.

There was several accounts not activated, I've switched them all 
on. I guess that the activation email didn't make it (using an old 
extension of SEND mezz command). It's time to upgrade CC to the new 
builtin email support API and MTA...