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I'm sorry, but that last post should be in the Chat group.

Terry -- please use Ann-reply to chat about announcements -- as per 
the group description
 -- Sunanda.... 
My bad, i thought I had.. one of the problems with Altme.

Just a comment regarding Gregg's last announcement... your point 
is much clearer, thank you... however, I tend to disagree.. and here's 
why.. 

Since the beginning of February, 94 different Rebols (which some 
call Rebolers) have visited this world.  I would say that the 80/20 
rule would be fairly accurate, where 80% of the posts are made by 
20% of the community.  I'm not exactly sure what the exact percentages 
would be, but I would say that well over half rarely, if ever, say 
a word.   I would like to hear from a few more of these folks .. 
about anything.. who are they?.. what do they do?  And if some Rebol 
chat comes from that.. all the better.  I'd like to see an eagerness 
to participate at whatever level.   


People are drawn here because of a common  interest.. Rebol.  But 
what keeps them coming back?  Is it the pure Rebol conversations? 
 I don't think so.  If that were the case, then where is the Rebol-view 
world?  That used to be the main hang out? I for one, stopped going 
there because it became dry, old, boring and censored.  I preferred 
this world because it DIDN'T have the rules.. the conversations were 
much more free and engaging.. both Rebol and non-Rebol.   I've found 
the business / marketing discussions particularily interesting.  
The 'debates' on evolution vs. creation have been stimulating TO 
ME... maybe not to you.


Rebol needs all the community it can get.  I would make few f any 
'rules', (other than the obvious).  If you want pure Rebol, then 
fire-up Rebol-view and have at it.. But if "this is not our world", 
then what the hell am I doing here?


My online community is where I touch base to see whether I'm on the 
right track, where I get support and advice, and where I learn and 
teach. In the eyes of its many users, online communication is a powerful 
medium for like-minded individuals to form virtual communities that 
provide mutual support, advice and identity.

Communications networks 
offer the prospect of greater opportunities for seeking advice, challenging 
orthodoxy, meeting new minds and constructing one's own sense of 
self. Entirely new notions of social action, based not upon proximity 
and shared physical experience but rather on remote networks of common 
perceptions, may begin to emerge and challenge existing social structures 
(Loader, 1998).

there aren't many viable alternatives for rebol + misc chat

Or, we can move off topic chat to rebol-world, and use this world 
just for tech support

Any conversation in the world in my opinion is a good thing.  It 
keeps me coming back knowing that the regulars are around throughout 
the day.  Sometimes there is a gem, sometimes off topic chat.  But 
I know someone is here.  If I have a question, I know people will 
see it if placed in the proper group.

Oh boy. 


First, I *have* been contacted to ask if I could take certain actions, 
but not by RT. RT made me a world master here, which *I* consider 
to be form of moderator (with the main task being to assign and maintain 
accounts), though there is not a definite job description sitting 
on my desk. Now, I am also a regular user in this world, and there 
are definitely conflicts for me WRT those positions.


As I've said before, I enjoy a good chat as much as anyone, and I 
*don't* want to censor people here, but that may be necessary at 
some point, wouldn't you agree? If someone were quite obviously, 
in the opinion of 99.9% of the people here, abusive, rude, offensive, 
etc. should they be allowed to run rampant and ruin this world for 
everyone else? I don't think so; maybe you do.


When I joined the REBOL community, one of the main attractions was 
the high level of mutual respect, the generosity towards newcomers, 
and the complete *lack* of the venom you sometimes see unleashed 
in other language communities. *That* is what kept *me* coming back. 
The more argumentative discussions and personal jibes people see, 
the less likely they are to post, IME, because they don't want to 
be attacked themselves and if that's the tone they often see, it's 
what they will expect. 


When it comes to content, as a world master and a user *I* think 
that *most* channels here *should* be REBOL related. The world is 
called "REBOL", and I think RT created and sponsors it for the REBOL 
community. That's my view; that's how I view the ML as well. There 
are probably at least 20-25 non-REBOL, non-Technical groups here 
now; that's quite a lot IMO. There are times that I would really 
like to clean this world up a bit, and as a user I could, but as 
a world master I don't feel that I can because someone will complain 
that I'm trying to censor or control things here (so if I ever do 
that, get mad at me as a user, not as a world master :-).  


Petr, I'm sorry you feel that I'm trying to limit free speech here, 
or to control anyone's behavior; I made some *suggestions* I thought 
were appropriate. I spent a *lot* of time writing and editing my 
posts in the hope that they weren't too strong, but still got my 
view across. If you think that you should be able to use this world 
for anything you want, personally, I disagree; it's RTs world and 
we are guests in their house. If there is something specific in my 
posts that offended you, please let me know what it was.


As a user, I haven't been around much lately. Mostly my schedule 
is the cause, but maybe it's also because the technical value of 
the world has been diluted (IMO) by noise, so I'm just not as "driven" 
to come here and make time to participate. I'm normally on dial-up, 
so that affects download time, yes. Right now, I'm on a fast connection 
but the noise is still a problem because I have to visit all the 
groups that come up red to see what's new, and if I only have a small 
amount of time to spend, it may all get eaten up just skimming what 
others posted. Also, the more noise there is, and the more we get 
in the habit of talking about non-technical stuff here (again, this 
is all *my* opinion), the more chance there is for it to leak out 
into other groups, and it does. 


The camaraderie comes from the people; the technical value comes 
from the experts  who often focus on that aspect and may stop coming 
if there's too much noise here. When that happens, the value of the 
world is diminished. 


Well, my time is long gone for writing here, but I hope that helps 
clarify my position.

Oddly enough, <c red>t</c><c orange>es</c><c yellow>t</c> works fine. 
I'll chase this up and chat privately to avoid further channel pollution.

Synapse chat allows you do edit your posts :)

I had some transient wierdness in the Blog Chat group recently......I 
can only scroll back  as far as Thu to my message starting <MVS/TSO? 
CICS? >

what goup should we chat ?

whatever - Chat for e.g. - RAMBO is bug reporting related group ...

(Lets move to Chat)

this is from the blog-chat: 

I liked Ladislavs function and just extended it a little bit: maybe 
bind would be nice like that - one can bind only the words one wants 
to and also only the types one likes, unless using plain, then all 
words of the same spelling get bound

old-bind: :bind

bind: func append copy third :bind [
	/only only-words [block! any-word!]
    /plain
    /local pos rule item
][
	if copy [words: copy words]
		
	either only [
		if any-word? only-words [only-words: reduce [only-words]]
    	if any-word? known-word [known-word: bind? known-word]

     if plain [forall only-words [change only-words to word! only-words/1]]

		parse words rule: [
			any [
				pos:
				set item any-word! (
					if any [
                	    all [plain find only-words to word! item]
                	    find only-words item
                	][
						item: old-bind :item known-word
						change pos :item
					]
				) | into rule | skip
			]
		]	
	][
		old-bind words known-word
	]	
]

f: g: h: i: 1
bl: ['f g h i]
c: context [f: 2 g: 3 h: 'hello]

bind/only bl c [f 'h]
get-values: [
	get to-word first bl
	get to-word second bl
	get to-word third bl
	get to-word fourth bl
]
probe reduce get-values

bind/only/plain bl c [f 'h]
probe reduce get-values

bind bl 'system
probe reduce get-values

bind/only bl c 'g
probe reduce get-values

how about a chat-server? i guess it uses low power and could be on 
24/7?

Jaime, why not treat the marketing differently.  Instead of marketing 
as a wireless router, market as a wireless chat server, or mp3 server 
with router facilities ?

>> foreach f read %synapse-chat/ [ ?? f either dir? f [ print [ "directory: 
" f ]][print ["file: " f] ]]
f: %April/
file:  April/
f: %Compkarori/
file:  Compkarori/

yes. "dir? %synapse-chat/April/" would work too.

foreach f read dir: %synapse-chat/ [ ?? f either dir? dir/:f [ print 
[ "directory: " f ]][print ["file: " f] ]]

it's my 'Liquid Rebol' joke; it belongs in chat.  New people always 
post in the wrong threads.  Better "I'm new" than "They're new" or 
"We're new"
	joke = new Rebol(2)  // javascript

 funnier: make classInstance! RebolObject [prototype! classObject! 
 object! ]

and wiki rendering like to ... it's closer from IRC or chat or web 
php/forum it include Smyleys ;)

This bugs are known. I can't find when, but i'm pretty sure they 
were submit in "Carl only" or "Blog chat" group.

Actually what I posted in Chat applies directly to MySQL, if anyone 
happens to know.

:-) Cool. Must have been an inspiring chat.

we are probably becoming OT here .... maybe move to chat or REBOL3?

Debian;  The best development model, (ala REBOL).  Deliver when ready 
and ignore the peanut gallery shouting "it's late!"  ;)  


Off-topic; Sadly, my second favourite wiki-forum-chat-combo-thingy, 
TikiWiki, is moving toward the ever useless every 6 months release 
cycle.  Not a valid model for a volunteer workforce, imho.

I run R3-alpha A33 Linux/Fedora 2.6.18 (http://www.rebol.com/r3/downloads/r30-core-a33-p421.gz) 
in a Kubuntu 8.10 CD-Live ( I think it's based on Debian ) and it 
seems to work ( I can chat )

ManuM, can you do something similar for a file manager window? That 
would solve a bug in R3 Chat. Thanks.

Carl should be notified on R3 chat about that.

This is internal list but maybe you can ask Carl about more information. 
(try it in Blog chat channel?)

(moving to chat...)

Regerding R2 releases: Sorry, I'm currently somehow 'out of the loop'. 
I don't know what is the plan, how are the releases organized etc. 
I even don't know if any DRAW improvements are wanted right now. 
But I'll try ask Carl on R3 chat.

Well, Cyphre was talking about R2, and Carl is talking about R3 apparently. 
But anyway - will change incorporate merge of command and DELECT, 
so that it can be generally used by extensions, as planned? (there 
are still some wishes for improvements to extensions in CureCode 
or R3 Chat I think)

I know it's now for human readed, but for example this chat is public 
and if someone would click on the link, now it looks much more better. 
Don't forget, that Rebol should be human friendly:)

nevertheless now I understand why I sometimes get double posts with 
some chat boards :-)

From Dario Giacomelli
Registered on the R3 chat as Dario

Terry -- please use Ann-reply to chat about announcements -- as per 
the group description

NO CHAT HERE / use ann-reply group please

Just announcing that I am alive and well and just flat out busy, 
which has reduced my chat time, but the good thing is I am doing 
more effective business development AND technical development in 
REBOL.  Didn't want anyone to think I was gone or hibernating.  Since 
I work in specific, proprietary vertical markets, my stuff generally 
goes where the sun don't shine...;-)

Offline reader for Altme Chat Group : http://membres.lycos.fr/didec/rebol/altme-chat-reader.r
As some seems to search for it.

It can be used to read an entire chat group or to export its content 
in html. There is a command line syntax for automatic export (ie. 
with batch/cron job).

The formation of the International REBOL User Association...Open 
Invitation

26th of May, 2007, 20:00 UTC.  

First Meeting is about to be called to order in the new IRUA forum.

This forum is for formal IRUA messaging only.  IRUA Chat has also 
been created for

informal discussions.  The name is going to change.  Please see the 
agenda and motions
linked below.

Details at http://peoplecards.ca/rebol/formation.html

I'm pleased to announce the REBOL user group now has a name.

World meet   user.r


Details in IRUA and IRUA Chat.  Those forums will be retired and 
renamed to  user.r  shortly.

(check private chat)

The preview of translation of the final chapter of Olivier Auverlot's 
Rebol - Guide du Programmeur is now available atÊhttp://www.lulu.com/content/4564589


 This final chapter consists of a number of workshops that bring together 
 much that has been covered in the book. These case studies focus 
 on the foundations to build a video game, on developing a chat program, 
 on writing a MySQL administration console, and finally on creating 
 a reblet for Rebol/IOS.


  There is still a little work left before the book can be published. 
  I hope that it won't take too long. Once the full book is published, 
  the individual preview chapters will be withdrawn from Lulu.com.


  One of the things still to be done is toÊangliciseÊthe sample scripts 
  which will then be made available for downloading.

uhm .... I would not put it that way ... still REBOL related and 
hence appreciated ... we should chat in ann-reply probably ...

R2-Forward has been released! Now you don't necessarily have to wait 
for R3 to get finished - use the new functions in R2 now :)

Released to DevBase (aka R3 chat) in Community/Libraries/R2-Forward 
(837). Tested in 2.6.2, 2.7.5 and 2.7.6. Take a look!

Stats: 72 words exported, 49999 chars, 41522 LM, 29730 LMF, 8379 
LMFC.


Obviously, there are whole categories of stuff that won't be backported; 
the notes say what is supported. You'd be surprised what I *have* 
managed to backport though - even some datatypes are spoofed :)


Discussions in R3 chat #837, or the Core group here. More testing 
is welcome - I'd like to push my tested platforms back as far as 
2.5.0 if I can. My todo list for R2-Forward is pretty extensive...

>> chat
>> 837
>> get *

Announcements only - use Ann-reply to chat [web-public]

If you need to reach me -- the fastest method is to send me a message 
on R3 Chat.

BTW, #51 is rebol.org on R3 chat.

bye, got to go get some zzzzzz  thanks for the chat  :-)

In this example I can't get vertical positioning working 

display "" [  
    at 0x150
    

    text-list 30x15 #YH data [ "Joe" "Adam" "Bill" "Artur" "Phil" "Simone" 
    ] [ show-text chattofld pick face/data first face/picked ]

        chatarea: area 150x10 #YWH "Intra office chat appears here" slider 
        5x10 #YXH data [arrows]
 
    at 32x160
    chattofld: field 15 #Y chatfld: field 140 #YW [ 

            show-text chatarea rejoin [ chatarea/text newline chattofld/text 
            ": " chatfld/text] 
            show-text chatfld "" rebfocus chatfld
    ]

    ] do-events

for example an IRC client like Xchat will use tab pannel for every 
window (dialogue private , chat rooms, servers notices )

Basically, I need a way to do client to client communications with 
Uniserve, much like say a chat server.

In your Uniserve service, build a list of ports with every client 
connecting (on-new-client event). When required, walk through the 
list of ports and broadcast whatever you want to the selected ones 
(or everyone). See this Chat application server-side source as an 
example of how to achieve that (it's not an Uniserve service, but 
it's very close anyway) : http://cheyenne-server.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/Cheyenne/www/ws-apps/chat.r


The resulting chat application is here : http://demo.cheyenne-server.org:8080/chat.html

Ok. Now I must focus OSX/View. Chat later.

I opened atrial account, so up to 5 users can join us using Voip/chat/video 
there

I think it's too short to use it. It seems to need practice.
Chat window is ridiculous.

It's there a whay to see the conference from internet ? will there 
be a live chat ? i would REALLY like that.

Brock, as a company that is working very hard to make everything 
compatible between all the browser I can tell you that what it comes 
down to is that there are rules, but each browser company (or group) 
interprets the rules slightly differently.


The simplest example of goes wrong the most are the "assumptions." 
 EI for example will except <center> to mean center the page, and 
center pretty much everything until you turn </center> off.  


But Firefox follows the letter of the rules, and expects each object, 
like a table, to have its own <center> tags.


This is a simple visual example, it gets worse when JavaScript enters 
the picture.  Safari for example DEMANDS everything ending in a ";" 
or it simply ignores stuff.

They are almost always easy fixes, but time consuming.


Maarten, shame that Breeze will not work.  I looked at Breeze and 
voted not to use it to do a Rebol lesson.  Looked great on their 
page, but I read a lot of similar comments elsewhere on the web that 
it simply failed for too many people.  I was hoping that someone 
smart in this group would know what we could use both to solve our 
DevCon needs and the Rebol Newbie Lesson needs.


We need a way to broad cast at least one video signal, and allow 
moderated chat in the same environment for people all over the world. 
 This should be easier.  I have an Idea that might work, but will 
require some research.  I might just do this in Qtask.  Then anyone 
can log in from anywhere, talk in a group, have sub topics.  All 
we have to add is video streaming (which is actually pretty easy 
for us).  The trick is setup up the incoming real time stream, which 
I was not planning to do for a while.

I read where I left off yesterday, very interesting chat, BrianH, 
thanks for info on remove-each

It's the script from Core chat here

The data are at this moment from Yahoo maps... which story do you 
want? It should be paraglide contest visiualisation.. people jump 
from a hill with GPS and have to fly thru defined points. There is 
no pure rebol version.. I use rebol to parse the GPS data and convert 
them to precompiled SWF data.. also I use Rebol to compile the main 
file. Parts of the Rebol code is in google-maps chat as I was discovering 
the system from Rebol as well. And when you talk about hiding... 
as I'm using some non standard ways how to compile loops in my dialect, 
the best SWF decompiler I now is not able to decompile it correctly:)

I do networking stuff. For example here is my experimental IRC like 
chat http://box.lebeda.ws/~hmm/chat.html

What's the purpose? General chat about HTML5, as a new wave of de-facto 
standard for app development, or REBOL-2-HTML5 compiler? :-)

Moving this convo to Chit Chat....

I'm recommenting on Chat (not web)

we should watch Rentrak in Portland, OR and deviantArt.com  as they 
have people open to languages - and it is my impression there is 
much more Ruby and Python happening in Los Angeles ... of course 
 Io lang will be fine because they have a good core community who 
chat daily (IRC) and becasue Steve ignores my suggestions ;-)

Terry;  I'm not sure of future plans, but no.  user.r was gifted 
the space and invites to members will remain at zero cost (until 
I'm told otherwise - again I'm not in on their business planning. 
The offer from Qtask was a gift).  So it's more like membership with 
user.r on Qtask is like getting a $75 a month bonus.   As a matter 
of fact, I want to move the current user.r Chat PITL project to Qtask 
sometime this weekend.  You can't beat Qtask for project management. 
  And being the friendly fence sitter...you can't really beat kommonwealth 
for the 'fun social side' that user.r should also portrait.  Both 
sites are suffering neglect right now, but that will change.

Intel quietly pulled out of support for the XO One Laptop Per Child 
program.  Hmm.  More in chat.

Need to go to sleep, thanks for the nice chat Brian.

Guys, nice chat but can we move to group performance or something 
like this? I like TechNews because it's just about that and no noise...

http://mail.google.com/videochat

Google Chat now supports video chat.

Adaptive A.I. Inc. launches commercial AGI-based virtual agent for 
call centers

Playa del Rey, California
January 12, 2009


Adaptive A.I. Inc. (a2i2) today released its first commercial product 
based on its artificial general intelligence (AGI) technology under 
development since 2001. It is a virtual call center operator that 
promises to propel speech-based interactive voice response (IVR) 
systems to much higher levels of performance.


Known as the SmartAction™ IVR System, it being sold and supported 
by a2i2’s recently formed commercial subsidiary, the Smart Action 
Company LLC.


The system is based on a2i2’s LiveAGI™ engine. Its integrated language 
processing, reasoning, memory, and knowledge-base capabilities allow 
it to hold smart, productive conversations. The LiveAGI brain manages 
conversation flow, meta-cognitive state (such as mood, degree of 
certainty and surprise), and determines when clarification or live-agent 
assistance is needed. Its built-in intelligence also allows the system 
to be taught new skills and knowledge, instead of these having to 
be custom programmed. Existing skills include email, as well as web 
and database interaction.


To achieve beyond state-of-the-art voice interaction, top of the 
line speech recognition technology is tightly integrated with the 
AGI brain to provide bi-directional benefits: The speech engine is 
dynamically tuned to current conversation context, while the cognitive 
engine analyzes multiple speech hypotheses for the most likely meaning 
and resolves ambiguities.


These innovations combine to provide solutions that significantly 
reduce the number of routine – and frequently boring and poorly handled 
-- calls taken by human agents while improving customer service levels. 
In addition to providing expected IVR capabilities such as 24/7 availability, 
consistent service quality, and the capacity to handle surges in 
call traffic, the SmartAction IVR System offers personalized responses 
by remembering the caller’s preferences, previous calls and other 
relevant data. Applied over multiple calls, callers don’t have to 
answer the same questions every time they call. If a call is interrupted, 
the system can call the customer back and pick up the conversation 
where it left off.


The company offers the SmartAction IVR System both as a hosted service 
and an in-house hardware-software turnkey solution. A web-based chat 
version is also available.


The ultimate purpose of a2i2’s LiveAGI Brain is to enable a major 
transformation of human-computer interfaces for a broad range of 
applications, such as websites, search engines, console and online 
games, virtual worlds, enterprise software, and consumer products. 
The company is currently researching and developing these applications, 
and under certain conditions will consider creating commercial versions 
in the near term.

About Adaptive AI, Inc.


Adaptive A.I. Inc. was founded in 2001 with the mission of researching, 
developing and commercializing far-reaching inventions in artificial 
general intelligence. Its founder, Peter Voss, has an accomplished 
career as an entrepreneur, inventor, engineer and scientist. His 
contributions to artificial general intelligence cover the fields 
of cognitive science, philosophy and theory of knowledge, psychology, 
intelligence and learning theory, and computer science.

www.adaptiveai.com    www.SmartAction.com

You'd think they would have a live demo chat ... Eliza style to test 
:)

ok, in chat...

What would be appropriate group to discuss project related stuff? 
I mean - aproach, management, attitude, etc. I think one of my project 
is heading the direction I am not pleased with (mainly attitude wise). 
I thought about Oportunity group, but don't want to steal the thunder 
for guys seeking real oportunities. And no group like Marketing, 
project management is here. Well, maybe chat is enough, as I am not 
sure, there is much interest in such topics? I think that Robert 
and Reichart could greatly contribute ...

I can imagine JS group used for real development efforts, JS framework 
chat, and as such :-)

ah... I looked at history of this chat and saw that there is debian 
package libsqlite3-dev ... I installed this and now I have libsqlite3.so 
.. it seems rebpro finds it without copying it to local directory 
now but it still gibes the same " Cannot open sqlite3_prepare_v2" 
error

I would move to some other group, like chat or something, to discuss 
the short message for OSNews.com then ...

Gotta run. Great chat guys!

cgi-servers can handle this to some extend, but cgi is cgi and not 
chat-speed.

:-) Not only do very few of us speak a second language, but many 
of us have trouble with English. I always smile when I chat with 
people from around the world who apologize for their poor English 
when, in reality, it's often more correct than what American's write. 
It doesn't have the natural flow of a native speaker, but more advanced 
words are used, and used correctly. 


Knowing, now, how hard it was just to learn a few phrases in other 
languages for my dialect session, I have even more respect for all 
of you who give *entire* presentations in a non-native language.

Because in some chat  somewhere Carl hinted it. IIRC  and  all.

Henrik, thanks, I will play with it.  I have this great Mac sitting 
on my desk, but I don't seem to use it enough.


NOTE: I'm still tied to my PC, and TRYING to get away....so far it 
seems I'm held to just a couple of issues....I have not had time 
to write up the "PC MAC LINUX" chart I want so I can figure out what 
it takes for me to move over.  But the first big one is still a thumbnailer. 
 I use ThumbPlus.  If they were on Mac and Linux, then I think the 
move would be a lot better.  I use this about 10 times every day. 
 We can move this chat if you want to engage me on the Mac issue.

But remember they'll only see the most recent 300 messages.

So the more popular a group is, the less the public can see of it.

Maybe we need a [web-archive] flag too for groups that will be published 
in full [reply in chat as this is off-topic for postscript)

Love the work Doc.  Everything else works great, in terms of serving 
web stuff.

peoplecards.ca has been running now live for two weeks.  But right 
now I have to go

play poker.  I'll chat with Will to see if we can't nail down the 
setting that is 
causing this...
Thanks much.  For lots and lots.

Max: I'll be online in AltME from 9 jun to 13 jun most of the time, 
so, in this range, I should be able to answer your questions in  
12 hours max delay. But I guess other people, like Will, could also 
answer most of your questions. If you have a lot of questions,m aybe 
it would be better to send them on a private channel, or Chat channel.

Perhaps this is more a chat related issue.  How would you feel if 
you went to a site  index.html  (explicitly .html)  and later found 
out it was actually an rsp  file with an .html filename.   Is that 
dirty-pool in web land?  I'm asking as Cheyenne .rsp makes it so 
easy to keep track of page hits and there are no <script> tags required 
and no redirects etc etc. I haven't turned it on in production peoplecards.ca 
as I think it's dirty-pool.  Looking for other's opinions.

Re acronyms.  Yep, must remember to mention the full text at least 
once per post cycle from now on.  


More on the namespace issue in user.r chat; but I'd like Cheyenne 
to be given a pride of place status for word usage, equivalent to 
what we'll be following with our rules for dealing with RT's word 
usage.  i.e they win, we deal with it.  Go Doc Go!


Re BBS for Cheyenne.  I'd almost like to extend RBBS out to something 
more grandious, and at the same time extend the tutorial Carl and 
Gregg and Volker and Tom built up, but along with the CGI (or instead 
of) document the RSP side of it.

Check out my natural language URLs if you get a chance.. in the Atom 
chat group... running on Cheyenne

BrianH: how do you want to bring something like Cheyenne (Uniserve) 
to R3, if such low level stuff as concurency is not designed yet? 
Wouldn't it (using tasks or not) influence its design? So do we wait 
for new R3 concurency model, or do we proceed with protocols, and 
rewrite later? (we can move to R3 chat instead)

I would only have one request for Carl to switch me to R3 (feel free 
to copy that to R3 chat) :

FYI, this chat group is rebroadcast here: http://devcon2007.on-arran.com/chat/

<perhpas other chat group>

I hope that they get the slides or static copies of the streams up 
soon. With my schedule, I have not been able to be awake and online 
during any of the presentations, even to chat here.

I have a REBOL version of CoreWars, made in 2008. Search for "corewars" 
in group "Chat". As I remember, the last part of the asm macros isn't 
made, and it's slow compared to a compiled version. I can send you 
the code, if you like.

If you want to play online ... then http://www.playok.com/is an 
interesting site.  I think it's mainly populated by eastern europeans 
though as they chat in russian and other languages from that region

I think we're going to start adding categories to the R3 project 
too - at the very least to separate out the chat and GUI bugs.

Except that the tickets are referenced by human-written numbers from 
inside and outside CureCode. Inside is no problem - just assme the 
samme project. Otside is a problem unless some kind of project reference 
is included. An example of an outside reference is the bug#794 style 
referencing in R3 chat, or the get line referencing elsewhere. It's 
easy to add a project reference to get line stuff, but harder for 
bug#794 referencing.