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I was looking at Amazon's glacier ( ultracheap S3 storage ) but that 
requires SHA256

Wasn't Amazon's glacier for archiving data you don't need everyday?

Hi guys, anyone have a library in Rebol to get Amazon Records passing 
a keyword and sorted by daterank?

Amazon SWF holds the connection open for 60 seconds to allow events 
to appear.  This times out my http(s) connections though.  I tried 
setting system/schemes/timeout to 60 but that doesn't work??

Amazon Linux AMI 2012.09

WOW, I didn't know of the existence of Amazon Linux. 

It has a very particular configuration for cloud and not for graphic, 
so you need Xvfb.

Kaj - i've been trying to run the ZeroMQ bindings on an Amazon Linux 
AMI (took a while to get Rebol View running!)

I have installed and built zeromq from the source, but the result 
is a 64bit build, so rebol complains:

wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64

would you happen to have a 32bit libzmq.so i can use?

Hi Kaj
Am actually trying on an aws instance (amazon linux 2012.09)
would you have the .so files?

Has anyone worked with the Amazon aws services?  I'm not sure how 
to "Calculate an RFC 2104-compliant HMAC with the SHA256 hash algorithm" 
as described in step 8 on page 62 here:  http://awsdocs.s3.amazonaws.com/Associates/latest/prod-adv-api-dg.pdf

any ideas why? i'm on a amazon linux instance...

We're hosting on Amazon S3 and several other places. I appreciate 
the Box.net offer, but it would just complicate our infrastructure 
further. A lot of our time over the years has gone to managing that, 
so I am firm on simplifying things

Is Nginx obsolete now that we have Amazon CloudFront?

http://www.peterbe.com/plog/is-nginx-obsolete-amazon-cloudfront

Amazon now insists that soap requests use https so back to using 
their REST protocol

@MarcS:  I'll try sha256 with Amazon AWS - very helpful, thank you!

I plan to keep running Opera on a regular bases.  I think there are 
more features than I'm seeing so far, but in a nutshell:


-	Separate Universe: Having a "another" browser is a good way of 
keeping things sepeate.  For example I might use Opera for my Qtask 
test accounts, and for checking up on some "grouping" of sites, since 
Opera is good at opening multiple tabs at start up (although it should 
stagger them since this is one of the speed hits).


-	Cache: It seems to auto pull a page it decides is the last version. 
 I'm not sure how it decides this yet.  But if I figure it out, this 
is a cool feature.


-	Magic wand: Great feature.  It should have its OWN password.  In 
other words.  Andy, Billy, and Carry, all use the same computer. 
 There are a lot of families that do this. IT would be nice to group 
your log ins to the same sites (AB and C all have separate Yahoo 
account, and separate Amazon accounts).  So they can basically Log 
in first with Opera, then go to town.  Even better would be an online 
service for this.  Can't wait for Identity 2.0.


-	Overview:  Opera has this cool feature of showing you a 3x3 grid 
of thumbnails of you fav sites.  This is cool.  So cool I want to 
see if there is a plug in for FF for this too.-

Maybe we can shift to using Amazon's SDB .. they allow you to store 
millions of records for no charge

Couldn't most of what we do here fall under Chat? I see it as a cross 
between a Wanted group and Amazon's Mechanical Turk. :-)

I'm more interested in debugging bad requests ... where Amazon explains 
the reasons for the bad request in the body returned.

I don't need redirects since I'm downloading from Amazon S3 ...

Amazon have all those instructional movies

Just use Amazon's micro payments system

Other considerations include that systems such as Amazon EC2 run 
on Linux, not our own kernel

This release focuses on making the system usable for running a number 
of standard servers, and several innovative REBOL servers.


The development files of the system, program headers, static libraries 
and development documentation, were moved to a separate area in /system/development/ 
and are now shipped in a separate package. If you want to compile 
software on Syllable Server, you need to install and register this 
package. The development files need to match the system: you can't 
use a package of any other Syllable version. (You will also need 
to install the Developer's Delight package collection and possibly 
other packages.)


User directories were moved from /home/ to /users/. Resource packages 
are in the process of moving from /usr/ to /resources/. /resources/ 
is currently a symbolic link to /usr/ so that resource packages will 
work from both places during the migration.


Many fixes were made, including more fixes for the CUPS print server 
and GhostScript. Creation of extra user accounts is possible now.


Many packages were updated, including the Linux kernel, IPTables, 
the GCC libraries, OpenSSH, SDL and QEmu. DirectFB was not upgraded 
due to incompatibility with Links2.


CDRTools were included for burning CDs, and the NetCat networking 
tool and the Transmission BitTorrent client were added.


In addition to the Syllable-specific early initialisation scripts 
(in the early-init subdirectory of packages), the late initialisation 
scripts (in the init subdirectory of packages) are now also executed. 
Several more initialisation scripts from Linux From Scratch were 
also added. Some servers can be started with the LFS scripts, others 
with the Syllable scripts (this will be unified in later releases).


The OpenSSH server was configured and now runs by default. At the 
first system start, security keys are generated that identify the 
server.


A collection of well-known root certificates from Certification Authorities 
was added to allow OpenSSL-based programs (such as OpenSSH) to establish 
the identity of destination points for network connections.


A MIME-types database was added in /etc/mime.types that is used by 
many programs, such as web servers, to identify the MIME types of 
files based on their file name extensions.

Several REBOL software stacks were added:

- The REBOL/Services Service Oriented Architecture.

- The UniServe network server framework.
- The Cheyenne Apache-class web server.
- A CAPTCHA library.
- A MySQL network protocol.

- The QuarterMaster web programming framework, based on a Model-View-Controller 
architecture. By default, it's configured to run on Cheyenne.


- The TINY library for parsing text, abstracting data access and 
building templates of generic text formats (including HTML). This 
library is an original creation and targets both ORCA and REBOL.


Configurations, including initialisation scripts, were added for 
the OpenSSH remote access server, the CUPS print server, the BIND 
domain name server, the Apache web server, the RSync file synchronisation 
server, the SaMBa Windows-compatible file server, the INetUtils FTP 
server and the VSFTP FTP server. Several of these are not included 
in the system, but need to be installed separately (the system is 
prepared for them). The sshd, cupsd and initd servers are started 
by default.


S3Cmd/S3Sync was included, a tool for accessing the Amazon Simple 
Storage Service (S3) and synchronising files with it.


As a demo, the Genode operating system framework, its Nitpicker windowing 
server (built on SDL) and its demonstration programs were included.

In contrast, Ruby, which is only there for an Amazon S3 script, and 
which is one of the smallest popular languages, takes 11 MB

Alternatively, you could run your server tasks on Amazon EC2, which 
is also Xen

Regarding EC2: yes, you have to do persistent storage outside of 
EC2. The logical choice for that is Amazon S3. You can install an 
S3 driver for the FUSE filesystem on Linux and use it transparently, 
if you keep the performance characteristics in mind

The only thing that's required is Amazon's Linux kernel: you can 
define all the rest of the Linux system yourself. You could boot 
the very minimum off the EC2 image to mount S3 as a filesystem and 
then continue booting the base system from S3, but it would make 
no sense. Once the image is loaded by EC2 it has much higher performance 
than accessing S3 over the network

Thanks Graham, the 32-bit libraries were not loaded.  This sent me 
on a 24-hour excursion into Ubuntu Linux land where I discovered 
all kinds of things about loading 32-bit libraries into a 64-bit 
operating system that I never thought I needed to know.  After much 
exploration, several trips up and down the Ubuntu Linux technical 
Amazon, I eventually found in a dark, murky backwater the exact technical 
information I needed to complete my journey:


https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ia32-libs/+bug/431091?comments=all

On successful completion of the obligatory wget command

cd /tmp

wget http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/i/ia32-libs/ia32-libs_2.7ubuntu6.1_amd64.deb
dpkg-deb -x ia32-libs_2.7ubuntu6.1_amd64.deb ia32-libs
sudo cp ia32-libs/usr/lib32/libstdc++.so.5.0.7 /usr/lib32/
cd /usr/lib32
sudo ln -s libstdc++.so.5.0.7 libstdc++.so.5


And the other commands above, I was delighted to find that rebcmdview 
now works on Ubuntu 10.04 on my laptop.  So, once again, thank you 
Graham for pointing me in the right direction.  I would never have 
figured this out for myself without the 32-bit library information. 
Much appreciated.

The ISP owns the mysql db .. and opens up some tables for you to 
use.  So, no, it's not possible unless you run your own Vm like as 
on Amazon or linode or slicehost or whatever.

I've noticed some websites like Amazon don't seem to have a log out 
/ sign out button any more. What's happening ? How are they doing 
the logout ?

I note with interest the efforts to translate the latest REBOL book 
 from French to English to be published via LuLu. Do you realize 
that LuLu are unable/unwilling to deliver to international P.O. Box 
addresses !!?!! -- they gave me some Bull Dust story about how The 
Australian Postal Service wont deliver to a P.O Box !!  Strange how 
AMAZON seems happy to deliver to a P.O. Box. and have done so for 
many years.  So getting the book might prove difficult for some people.

And one more: I'm using a 2TB NAS system (Thecus) to store shared 
things. Works great (things to add: automatic backup to Amazon S3 
(now you know why I want it)). Than I have two PCs (1 Desktop and 
1 Laptop) and 1 Mac Mini (Intel)


The Mac Mini is a totaly cool machine. Silent, fast, and it just 
works.


Hence, my next desktop will become a Mac Pro. Hopefully VMWare works 
than.

About Amazon andSOA: http://www.acmqueue.com/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=388

Interesting and balanced opinions (SOAP complexity) - http://www.regdeveloper.co.uk/2006/04/29/oreilly_amazon/

Amazon is hiring ... first round interviews are taking place on 2nd 
Life http://aws.typepad.com/aws/2009/07/amazon-second-life-job-fair.html

Submitted my Amazon competition entry ... maybe I can win another 
$25 of credits again though I haven't used up the last $25 i got 
from them 2 years ago!

Using up to 1,000 high CPU large Amazon instances for space exploration 
http://aws.typepad.com/aws/2009/06/scaling-to-the-stars.html

Free Kindles http://techcrunch.com/2010/02/12/amazon-wants-to-give-a-free-kindle-to-all-amazon-prime-subscribers/

Amazon AWS is now officially available in Singapore (serving the 
APAC regions). http://aws.typepad.com/aws/2010/04/now-open-aws-region-in-asia-pacific.html

http://stacksmashing.net/2010/11/15/cracking-in-the-cloud-amazons-new-ec2-gpu-instances/


Using amazon's GPU cloud machines to break SHA1 passwords in 49 minutes 
at the price of about 2.10$ an hour.

Looks like Amazon EC2 have had an outage lasting 30 hours + :(

Amazon are blaming some network issue .. EC2 didn't actually go down, 
but the EBS did.  There was some type of cascading failure possibly 
as some type of replication went out of control and used up all available 
storage.

Anyway the post mortem will be interesting .. and hopefully Amazon 
will have a more durable product as a result.

Last year at the startup weekend in Singapore I was showing Rebol 
to a couple of Amazon guys. They were amazed... I was proposing I 
would create a Rebol commandline tool set for them if they could 
get some donation, but nothing really happened... yet :)

Yes, I have been thinking the same. Amazon is very good at keeping 
their web services simple, but over time, complexity adds up anyway

Are there even Amazon protocols for R3?

For larger files I use S3copy ( http://download.cnet.com/S3copy-Amazon-S3-Command-Line-Copy/3000-2242_4-10915715.html
) as it does not block my application if I get something else to 
do the uploads

Amazon's talk of region isolation was clearly not true.

Amazon announces crazy Kindle prices and their $199 tablet

it bugs me that they forked Android (based on a version prior to 
2.2) - that's a second strike. The first was that they bought Touchco, 
a very promising tech company which had one of the best and cheapest 
touchscreen implementations ($10/sq ft), good for both stylus and 
fingers. This should have been technology for the masses, not restricted 
to Amazon. Oh well, I guess it's still for the masses if they sell 
enough tablets with that tech, at some point. Forking Android though, 
screw them. With their user base, they have the potential to upset 
the Android cart.

Amazon is cool but they seem to have the MS mentality of ignoring 
standards... "embrace and extend" i guess...

The problem with Amazon is it's "Amazon store developer agreement" 
- http://www.readwriteweb.com/mobile/2011/04/igda-updates-warning-to-amazon-appstore-developers-its-not-a-misunderstanding.php

Brian. Mashups (as I'm referring to) is the common term for webapps 
that utilise numerous webservices and combined in the browsers. But 
I hope you can come up with a security method that allows us to utilise 
advertising, google adwords-api, flickr, amazon-api, numerous maps, 
calendars. etc ; without having to combine on a single server before 
it goes out to the clients rebol plugin. I can do all this now in 
a browser, but I won't be able to with a rebol-plugin?

I am thinking of an S3 scenario where I want to "pipe" a huge file 
upload to Amazon S3 (as example)

One thing I was considering.. rather than paying for expensive servers, 
like amazon EC2,  to host low usage sites, you could run mulitple 
copies of Cheyenne that would sync up.. and maybe an S3 bucket for 
data.. one at home, one at work etc. .. couple these with dynamicDNS 
so in the event one went down, the other(s) could detect that, and 
update the DNS to take over.  Could do some DNS based load balancing 
if necessary.  If you want to get real crazy.. you could share backup 
servers amongst agreeable Cheyenne users...probably wouldn't host 
e-commerce that way, but wikis / publicly available data would be 
fine.

My Amazon public key as encrypted 'n stored by Framewerks
1>���l�TBa�^bOy��Ǩ�%�����6��
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Let me know if you can crack it, then  I'll give you my private key 
:p

Im not that familiar with it.. just looked interesting. 
Amazon uses Erlang for their S3 and SimpleDB products
Apaceh uses it for their CouchDB product.

I'd probably use Amazon for email.

... CSS, database access, acting as a proxy to servers, JQuery, Google 
map integration, Amazon S3, OpenID, AtomAPI and other RSS integration, 
Delicious... man, i HATE that stuff.

Linode is similar .. Amazon is more expensive ...

I use Amazon EC2 and it's reliable to a point .. if it goes down 
I just start another instance ... and in 6 months, I've only had 
to do that once.

This actually looks pretty good. I was leaning toward Amazon... but...

Amazon is Small Instance (Default) 1.7 GB of memory, 1 EC2 Compute 
Unit (1 virtual core with 1 EC2 Compute Unit), 160 GB of local instance 
storage, 32-bit platform
If you commit to a 3 year term it is only $300 per year

Amazon charge only for uptime .. at 8c an hour.

Amazon allows you free db storage in multiple redundant locations

amazon is doing this with
GET obj
GET obj?versions
GET obj?versionID=xxx

even my amazon micro instance is idle mostly...

Brian, I would like to see prot-http.r extended ... since googledoc, 
and amazon are big topics for some of us

If you need temporary access to windows 2008, windows 2003 servers, 
you can start them up in Amazon EC2

I setup a Windows 2008 server on Amazon.  Setup Firebird 64 bit and 
a DSN.  Then tried to connect using ODBC.  Failed.

Can you create an account for me on your amazon sys?

and you can play amazon. when x is picked, offer y too.

speaking about games...

this guys (I think its a Singapore based company)

http://www.viwawa.com/


they run their games (Mahjong, Big2 etc) off Amazon's infrastructure 
to help handle the load.

I cannot improve that, it's from Fastsprings' Amazon cloud. Maybe 
they should be renamed to Slowspring:) Maybe it's on your way slowed 
down.

Just thinking that if you need to create signed headers eg. for Amazon 
requests, then these functions should be readily accessible rather 
than tucked inside a scheme somewhere

SHA256 ...need this for Amazon signing ...

I'm wondering how to interface with Amazon's simple DB.

Managed my first request to the Amazon SDB using the http scheme 
and SOAP

A couple of prototype functions for Amazon SDB
http://rebol.wik.is/Rebol3/AWS

They are using Webdav and also RESTful APIs similar to those from 
Amazon S3

Got it working with S3 .. there's a bug in the Amazon Soap service 
for S3 which I uncovered !

Henrik, get yourself an Amazon S3 account.  15c per Gb of storage 
and traffic

Amazon

I managed to bring up my wiki again .. and the SOAP stuff is here 
http://www.compkarori.co.nz:8000/Rebol3/AWS but Amazon is going to 
require https so not sure how that is going to work.

There's a big difference in price between the various CPU configurations 
on amazon

Yes, it's Amazon S3. You need to use the official URLs: syllable.org 
or web.syllable.org/pages/index.html