AltME groups: search

I think if there was one, Brian, this search would turn up some discussion:

http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/ml-search.r?q=sdl&mly-all=all
Still, some interesting stuff to read there.

switching the search to "opengl" brought this up near the top: http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/ml-display-thread.r?m=rmlDHPC

I find it curious that nothing exists in the library for this?  Every 
web page sending a GET request to a Rebol cgi script escapes this 
stuff.  Am i the only one that needs to deal with it?

and if you hit a website that is cgi based...you will be downloading 
from an infinite space.

http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/view-script.r?color=yes&script=webcrawler.r

Carl's also written a links checker -- this may be easy to adapt 
to what you want by limiting it to internal URLs 

http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/view-script.r?script=site-check.r

But as Graham says, if you run anything like this, be social. Many 
sites have banned things like HTTtrack (a website downloader) simply 
because they don't pace their requests.

Re. meta -- Peter, that follows the one dictionary definition* that 
seems to fit -- "used with the name of a discipline to designate 
a new but related discipline designed to deal critically with the 
original one" -- so metadata is new data used to describe (or deal 
critically with) data, right?
* http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?meta-

Seems a lot of people have problems getting rebol cgi working with 
IIS

Windows generally uses the registry for mapping to extension.
Try looking for something as follows under "regedit":


HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE    System       CurrentControlSet          Services

W3Svc               Parameters                 Script_Map Once there 
you

wantto EDIT --> New --> String Value to add a new extension association 
of

   ".cgi" Then MODIFY the new ".cgi" entry to associated it with the 
   rebol
executable, eg

   "C:\rebol\rebol.exe %s %s" Here "C:\rebol\" may be different on your
system and note that you must end with .exe.

Now restart the computer to get the new setting.

After that any script in a directory that the server sees as EXECUTABLE 
(eg,

the default "scripts" directory) which ends in *.cgi will be sent 
to the
rebol interpreter.

Best
YekSoon, keeping my fingers crossed.

http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/ml-display-thread.r?m=rmlNCDQ

very frustating, the script is invoking the rebpro.exe but doesn't 
release it nor deliver anything. I have tried nearly all combinations 
without any result. I thougt rebol is a perfect cgi engine, so I 
miss a - up to date - step by step instruction for all major webserver. 
the message board content indicate a need for this.

can you get any other cgi working eg. perl ?

Perhaps is not the same thing!. To execute a  cgi "exe" file, IIS 
don't need to know where is an interpreter like rebpro.exe or perl.exe

install rebol for IIS6: set this path ->  C:\Rebol\rebpro.exe "-cs" 
%s  in  application configuration panel. the extension can be .r 
or .cgi. it is not nessesary to set the extension additional in the 
webserver extension module. ps: double %s %s don't work.  thanks 
for the help to alberto and graham and ammon.

Try the unset function  - http://rebol.com/docs/words/wunset.html


Generally, I find the core user guide at http://rebol.com/docs/core23/rebolcore.html
, 

  the function dictionary at http://rebol.com/docs/dictionary.html
  ,

 and the mailiing list archive at http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/ml-index.r

very useful in finding the answers to such questions.

aha! it is complete, all 4 books... https://www.patternlanguage.com/cgi-bin/patternl/order.py

What I did was embed a version number .. a tuple in the exe.  Each 
time it first accesses the internet, it checks to see if there is 
an upgrade by querying a cgi script which returns the current version 
number.  If there is a higher version, it just offers to download 
it .. download location is always the same.

related? http://www.rebol.net/cgi-bin/rambo.r?id=3911&Response:

 Please note, that for it to work, you must replace the builtin icon 
 with one that is *exactly* the same. Otherwise, you get errors like 
 the above. -Gabriele

Pekr: "ML is not primary source of docs ..."  Absolutely true, and 
that's how it should be. But the ML can be a starting point for someone 
trying to research a topic or unearth an obscure snippet of information.....Which 
is why REBOL.org indexes the ML in lots of different ways: to make 
it easy to find stuff hidden in 43 000 messages.

If you haven't already, try playing with the topic index:
http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/ml-topic-index.r

It's work-in-progress so it's incomplete, but it can be the fastest 
way to some primary information.

And, while you are critiquing the Library, check out the Articles 
section.
http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/art-index.r
It's often overlooked, and frankly quite bare of content.

But it is a central place to publish articles. And it accepts them 
in most common REBOL mark-up languages (MakeDoc variants, eText. 
ASCII etc) so no additional learning curve needed.

We certainly need better ways of navigating through the various REBOL 
resources....All sorts of goodies exist that many newcomers may never 
find.

I'm not convinced though that consolidating sources is the only way 
to go. Making better use of the existing channels is another -- and 
one that anyone can get started on today.

For example, how many developers have put up a personal page at REBOL.org 
to introduce and/or promote their work?  Here's one:

http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/lmp-display.r?user-name=gchiu

I heard there is a combination of uniserv and vanilla, which is much 
faster. I guess vanilla runs on a daemon then. by cgi, it scans tons 
of files each time.

There's one in the library: http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/view-script.r?script=diff.r

The softinnov link to the LDAP solution above might be the wrong 
one ... I think you want to look at http://softinnov.org/rebol/ntlm.shtml
instead i.e. how does a rebol script authenticate in the microsoft 
nltm world ... which uses ActiveDirectory.   NTLM has been rebranded 
as Integrated Windows Authentication.   

These links may also be useful 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LDAP
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NTLM


My view is that without easy NTLM support we will be very handicapped 
using rebol scripts ....


If running a REBOL script as CGI under IIS, the user information 
is available in the script after IIS has taken care of the challenge. 
 Such support is not available (AFAIK) in Xitami and many other servers.

I need the files (6 years old, gone even in the waybackmachine.org) 
that I posted here: http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/ml-display-message.r?m=rmlBCNJ


Anybody has the-vault.zip and can mail it to me? That would be really 
appreciated!!!!

I get: ** Script Error: Cannot use add on block! value ** Where: 
do-cgi ** Near: blog-count: 1 + any [attempt [load blog-counter] 
0]

There are some soundex implementations for REBOL.

http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/view-script.r?script=soundex.r
And simetrics may be of interest:

http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/documentation.r?script=simetrics.r

Have you checked the Library? This might help:


http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/ml-display-message.r?m=rmlLHMQ

And the documentation -- which includes the results of running it 
against the REBOL.org CGI scripts is here:
http://www.rebol.org/documentation.r?script=application-sizer.r

Search utility for Altme: works across worlds and even if you are 
offline:

http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/documentation.r?script=skimp-my-altme.r
***
Use the package downloader to install:
  do http://www.rebol.org/library/public/repack.r

It's a  pun on the phrase "pimp my altme"

skimp is the indexing engine....the project is really a demonstrator 
for what skimp can do:

http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/view-script.r?script=skimp.r

You may remember that, before the Crash of March '07, REBOL.net was 
hosting a small, web-accessible archive of this world.....It showed 
the last 300 posts in all [web-public] groups.

Now, with Carl's permission, we're hosting it on REBOL.org. With 
some changes:
-- *all* the posts, not just the last 300

-- permanent URLs, so you can refer to classic posts by a fixed address
-- [one day soon: fully searchable]

http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/aga-groups-index.r?world=r3wp
***

Posts will lag a day or so behind for the first few weeks until we 
properly integrate it into REBOL.org.

That's all the tricks I know :-(

Other than to log on as a Guest then back on as yourself......But 
this world has no guest account.

The same trick may work if you have two personal accounts (say Maarten 
and Maarten2). Not sure if the Admins will issue a 2nd account even 
if you have a business case.
To see groups that may need resyncing:

http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/aga-groups-index.r?world=r3wp

A summary of a message I tried to post to the Mailing List, but the 
ML is a little wonky just now:

ALTME ARCHIVE SEARCH

You may remember that some months ago we added the archives of some 
Altme worlds to REBOL.org...
http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/aga-index.r
...and said that a search feature was coming soon.

It did not come soon enough but it is there now:
http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/aga-search.r

Enjoy using it, and please tell me the bugs you find.

<path to altme> -s "<worldname>" -p 54xx         ; where -p is a 
port number 5400, increment by 1 for each additional world.  Use 
Safeworlds World Check feature to find out what port your world is 
assigned to  http://www.altme.com/cgi-bin/lookup.cgi, but your world 
must be started for the World Check feature to return the port it 
has registered for the word being checking.

I can't either.  Two work-arounds, assuminng you want to capture 
and save the post:


1. cut'n'paste it from the HTML archive -- though this may lose you 
some formatting and/or indenting:

http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/aga-display-posts.r?post=r3wp157x10054

So what do I think AltME id doing wrong, or at least not making life 
to admins easy? There is no problem for me to to open ports on FW. 
This is not about opening ports only, but precisely speaking it is 
about setting DST-NAT to your target PC on internal network:


1) AltME records your internal IP adress when setting up your world. 
Don't even try to run it on different PC in your internal network. 
Even if you have all ports OK, this one thing will ruin all your 
efforts. Dunno if it adds to any kind of security, but in my eyes 
it is completly unnecessary obstacle. But maybe it is usefull when 
running altme servers fully on your local network, so that AltME 
"DNS" can direct your local clients to correct internal altme server. 
I can live easily with this one, but ...


2) Today I created new world. No matter how you try, it always registers 
AltME world on port 5400. There is no ability to set it differently.


3) Even if you start altme -s "my-world" -p 5401, it will not help 
you, and it still opens the world on port 5400 (at least that is 
what I saw with netstat -an), which is imo a bug


4) even if you change \servers\my-world\info, still no luck. When 
you go to http://www.altme.com/cgi-bin/lookup.cgiand you type-in 
your world name, you still can see, that AltME.com has registered 
5400 port, but not e.g. 5401


5) even if you run your altme -s "my-world" -p 5401, and even if 
you send your client to 5401 port by changing \worlds\my-world\config.txt, 
you still has no lack. It is apparent, that no matter how your client 
is instructed, it takes info from altme.com for granted, and overrides 
your local settings, which can be proven by 6)


6) Running two worlds - my-world on 5400 and my-world1 on 5401 (names 
obfuscated here), I found out, that Altme client does not care of 
Altme server name at all. That can be proven by typing my-world1 
and using account from my-world, you are succesfully logged in to 
my-world, instead of my-world1, as client obtains port 5400 instead 
of 5401


I have one and only one question - how can I change my world port 
number on altme.com, or in other worlds - how do I REGISTER world 
on different than 5400 port? :-)

Ingo <I'm not talking about these 3 lines for this exact problem, 
but about understanding enough to find the same info for another 
post>

Apologies for delay in replying.
***

The URL for the web archive has this parameter for the post in question:
    post=r3wp157x10054
And the two lines of code are:

   core-chat: reduce load/all %157.set
   text: last core-chat/10055

As you can see, the GROUP-ID is 157

and the POST-ID is 10054 -- but add 1 for the REBOL code as the file 
has a header line.
***
To get the GROUP-ID either RIGHT-CLICK the group name in ALTME.
Or find the group name in the Web archive:

  http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/aga-groups-index.r?world=r3wp
  
Does that demystify it?
As Reichart implies -- it's easy when you know how :-)

Brock wrote back in 10/07: 
<path to altme> -s 

<worldname>" -p 54xx         ; where -p is a port number 5400, increment 
by 1 for each additional world.  Use Safeworlds World Check feature 
to find out what port your world is assigned to  http://www.altme.com/cgi-bin/lookup.cgi, 
but your world must be started for the World Check feature to return 
the port it has registered for the word being checking."


When he says assigned does he mean by Safe worlds or the serving 
computer?


I tried his suggestion of the World check but it only tells you that 
its unavaiable nothing about the port...

So I thought I will put an end to "your world has expired" nonsense 
(which is technologically done in totally dumb way - your worlds 
are running, and yet they expire, and it totally contradicts what 
is communicated on the web - your world expires, if not used for 
more than 10 days) ....


... but unfortunatelly, following registration link does not work 
- http://www.altme.com/cgi-bin/orders/cart.r?cmd=buy&prod=100-1&

Extensive discussion on the merits and demerits of percent! here:

http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/ml-display-thread.r?m=rmlZXTJ

Is there a web-server in e? To use rebol thru cgi-style api?

Do you know how to do cgi-style-calls in c? where c and rebol communicate 
thru kind of bidirectional pipeline?

http://www.compkarori.com/cgi-local/whatismyip.r

How can I add a value to a read/custom post query?? ie.. 

xyz: "bob"


read/custom http:/theurl/x.cgi [POST "fname=bob&lname=jones&value= 
XYZ"]

where XYZ is the word??

(I found it in 'decode-cgi)

Yeah, I suppose that would work from a cgi environment.

I don't know if this will help: http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/ml-display-thread.r?m=rmlGBVQ

This may help http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/ml-display-message.r?m=rmlVVYS

Found via the ML Topic Index under format/numbers with commas

Try this thread, which includes a version of Gabriele's form-decimal 


http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/ml-display-thread.r?m=rmlLTLK

A semi-solution to this problem has been posted in RAMBO http://www.rebol.net/cgi-bin/rambo.r?id=4103&

Look at this ticket, "'select with a char! is not consistent":
http://www.rebol.net/cgi-bin/rambo.r?id=4046&

You can also study the UNIX command: file
http://unixhelp.ed.ac.uk/CGI/man-cgi?file
You can probably find source for this command somewhere.

Other explainations here:

http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/ml-topic-index.r?i=copy

Note also this bug!  http://www.rebol.net/cgi-bin/rambo.r?id=3189&

page: read http://www.compkarori.com/cgi-local/show-templates.r

http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/ml-display-thread.r?m=rmlPRTS
on how to set the environment variables in win32

thanks, I've found this http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/view-script.r?color=yes&script=base-convert.r
from Sunanda, I'll try it.

http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/ml-display-message.r?m=rmlCDDQ


this has some ideas. It's not easy unfortunately, but it can be done.

Carl has slain one of the nasty recycle bugs. Yay! http://www.rebol.net/cgi-bin/rambo.r?sort=1&limit=1&cmd=Search&id=3403&pattern=
Fixed in test build 1.2.103

http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/view-script.r?script=vt-emailer.r

mouse pointer handler was previously announced http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/ml-display-thread.r?m=rmlZNLK

Petr,  In a recent production application, here is what we recommended 
to the users in a web based environment and they liked enough to 
support us with our standards group:

1. tab boxes to cut down on many screens (or to give appearance of 
that) and saves on some trips to the server
2. flyout menus to allow more intuitive navigation

3. breadcrumbs to show they where they are now and how to get back 
to a higher plane

This was a pretty big step forward from the very plain html screens 
which they had been using before with more roundtrip activity.

We prototyped the system in HTML using REBOL CGI functions and got 
some pretty detailed flow before the project was launched.

Maybe your many screens solution should look at those things. I am 
assuming you are creating a View application.

AM/PM time: http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/ml-display-message.r?m=rmlTTVK

Izkata: If of any help, there is an emailer based on the Desktop 
one, but that handle attachments.

rebol.org : http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/view-script.r?script=vt-emailer.r

http://www.rebol.net/cgi-bin/rambo.r?id=3801&

For Always-on-top, nothing else than digging in Win32 API !!

For system tray, may be this example can help understanding its usage

http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/view-script.r?script=simple-system-tray.r

Sudoku: Two people in the last month alone:

http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/ml-topic-detail.r?l=s&topic={55E4B9405FC4B313E9233E7B20E17EC08B5AC37D}

There's a tiny explanation here:

http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/ml-display-thread.r?m=rmlZVTK

This is a problem I am having setting up a view on a linux virtual 
server. My cgi look like...

I'd suggest using Core for CGI rather than View

You need X, or use Rebol/Core if you use only CGI (and don't need 
View features like creating image on the fly)

I'd like to be able to use Core as a CGI processor for its image 
creation features......But I've never had a happy time testing it.

Ryan, re CGI: Maybe try  size-text: none   at the beginning of the 
script ?  That "might" work.

maybe something like this: http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/ml-display-message.r?m=rmlGKXQ

There was some discussion and a couple of scripts on the ML some 
time back about this: http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/ml-display-thread.r?m=rmlYDRQ

http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/search.r?find=systray&form=yes

Ah well. I found the reason for one big cosmetical issue with this 
2.7.6 ...  It has been documented with solution at: http://www.rebol.net/cgi-bin/rambo.r?id=4004&
    I would like to point out one detail missing from that RAMBO; 
font smooth type change requires system restart to be effective.

From the liitle time I've spent looking at the rebol.org system in 
respect of converting it to R3, the code changes required seem to 
be very small (I've only looked at the cgi and core code, no View 
or VID).


The biggest problem would seem to be the  need to change the source 
code to UTF-8. MUch of the rebol.org code is pretty old and was written 
without attention to string encoding. The newer code is mainly ISO-8859-1 
"aware" and seems to be ISO-8859-1encoded. Some of the Rebol.org 
code won't load in R3 because it contains invalid UTF-8 characters. 
Changing the source encoding is trivial but with that comes the need 
to change all the data stored in Rebol.org to UTF-8 for it to be 
processed properly.

I am curious how stable R3 is for CGI. I am trying to decide to use 
R2 or R3 for CGI. I would rather use R3.

Well, Carl says that rebol.com is using R3 now for cgi

ok, I have been diving into R2 a little more and I was curious why 
it is so hard to use the scripts on rebol.org. I am using new-blog.r 
for example and it appears that I am going to have to rewrite parts 
of it to get it to work properly. It is probably a configuration 
on the hosting provider I am using. Is there any documentation on 
how CGI processing works internally. I see all the tutorials and 
stuff and I understand that. I used that to get some of my scripts 
working. What does rebol -cs really mean? I am just trying to figure 
out how to determine where in the script it is failing. Any ideas?

rebol -cs launches rebol in cgi mode (-c) with the security sandbox 
disabled (-s)

I know this is a stupid question. how do I know where in a CGI it 
is failing?

CGI debugging is horrible. typically it's easiest to put a `print 
"Content-type: text/plain^/"` at the top of the script, then you'll 
most likely see the rebol error message

REBOL does not currently run _on_ any phones (that I know of) though 
this blog post offers some hope:
    http://www.rebol.com/cgi-bin/blog.r?view=0274


If you want to connect _to_ a phone from a REBOL-supported platform 
(Win, Lin, MAC, etc) then, as Henrik says, the crucial issue is the 
API to access the phone's functions. REBOL can probable connect to 
that API. But without more details, we'd be guessing.

Or, instead of parse, do -- select decode-cgi find/tail string "?" 
to-set-word 'area

http://www.rebol.net/cgi-bin/rambo.r?id=3813&

Paul, in the Parse blog comments section:
http://www.rebol.net/cgi-bin/r3blog.r?view=0155#comments

you wrote: "I would like to see Parse be able to return true on Datatype! 
value."

I posted examples to show why a84 is more rebolish. http://www.rebol.net/cgi-bin/r3blog.r?view=0255#comments

In the rewrite of DECODE-CGI, that behavior of ANY forces me to write:

parse "" [any [end break | copy tmp to end]]


This seems wrong to me if we define ANY as a MATCHing function, not 
as a LOOP function. This topic has been debated a bit between a few 
of us, but I think it deserves more attention.

Ashley, have a look at this : http://www.rebol.net/cgi-bin/rambo.r?id=3801&

Seems RT have now fixed this bug.  Hopefully a new SDK will come 
out with the fix as well.

demo is at http://polly.rebol.it/cgi-bin/../test/test/rebgui/, http://polly.rebol.it/test/test/rebgui/download.r
. the building is in http://polly.rebol.it/test/test/rebgui/build-archive.r

a thought: how about adding to vars instead of setting them? i imagine

 bt: context[rebgui: none cgi: none fill: [true] action: [alert value] 
 my-stuff: ..]
 display .. [
  bt: button
 ]
and now display would put its face in bt/rebgui

My idea is to decouple it with one indirection. I have one GUI-action 
block, that collects all data from the GUI objects, creates a block/object 
and passes this further for processing. The CGI part, would collect 
all data from the CGI object and passes this further for processing. 
To the same function as the GUI.

http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/view-script.r?script=layout.r

One version is in http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/view-script.r?script=install-edit-tools.r

What does this function do?


http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/view-script.r?script=render-rich-text.r

There is a bug report on Rambo for reverse on list!
http://www.rebol.net/cgi-bin/rambo.r?id=4420&